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its ok to b gay
The perfect size for the perfect otter
hello give requests
for a brief momenti was completely without directionwithout purposelostwith no thread i was completely directionlessat the mercy of my own mind
You were this close away to getting a 'do your fucking job' edition.
This is your fault
>>9936877Nick in FMAB.
>>9936877Animals much tinier than they actually should be.
>>9936877Make something that'll inspire people to stop procrastinating.
>>9936877>story about heroin>requestsA horse strung out on horse, perhaps?
>tfw used to fap to all kinds of degenerate shit>after WildeHopps can only fap to porn with feelings between a loving coupleSluts just don't do it for me anymore. Which makes slutty whoring rabbits trope all the more cringy to me.
>>9936918You make me angry.
>>9936990Why such a strong reaction?
>>9936910Hooves aren't conducive to needles
where are my Judy's Landlord x Elephant from the Naturalist Club fics?
i want to cum in Ewe
>>9936918same...I was pretty much into some fucked up shit before zootopia... now I need heartfelt stuff.
>>9936918>used to fap solely to rape and whatnot>can't do it anymore due to these threads
>>9937119First time I watched I didn't catch Stu opening his arms wide and then sulking before Judy came back.
>>9937170please delete
>>9936874But it's also gay to be okay.
>>9936874defective
Ewe is the best
>>9937170>the real reason he doesn't like Wildehopps is because Judy's flat
>>9937188you will desist
>>9937170>>9937194But Gazelle in the movie is also flat. What the fuck is this shit?
I miss these two
>>9937228Straightfags are very insecure and need to throw gigantic balloon tits on all the objects of their affection to ensure there's no ambiguity about their huge straightness.I'm only partially joking.
>>9937048Yes, well, you know, that's what nurses are for. We all have to make do with what we have.
i finally made refs for pizzapalsadded them to smol hustlers chat aswell
>>9937258Gazelle is so thick and feminine I was honestly a little nervous in the theater because jesus christ, those hips and the way she moved them.
>>9937258lies, i am straight and i like smol tiddies
>>9937258Well, I'm a straightfag, and I like all kind of titties, except those fucking melons. That is just unappealing.
>>9937274>Stan can't make that pose>That expressionGODDAMMIT ZHAN DON'T MAKE ME FEEL THESE FEELS
>>9936918I am reminded of a fic that kind of played to the "slutty rabbits" trope but also subverted it at the same time. Judy had been put on shitty blind date one after another, and hated how all the bucks, after a single date, wanted to get into her pants. By the second chapter, Judy realized that she wanted Nick, and started making moves on him, almost throwing herself at him with increasing obvious interest. From saying "she is good in every room" when Nick complimented her skill in the kitchen, to saying that she would "do anything for him" (jokingly of course) when he did their report when it was her turn, to saying she might need someone "to help her out of her dress".
>>9937274Does Stan not have a tail?
>>9936899I feel like a massive weaboo>>9936907Already done
>>9936875I want Nick to hotglue Kris.
>>9937258I've never liked balloon tits, and always thought the breasts should fit a woman's figure. Giant boobs on a petite woman look weird when they are almost wider than her shoulders.
>>9937170this man has mental problems
>>9937274Emily!
>>9937310>>9937349>>9937438Y'all are probably more secure in your sexuality than a lot of people, then.
>>9937300>poorlittlegazzellgirl.jpg
>>9937274There's way to ask this question that doesn't sound suspicious, but: how old are Rosie and Melody?
>>9937273Nurse, inject me with this heroin, stat!
>>9937525Rosie is 13-14 and Mel is 16 I think
>>9937274>Neighthankek
>>9937525Young enough that you should feel ashamed for what you're thinking.
>>9937446It's a joke m8. Boobs are great
>>9937370woopswill fix that, pretend you can't see it>>9937525Rosie is around 14-15, Melody is 17-18, I bumped the ages up a little bit
>>9937616I'd bump them too
>>9937258>only partially joking.and fully retarded it seems
>>9937611It isn't though. There is no setup or punchline. It is not irony or sarcasm. it's just Gazelle suddenly has gigantic boobs for no reason, makes Nick uncomfortable and Judy irritated. There is no joke. It's just pointless shit.
>>9937611he is a fucking 55 year old man, with nothign better to do than making boob jokes with CHILDREN MOVIE characters that DON'T have boobs...I really wish someone would beat some sense into him
>>9937674>There is no joke. It's just pointless shit.>what is ztg
Good night /ztg/
>>9936901
>>9937704good night bunner
oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.i can't wait for zootopia to b popular!just imagine: shorts, comics, books, toys, plushies, merchandise!
>>9937602whoops
>>9937708kek
>>9937742Well he's half right, Gideon is definitely a queer
>>9937616>Rosie is around 14-15, Melody is 17-18, I bumped the ages up a little bit15.. might almost be okay, maybe.>>9937602Look, you don't know what I'm thinking, and I bet your assumption is wrong anyway. The fact that shame is involved is entirely secondary to that.It's not technically lewd!
>>9937687I have been only here for a few months but... /zgt/ is anything but poitless to me. The feedback I get on my art here really helps me.Discussing my dislikes about other "artists" work, and see that I'm not alone with seeing those problems gives me comfortAnd there is always some art worth sharing.
>>9937793Is it pedo if I'm into vore, but want to be eaten by kids
>>9937817not if you don't make it sexual
>>9937602Not him but I was writing them as both around 11~13, always figured it'd be easier to write abloo with those ages. Finding out Rosie was 15~ and Melody 18~ really made me think of either rewriting the whole thing or use other characters, but they'd still be a mouse and a fox so it'd be pretty much "Rosie and Melody"-lite.
>>9937869Someone using their actual name as their screen name is a pretty reliable indicator that they're fucked in the head in some way.
>>9937869What are you doing?
>>9937884Or you could just write the story of Rosie and Melody when they were younger.
>>9937733you're going away for long time buddy
>>9937170>>9937228well, this explains it then, Borba's a silicon titman
>>9937897Stan dies.
>>9937942An AU, then.
>>9937958Or maybe he's been dead the whole time. Stan's a guardian hobo-angel!>>9937843Not him, but define 'sexual'. Is it sexual if the story is not sexual but written with the intent that somebody is probably going to get off on it?
disney put out a limited edition 400 Judy pin for $16 (with free ice cream too)of course its being resold for $150+ alreadyfuckk
>>9937958Yeah, that's how it is going right now. Though it goes back to if using Melody and Rosie when it's all so different still a good idea.Worse comes to worst, I can ctrl+f replace the names and make it an Alopex and a Jerboa.
>doxxingThis is where I get off the ride.Have fun with your /fn@f/-tier hugbox.
>>9937170Brazilian like big tits.News at 11.
>>9937170her body shape reminds me of the females from One Piece
Discord CC room is making fun of us again.
>>9937869I'm not sure you had to do that
>>9938026
>>9938002>pins>FUCKING pinsthat's so generous of you, Gisnep
Discord CC room is making fun of us again
uhmmm please stop bullying the king of feels
>>9938011>thinking this is just random shitposting due to >>9937938>check phone>It's Abortba garbage.Have some self-respect /ztg/.Hope trashy/rose doesn't quote anyone so I don't miss anything good.
>>9938056Like he could even begin to fucking hopeHis discussions ended in apathy
only month away.
A box will be placed for the Fox. What is in the box /ztg/?
>>9938057is
>>9936877Duke soaking wet from a rainstorm
>>9938099Judy is in the box
>>9938099999 Judys
>>9938095here's a list of zootopia related things that will show up:- a part in a sizzle reelit'll be a travesty, sadly
Byron is making fun of us again.
>>>9938085no he made several people think of the implication of abortions and how everlasting love can end if people disagree, many feels were had.you cant feel anything because youre a cynical wildehopps
>>993809972 virgin Judys
>>9938099violet dismembered head hopefully
>>9938000Well when I said sexual, I meant not having the kids do anything sexual. And If he's just getting off to the vore aspect of it and not specifically how old they are then I wouldn't say it's pedo then.
>>9938056Who?
>>9938099CucumbersAlso damn, I love how you've drawn that eye
>>9938144I agree with the second part
>>9938177I feel like 'don't include kids in your fetishes, period' is a reasonable rule of thumb to apply here.
>>9938186Borba!
>>9938219
>>9938099Nick's incredibly tiny wife, Kris, barely visible to the naked eye.
>>9938219Oh, he made that overly dramatic comedy.
>>9938210>don't include kids in your fetishes, periodOops
>>9938056Can I bully you instead?
>>9938223
>>9938249No!
>>9938332Was Judy ever drawn in this comic?
>>9938210Well to give the benefit of the doubt, it could just be that the guy might be into the power struggle or just the characters' personalities.Though that is a good rule in general.
>>9938332I know everything is traced but THAT FINNICK IS FUCKING HARDCORE TRACED
>>9938144Nope, he made nobody think.Starting discussion and starting a flamewar is two different things.If a story doesn't change the point of view of anyone, than it has no purpose.He represented two very sides with very horrible examples. Those who stood in the middle stayed in the middle. Those who were biaset with on side, stuck with that side, because the opposing side made no valid/likeable points.I would've been okay with a brakeup comic, if the brake up is represented well. He is a horrible writer. No wonder none of his non-zootopia work is famous. Must be depressign for a 55 year old artists to discover that nobody will remember any of his work, but his fanarts. And now not even that, because he demosntrated how little the meaning of "fan-work" means to him.
>>9938355wow rude dudeis this all you do all day?
>>9938339
>>9938355>If a story doesn't change the point of view of anyone, than it has no purpose.whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Steaming hot take, fresh off the presses:borba is bad
>>9938386nope, but sometimes I must get my disgust for his attitude out of my system. He disrespects and berates everyone who dares to say a bad word about his "writing". He makes me puke.
>>9938003if it helps, you can take the lower end of ages, it's deliberately vague in everything elsetheir mental ages probably aren't too far off the mark either
>>9938282Not even sexually?
>>9938347I mean I don't think I'm going to do it, because ultimately "no kids in fetishy material" is a good policy, so I'll just throw the idea out to make it stop bouncing around in my head: It was going to be an abloo abloo greentext, Rosie insists on splitting food evenly with Melody because she's kind even though that's dumb cause smol, Rosie is hungry and Melody is super guilty, Mel waits until Rosie's asleep and crawls into her mouth, makes her swallow or crawls down her throat or something so Rosie will have more to eat blah blahAnd then in the morning Rosie coughs a soggy mouse back up and gets huffy at Mel because this happens like every fucking week, "it's starting to get weird Melody!", etc.
>>9938412Every story has a purpose, a goal it tries to accomplish, a life lesson>Family is most important in life>You can always count on your friends>What you think you want is not what you need>Suicide is not the answer to solve painanything.Borba's comic has no lesson that can "help" anyone, That "everlasting love may come to an end" is empty bullshit.
>>9938521That could make for an alright oneshot but like you've pointed out there's no way to separate it from the fetish-y aspect of it.
>>9938535ah that's a better explanation.
>>9938535All four of those examples are wrong, though
>>9938521You should write this
>>9938565oh, ok, then I act according to the 4th
>>9937170So Seinfeld has made it to Brazil?Welcome to the last century.
>>9938590banned on discord
>>9938354>>9938332Why do autists think they can trace things and get away with it? I can understand using someone else's work for reference but that excuse doesn't fly when it's so blatant.
These drawings keep falling from my hands
>>9938643Even in smol version
>>9937170
>>9938636Choose a zoosona of someone here.Draw them doing interpretative dance
>>9938641Does it matter, 90% of the content of these comics were taken from someone else.
>>9938636Nick and Judy Mecha-shiva
>>9938636Honey as an Alex Jones style show host
>>9938686This is humor! Thank you, now I can go to sleep with a smile!
>>9937708Tiny strong buffalo
>>9937118I demand moar!
>>9938589I think Rosie's too young for me to write that, but if somebody else wants to pick that idea up then I can't stop them. I'm going to go back and think about the Dora and Remmy thing somebody suggested last night(?) instead.
So, what's your feelings on punk rock Gazelle?
>>9938099Another smaller fox (with or without his own box)
>>9938686
>>9938800Touche.
>>9938641I think it usually has to do with the artist too scared to do it themselves. Or even try and make their own art work.I am amazed that this comic has been going on as long as it has though. Damn near every single frame is either traced or has some kind of other picture used for background material.Makes me wonder if the people just don't care about it enough to call this "artist" out on it or what.
>>9938773>>9938003>Hustlers too young to do porn with>Hustlers too old to be interesting enough to write foran optimal age for these two needs to be found
>>9938781My feelings towards that concept are positive.
>>9938800>Nick and Judy don't take to kindly when TV company's try and use their likeness for popularity and views.
>>9938877Somebody write a Reboot crossover and have them age up like 10 years in game cubes, or whatever that plot device was.Actually, somebody just write a Zootopia/Reboot crossover.
>>9938781So what's the lore of it? Is it an AU where she was a punk rocker instead of a pop idol? Or she started out as a rocker during her rebellious phase and switched over to pop when she found herself?
>>9938643>>9938649
>>9937274When are the Pizzapals finally gonna hook up, zhan?!They don't even have to fuck*, I just want them to realize that they were made for each other.*yet
>>9938987
>>9939000
>>9937170Despite the fact that it goes against her actual design, and it's an ancient fucking joke, I'll actually give this a pass.Because it's borba not being a complete fucking retard about religion and 'bortions.
>>9938987when WildeHopps is canon, obviously
>>9939011>>9939000Pizza "Mr. fEd Her The Dick" Colt
>>9937733>Things a poor vixen's gotta do to get a hot meal and some cash...
>>9938694
>>9939000"convinient sex box inc" is my favorite company
>>9938095Only a month until we find out if KH3 is delayed till 2020, so Zootopia and Wreck-It Ralph worlds are added to the game.
>>9938636Bogo has to supervise Nick after "The Incident."
>>9938722No, not Alex Jones.Couldn't you at least pick a conspiracy theorist who isn't a fucking douchebag?
>>9938877It's not that it wouldn't be interesting to write for 15-19 adolescents, is because with 12 it makes it easier for the story to be "young children in a fucked up setting" rather than "dumbasses learning the ropes".
>>9938636Could we get Friedkin losing her bathing suit at the beach?
>>9938636Who is this?
>>9939000>>9939011Was hoping to sway the Z-Man himself, but seeing these again are nice, thank you.
>>9939027Remember that WildeHopps is a non-heteronormative pansexual relationship and trying to say it isn't is an attack on all non-straight, non-cis people and relationships regardless if that actually makes fucking sense or not.
>>9939072Her NAME is Sony.
>>9939230I'm a Nazi
>>9938187Winrar /and thanks aaaa/What's in the new box
Reason #983 that RemDora is a better ship than sheepdog: This kitty's got curves.
>>9939230Goddamn I fucking hate NW, her insufferable self-aggrandizing and SJW bullshit.
>>9939297A picture of Lord Jesus Byron
>>9939297It's his old scout uniform, as pristine as it was when he threw it out all those years ago.
>>9939070you're getting a little creepy now, blank
>>9939297Your self respect.
>>9939297a copy of Hook
>>9939297a condom
>>9939297
>>9939297Lube
>>9939297Just a bunch of pies from Gideon. Nick can take them to work and say that he cooked them.
>>9939297a box of cuck
>>9939297The entire Bee Movie
>>9939366
>>9939230I really wasn't on the threads when this page came out for Zistopia, so I don't know what the actual discussion was, but I don't see anything wrong with this.I think it's okay to portray interspecie relationships regarded as the same deviant sexual orientation as homosexuality.I know the artisrt is a bit pushy about the message, but this doesn't make this page or the interaction bad itself.I say that and I hate borba's work. This compared to that is really heartfelt. Some (or many) homosexuals really do feel the same way Gwen here does. It's hard and painful, when you love someone and the world detests you, saying it's "unnatural" so you looking for a way to make people understand that just because the person you feel something for is not what they expected, does not make your feelings any less "pure". I honestly don't see anything wrong with the message this page is trying to give
>>9939297A copy of Shark Tale.
>>9939297The issue of Playboy, or whatever it's called in-universe, that had his mom on the front cover.
PUT THE BUNNY BACK IN THE BOX!
>>9939427
>>9939429Because this page came out of nowhere. There was no lead up, no build up, not even a hint of what the fuck this page is about. As a result the page becomes Gwen trying to get Nick to admit to something while he's hurting, and when he refuses, she makes everything about her and her sexuality despite the fact that the real problem is that Nick feels like he's been betrayed because he's a fucking fugitive and can't show his face in public anymore.
>>9939297Some brine and jars
>>9939297A collection of sexy pictures of his mom
>>9938002It's not even that good. >>9938047> Another era of Cars merchYeesh>>9938095"Zootopia? What's that?" - Disney
Hello!So someone told me you all like gay country boys in monogamous relationships based on mutual love, respect and trust? And also that you just LOVE baby OCs in your talking animal fanfiction?No?>the rest http://imgur.com/a/RTBm0
>>9939536Travis being intelligent is one of my favorite tropes desu
>>9939297her pretty head
>>99394821, there was build up to it, I remember several implications to Gwen's sexuality prior this page2, All she knows, that Nick worked with a Bunny, that he later invited to the amusement park (if I recall, she learned about that) So she assumes (rightfully) that Nick has feelings for Judy.3, Gwen does not know about "Judy's assumed betrayal" and since Nick is not telling it to her, how is she suppose to know? Without Nick giving an explaination to his bitterness, all Gwen can assume that Nick is mad because he hates himself for loving the bunny (which is how some homosexuals start out as before,)4, Nick did make the situation worse by stating that his affection to Judy would make him a "freak", and she is right to assume that he would think the something similar of her.
>>9939536>panel 1>LoD settings: high>panel 2>LoD settings: low>panel 3>LoD settings: high
>>9939536>smart travis>gid/travis relationship that's not obnoxiousI never knew how much I needed this until now. Don't fuck it up with hybrid abominations.
>>9939536Absolute madman. Also Bonnie karmic justice, just needs to be a gray/red fox hybrid and it's going to be hilarious.
>>9939458
>>9939619>several implicationsWe knew she was a lesbian. It was shown. Explicitly. She brought her girlfriend to the park. None of that excuses her immediately going off the fucking deep end and making everything about HER and her SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE SEXUALITY when Nick is just a little bit reticent to speak.
>>9939683>hybrid abominationsUnless he's also going to make male pregnancy a thing I'm pretty sure they adopted, Anon.
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>>9939429the page struck me badly because gwen, whos been living a pretty good life all things considered, berates nick after he goes through literal hell and soul crushing supposed betrayal because he supposedly reacted badly after she revealed she was a lesbian. before someone retcons it, flashback show that he was fucking cool with it and she with him.so she held a grudge about that since forever to throw at his face when hes already on his knees, shouted that the FUCKING PRISON didnt make him better (reminder this is zistopia, so even worse), a fucking prison he went because of an ACCIDENT that costed someones life and even nick ended a bit messed for it. he never went there for being unacceptive (because he sure as hell wasnt show homophobic ever)the fact she acts like she knows how the relationship is going between them and that she has the last word before plot covenient collar acts up makes it obvious she was never going to ever be told that was a horrible thing to do, she basically became the author mouthpieceand the author is an asshole. so she ruined the character to soapbox. and everyone was going to just let it go.
>>9939746brb time to neck myself, the memes got to me
>>9939766If Mead introduced mpreg, that's probably the one source I could see it just being done to fuck with people instead of being fetish fuel-in-denial
>>9939683No, mead made it clear that interspecie breeding is not a thing here.I don't think gid/travis is implied here I mean... it's a fox baby based on the color, and travis just got back from zootopia, I'm not sure they would imidietly adopt a kid, just as they reunited...I think gid is with someone else, a vixen?...Or this is just a huge plothole, and they really are a gay couple adopting a fox to make Bonnie go "I see now, it an work out! Oh, how dumb I was, I need to tell Judy I was wrong."
>>9939312where?
>>9939791>I think gid is with someone else, a vixen?...Oh no, he had a baby with a fucking wolf in this hybridless universe.
>>9939720equestria
>>9939720>>9939821
>>9939791Maybe it's a plothole and they really adopted and it's been a while since Travis and Ms. Hopps met. Or maybe it's the kid of some Gideon sibling and they can't take care or something.Going "it's actually a baby of some girl he knocked up and she decided to let them raise together" always make my head spin with legal implications around it. I could even go with a surrogate and Gideon sperm.
>>9939730>>9939764Gwen saw herself and her gf in Nick and Judy at that moment. She only started making it about herself when Nick called those who are in such "unnatural" relationships "freaks". You WOULD make it about yourself too, trust me.I just think both of you completly misinterpreted this page,,,
>>9939846VELCOMTOOOTRODQ
>>9939429There's nothing against the artist; it's the writer. This was a guest page for a tumblr comic.Nick and the white fox used to date, he came out, and they were fine; a flashback even showed her and her new partner at the opening of Nick's theme park.Over the course of the comic, Nick starts to imprint on Judy, and falls in love with her, which is unusual due to the species difference.But Judy leaves him at the abandoned park without his collar (essentially trapping him; preds can't ever take their collars off) and accidentally holding her collar key.Judy gets fired for losing her key, and an APB is put out for a 'dangerous pred with a collar key', so when Nick finds out, he thinks Judy betrayed him and is heartbroken; he then goes on an emotional bender where he just starts freeing as many preds as he can.When he makes it to his friends' hideout, Finnick has told them that Nick is in love with a rabbit. Gwen, being gay, starts to rib him, but heartbroken Nick denies it.Eventually, he says he's not a freak that's attracted to a rabbit, which triggers Gwen into thinking that Nick thinks that all non-normative relationships and people are bad.She essentially took what Nick thought about HIMSELF, and made it all about her, and she starts screaming at him, saying that he's an asshole who essentially deserves to be raped in jail: "PRISON DIDN'T CHANGE YOU, YOU ARE STILL A JERK!!".Nick said nothing about her or anyone else, he just didn't want to admit that he was attracted to a bunny, but the author wanted to get on a soapbox.The fact that she, the author, continually tells people that WildeHopps is pansexual, and not "straight" is a point of contention. It'd be like saying Captain Kirk was pansexual for being attracted to the green Orion women from TOS.
>>9939869And I think you're bending over backward to defend a blatant degradation of quality.
>>9939619Gwen's sexuality was basically thrown in our face every time she appeared in the comic, except for the times where she was a child. In addition to it, Gwen could have taken Nick's bitterness anyway she wants, he still told all of them, who are suppose to be HIS FRIENDS, to drop the subject. Obviously something happened between him and the bunny, they just didn't know what. In that case, they should have left it alone or just ended it on the note of "Hey buddy, you can talk to us about anything, you know that?"Instead, in her own selfishness and bitterness, Gwen kept on pushing the subject again and again, getting into some seriously rude and intimate details when Nick already expressed he didn't want to talk about it, until Nick basically snapped, saying he is not a freak when he was still hurting from the betrayal. Gwen became a mouthpiece, plain and simple. She didn't act like a friend or someone who thought of Nick as "family".
>>9939898He's baiting and you're a retard for falling for someone who spams commas.
>>9939889I said I wasn't on the thread not that I don't know nicholasWildes (witty) and Zistopiathank you anway.still don't undestand the hate
>>9939940The last three sentences LITERALLY tell you what people got titled about it. I have no idea if you are just choosing to act ignorant of what bothers everyone or not. But come on.
>>9939940Zistopia gets hate because it's not a furry iphone commercial.
>>9939869>Gwen saw herself and her gf in Nick and Judy at that moment.Why? How? She hasn't even met Judy. And in any case, how is comparing her relationship to Nick's any more appropriate than having gay relationships compared to anti-gays?>She only started making it about herself when Nick called those who are in such "unnatural" relationships "freaks".Unless her girlfriend was another species (and IIRC, she isn't), then her relationship is not comparable aside from shallow surface generalities of "not same species male-female relationship".>You WOULD make it about yourself too, trust me.No, I wouldn't, and I would give those that would try to shit. Because instead of trying to help their friend, nay their fucking ex-boyfriend who is having a crisis, they decide to make it all about them and insult him.Gwen Skye is (one of) the worst Skye(s).
>>9939889>she must think that he deserves to be raped in jail>because she thinks that Nick thinks of her as a freak, so she gets emotionalA little bit exaggerating, don't you think? I undestand people wanting to side with heartbroen Nick, and I don't say he deserved her screaming at him. That doesn't make her the badguy in the situation, it's simple misunderstanding that led to an emotional outburst. You guys are nuts
>>9940000
>>9939898It's obvious that the art couldn't possibly be a 'degradation', and if I'm being honest, I don't think for a second that the writing for Zistopia was ever anything more than painfully average. For pretty much any original draft fic, the only reason people assume the writing is fine is because the majority of the writing was already fucking done for them. I cannot tell you how irritating it is to see people praise what is almost a carbon fucking copy of the original movie draft.Any person can get good at writing prose, but the actually tough part of writing isn't in the nuance of the written word. Zistopia was never smartly written.
>>9940000And of course, NW's fucking foot in mouth with this bullshit.Kudos on the quads, tho.
>>9940005homosexuatly and interspecies are both probably regarded as "unnatural" in this comic.That's why Gwen could sympatize with Nick's feelings for a bunny... is it really that hard to imagine?
>>9940054>Gwen could sympatize with Nick's feelings
>>9940054Makes sense to me. Actual human beings still catch shit for dating outside their skin pigment in some places, to say nothing of being gay, makes sense that actual interspecies relationships would be similar.But enough about that Zune commercial of a comic
>>9939679Looks to me like the sun is at Bonnie's backLike the sun is setting, maybe?
>>9940010I never brought up the phrase "bad guy", but she was being the selfish jerk in this situation.Saying that Nick was an asshole, despite the fact that he was put in jail in a system that fucking hates preds and is probably worse than RL prisons.Assuming things one is saying about themselves and making it all about her. And screaming in his face.She may not be a bad character, but that was easily an incredibly selfish, jackass thing to do.>>9940054>mixed religious and interracial couples are both probably regarded as "unnatural" in this comic.>>That's why Jewish Gwen could sympatize with Nick's feelings for a Catholic bunny... is it really that hard to imagine?Fucked up logic you have there, so I tried to make it more obvious what you're saying.
>>9939987I read the last 3 sentences and they are wrong.I won't understand wrong reasons.The Witty didn't meant to make it all about Gwen and homosexuality.This page was meant to draw a parallel between homosexuality and interspecies and those who practice in it are regarded as freaks and need to hide their true nature. Gwen is not just hurt for herself, she is hurt for Nick because she thinks that he is lying to himself about his feelings because he is so affraid to become a "freak".But really, I got to go to sleep now, sorry I have upset you with my autism
>>9939429>>9939482>>9939869>>9939619>>9940054
>>9940153>The Witty didn't meant to make it all about Gwen and homosexuality.
>>9940025>I cannot tell you how irritating it is to see people praise what is almost a carbon fucking copy of the original movie draft.To say nothing of how any valid strengths that gave it started to ring hollow when it went MKULTRA zombies-mode, and had that shadowy organization of puppeteers.
>>9940130>That's why Jewish Gwen>JewishDo you think they have circumcision for sheath-bearing mammals in Zootopia?
>>9940166people are getting reeled by a guy who knows nw by her non-zootopia nameim amazed, i need to try this later
>>9939846
Last digit is setsLast two digits are repetitionsI'll do it for iron thighs bunGive fit buns sini survive
Someone commented on NW Zootopia, FUCK, that escalated quickly!!
>>9940179I like to keep some of these around, just in case.
>>9940210Well kek wasnt kind ill do sets equal to the amount of judys i get
>>9939791>>9939867It's not that much of a plothole, adoption can take a LONG time, 1-3 years, especially with a newborn/surrogateThey could have started inquiring just as Travis went away to school and just now gotten the kid
>>9939536>Gideon and Travis with a gaybieWell that was unexpected.
>>9940209Well?!Where is he?!
>>9940025>I cannot tell you how irritating it is to see people praise what is almost a carbon fucking copy of the original movie draft.
>>9940255Zootopia's Britbong doppelganger Zootropolis.
>>9940233Was TheWittyArsonist, dare I say, THE original Queen of Feels?
>>9940251not really
>>9940270I assume you're saying that's a stupid thing to say in a fanfiction community, yes?There's a difference in writing unoriginal stories and outright copying the original script, I think. This is not a criticism I have for Zistopia fic alone, you know.
>>9940206I don't know what's more sad, the fact that one of NW's fans was white knight trolling or that her main account actually called TheWittyArsonist.
>>9940209>>9940255>>9940280
I think this is only the second time I've ever seen Honey as a bartender/bar owner before.
>>9940303Ehh. I didn't see the preview sketch.
I like all the experts that rip on the original Zootopia plot, saying how bad and flawed it was.They seem to forget the 2 or 3 years Disney put into it before succumbing to 'profitability' ideals, and throwing out what would have become the next Animal Farm classic.
>>9939336>>9939504uh oh
>>9940360it's from january so no worries.
>>9940361Who is ripping on the original Zootopia plot?Are you talking about people outside these threads?
>>9940361Ultimately we don't know all that much about the plot outside of a vague overview but honestly it was so on-the-nose and felt like it was smacking me over the head with its message even with just that vague overview that I can't imagine how the full film would've beenPlus it failed in its original purpose, which was to make the city itself likeable enough to the viewers
>>9940338>Zootropolis is like the Silent Hill of Zootopia
>>9940361Indeed, the original was a much more mature and thoughtful take on prejudice and would have definitely been one of the generation defining movies. Instead we got a movie to pander to furries with a lot product placement, animal puns and Shakira songs. It's sad to see people rip on the author's original view because of consumerism and Mickey's grubby hands.
>>9940322yes, quite, remind me if you please the part in Zistopia where Judy wasn't a policewoman but an emergency call receptionist?because THAT was part of the original script
>>9940361Yeah, and they should've given Gary Goldman the credit that he's due.Loony Zootopia would've been great!
I'm going to revoke your shitposting rights.
>>9940490too late
which Pack Street secretly watches Naruto and which one openly watches Naruto
>>9940490as if you fucking could you pathetic scum
I won't sleep, I'll take requests!>>9940338>"Don't go to Ravenh- Zootropolis!">>9940379Kek
>>9940524>I'll take requests!ur tube taking a dick :^)
>>9940524Your mongoose sleeping on a pillow that's larger than he is.
>>9940524your take on me Mr drawing Mongoose, pls?
>>9940516Marty watches it and would never admit itAl is the alpha, he sits down in the lobby and blasts that shit. Why would he need to hide it?
>>9940396Just saying that any time someone tries to flesh out the original story (and a few have done so) they get howled down for doing so.Someone named Norway(?) put up a full rewrite interpretation of the original story, which I shilled, and only got negative comment.I found it gripping, intense, sad and enjoyable.
>>9940461I'm sure you know 'carbon copy' is hyperbole, so I don't really see what you're even trying to say.Yes, there are differences between all of the rehashed Zistopia fics, but almost none of them really amount to anything significant. If I was that concerned about making a note of a literal Manbat-esque plotpoint on one of them, I would have.
>>9940524Fru Fru Big worshiping her Nick Wilde shrine.With or without her father getting ready to ice Nick.
>>9940562now I want Al and Ozzy screaming BELIEVE IT together
>>9940524 request you to sleep
>>9940516Secret: Remmy, because of course he's a closet weeb in addition to everything else.Openly: Marty & Velvet. When she's free, they both try to binge as much as they can till they get to where Boruto is now.
>>9940338Which artist is this?
>>9940563>oncelying is ugly, you posted several times and tried to force it to come up as a subject every time rathet than motivate people to talk about it. obviously people wouldve had a negative reactionits like people namedropping tempest every given chance, kitsunegari/rsb author posting it at least once every thread, EK/-J posting like they were using signature or even phantom
>>9940572>Yes, there are differences between all of the rehashed Zistopia fics, but almost none of them really amount to anything significant.please, refer to:>>9940179and>>9940233NW's attempt at Zootopia may have started as a copy, but the further it progressed, the more it went not only for a hyperbole, but a literal jump through our perception of Euclidean space
>>9940461I still wonder how that became a thing, or how that transitioned into Judy being an officer. I guess receptionist with dreams of being a cop? How did Nick play into this?
>>9940725>>9940725Wait, if Judy was just a call center bunny, then how the hell was she chasing Nick all through Little Rodentia?You sure this wasn't just super early concept art, like secret agent Nick?
>>9940649That be Foxbutt
>>9940651>Once?Sorry, just reread my post, never said I shilled once, I agree I shilled a few times.I did so at various points during the 36 chapter read, because I was enjoying it, but knew many would baulk at something that long.And yes, the end would be open to interpretation, unless you are a close friend of Lord Byron.
>>9940563Because collars are always used for cheap abloos and always fall upon themselves on logic or preachyness, people already have a knee jerk reaction to it. It's like coming here and saying "Hey! There is this really sad, griping, intense and enjoyable [abortion drama][cheating][torture porn][ocxcanon][human in zootopia][rape] fic, please read!" and expecting positive comments.
>>9940694I'm sorry, but I really don't understand what we're in disagreement with.I said Zistopis was never good in the first place, because - as you have just said - it started out as nothing more than a copy. The part about being angry people give Zistopia rehashes too much credit was directly tied to me saying it was never good in the first place. The reason I was defending against the notion that it was a "drop in quality" is because it was never good in the first place (as it was a rehash of something someone already wrote).What I am trying to say is people shouldn't be surprised when writers out themselves as not knowing what the fuck they're doing the moment they're no longer propped up by someone else's work. People praised Zistopia when it was a rehash. Exactly what I was saying. Now they don't because NW is a fucking loon.
>>9940793The whole flashback segment in Bunnyburrow was fucking great actually. But the moment NW stopped talking about old music the entire thing went to shit
>>9940754Yeah, this is still secret agent stuff. Nick in a suit and cream colored Judy as his newbie partner.
>>9940754>>9940754who knows, maybe Judy would flash a fake badge, make some very precise questionsJudy was a receptionist because "there's never been a bunny policeman", so they started with her character as the literally small character that had the potential to be a policeman/detective but would never be considered because of her race
anyone else hate zistopia
>>9940832noAnyone else HATES Zootopia?
>>9940594No, tomorrow is Saturday and it is only 3 in the morning
Post characters who you could probably take in a fight
>>9940865:C I... I'm just worry man...
>>9940865i request you never sleep again
>>9940754Oh it is definitely early concept art, most likely when they were making the change from Savage Seas/City to Zootopia. I just question why Judy was in this role during the time.
>>9940867Rex seems like the type who wouldn't even fight back if I smacked him up a bit
>>9940867
>>9940831>who knows, maybe Judy would flash a fake badge, make some very precise questionsThen how at any point is Nick arrested or in danger of being arrested? I'm sure that even in Zootopia, someone impersonating an officer can't arrest anyone.
>>9940923thats actually kinda sad
>>9940865>'''Only''' 3 in the morningSleeeeeep
>>9940922Maybe they were trying to go for CIA analyst/researcher winding up getting caught in an incident?Sort of like a furry Jack Ryan Sr?
>>9939536>gay country boys in monogamous relationships based on mutual loveWe in a world of pure imagination now
>>9940922I think it's [strike]Judy[/strike] a bunny.
>>9940867melodyrosie too probably
>>9940524pinup terry
>>9940793then I misunderstood, but nonetheless disagree with youCollartopia had potential to be a good movie, but Disney will never dare to make another depressing/sad setting since the Dark Cauldron
>>9938023That's actually pretty rare, brazilians monkeys are all about asses
>>9941033Come with me, and you'll be,In a woooorld of sodomizing Travis...
>>9940923Do not hurt Rex.
>>9941037Do not bully the little hustlers!
>>9939536>And also that you just LOVE baby OCs in your talking animal fanfiction?At least there is a reason for it to be there.90% of the time the baby isn't even fucking relevant and just a topic for fucking abloo.
>>9940929she works for the police, it could range from a citizen's arrest, being technically an officer despite working in a different area, to her being given authority in the matter as a trial
>>9941048Well that's fine, but I never said collartopia was bad. I even really like it.I just don't like it when people steal the whole fucking thing and then act like hot shit.
>>9941048Wasn't the reason that Black Cauldron failed because Disney didn't promote it at all, Eisner cut like 20 minutes out of the movie, thus causing it to fail against Care Bears?
>>9941048It had the potential to be, but from what we've seen it deserved to die.
Who in Hollywood still has any balls?
>>9941085I still think that pretending to have a shield, even if you do work for the police in a capacity, is still grounds for impersonation and unlawful arrest.
>>9940867Dewey looks gay, he's probably never been in a fight beforeDon's all bark and no bite, he relies on his intimidating presence rather than actual power
>>9941048There was a lot of interesting things about Protopia that I like, like Honey, Kosolov, and others.But it had the biggest voodoo shark explanation I've seen/read in awhile. That somehow, Nighthowlers don't work if you are wearing a collar.>>9941126Gary Goldman does. That's why he's finally launching his suit for copyright infringement.
>>9941163
>>9941163あなたは病気の変態です。転記をやめてください。
>>9941163Rabbit hoppy · Judy will explode leaky sperm into my penis. I marry Bunny and I love releasing it to her carrot hole. I have a longer rod than Nick and a thick knot that connects my ball to the uterus and the vulva. Tasty delicious tasty inside a fun hole in Bunny!
>>9941088gald to see we found some common ground anon>>9941101>Disney didn't promote it at alllike with Zoo? I mean, outside of that one short, Gisnep didn't even try to sell cheap shit like McDonald toys or the like>>9941119you're really funny anon, I will kill you last
>>9936877I never knew you drew my zoosona, Wynn! Thank you!When was this drawn? I've never seen it before, and now I feel bad
>>9941163빌어 먹을, 너 자신을 죽여라.
>>9941220>Judy will explode leaky sperm into my penis
>>9941258>never had urethral penetration
>>9941251Fuck you, kill yourself.
>>9941271genuine bunny baculumfuck
>>9941243>like with Zoo?Black Cauldron was pre-Internet, so back then it was harder for movies without big ad pushes to get recognized at the time.Same thing happened with Rescuers Down Under.Zootopia had the fortune of being under-advertised in the Internet age, where it's much more possible to get buzz even without much TV/Movie ad play.
>>9936877Nick and Judy incognito
>>9940577Here you go!>>9940911Hi worry man, I'm A_Sig>>9940921>>9940983Ahahah nope
>>9941388>Hi worry man, I'm A_SigHi dad... daddy... daddy!.. I will call you daddy from now and on.
when is pack street coming back
Its so hot over here...>>9937274They look wonderful, Zhan! I especially like how they're all smiling!Even Stan has a little bit of a grin. Don't tell me he doesn't.>>9938099>>9939297>>9939366>>9939427>>9939458>>9939720>>9939846>>9940209>>9940338>>9940379You two have been bouncing off each other for a few days and I love it.OJ and Foxbutt make a great team!>>9939536Ahhh! It looks wonderful Mead!Travis looks comfy in that sweater. Why do all tube dudes wear sweaters?>>9941388That is incredibly creepy! I love it! Hope TT is going well with you, sleepless tuber!...Are you wearing a sweater right now? I need to know for science.
>>9941455Don't you live in cali? Stop all this sweater talk ya dumb bisch
>>9941455You think you're hot, it's 106 where I live right now.
>>9941388>makeshift nick
>>9940550What is thisAre you the Spidey mammal>>9940534U will die first :^)>>9941455Not eve began TTAnd who uses sweater with this weather
>>9941472If he's anywhere near me, I pity him. It was over one hundred fucking degrees this afternoon.>>9941506909 by any chance?
>>9941520702, which I feel confident saying because it covers an entire goddamn city.
>Ozzy longs to be touched.>Desperate for affection, but too shy to truly reach out beyond surface interactions and try to initiate getting physical himself.>Velvet thinks that sexual therapy could help him, slow and gentle.>Al, of course, growls at the idea. He immediately retorts that there's no way he'd allow Ozzy to lay paws on his fiance without him being there.>Velvet tries to protest to Al he's being ridiculous and overprotective, but Ozzy agrees>Having two people to get close to was even better.
I heard you guys liked Borba
>>9941542Nevada huh? That explains it. So Cal isn't much better today I'm afraid. It was 103 down here last time I checked.
>>9941578a literal sloth
>>9940867Hey now, don't underestimate Percy!Or do. I guess that's fine.
>>9941573he's like really big on hugs thoughI dont know if sexual advancements are that far off for him
>wonder why the thread is somewhat slow at this hour>check phone>>9938082im off to bed
>>9941515y-yes?
>>9941598sup inkyisn't percy really fit? or at least he advertises himself as such
>>9941598whats he gonna do, cry?meanwhile I punt him across the room with just the flick of a wrist
>>9941604He's super big on hugs.But is he big on initiating hugs?
>>9941622If nothing else he's fast, and he does in fact lift. I can't say he has a mountain of muscle but to say he's weak is also incorrect. If he chose to fight back he might actually be a at least a bit of trouble, if not more.>>9941625Assumptions like that are what lead a man to an early grave.
>>9941675...probably?
>>9941472I do!I wanted to talk sweaters in regards to tube dudes. Maybe they're legally obligated? If they wear sweaters during this heat, then I feel sorry for them...>>9941506Yucky!>>9941515>And who uses sweater with this weather... is the answer tube dudes?>>9941598Hello Inky!How does Percy work out? Calisthenics? Does he go to a gym? Does he had a workout outfit that has some sort of snappy gym joke like "2pl8 2bdude", or is he legally obligated to wear a sweater even when working out?
/ztg/ im going into battle and i need your strongest reaction images
>>9941716
>>9941716Who/what are you fighting senpai?
>>9941692Hi inky!I hope you're having a good day. On an unrelated question, do you think any of your characters might visit Mystic Springs?
>>9941716>>9941739
>>9941754>>9941716
>>9941711>How does Percy work out?
>>9941716>>9941765
>>9941779Shaddap
>>9941779#asstograss
>>9941711The only outdoor excercising he does is jogging. He's too self-conscious to go the the gym. He mostly works out at home. Calisthenics are a definite and he also lifts weights. To his scale, of course. The basics like push-ups, pull-ups, and sit-ups are also a definite.>>9941752Y'mean the nudist spa? I did a comic about it before.Realistically I could see Hugh's mom going there. I could picture Roxy and Andrew thinking it's fun, and Hugh probably wouldn't mind it too much either.>>9941779Hahaha, I considered posting that one!
>>9941388Ha, thank you dude!
>>9941797What, you've never attended a Sit-and-Spin Class?
>>9941711Fun Fact:All tubes are government mandated to wear turtleneck sweaters in public at all times!Failing to do so will earn them one strike on their state sanctioned Tube Certification, after three strikes a tube's certification will be revoked.In the event of a tube's certification being revoked they will be required to re-complete the official tube course at their local Tube Training Center, until such time as the course has been completed, the tube will not have access to the full privileges of their status as an Official Tube.
>>9941716My reaction images are too strong for you, poster.
>>9941916Fun Fact:When tubes wear their turtlenecks up past their chins they look like uncircumcised penises.
>>9941848Skunkcest when?
>>9941929
>>9941848I bet he can do really cool stuff, like handstand push ups and muscle ups.It must be harder to stop from arching your back as a tube, since you have so much more of it...>>9941887Haaaaaahahahaha! Oh its so funny I forgot to LAUGH!>>9941916This sounds like Bunishment! Totally unfair!Sigh... buns and tubes have a lot in common...I need to get cooking, but I'll be back later tonight! Remember to work hard on TT now so you don't have to work hard after the deadline!Also there is no deadline for TT.
>>9940867>>9941598>>9941625>>9941692Your lower legs will rue the day you crossed Percy.
>>9942056Exactly.Also your upper.
>>9942056It must be frustrating when your attacks are meaningless to someone wearing shin guards.
>>9940547>>9940594Always wanted to do an update on that old pic, now is the moment.Sorry Spidey >>9941614, but my resistance hit a wall, time for me to say goodnight /ztg/.Tomorrow I will be able to stay up longer>>9941916This is a lie>>9941971THIS IS LIES AND SLANDER>>9941848Percy is easy to defeat.Just give him a hug.
>>9942123Sleep tight tuber!
>>9942123>4:30am>>Tomorrow I will be able to stay up longerYou absolute madmanSleep tight mongoose!
Reminder that Jack pleasures Skye so hard she can barely walk straight in the morning.
>>9942123goodnight, a_sig
>>9942123Thanks a_sig.Sleep well!
>>9941972Second.
>>9942041>Haaaaaahahahaha! Oh its so funny I forgot to LAUGH!Geez...That, uh...That kinda hurts.Why you gotta bully?
>>9942190because he's so bad she turns gay ?
>>9941972>>9942246We should lewd all the skunks.They are lewd mammals
>>9939230I just don't want to have to think or hear about tumblr or feel any of the godless tripe it makes me feel.
>>9942246Its cause his fox won't keep him in line, the thread really needs to step it up and starting giving him some regular disciplining.
>>9942482Bah I meant to link >>9942250 Well you can keep the (You) 2246
>>9942250the bullied becomes the bully
>>9942190I'm trying to figure out what that tiny little bun mouth could possibly do to provoke that drastic of a reaction from Skye, and the only possible combination I'm coming up with is "buck teeth" and "clitoris".
>>9939000>>9939011You forgot one.>>9938781Don't care about aesthetics when there's that incredible derrière.
>>9942671>>9942686fag
>>9942671>>9942686
>>9942730
not counting zootopia, do you prefer old disney movies or newer disney movies ?
>>9942837I like new releases in general since it's easier to find people to talk about them with
>>9942837They are a mixed bag. Some are good, some are bad. Same as every generation of movies.
>>9942837I grew up with the old ones so I'm pretty damn biased.
>>9940348Holy shit, this is fantastic and I never saw it in this thread before.>>9940361>2 or 3 years Disney put into it before succumbing to 'profitability' ideals, and throwing out what would have become the next Animal Farm classic.Truth. The original plot was better than any Disney movie ever had. It would have made cinematic history.>>9941573>>Desperate for affection, but too shy to truly reach out beyond surface interactions and try to initiate getting physical himself.Anon pls, I come here to get away from real life.>>9942686Shit urban design. What's the point of 2 storm drains so close?
>>9942966>What's the point of 2 storm drains so close?fit twice as many raccoons duh
>>9942909Same. But there's a pretty solid line that I grew up with. The Lion King, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid...around that era, that's what I grew up with (along with pretty much everything Don Bluth did). Aside from Robin Hood and The Jungle Book, I didn't see much of the older stuff until I was older.
>>9942966>>2 or 3 years Disney put into it before succumbing to 'profitability' ideals, and throwing out what would have become the next Animal Farm classic.>Truth. The original plot was better than any Disney movie ever had. It would have made cinematic history.>the movie that was going to end on a "and the collars were gone and everyone was happily ever after"I mean sure it would be an edgy animation with dark theme made by a company that normally makes children movies, but it wouldn't have made any history. People are comparing Zootopia to Animal Farm and Mauz forgetting that Protozoot was going to have "Nick is turned savage but power of love" ending.I don't mean to sound rude but this is the same level of acting like Pirates of the Caribbean is making cinematic story. Please reconsider where your life has led you.
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>>9942837OLDwhy do you ask?
>>9942873>>9942884>>9942909>>9943220BECAUSE! i just needed to know, it is movie time and i didn't know what to play!so after mulling(see a coin toss) for a bit we will have:The princess and the frogTangledFrozenand of course, as always, Zootopia!movies will begin in 10 minutes so go get your drinks, snacks, blankets, get comfy and enjoy!http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dYhFLYxXYTRhttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/dYhFLYxXYTRhttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/dYhFLYxXYTRnext stream i'll go to the older movies
>>9943277Heyyyy, I've never seen any of theseJoining
>>9943277Oh rad I never actually saw Tangled.
New thread is ready>>9943334>>9943334>>9943334
>>9943345good
Can we title the next thread "We jumped the gun on a new thread edition?"
>>9943045While I appreciate there were plot-holes (hey, we're talking about Hollywood here), I was just pointing that, when was the last time we got a movie out of Disney/Hollywood where the lead dies in the end, or at least it looks like the world's going to continue downhill?The intention was to still end up as a 'happy ever after' Disney film, but everyone got cold feet at the depth of abloo in the middle.Is society becoming that fragile?>Just imagining George Orwell working with Ralph Bakshi...
>>9943479Blame >>9943119
>>9943479not the first time it happens, let just this thread die.
>>9943277Ever thought of 'Wizards' or 'Fritz the Cat'?How about 'Fantastic Planet'?Have you ever put up any of the Miyazaki films?
>>9943551>>Have you ever put up any of the Miyazaki films?lots of em!>Ever thought of 'Wizards' or 'Fritz the Cat'?>How about 'Fantastic Planet'?i'll check those out.
>>9943479There is literally no difference between page 9 and page 10Literally none
>>9943551People jumped out during either Wizards or Cool World, if my memory serves me right.Hoping it's the latter since I actually really liked Wizards.>>9943482>at least it looks like the world's going to continue downhill?Off the top of my head?Mad Max: Fury RoadWorld sure as shit aint getting better anytime soon in that movie.
>>9943045Personally, I liked the setting, that version of Nick with Wilde Times interested me, and would have liked to see the dynamics between a Nick who was both a guy trying to make money as well as, in some ways, trying to give predators some type of peace vs a veteran cop, more confident/arrogant Judy who was most likely put through the ringer with prejudice against bunnies but never had anything really challenge her views on foxes.The main thing that puts me off from Prototopia is the collars. They force you to have a pretty challenging suspension of disbelief that prey forced collars on predators some time in recent history, and that predators didn't simply escape from the city (unless collars were enforced to the boundaries of Bunnyburrow and beyond). I guess you could see the collars as "prejudice that everyone contributes to by not stopping it". In the end, I don't know; maybe the previous script could have had some merit, maybe not. They did make some good points of the difficulty of the Prototopia (creating more and more backstory for Nick, his creation of Wilde Times, then getting into the meat of the movie of the night howlers, Bunnyburow, the "breakup"), and it sometimes it makes me think that part of the issue might have been time constraints and they simply couldn't fit all of it into the film.
>>9943482If people missed the message with the final movie we got, they'dve been totally fucking lost with the original movie.Especially since it was an allegory for Byron's life as a gay man.
>>9943581>>>Have you ever put up any of the Miyazaki films?>lots of em!OK, will admit I don't follow all the time.Caution, Fritz the Cat is R rated.Don't see that anymore.
>>9943632>Especially since it was an allegory for Byron's life as a gay man.Fun thing to note: Byron Howard, being 48, lived through the AIDS epidemic along with his husband and likely saw many of their friends dieActually that wasn't so fun
>>9943704So, in Prototopia, Nighthowlers were a stand in for AIDS?
>>9943621>they simply couldn't fit all of it into the film.In hindsight, you're probably right.
>>9943742Nah, it'd be infectious if that were the caseI see it more as a literal metaphor for people thinking other groups are inherently dangerous
>>9943816But it's a government conspiracy to disenfranchise a minority so that they can essentially drive them out of the major cities and into uncertainty. So it's either AIDS or crack.That's the kind of heavyhanded this that would have turned people off the movie.Really, aside from some certain ideas and scenes, most of Prototopia would have been just as much of a mess as Zistopia was....but at least Byron and Jared wouldn't have had tonnes of tumblr politics and MKUltra zombies in it, so points to them.
>>9943688it's alright, anon! everyone watches when they have the time!thanks for the warning about the movie.
We are now officially at the bottom of page 9.
>>9944028So one more page to go.
>>9944059Almost no one sticks around when the thread is on page 10 except for the times when people forget to make a new thread.
It's time>>9943334>>9943334>>9943334
>>9943598Well I mean, they murdered the big boss and took over the fort. Reunited the girls and their family. Had the backing of the majority of the strongholds people. Seems like a step up from where they were in the beginning. It's not sunshine and rainbows, but it's about as good as it can feasibly get for that movie.What I want to know...if their resources are so limited, why the fuck are they using it on shit like silver spray paint?
>>9943802That was part of the issue with having Nick be the protagonist, to make you really sympathize with him they need to keep adding to his backstory. His dad was rejected by all the banks for the tailor shop, Nick was rejected when he wanted to start Wilde Times, he had to go to the mob, then him being shot with night howler in his own park and framed for it or whatever gets him arrested. You could probably sprinkle all of that info throughout the movie but then it might get confusing. Judy makes an easier protag because her origin is simple; she is just a bunny, who comes from a carrot farming family, who wants to have a job no bunny has ever had before, and she was bullied/attacked by a fox when she was a kid. Boom, done, you don't need to know more about her. Other parts of her personality can be shown through present actions rather than showing past events.
>>9944198That water's gonna run out sooner or later, and there's no replacement or oasis for miles.Furiosa's promised land is also an inhospitable swamp.The people from the other enclaves might be fucked over due to the deaths of their leaders, such as the Bullet Farmers.
>>9944279Ya probably gonna be a vicious civil war over in bullet town unless some outside influence decides to try and try and take power.
>>9938002TWOTWO