/ztg/ - Zootopia General: Sharing With The Family EditionPastebin: pastebin.com/iYDU8g2TZTG Creator List: derpy.me/ztgcclistArchives: www.ztarchive.com / desuarchive.org / archive.b-stats.orgPrevious thread: http://www.ztarchive.com/trash/thread/9704545Thematic Thursday Theme: Late NightSubmissions are due June 8th!More information on TT: derpy.me/trashthematicthursdaysTT Archive: t3event.tumblr.com
First for cucking is forbidden in this thread.
second for nothing
>>9708218delete this
>>9708218Nick has to share as well.
>>9708245delete urself faggit
Did someone say penis
>>9708259I don't like it either, but whatever. The art is good.But the people who say things like "I want to write stories just as bad as Eloquence and other cucking stories but with Nick cucking Judy because I'm so mad about those stories" are just writing bad stories.There's a huge difference between a fic with a different ship and being someone who would go out of their way to write what amounts to revenge porn.
>>9708237whoops
Do you think Marty would support Marxism?
>>9708341Probably not, since he knows it will never work.
>>9708341Marty is a communist
>>9708341Karl Marts
>>9708273Fite me you fucking infidel.
>>9708237Heterosexual fox based relations only
>>9708324Ive never understood why people will go out of their way to read bad fics by mentally ill teenage girls and complain about them. And then, people see people complaining about them, and then reading them because they want to see how bad it is.And then everyone discussing how bad it is and how angry they are that its bad.
Shitpost for the weekend- Finn giving Jude a much needed "foxy education"Also, goodnight guys and gals, later!
>>9708409Oh shit, Pencil Anon is a Weavlar now.
>>9708429Gnight T! Sleep well buddy. Also floof nick a best.
>>9708324I think the initial idea was that Judy cheats on Nick and doesn't put up with that and ends up with Violet.It still has a problem of Judy cheating on Nick for no reason other than being a whore and not giving a fuck about Nick. Why can't premise be that Judy and Nick are friends and Judy decides to help her sister get together with Nick, since she has a crush on him, or something to that effect? Why does it have to be cuck or cheating, just write a nice fluffy (maybe even lewd) Violet/Nick story, for fuck's sake.
>>9708429Nice!Do you have tumblr furafinity or deviantart?
>>9708416Good fics don't exist and are a lie perpetuated by the writefags in these threads
>>9708416Well, if we don't read it, how can we know it is bad?Also, many people like to argue and debate, because we all want to prove our points, so there is thatLet's keep things civil and try not to fall to the dark pit of hatre, I think it is the best we could do
>>9708324So, can we just all agree not to write revenge porn then? If you want to write SavageHopps, WildeViolet, or any other non-WildeHopps ship, just write about the pairing and not a third party in some love triangle going abloo?
>>9708416I'm willing to bet most of the people who insist on complain about bad fics don't read anything else.>>9708451>Why can't premise be that Judy and Nick are friends and Judy decides to help her sister get together with Nick, since she has a crush on him, or something to that effect? Why does it have to be cuck or cheating, just write a nice fluffy (maybe even lewd) Violet/Nick story, for fuck's sake.That's all I'm saying.
>>9708454Both, but I dwell on reddit most often, and now, 4chan>>9708442Night night, a fox says "hi"
>>9708480Please link your reddit and the others 2 accounts
>>9708480Sorry by "both" I meant deviantart and tumblr
>>9708504Just search toannghe1997, but remember, I am T on 4chan
>>9708521Thanks anon
Violet
>>9708542
>>9708542takes
>>9708550good care of
>>9708550abortion
GAYCOUNTRYBOYS
>>9708561as a serious matter
>>9708561jerks!
>>9708411We need more Nick/Skye lewds, even though this is technically cucking, which is forbidden.
>>9708451>just write a nice fluffy (maybe even lewd) Violet/Nick story, for fuck's sake.>When you have wrote a fluffy Violet/Nick (kind of) story for this week's TT>>9708457>Let's keep things civil and try not to fall to the dark pit of hatre, I think it is the best we could doI agree; the bad points of those stories should be pointed out but not given a lot of attention. Just a thing of "Do not do what this story does" and leave it at that. Granted I think most people here wouldn't write anything like those stories in the first place, but still.
>>9708566
Avo should really stop leaving her toys lying around. It's unsanitary and just plain rude.
>>9708594>When you have wrote a fluffy Violet/Nick (kind of) story for this week's TTLink it, faggot. Learn to shill your stuff. How are you hoping to become /ztg/ famous otherwise?
>>9708586I'll keep that in mind
>>9708642Hey TG, never thought that I could find you here! But who am I kidding, I never thought F could dwell here as well
https://aggie.io/ckp0vieh/https://aggie.io/ckp0vieh/https://aggie.io/ckp0vieh/
>>9708680So many different styles...THIS IS HERESY
>>9708578>Violet takes abortion jerksSo what I'm getting here is Violet likes to watch bucks jerk off to abortion because she and they, like the rest of their species, values life so very little.Fucked up if true.
>>9708725..............................kinda fucked up, kinda hotNo wait, just fucked up!
>>9708680Damn where's that pic nobby drew of Finnick going Super Saiyan
>>9708723It's also acording to the Bible heresy to eat shrimps...
Who is the best Pack Street character?Who is the worst Pack Street character?Who is the most average?
>>9708748Cute little fluffy buns being callous is kind of hot, the dichotomy is fun.Genuine bunny ear jobs, anon.
>>9708881Best Pack Street character: everyoneWorst Character:nooneMost Average: Marty because seriously I become more and more like him (excluding the being small part)
>>9708881Best is Marty because tube dudes are always the best.
>>9708872Really? Passage? Really like all the heresies
>>9708888>they kept two still gets me
>>9708888>prolife nick>prochoice judy>IWS
>>9709018Thus you shall get your aswer Leviticus 11:10 " But anything in the seas or the rivers that does not have fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you."
>>9709073Nice, seems like Mollusks are heresies too.
>>9708888>being this desperate for dox fick >still fucking and being impregnated by Jack>Nick falling for that level of whoredomMakes no sense.
>>9708881Best: RemmyHe is flawed but well meaning character with great development arc.Worst: NoneAverage: Probably the side characters lke the tiger bros and Don Dewey
>>9708881Best: OzzyWorst: AvoAverage: Wolter
>>9708332How many sad Jacks will end up in the background of this.
Four in the morning for me. 0__0I love aggies, but I need sleep, back soon for the theatre...
>>9708881Reminder that Remmy is a ramlet.
>>9709155>Old boy bum
>>9708271hotttt
>>9708271Unfortunaly she can't be saved, the hearth eye desease is uncureable.
>>9709217I blame patient zero. If only he weren't such a lewd bun and been bullied enough
>>9709217>sheLooks like r63 Judy to me.
>>9709184
>>9709096They are all crazy, don't try to make sense of crazy.Still can't find the bad ending version of this.
>>9709096You don't know what TRUE LOVE looks like.
>>9709351
>>9709351Sprinkah should have renamed it into "what staring sadly into space looks like". Would fit much better.
>>9709254There is only on thing we can do now, capture patient zero at all cost and find a cure. Before it infects and destorys us all.
>>9709343Here ya go.
Which version of Encarta was the best in Zootopia? Was it still 95?
>>9709096Sometimes it doesn't have to make sense. Sometimes broken things and people are fun.Sometimes you want to cum on a twitching bunny nose.
>>9709575I can only agree on the last sentiment.
>>9709575Everything is right about this, except for "sometimes."
Hello everyone! I just finished the 3rd chapter of A Fox Tribe's Rabbit.I little slow, relaxing chapter, of the two of them actually having the time to talk.This chapter also can be considered TT entry since it plays during the night. (that was an unintended coincidence)Hope you will enjoy it:https://pastebin.com/u/AFoxTribesRabbit>>9674200> maybe make Nick more of a smartass and better at social engineering. Him knowing everybody and being able to form connections and his sense of humor are important parts of his character.I agree, only problem is that this would go against the premise set by BoneyM's A Rabbit Clan's Fox. Nick is at the bottom of the "food-chain" in his tribe, it would take one warrior to mistake his humor to disrespect and he would get a horrible beating. I did try to keep him a bit snarky, but it will only show with foxes relativly equal with him, and Judy.
>>9708680>my fetish in therei love you tgg
>>9709738aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>9708881Best Character: DoraWorst Character: That one wolf guy with diabetes. Most Average: Dewey
someone a thread or two ago voiced interest in PS muskI will second that request and raise it to musk hypnosis m/m>>9708881best: wolt or martyworst: cliff or neilaveragest: don
>>9709738Yes, thank you.
>>9708888this is just character bashing at this point
>>9709738>it would take one warrior to mistake his humor to disrespect and he would get a horrible beatingHence why he would mask his disrespect with very subtle sarcasm. In general, there has to be something others respect him for. In BoneyM's fic the gear he crafts is excellent, and in real history such craftsmen were in very short supply and in very high regard. Otherwise you kinda write him as a tribe's punching bag and that's just meh.
>>9709771>That one wolf guy with diabetes>who most likely is part of the nighthowler plot and the one that darted DoraYeah, that does pretty much does sound like he's the objective worst of pack street.
>>9709785Are you the artist?
>>9709784>I will second that request and raise it to musk hypnosis m/mAre you me, anon? Thirding that.
>>9709784>>9709903You two sound like you know what's up
>>9709464How do we contain it? He can blow up buildings
would these threads read light watersports (like scent-marking experimentation) or is that too degenerate
>>9709983yes
>>9709983Only one way to find out
>>9709847But in BoneyM's fic it was also explained, that he was not allowed to work as a crafter...He was kinda a punching bad of the fox tribe even in ARCF. That was one of the reasons he started to enjoy the easy life among rabbits.In fact, I talk about THAT in this chapterbut in short, there are facts from BoneyM's ARCF:-He has no "Ancestor" and that means he is not allowed to work officially as a crafter.-He only trades his crafts to a few hunters in secret.-Those hunters extorted him, giving him scarce spoils of their hunt for the best of his work, because they knew he can't complain to anyone, because what he did was illegal.I tried to recapture this premise and fill up some holes
So I was recently thinking about Pack Street,(I want to make clear I do not make any real life race/class comparisons and this is only about the world of Zootopia/PS)I noticed that there is this kind of a bias against prey. Since the start prey are being portrayed in a bad light. When some prey appears they are practically always an asshole, there was Velvet's bro, that cunt ewe, asshole pig, that dipshit stag and all of the prey onlookers, the bunnies that broke Wolter's heart, Al's rodent bosses, Remmy's boss and probably family...The only prey that are good in the stories are Velvet, who got and still gets a lot of shit for the Fall Back controversy, and Remmy.And even he is disliked by a lot of people here.While prey are described as the bad, distrusting group where bias and specieism is a norm, the preds are always the really open and possitive group, the few assholes on this side like the bear or Phil are just bad apples.Remmy gets always lectured on how bad and unfriendly he acts, and as much as true that is, some members of the pack are as much guilty, but that is always overlooked or excused with sometimes really flawed "It was for your good" or "This is how it works here" or "You just don't get it". There is always that presence telling Remmy "Just look at how much this is better then what you had previously. Just look at how much the pack is better than what you come from." Al even got outright disgusted when Remmy talked about herd.To herd, I feel herd could have been used as a tool to show that while prey and pred are different they have a lot more in common than they one would believe. Instead it ended as a direct opposite to pack. "Look at how much our open and friendly and helpful pack is better than your intolerant, strict, xenophobic herd" I do believe that Weaver tries to portray the situation as neutral and both sided as he can, but I feel he put a little more of good into the pred basket.But this is just my observation.
>>9709983God, yes. A thousand times yes.
>>9709766>>9709785You are most wecome!Hope you enjoyed it.
>>9710061Yeah, I just read that. That explains it. Still, disregarding a skilled craftsmammal like that seems kinda stupid. I hope the fic will end with reformation of this ridiculous social structure. Or maybe Nick will become an Ancestor himself with some great deed. Or Judy. Or them together.
>>9710076Probably a situation where "everyone sucks, but since we're in our neighbourhood we're more comfortable and friendly, at least to each other."
>>9710144>disregarding a skilled craftsmammal like that seems kinda stupidWelcome to caste systems. It's hugely inefficient but it solidifies the position of those in power.
What degenerate things do the Pack like to do in bed?
>>9710076Oh no, he definitely made prey evil and intolerant and predators the kindest people ever, even when shit happens they are justified or just flawed and apologize. A pack is alright letting a sheep and anyone in, they're a big fluffy family. A herd is hard and kills babies, etc. Predators have suffered from prey attacks and collars. Prey never suffered anything. Prey see predator teeth and think they are monsters, predators have to keep mouth shut when smiling. Predators try to win life and become successfully through their merit and get shot down by THE MAN, who are prey. Canon curd club etc. I thought it was just setting for Remmy to notice how he now see people mistreating predators, but it obvious as fuck.
>>9710197Sleep
>>9710197cry
>>9710197Snuggle for warmthHolds each others paws in theirsEnjoy the feel of each other's breath on their furIdly chat about everything and nothing in hushed whispers, just to hear the sound of each other's voice
>>9710205Gee, I wonder who's behind this post.
>>9710197Cry.
>>9710197Eat and get crumbs all over the god damned place.
>>9710197Compare dick size.
>>9710197Ritualistic primal orgy in the forest as a part of the Pack tradition they do every year to honor their ancestral heritage. Alpha always has to get pleasure tribute by everyone from the Pack. Even boys have to give atleast a bj.
>>9710229Can you please not post shit like this? It's making me really uncomfortable.
>>9709983Absolutely
Reshilling some requests from yesterday, in case the anons who requested went to sleep too early
>>9710229Get woken up by the other saying 'are you awake' and pretend they were still awake so they don't make them feel bad and also they don't mind being able to spend more time awake in their armsBeing briefly separated by one of them having to go to the bathroom and then wrapping up in each other anew, chasing away the chill of the world outside their blanketsSnuggling deeper into each other's embrace until they're one big happy snuggly knot of limbs and fur
>>9710197>Ozzy and Remmy sandwiching Anneke between them while stuff her pussy.
>>9710197After-sex cuddling
>>9710076>recently>after the fucking >"Wow ! This is such a beautiful, deep, soul-touching painting! I couldn't believe my eyes such fine piece of street graffiti misled me into believe this was truly the setting sun!">"Yes, my dear Cormo, we predators call this our art! It's how we speak with our souls, the prey are unable to see it that way, we have lived generations in tune with the kind side of life.">"I can't believe this! This truly is art! How amazing">"Oh no! How could it be! A red savages written over such a gorgeous piece! Can't other prey see how LOVE and UNDERSTANDING is the true answer here!? Are prey simply unable to feel empathy!? How could this happen!?">Remmy face feel on his hooves as he knelt on the ground, sobbing.
>>9710282fixed edition
>>9710314Before-sex cuddling
>>9710197Watching on their already on the last straw of dying laptop movies, mostly those cheap knock off movies.
This thread will always be better that 5N@F on /vg/
>>9710335Shitty low-res rips downloaded off coffee shop wifi and passed around from computer to computer, tinny sound turned down to preserve the battery
>>9710197Fantasize about fucking Al
>>9710355Is this a dare?
>>9710355Talk about damning with faint praise...
>>9710290anon, stop. this hurts
>>9710388I thought we purged all traces of gay Wolter months ago
Reminder of how Judy's ears look when folded back behind her
>>9710418That's bi wolter.
>>9710436
>>9710418Nope, he's back and gayer than ever.
>>9710363Nope because this Thread is heaven compared to...well those-who-should-not-be-named. >>9710370And I know that this is a wordplay but my english skills are unfortunatly not well enough to understand it, my apologize. >>9710357Also don't forget all the Malware they got because of the torrented movies.
>>9710447
>>9710418It's not gay Wolter, it's his sister, Woltina.
>>9710456
>>9710076I feel like it's been hard not to portray preds as being the innocent ones when basically the whole of Zootopia has been treating them like shit for months on endYou're right, though. There have been mentions of the negative aspects of pred life (Charlie's odd jobs, Wolt getting into trouble with the law, Whatever the fuck's going on with Ozzy) but nothing too bad. But the goal of season one I think was to get Remmy inducted into the Pack. Anything that would have made him realize that preds are equally as shitty as prey wouldn't have been productive towards that goal.I feel like season two will up the ante a little bit. Make Remmy realize that he was just a little bit right about his biases, as well as having him accept his neighbours for who they are, warts an all.That's just how I see it I guess
>>9710418He you really think you can purge a picture once it's uploaded on the internet, fool!
>>9710450'Damn with faint praise' is a saying that means that while you technically said something positive, it's so minor that it's actually insulting, like you couldn't think of anything better to say about them.
Gimme aardwool
>>9710418Every Wolter is gay Wolter
>>9710488Ah thank you for clearing me up.Well then I can say that, the comunity here is and wiill be lots of better than those dillweeds. That's at least my opinion whe I think about our colleagues at 5N@F.
>>9710542
>>9710529Both are Wolter.One is Wolter from Pack StreetThe other Wolter from an Alternate Universe where Remmy died by choking on a Bug Burger patheticly.
>>9710548
>Author had "Judy & Jack" tag on his story, along with "Nick/Judy">"Dark, adult themes">Removes the "Judy & Jack" tag, saying he doesn't think Judy would betray Nick like that>Proceeds to have Nick hate Jack, and Judy to turn into a blushing school girl around him>Complete with Jack pressing himself against Judy to help her aim a gun at the firing range, making certain 'instincts' stir in her, then notices Nick seeing themWhy am I not surprised that people can't use Jack in any other fucking way.
>>9710548Careful what you wish for, my dear boy. It may just come true.
>>9710494
>>9710570It's possible, look at Guardian Blue. It only takes not being a fucking hack and having an original idea once in a while.
>>9710585>"Best two out of three? Loser takes it in the ass?"
>>9710570http://robertfiddler.deviantart.com/art/Zootopia-AU-Operation-Melting-Point-Chapter-1-683089735>Jack is literally just a cameo>handing over important document to Judy>hugs Skye who has to stay and leavesduring the first read I actually missed it, it happened so fast
>>9710615I guess I shouldn't have said "in any other fucking way"; as you said there is Guardian Blue, then there is Fox on the Run, Electric Eldritch Eidolon, If It Ever Happens. Even if a few of those has Jack working as some type of agent, at least he isn't used as a plot device and as an actual character.Just the ratio compared to fics that can't help but have Judy basically drip at the sheer thought of Jack is staggering.
>>9710570Come on, you have to have expected it at this point. I mean if the story, is the story I think you are talking about. Right from the get go the "teaser" of a later event, had Judy happy that she can finally kill Nick or some shit.It's a stupid drama/angst pull where the author doesn't know how to right anything except that shit.>>9710615I still think it was a MASSIVE dick move for Jack to tell Bogo Nick and Judy were together, so they can be sent on a new case right from the get go.I mean give them a fucking break, they are so damn soon early into their relationship and to be sent under something that could give them great duress?That's a sure fire way for them to question and wonder what they have together could work. (And the fact that neither websites have a Judy/Nick tag or even "Romance" fills me with a dread that made me give up on the sequal.)
>>9710625>"Oh no, Remmy I lost! It looks like I will have to take those nine inches up my ass. Whatever will I do..."
>>9710765>"Just remember to open your mouth when I say so. I'm not pulling out, but I'm pretty sure I can make you taste it."
>>9710570>>9710733I've only seen it a couple times, but I like the ones where he's on support staff somewhere.He was in a cyberpunk AU Falke did, just helping out with the computers.https://archiveofourown.org/works/8248738/chapters/18902689
The Packstreet Boys
>>9710840Holy fuck
>>9710840I'm going to eat your children
>>9710722...I actually missed that. What the actual hell?>>9710759I probably should have, considering I was really dubious of the previous story and how Nick acted, but I was willing to look for curiosity's sake. After this chapter? Fuck that.>And the fact that neither websites have a Judy/Nick tag or even "Romance" fills me with a dread that made me give up on the sequalHonestly, I am not really afraid for WildeHopps in Guardian Blue. Judy almost literally went to hell for Nick, while he basically made a life promise to her that he is going to stay by her side no matter what. In just the series alone they have done a lot for each other, helping heal each other's wounds, and stuck by each other through it all. I don't think there is a real worry for them to question what they have; there isn't family drama to rip them apart, they don't give a crap about the public reaction, and they don't have eyes for anyone but each other.This might be a bit of a stretch thinking, but I feel the author hasn't put a Judy/Nick tag or Romance tag because he doesn't believe those are the focus of the stories. The relationship development just happens, while the fic focuses on this adventure/slice of life plot.
>>9710840god damn, you now I can't get the image orRemmy, Ozzy and Wolter doing this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNdM8cFuOXg
>>9709983The threads routinely have shit like people getting murdered and dissolved in a tub of acid.I think light watersports and scent marking is pretty tame for around here. Your good.
Good morning, everybody. (◡‿◡)
>>9711062Good morning Kam (although it's the afternoon here). Nice otter!
>>9709870I'm not the artist.I couldn't draw my way out of a paper bag.
>>9710840Was this his endgame all along?
>>9711062Good morning ( it's 10 PM, but whatever)!Cute otter (though I don't see the ears)
>>9711062>>971112710 pm here too! But good morning! Very pretty otter!
>>9711106>mfw all of packstreet was just an elaborate leadup to a shitty backstreet boys joke
>>9710542>>9710548death by bunny
>>9710759In that case the lack of WildeHopps tags is just because that's not the focus of the story.
Imagine Remmy looking like this.
>>9711271imagin me bangin ur mom last nite
>>9711299
>>9711299My mother died 10 Years ago in an freak accident with a train. Thank you for bringing memorys back,
>>9711320Like clockwork
>>9711340She didn't die. She survived. And now I'm banging her
>>9711365Unfortunatly you are banging your own mother right now.
>>9711389
>>9711389https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhhQhqi_AE
>>9711494GayI like it
>>9710759So far WildeHopps romance part is knly getting stronger in every chapter in GB season 2. I don't see any drama happening any time soon. So far it just reads like adventure story more than anything else.
>>9711127>>9711086>>9711186Oh it's afternoon here as well, I don't work and slept in, but I like saying good morning. Thanks for the nice words though.Also good point on the ear but I'm not even sure how to add it. Otter ears are really far back and above and behind the eye which is right where that flower is. It might poke out a bit but then it's a weird couple of lines that won't look like an ear. Yeah I'll just be lazy and say the flower is covering it.
>>9711611That's a cute lulubutt, Numbers.
Pack Street but Al is the president and everyone else is his staffRemmy is the new intern
>>9710950>>9711245>>9711521I must just be having a knee-jerk reaction, I honestly felt like the author was trying to lure us (read: ME) in with a false sense of security or something.Should try and get back into it then.
>>9711708
??????What is this
>>9711596>I'm not even sure how to add itLike this?
>>9711748It says it's Zootopia
Travis needs more love.
>>9711748looks like a furry mess of an iphone ad
>>9711494Man it feels like not too long ago that you were refusing to do lewds, a_sig. Now look where you are.Anyways, that's a pretty nice lewd. Keep on drawing and remember to get some sleep eventually.
Reshilling for the author, since I think it was missed for the most part.https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11866956/9/I do remember that the threads were rather into "Officer Needs Assistance" and yesterday saw an update to it, finally.Thing's work out, for the most part. One hell of a double standard when it comes to Nick's mistakes, (not getting into the fact that it was pretty much Judy's fault for everything that happened to him and them.) Like really.The saddening angst seems to have finally ended. At least, somewhat.
>>9711494I don't know how I missed thisThis is sweet, sigHe looks like he's fucking loving it
>>9711836>double standardsAs Bogo addressed or something else? Because I thought he explained it.
>>9711748Looks like Watership Down to me. That or the Communistic Manifesto.
>>9711494>>9711494I love it.
>>9711735I don't blame you for the reaction, after so many stories of crap in the fandom, it is understandable to have caution. I think this author has more than proven themselves though; I would like to think someone wouldn't write three stories of build up, consistent interaction between Nick and Judy actually caring and communicating with each other, just to pull a fast one on their readers.The sequel, Season 2, is really really good so far.
>>9711062 test
>>97119364chan y u ban flower ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
>>9711494DEWEYISAGOODBOY
>>9711959rip flower
>>9711875Whoops that's what I meant. On what Bogo addressed. Still though, there was so much damn buildup and for it to get sweeped under the rug? Gives me some serious mood whip lash.But I think it was because I was fully ready for some super depressing angst/practically-tragedy level stuff to happen.It leaves me happy that the shit didn't happen, but still worried for what could happen. (Since it has all but been proven that they can't work together in a professional capacity, unless their feelings get in the way.)And Nick is going to be under such a fine-toothed comb and most of his job options are going to be locked away from him and then some.
>>9712000Of courseDon gave him that as his "reward"
>>9711494he looks like hes enjoying himselfgood work anon
>>9711743I still would love to see Velvet dressed up as Mr. Slave as a companion to this.
>>9712196we need a mr.garrison as well
>>9711494>>9711830>>9711863>>9711912>>9712000>>9712047Hah it's funny how all people say these are lewds when it's obviously that Dewey was just enjoying a big ice cream cone.
The oc is named sharpfury kek
>>9712029>And Nick is going to be under such a fine-toothed comb and most of his job options are going to be locked away from him and then some.True. Though let's not make Nick a manipulated child here, he chose to go buy that shit. Judy didn't help at all, Nick almost died three times due to her (Shot, Apartment Bleedout, Withdrawal) and she's like "teehee im sorry :-9", but she didn't make that decision for him. Also I thought a lot of options he didn't consider already due to his past. Career wise, I have absolutely no idea how either are going work. I get it if you want to write "You two are so good that I want to keep you together, don't mess up again", but they messed up DUE to the fact they were with one another, Nick turned into a wreck due to it, Judy suddenly changed completely, becoming shut down and erratic over it. I really get it if you want to write drama where it's angsty as fuck but this painted both of them as pretty out of control, and putting them together as such a massive bad idea.
>>9712215
>>9712241That's a very... gay way to eat ice cream
>>9712250Whats the rabbit's name?
>>9712272Her name is Judy Hopps. No relation, strangely enough.
>>9712272Cucky leaps
>>9712029The problem of that fic is the contrived reason (or, rather, lack thereof) why Judy refused to communicate with Nick and explain anything until it was too late. It's just giving the character an idiot ball to force drama. Nick is no better, but at least his side is somewhat understandable.
>>9712287This wouldn't even be that rare if there were so many bunnies.
>>9712272poody plops
>>9712263>I really get it if you want to write drama where it's angsty as fuck but this painted both of them as pretty out of control, and putting them together as such a massive bad idea.For some reason, this reminds me of a fic where Nick and Judy were dancing around their relationship, while also going through therapy. In the end, the therapist came to the conclusion that they were too reliant on each other and suggested that they needed to find time away from each other; not completely, but separate each other so they aren't 24/7 around each other, so they can have a healthier relationship. Nick had some hang ups, they dated other people for a while, and eventually got back together and married. I think it was "Skinny Love" or something like that?
>>9712271Well some perfer to have it whle in their mout. Some perer to have it all over the face.And then there are those who bite the ice cream with the cone off, and I can tell you that this is a very messy and unpleasent way.
>>9712272Wreck-it Ralph
>>9712272Harald Hudini the master of illuions.
>>9712272Prego McFleshlight
>>9710197>>9710219>>9710221Crying themselves to sleep.
>>9712215source?
>>9712342I also felt the apology and everything was too... I don't know, flat? I mean if you go by the movie, it would be equal to it and be fine. But Judy didn't screw up a bit, not a good amount, not a lot. Nick was shot almost dead and she chose to run away, no matter the reasons, no matter how she felt, no matter the shame or the anger or whatever, there really isn't a situation that is any more fucked up than that. I honestly feel the author should have made Nick a lot more angry or uncaring and Judy a lot more desperate or regretful, maybe even autodestructive since from what we seen she was just "yeah time to do my rounds at tundratown now" while Nick was an oil train on fire. No, saying she was a wreck hiding home and staying that isn't going to make me feel any sympathy for her. Right now it feels a bit like "yeah! i got the girl! fuck, that was hard", and doesn't make me feel what I was expected from the whole thing. I liked it, obviously, else I wouldn't have read everything. I'm glad the possibility of a buck was introduced even if to have shot down quickly, I really felt a lot of answers Judy owed Nick weren't given. Sure you can say "I did everything because I felt bad", but she was way too fucking shitty, really felt lackluster, and Judy doesn't seem that desperate to make it up to him, either. Sure forgive and forget, just feel like Judy could shit on Nick, hurt him, abandon him and leave him to almost die, show up a day and kiss him and he'd be fine with all that because "She loves me!".
>>9712272Trudy "swallow first ask question later" loops
>>9712342It really could have been handled a lot better than it was. Frankly, I expected the reason she couldn't talk to him is that she wasn't there in the apartment, but was undercover. That would have dovetailed nicely with Nick's later run-in, and would actually be in character for her to hide, but instead it was "Abloo. No talk = Drama"
>>9711830Well, I saw it requested a lot, so I thought that maybe I will make some people happy drawing this>>9712241...Yes, obviously
>>9712263I meant that it started with Judy pretty much shutting down which caused everything to spiral out of control. I ain't saying that she's to blame for him trying to bye that shit, that's on him. Without a doubt.I do agree that Nick was pretty damn emotive and loud about everything, but I would give him the benefit of the doubt due to everything happening. He felt betrayed and abandoned by someone he NEVER thought would hurt him again. He decided to throw his mantra away and she her how terrible she hurt him.And I would also argue that Judy's Changing/shutting down does make some sense, (But I will admit the author went to the logical extreme of it.) We did see Judy still trying to fix her mistake's in the movie. But when she finally realized that she can't/ was being Idolized for her actions? She gave up and ran away. Also she did say that she wanted to jump Nick's bones if she even saw him and she fully believed he would have none of it. Just think about how terrible that would go down, if Nick really didn't care about her like she wanted. Of course she wouldn't do anything to harm him, and she wouldn't be able to tell him the truth, since that would (in her mind/eyes) go over terribly. And then when she fully believed that she broke the friendship that she had with Nick? She ran away and gave up, assumed and thought nothing would change.I like to say that it's a 1 to 1 deal.I think the only way she could ever make it up to him, is constantly push/help him, even if Nick thinks it's ok to not help him.>>9712361Yup. The name was "The Strides of Skinny Love" I loved the start of it along with the buildup but the ending when they separated was a huge "Wait what!? When did that happen!?" But it made sense in the end.The author did some other really nice Zootopia stuff, but they seemed to have given up on Zootopia even though more stuff was planned/worked on. And now they are doing fic's on Voltron.... Rip a rather good author.
inquryDo you guys think a mongoose in zootopia would have regular round pupils or sheep like rectangle pupils?
>>9710646just fuck already
>>9710840>Which Packstreet Boy is Gay
>>9712746Meh
>>9711202who dis
>>9712551>she was way too fucking shittyWhat got me was the scene where Nick sneaked out of hospital just to see her, and she shoved him out of her apartment and called the police. Like, how do you ever defend or apologize for that? That's not a "shocked" reaction, it's bunch of bullshit.
>>9712714I had no idea this was a thing.Now that I'm informed, it's a tough call.
>>9712820Alright, pack it up, it's all over.
>>9712714>>9712874imo, the only reason the sheep had rectangle eyes is because they were the villains and had to appear impersonal. Round eyes for the mongoose.
>>9712702>And I would also argue that Judy's Changing/shutting down does make some sense, (But I will admit the author went to the logical extreme of it.) We did see Judy still trying to fix her mistake's in the movie. But when she finally realized that she can't/ was being Idolized for her actions? She gave up and ran away.It does make sense, that wasn't what I'm arguing. What I'm arguing is that she isn't reliable career wise, especially when he's involved. Maybe even if he isn't involved, her nature on the fic makes her someone really fucked up. >Also she did say that she wanted to jump Nick's bones if she even saw him and she fully believed he would have none of it. Just think about how terrible that would go down, if Nick really didn't care about her like she wanted. Of course she wouldn't do anything to harm him, and she wouldn't be able to tell him the truth, since that would (in her mind/eyes) go over terribly. And then when she fully believed that she broke the friendship that she had with Nick? She ran away and gave up, assumed and thought nothing would change.I agree, I'm not saying she had no reason to behave the way she did or it wasn't true to her movie self, I just mean in universe she's way too volatile there.Also that justification makes the situation even worse. Judy didn't go to support Nick after he almost died because she was thinking that he might not be interested in her romantically, basically. People would jump with an axe if it was swapped, Judy get shot, almost die and Nick is worried to go because she might not want to smooch him and he really needs bun smooches.
what drawlike i won't deliver right now because my hands hurt from manual labour today, but give me idea to work on
>>9712914But...sheep have rectangle eyes irl.
>>9712914It is, Bellwether didn't have them.
>>9712945And they didn't include it when it suited them, like Bellwether.
>>9712937Pandora and Remmy having a chat.
>>9712929>People would jump with an axe if it was swapped, Judy get shot, almost die and Nick is worried to go because she might not want to smooch him and he really needs bun smooches.Yeah, that is why we have so many stories where Nick gets cucked and Judy just has to cry a bit and everything is fine for her.
>>9712960I guess they wanted the ones with more screen time to look more normal. Maybe it would've spooked the kids or sth.
>>9712937Nick poking Judy's cheek with his dick while she's trying to do paperwork.
>>9712937Drunken Pack Street shenanigans
test
>>9712937Roll a zoosona and draw your zoosona
Reminder that Partners now has a sequel: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12516580/1/Incidental-Matters
>>9712857That's one thing the fandom is pissing me off with lately, Judy quote that "We always make mistakes" and emotional situations justifying people acting like complete shitstains actions that later are forgiven like they were nothing.
>>9712960>>9712874>>9712914Yeah, I guess you are right.Thanks!
>>9713079fuck it, haven't done it properly yet, why not
Is ztarchive.com down?
>>9713079>tfw rolled an otterAt least I could get me qt3.14 otter waifu
>>9713262yup
>>9713196>that later are forgiven like they were nothing.Isn't that kinda the whole point of forgiveness?
>>9713274otters are great
>>9713079Rolled a Guanaco. I've no idea what Guanaco are other than they look kinda like llamas.
Hello everyone!Greentext theater will be going on tonight! Woo!I'll try and start everything up around 7pm.Don't worry if you miss it: I've been experimenting and have figured out how to record correctly!Post some of your greentexts that you would like read tonight!I'm off to the gym! Take care, be well, and see you tonight!
>>9713338They seem to be related.
>>9713316That doesn't erase consequences.
>>9712929Oh shit, that's right. Really that makes her look even worse. Well. I think after everything is said and done. The only way this can ever work out is this:Judy works tirelessly to do everything in her power to support Nick, even if he doesn't want/think she needs to.She seeks a shrink or department psychiatrist to try and get her to understand that what she did is super fucking bad, and needs ways for her mind to not self-destruct. And trying to understand what's wrong with her.They also need some kind of relationship counselor to help them out since it has been shown they can't communicate until it's practically too late.And I don't even know what else when it comes to her.
>>9713079rolling for job
>>9713338Natural predators include cougars, jaguars, and *foxes*.How the fuck do foxes hunt Guacanos? they're 2-300 pounds and can run 50+ mph.Am I misunderstanding the size of foxes?
>>9713385ah, those must be the Giant Mountain Foxes. Those can be a real pain, honestly. Like dogs, but sneaky.
>>9712746Better Wolter than Remmy honestly
>>9713316Key word is like nothing. In the movie Judy didn't come to Nick and said "Forgive me and let's solve this case", she didn't try to get Nick to forgive her, she wanted to help and she apologized showing that she learned she fucked up. That rarely happens in fics. I can understand Judy doing something horrible, but if you're going to go with "she apologizes and Nick and her cuddle" feels undeserved. Nick can forgive her, doesn't mean he has to continue like nothing happened.
>>9713338VisiTi is a guanaco>>9713352I think making you read all of my series Wild species of ZTG or big greens like What anon would do is maybe asking too much, so I will submit this simple one
This stoat is 200% cooler than you.Try not to be too jealous.
>>9713352But still I'm gonna post some (4-5) since I'm going to sleep in a bit.I hope the thread doesn't mind.Choose whatever you want>>9713274>Another tubedudeTell me everything, I need to add you to the list>>9713476Lies
>>9713511
>>9713521This is the first one of the series
>>9713541
>>9713556
>>9713565And, for the last three, my biggest one and a couple of my favourite among my works
>>9713600
>>9713608Last one.Sorry for the spam
>>9713367Yeah, at least that would make Judy a bit less out of control.>Oh shit, that's right. Really that makes her look even worse. That's one thing I feel a lot of writers don't realize. So many times Judy is made to be a psychopath, a manipulator, someone who yearns for the attention of males/everyone and whatnot. When I left the movie all I had gotten for her is that she was trying hard to be good and could make mistakes due to inexperience or not seeing the whole picture, which is something Nick was going to help her with from the movie onwards. RIP bun waifu, I need to rewatch the movie on trashy streams to remember how she actually was.
>>9713079fucking bonzalooks like my zoosona is a shitcunt
So how did you make the world a better place today, anon?
>>9713797I gave money to stores that I like, thus supporting not only the jobs of the people behind the counter, but the jobs of everyone in the supply chain, from the farmers who grew the food, the truckers who shipped it, the logistics who tracked it, and the chefs who prepared it.
>>9713797As parish council member I helped the parish today.
>>9713797Encouraged Nick to maintain family values by pushing for an incestuous relationship with his mother. And spurred free market growth by buying coffee from a small independent chain. It's the little things that make a difference Judy.
Green Text Theatre; The Red Rabbit.>Nick and Judy have been married for a couple of years now, they live in a small house, and are well established at the ZPD.>As life had become cozy, Judy's natural instincts were starting to come to the fore.>One night while lying in bed feeling the afterglow, Judy lay her head on Nick's chest, her claws lightly running through the fur around his ribs.>"Nick", she says, "You know we've talked about family and adoption and stuff?">"Hmmm," he replied absently, his claws scratching between her ears.>"And we talked about getting a young fox and two or three young rabbits?">"Hmmm," repeated Nick as if not paying attention.>"Well," continued Judy, "you know about how my maternal instincts are really starting to overwhelm me and…">Nick sighed, "Yes Judy, I know, we discussed using IVF, and I'm totally in support of you running a natural pregnancy. You know I love you.">Nick wrapped both arms around her and kissed the top of her head.>"Well," started Judy, Nick's eyes opening with suspicion, "Yesterday while on foot patrol, I stopped this guy who was jay walking outside the university. I gave him a warning but then we had a bit of a chat. Seems he's an exchange engineering student from the >Great Isles…">"And…" prompted Nick who, knowing Judy, starting to feel a little apprehensive.>Judy looked up into his eyes, "Nick, he was an Irish Rex rabbit!" she almost giggled, "He's bright red!">"Oh I get it, you want him to be a donor, so that maybe some of the kits will be red and look like me," replied Nick, "that's actually a >good idea Carrots.">They looked into one another's eyes, Judy's brow starting to droop.>Nick noticed.>"Judy, I don't like that look you're starting to get, what are you thinking?">"Well, I was just thinking, what with all the organising, and hospital costs, all the interviews and stuff…">"Carrots…?"
>>9713797Anso-fucking-lutly not in any god-danged-way.I have done nothing productive beside finishing latest chapte r>>9709738And now it 1AM in the morning, so it's time for this anon to go to sleep!Night /zgt/
>>9713797I ruined a friend's good mood when he needed to lean on me, so I've vowed to just shut the fuck up and not inflict myself on anyone for a month or two.
>>9713797By omission.
>>9713632In the movie, Judy is a genuinely good person. Sure, she has her prejudices, but people seem to forget that one, she made a point throughout the movie to not be (and while the over-corrections made her look worse, they were still conscious corrections), and two, her fear of foxes was decidedly LEARNED, not just whipped up out of outlandish oversimplifications and misguided parental advice. The only thing you could really fault her for doing during the movie which is unquestionably bad was the shit she spewed at the press conference. I'd personally give her the fox spray, because she's a tiny rabbit in a city of huge mammals, and the spray doesn't just work on foxes. The fact that she so obviously profiled Nick outside the ice cream parlor is a bit of a grey area, because she'd obviously think of Gideon (the only fox she knew personally) after seeing her first fox in the city. She'd at least be curious at the bare minimum. Getting the fox spray unclipped and ready without even knowing the basics of the situation is pretty shitty, though. I guess that's two things to fault her for. Still, she tried to make up for it. Being a hypocrite is better than just being shitty to the core.
Green Text Theatre; The Red Rabbit p2>"Oh c'mon Nick, I'll keep it discreet, we'll find a little motel across town, no one will notice and…">"OK, I see where you're going with this and," nick paused for effect, Judy shrinking away, " and I agree.">Judy's eyes opened like she'd been stuck with a pin.>"BUT," continued Nick, "we're going to do it here, and I'm going to be present.">Judy just lay there perplexed, she'd half expected Nick to totally forbid such a venture, or at least start a long argument against it.>But he'd accepted it, although the conditions now started to worry in her a bit.>"So, you don't mind but what, you want to watch?" stammered Judy, "that's a little kinky even for you isn't it Nick?">"Ah, Judy Judy Judy," began Nick, "with those extra eight years or so up my sleeve, I've been around a bit, and know a thing or two that you probably just as well not know. So, not only am I going to be present, I'm thinking I might even join in.">"You're not planning on doing anything to or with HIM are you?" Judy stammered, looking at Nick gobsmacked.>Nick pulled a disdained face, "C'mon Carrots, you know I don't swing that way.">Judy ventured a nervous smile, "Well I'm relieved to hear that, but-">Nick sat up and pulled Judy into his lap, "You see Judy, this possibility has crossed my mind as well and, while I doubt a buck rabbit could ever replace me, I did worry somewhat about you maybe getting a little emotionally involved, if you know what I mean.">"Nick I -">Nick shushed her and continued, "OK, this is how I think it should go. You contact him and see if he's up for it, then we can pay for him to go and have a medical checkup. We invite him over one night for dinner, something simple, don't want to get him all bloated and stuff, then we can chat about his family or whatever.">"So how do we end up in the bedroom?" asked Judy.
>>9713917>>9714066pls no more cucki cant take it
Green Text Theatre; The Red Rabbit p3>"Well first off, don't tell him anything about me being there," stated Nick, "I'll calm that all over when he gets here. When the time comes, I'll probably suggest it. Now when he realises that I'm going to be in there too, I expect that to slow him down a bit, so we might need to put on a bit of a show eh?">"Now I KNOW you watched too many of those video's I found in your old apartment." moaned Judy.>"Hear me out Carrots, I've looked at this from a few angles, and I think I can see how it will run. We all go into the bedroom, we go ahead and take our clothes off near your dresser, and you can suggest he gets his gear off near that corner chair. If he's nervous, maybe you can help him?">"That might be fun, he did look pretty fit." smirked Judy.>"Uh uh ah Judy, now here's where I want to lay down some ground rules," begins nick with an authoritative voice, "first off, I don't want you to handle his body in any way.">"But-">"I don't want you to kiss him, or visa-versa.">"Sounds a bit like the green eyed monster Nick," accused Judy.>"Hey Fluff, I AM the red monster, and my eyes ARE green," he growled jokingly, running his snout around one of her ears, "Anyway, if he's a bit slow getting up, I could do what I'm feeling a bit tempted to now, and eat you!">Judy slipped a paw behind her back and ran it down Nick's belly, and beyond.>"Um, where was I?" Nick huffed, "So, when he looks ready, I want you to roll over onto all fours and let nature take it's course. You can let him reach around if you or he wants."
Green Text Theatre; The Red Rabbit p4>"You make it sound too clinical Scruff, and why do you want me on all fours?" quizzed Judy.>"Well, once we're all aroused, I don't want you to make eye contact with him, only with me, it's that emotional thing I was talking about.">"And then," stated Nick with flurry, "I might kneel in front of you and let you have me.">"You're just too kinky Nick, you want to double end me?!">"Hey, it's called a 'Spit-Roast' sweetheart!">Judy punched him in the arm.Oh bugger, I just wrote a cuck, I think?RT Pilon.
>>9713797Well, I didn't bother anyone with my presence. I hope.Goodnight /ztg/
>>9714175Anon, this doesn't make the world a better place.
>>>/trash/furremember to use one of these rather than making a new thread
>>9712937Nick & Honey in the ZPD Academy please!!!
>>9713797Why the fuck would I want to make the world a better place? If I'd want to do that I'd kill myself.
>>9714225Sleep well, moongose.
>>9714258Reminder that it ain't gonna suck itself.
>>9714225You underestimate how much your drawings can mean to us. Take care tuber.
>>9713917>"maternal instincts are really starting to overwhelm me"And I suppose you're saying this as in Judy would not be capable of treating adopted kits as her own? I'm not sure how else to take it, honestly, and by extension aren't you saying Nick either doesn't have paternal instincts, or that he may be incapable of loving these "adopted" kits as his own?>"Well, I was just thinking, what with all the organizing, and hospital costs, all the interviews and stuff…"The reason this sort of thing NEEDS all the organization, hospitals, and other related costs, is because doing it by the book means the father can't fucking sue in court for visitation after he decides he wants a part in his own damn children's lives. Also, so the mother can't sue him for child support after she decides she wants the money.I know this is just a dumb green, but fuck me. Do not.
reposting these because I'm still completely smitten with themFor anybody wondering, this and the following are pieces of fanart by Chumpy for http://archiveofourown.org/works/8154437/chapters/18687605also I'm like 55 hits away from 10k holy shit I guess I'll brag a little
>>9714292its just cuck for the sake of cuckolding. it's not meant to be logical or make sense or send a message. it's like trying to make a serious story of wildecest, inb4 regret
>>9714312
>>9714319>>9714312>humans in ZootopiaChumpy art won't save you.
>>9714331>how to spot the newfriend
>>9714225Goodnight!
>>9714252>>9714292I'm reasonable happy with the simple (Hollywood) view of the world, that's why I watched the movie.
>>9714331I take it you don't know that this is pretty much the best human story known? and it subverts damn near every single shitty trope known with Human Zootopia story's?And it's not humans in Zoot. It's Judy/Nick in/on Earth.Read it, NOW.It's a good read.
>>9713797I drew trash all day and it gets worse the more I draw.
>>9714393While I'm sure it's written well, and has phenomenal characterization, I have absolutely zero interest reading about humans even tangentially referred to in out out of Zootopia.Thank you.
>>9710076I disagree but of course I would, I'm the authorhell, I think the reactions of this thread alone any time a pred steps over the line is more than proof enough they're not coming off as blamelessbut I mean yeah you're free to have your own opinion even if it's WRONG WRONG WRONG
>>9714454Then you're missing out.Toga's fic is one of the greats. I'm damn shocked Chumpy did are for it but damn me if there ain't a fic that deserves it than AWAHO.
>>9714490>I think the reactions of this thread alone any time a pred steps over the line is more than proof enough they're not coming off as blamelessMaybe here, but not in the story. That's the whole thing. But yes, it's not what the reader's interpretation is, it's what the author wanted it to be. B**ba shown us that, and I'm glad you're listening.
>>9714490REMMY DID NOTHING WRONGHE A GOOD BOY
>>9714537Remmy dindu nuffin
>>9714393>humans >ZootopiaN-O.and chumpy is a faggot shitstirrer
>>9714331>>9714560Summer has officially started.
>>9714537Sorry but as decreed by the Council of Good Boys, Remmy is... no good boy.
>>9714560>>9714454The story was ok, and at the expense of making toga feel bad, I thought it was a little sterile. Our human didn't interact with Judy enough
>>9714560Dude, chill.
>>9714312>>9714319You aught to update chapter 12 with the new art. Either that or make a chapter 13 where you put all the fan art.
>>9714592HE TURNIN HIS LIFE AROUNDHE GOIN TO CHURCH
>>9713352How about this one?
>>9714592
>>9714620Perhaps in a few years down the line he can reapply but for now, the council has spoken.
>>9714592The only thing Ozzy's done is get Remmy in trouble and put a strain on the whole pack. I don't see how he can be considered a good boy.
>>9714637...why does that expression make me think this is the opening minute or two of a gay gangbang porno?
>>9714454Well, usually I give a last look to the threads to see if I missed a reply or something, let me reply to this one. I absolutely loathe the human in Zootopia type of fic, because it undermine the whole world upon which Zootopia is created. But this is different. First, it is Judy and Nick only on earth, so viceversa. Second, it is SCP like, a curious but interesting take. What I am saying is that this is probably the only reasonable way to make humans and Zootopians meet. Try it. If you loathe it and feel like it ruined your day and everything is terrible because of it I assume full responsibility
>>9713917>>9714066>>9714142>>9714175
>>9714611The latter seems like a sneaky, cheap way to get it back on the frontpage after all this time. I should probably put all the fanart in chapter 12, though.>>9714597I can't speak for other authors but please don't ever withhold a criticism for fear of making me feel bad. I listen to everyone and try to see my stories from their perspectives. You can't please everybody all of the time, etc, etc.
>>9714536>Maybe here, but not in the storyAgain, disagreeThe narrative is basically framed through Remmy and his gradually increasing awareness and forgiveness isn't the same as framing people as blameless. I don't even know if we're reading the same story at this point because he is CONSTANTLY griping about and pointing out all the unfair and hostile shit his neighbors doThey often get support from each other, like when one character makes excuses for another, but of course they'd take their own side -- that's not the same as the narrative saying they're blamelessThe constant arguments in this thread about "Remmy did nothing wrong, why is [character] being such a bitch" are proof that the predator characters are flawed, and sure, you can argue "oh well that's just reader interpretation", but it's not like those interpretations comes from thin air, you know what I'm saying?I don't know any poster anti-Remmy enough to say that none of his neighbors have ever been at least partially at fault
>>9714319Jensen a cute!CUTE!!!
>>9714671I feel like I'm going to have to repeat myself.Whether it is humans in Zootopia or Zootopians on Earth, I do not care. I have no interest in reading anything with humans in or out of Zootopia, full stop. I'm sure it's a nice story. I'm just not your audience.
>>9714723
>>9714689Because everyone is so used to stories being told in the 3rd person with impartial narration, it's hard to grasp that one being told in the 1st person has could have a skewed narration.
>>9714723Alright, I guess thanks for voicing your valuable opinion.Just wondering, what were you hoping to get out of posting "I won't read your story"? I can't think of a basic bitchier thing to post.
>>9714723I'm not the author. But sure, read what you want, obviously. But do not dismiss as a terrible work simply basing on the premise
>>9714743This, people in these threads are pretty stupid desu.
>>9714743So you're saying people overcompensate in the other direction? Remmy comes off so harsh against his neighbors that readers intentionally read the other way, that he's overreacting to everything?
>>9714723>>9714746OH MY GOD JUST FUCK ALREADY
>>9714746>>9714757Anons he's trying to stir some shit.Just ignore him.
>>9714653>The only thing Ozzy's done is get Remmy in troubleOne of the first things Ozzy does is the exact opposite of that.
>>9714762I've said it before about Pack Street - a lot of the time people's first instinct when there's a conflict is to decide who's in the right and who's in the wrong, when a lot of the time it's more complicated than that. Remmy's stubborn, socially inflexible, and leaps to conclusions, but his neighbours interpret everything he does through their own lens and don't stop to think whether their banter and hijinks would come off as cruel or intimidating to someone from a different culture. Both parties have a lot to learn about each other, but can overcome their differences to be one big happy family.And then they all fuck.
>>9714762No, I'm saying people are always assuming that everything that happens in the story is happening exactly as it is presented...when the story is being told from Remmy's viewpoint so we're seeing things as HE sees them. Not necessarily how they're actually happening.
>>9714746>>9714757This post >>9714331 wasn't me. I was just defending the idea that someone can have no interest in a story regardless of quality. Like I said, I'm sure it's written well.>>9714769I am not.
>>9710076What i've taken away from the story is that neither group has a good outward appearance.The prey characters tend to seem jumpy and react to uncomfortable things with aggressive displays while the predators have a very strong ingroup mentality and care/understand very little about how impenetrable their social codes are to the outgroup.
>>9714783Yeah, he saved Remmy from a bear at his party. A party that Remmy wouldn't have even been at if Ozzy had just kept it a little quieter.
>>9714689I may be rusty, but IIRC any situation where Remmy was get shat on was justified because of him doing something mean, insensitive and whatnot to, once again, turn his neighbors into the victim or at least try to paint him as the bad guy. The preachyness with pack and herd differences is still something I expect you to address on the second season (if it ever comes), I get narrative and interpretation, could be just Remmy going about it under his own experiences with the herd being bad towards him, but in sheepfacts he tried to at least be pretty impartial to it and it seemed to be "herds are prey groups and prey groups are evil, packs are pred and they are good people so they are good". Even the 'bad' parts of the pack turned out to be just memeing whereas Remmy was pretty clearly showing that the bad parts of the herd were very real.
>>9714769>trying to stir some shitJesus fuck Grow the fuck up
>>9714769Don't assume that. He made a mistake, got corrected, then simply said he was uninterested.I'm not offended. I understand on some level, actually. Someone could make a fic of the all the awful, 'mature' topics in the world and it could be the most expertly, emotionally, perfectly written piece of literature on the planet, but I still wouldn't read it.Different strokes for different folks.
>>9714843No.
>>9714766I would not ship those two Anon, they seem like they would just passively or aggressively snap at each other till one of them finally hits the breaks and leaves. Just not a great couple, IMO.
>>9714822I'm saying that going up to someone and telling them "I refuse to read your work on principle because it does something that I personally find distasteful and unbecoming of the media which I prefer to enjoy, that will be all, good day to you sir" is a basic bitch thing.
>>9714859Then I will keep my opinion to myself.
How many fags does it take to keep a fire burning?All of them
>>9714874Thank you for doing your part.
>>9714886Rude.
>>9714925Hey faggo. Kill yourselfWho would win a race across the country between 2 fags and 2 lesbians?The lesbians. The fags would still be at home packing their shit...
>>9714835>I may be rusty, but IIRC any situation where Remmy was get shat on was justified because of him doing something mean, insensitive and whatnot to, once again, turn his neighbors into the victim or at least try to paint him as the bad guy.I don't agree at allIn Fall Back, the whole argument was a clusterfuck and many actors involved behaved poorly, Remmy wasn't at fault and it only became his problem when he stepped way over the line at the end out of frustration (which the others had contributed to)If I had to venture a guess I think you're conflating narrative approval with character agreementOf course Remmy's neighbors are going to take each others sides rather than his -- they see him as the outsider and he's largely treated as such, and there's a power dynamic, social hierarchy, and basic camaraderie at work here, so obviously they're not going to be constantly falling over themselves to apologize for each other and praise Remmy with adulationsthey protect their own, but characters agreeing with other characters isn't the same as objectively saying they're all perfect and correctand even then don't act like these are some clear cut "right VS wrong" encounters -- like >>9714811 said, real conflicts are messy and in Pack there's rarely anyone who comes out of anything blamelessagain I think the reader reaction is more than proof enough that they have dirt on their paws too>Even the 'bad' parts of the pack turned out to be just memeing what the heck are you even talking aboutagain, of course the pack is going to defend itself and try to deflect criticismsremmy gradually seeing things with a more open and empathetic mind is not the same as capitulation
>>9714835Herds are good. They're just not good for Remmy.
>>9714956post new draws or you AREN'T weaver
>>9715030Why are we watching Doug try to look up pred porn?
>>9714956>what the heck are you even talking about>again, of course the pack is going to defend itself and try to deflect criticisms>remmy gradually seeing things with a more open and empathetic mind is not the same as capitulationThe whole bullshit of omega place in the pack.Also I'm not talking about what they said about the pack or how it was better or anything, I'm talking about the fact Remmy description of what herd were was that there were also an 'alpha' figure that called the shots and anyone could be shunned and cast out because of being different, in which he shown pretty clearly in it that he was uncomfortable with what was being said. Meanwhile, we get Al accepting Remmy as part of the pack despite him being a prey that fucked up repetitively previously, that he tries to get everyone's problem solved, that the beta tries to solve problems too, that everyone in it look after one another (BRE Marty, Ozzy), even the power dynamic was put down as simply a display of dominance with Al and Betty and the Omega not being shunned by the rest. Maybe those things are not every pack, but then it isn't something of Packs or Prey culture in general, but just Al's pack.
>>9715161So... basically you're arguing that packs, which are smaller and need inclusion more, are portrayed as more accepting out misfits and outliers, while herds, which are much larger and harder to manage, are less forgiving of deviants.
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>>9715205I'm just arguing that while there were positive and negative things shown of predators, I have a hard time remembering something positive out of prey in pack street. I can understand narrator and whatnot but if not one thing is shown as positive of prey you might come off extremely biased.
>>9715244>I have a hard time remembering something positive out of prey in pack streetHis name's Remmy.
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>>9715244All we know about prey social dynamics in Pack Street come from a few oblique references Remmy's made. You're pulling an awful lot out of your arse to fill in the gaps.
>>9715244I think you're missing the point of context. Prey don't need defending in this story. They're already sitting pretty before the story begins. Preds are the one Remmy goes in with a hostile attitude towards, revelatory and plot-relevant insight is obviously going to be based on changing that perception because that's kind of the whole point of the story, changing perception. Remmy doesn't need a bunch of revelations about how prey actually have good features because he already thinks prey are the bee's knees and they don't need to be built up.
>>9714674Well thanks anon, I had just finished joining mine together in photoshop, but yours looks better!I did look at the app(?) on pastebin, but I'm afraid I'm a computer luddite, and wouldn't know where to start.[i]You young people and your technology![/i]
>>9714953Very rude.
there are essentially two prey characters in PS. one of them is an ass and the other is neutral. this does not provide any significant information about the average quality of prey in this narrative in general.
>>9713352Will you post a link?
>>9708416>mentally ill teenage girlsYou know, I honest to God believed that only teenage girls or something would write that. Then I went to dig deeper in some of the shit fic writers and found out they actually were 25~32 guys.
>>9715401Except all the bystanders and minor interactions who were assholes.
>>9713079Rolled a skunk and got a free choice in Sahara Square, so I figured he could be some sort of night guard at the Oasis.
Page 10. Time 4 new thread?
>>9715525nowe /ded fandom/ now
>>9715514Thats a sick ass skunk
>>9715401>>9715512The real racists are the readers, who blame all prey for the actions of a few.
>>9715514nice stinky boy
Watching Weaver(?) deal with his detractors is as good as reading his stories.The man has so many layers, the others just float around on top.
>>9715514Cute!
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>>9715555Yeah, he's amazing. I wonder why other writers even try.
>>9715555I know you have a long neck, but please do not fellate yourself openly.
>>9715588I'm not Weaver, dumb hater. :)
>>9713797I stayed in bed.
>>9715442Absolutely I will!
>>9715030source?
>>9715638Where is A-Sig or Prof Fox?! Their bun has pulled another runner on them!
>>9714312I am on chapter 8, and so far I like it, mostly, but somethings stretch my suspension of disbelief too far. For example, classified facilities don't even allow employees to have cell phones on their person, so I can't really buy them letting an extraterrestrial have free roam of the facility and internet access, or being allowed to keep their belongings.
evens: drawstreamodds: eat food at watch cartoons>>9713797I tipped my pizza/weedguy the rest of the cash I had on me
>>9716643Odds it is, enjoy your cartoons Nobby
