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Zootopia Thread: This is the ideal male body. you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

Pastebin: pastebin.com/iYDU8g2T
Booru: zoo.booru.org
ZTArchive: ztarchive.com
Desustorage: desuarchive.org/trash
Previous thread: archive.b-stats.org/trash/thread/6448418
Current TT Theme: Fantasy/Mythos (SUBMISSIONS ARE DUE TOMORROW)
More information on TT: derpy.me/trashthematicthursdays
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>>6455773
NO
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Second for rabbits.
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eyy
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FROGSHIRE
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>>6455482
>No prob, but I prefer if you see it complete, when I submit it. Just a read for this one. Maybe I will ask more critique for the next ones.
alright, sounds fair. Just let me know if you need an extra eye on your fic

>Also I really need to finish it.
Indeed you do! Post it sos I cans reads its.

>Thank you clunk. For this I promise I won't lewd the badger for a while.
You're welcome! Of course my man! I appreciate the guidance.
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I want to cum inside of Nicholas Wilde
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>>6455708
There used to be a lot more of a collaborative back and forth. Artists and writers would create blank slate characters or open ended scenarios and everyone would roll with it. That's slowed down now. Inky's still repping that style. Hopefully when the school period ends people will have more time to create stuff in thread, if they haven't moved on afterv their break. Problem is we don't have a lot of ways of bringing people into the threads. Without new people with new ideas, the threads slow.
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if dubs i ban greentexts
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>>6455992
>if greentext, I ban dubs.
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>>6455906
>Not wanting him to cum inside you
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>>6455992
>Anon tried to destroy the greentexts, one of th Great Ways to Create Content.
>But he needed power to do it.
>A power given to a restricted number of individuals: the Banhammer.
>So he tried to use the dark arts of Gets and Memes to carry out his nefarious plan.
>But, among the clouds of trips and quads, the almighty gods of Gets have already decided.
>'The greens let us to dick the Nick and lewd the Jude more.'
>'Also there are too many great series of greens that we want to see the end of and many more are to come.'
>'You will not get dubs.'
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>>6456140
if dubs then everything you said is invalid.
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>>6456140
If dubs, we bully a bun.
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>>6456140
if dubs i ban you
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if dubs i will finish a greentext
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>>6456154
so close, so far

reroll
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gimme o̶b̶l̶i̶g̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶p̶r̶a̶c̶t̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶d̶r̶a̶w̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ a request
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>>6456188
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
THIS ISN'T WHAT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO HAPPEN
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If dubs nothing happens, but Jack will still be here.
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>>6456203
Could you do MT's old hippo? Near the bottom of last thread.
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>>6456203
face in bun buns
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>>6456207
better get to work
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>>6456207
haha, you're a big fat winner
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>>6456188
The gods of Gets want greentexts
>>6456203
Nick, Judy and Finnick in bodyguard suits
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>>6456140
Praise RNG
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>>6456188
>>6456207
Destroyed like Judy's vicelike pussy.

Now get to it.
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>>6456203
Viking Judy abducting Nick
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>>6456203
>>6456228
Here >>6455151
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>>6456250
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>>6456271
Another from the feldé shistorm thread.
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>>6456233
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>>6456317
I wish I was there when it happened, just because it seemed like everyone was miserable and I hate seeing the thread like that...
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>>6456317
So what happened to Felde?
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>>6456379
Someone from the Discord'll have to answer that. She stuck around there for a while. Hell, she might still be there for all I know.
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>>6456401
>bun being bullied
Good fox
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>>6456395
Discord?
from Discord...
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>>6456428
That's a fox and what other animal? Can't place what would be that big.
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>>6456426
But remember to also help the bun when needed
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>>6456458
otter
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>>6456486
Do otters get that large? Seems out of proportion
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>>6456458
>>6456458
looks like a bear
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>>6456503
The body is pretty much just a human, too.
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>>6456505
Cringe/10
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>>6456428
Is that you, OJ? Where have you been?
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>>6456207
>>6456188
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>>6456598
>aardwolf bun
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>>6456598
Too funny, Reply

How you doing, buddy? Enjoying the holidays? Working on a TT submission? I hope you're not killing yourself with work.
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>>6456598
YES

PUNISH ANON IF THEY DON'T DELIVER
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>>6456598
anon better finish that greentext
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>>6456598
Is that bun Dana "Dubs" Dubois?
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>>6456694
Aaaaaa! It is! Holy crap! Reply you're a madman!
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If dubs I get (You)s
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>6456721
No (You)s for you.
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>6456721
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>6456721
One off
I deserve my fate
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>>6456694
Dana doesn't fuck around when dubs are on the line.
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>>6456626
It's been good, holidays were mostly to finish up late projects with some breathing room. A lot of deadlines dates also were moved but one moved from a few days ago to this friday, so i'm not sure if i'll be able to participate on this TT, might just scrap something tomorrow or after unfortunately

>>6456694
Ye!
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>>6456881
I hope you're getting paid fat stacks for what you do.

By the way, Gud says hey and 'please notice me senpai'.
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>>6456926
That goat really wants the okapi
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>>6456978
Well who wouldn't? So adorable...
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>>6456978
>sparkles
Every time
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Give requests, need practice, no lewds pls.
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>>6457033
Desmond watching Molly drinking a cup of coffee, please.
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>>6457033
Judy wearing a scarf
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>>6457033
Judy as a knight in training?
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>>6457033
a manic Nick holding Judy's severed head
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>>6457000
The blessing of trips. This is truth.
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>>6457033
Nick and Judy mistletoe kissing
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>>6457033
this but with Judy
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>>6457033
How about a mouse Thanksgiving feast?
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>>6457033
Finnick, Honey and Clawhauser hanging together
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>>6457087
*hanging out together
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>>6457033
Nick and Judy enjoying a snowy *INSERT ANIMAL PUN VERSION OF CHRISTMAS* morning
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>>6457087

Didn't Byron draw that before?
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>>6455773
normal proportioned nick is terrifying
make him a shortie again
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>>6457087
>hanging together
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So this turned out interesting.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11710933

From what this says, of the people who answered from the threads, most of them don't use the Discord.
People say that there is a big overlap, but it seems like there is still a sizeable contingent of people who only use the thread, or do not use the Discord for talking or sharing content or roleplaying or whatever they do there.
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>>6457191
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>>6457220
wtf now he looks 7
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Look at this public indecency
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>>6457195
I fixed it!
>>6457097
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>>6457216
You didn't post it on discord, though. You missed out on a ton of responders.
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>>6457233
7/10 more like
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>>6457233
And now?
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>>6457243
I didn't post it on the Discord because I wanted to get a tally of the threads, not the Discord. If the people in the Discord didn't answer, its because they didn't see it or they didn't want to put their vote in.
My point is its interesting that more people in the threads responded in the negative. It seems like there's of a 1 to 1 overlap than people say. I thought for a long time I was in the minority for not being in the Discord, but from this very unscientific poll, thats not the case.
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Sooooo movies for friday ?

about 12 hours iirc.
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>>6457285
It seems like there's LESS of a 1 to 1 overlap than people say. Dunno why my phone ate a word.
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>>6457033
Judy on lead guitar.
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>>6457300
Shouldnt it be Thanksgiving themed movies, like Planes, Trains and Automobiles and... well, just that one three times and then Zootopia?
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>>6457282
and now he needs to suck my dick
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>6457285
Ok gr8 thx yes discord ree cool
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>>6457033
The Zootopia cast as Rocky Horror characters.
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>>6457319
you are right but i had to choose between TT or thanks giving.. and i just wanted an excuse for lotr.

i'll get to show Planes, Trains and Automobiles soon
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>>6457321
There, have a gift
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>>6457338
Not that it matters, but I made that poll in response to a troll who was saying that nobody in the threads weren't also in the Discord, and I just wanted to see if that was true. I don't care about the Discord.
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>>6457044
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>>6457300
So, are you gonna start the movies at the normal time or are you gonna start them earlier cause they're so long?
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>>6457404
that i'm still deciding.
probably normal time tho.

nice 404
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So what does one even do with a rolled zoosona once they've rolled it / submitted it to the census?
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>>6457379
FF?
Nice comfy scarf right there
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>>6457437
you draw them choking on dicks.
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>>6457426
alright cool.
and thanks.
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>>6457441
Also sorry if you're not FF I'm terrible with artists and can't differentiate them and I don't know why I try
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Any greentext/pastebin stories with humans in them?
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>>6457379
Thanks this is cute!
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>>6457458
Nope, not FF. Could you post one of his/her drawings?
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>>6457445
And if one can't draw?
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>>6457482
A World All Her Own.
Its in AO3
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>>6457379
I can feel the comf rising
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>>6457507
you start drawing until you git gud, anon.
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>>6457437
You create with them! Draw, write, create stories in Zootopia, maybe for TT! If you are a drawfag they are usually used as some sort of avatar. Or, sadly, this >>6457445
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>>6457300
I don't know if I'll be able to make it, cause it is black.

Might be nice to finally watch those movies, though.
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>>6457507
Write a story, make a song, become an editorfag, basically anything. Its a character/avatar/stepping stone to contributing content.
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I don't want to disturb the mood, but I feel a deep kind of sadness and disappointment towards myself. (sorry if this doesn't fit the topic, I just need to get this sorted out)

>EXECUTING LONG_VENT.EXE

First of I've been here since April. You guys mean a lot to me. To have such a comfy group to talk about Zootopia openly without being judged for it is truly a blessing.
So naturally I wanted to give back to you through drawing things for you (cause that's the only thing I'm kinda good at). But seeing all the great art by people like nobby, Alec, chumpy or Mead, to name a few, gave me this feeling of inferiority. My work wasn't worthy of you. I've used this feeling as fuel to reach my goal of becoming like them. I've spent this summer drawing almost every day, trying to learn the basics and improving on my skill. It felt like the most fulfilling thing I have ever done since my graduation from hs! It felt great honing a productive skill instead of wasting my life in front of video games. I was sure if I kept it up I'd become just how I dreamed of.
But somewhere on the way I got lost. I got into college. And even though I still have a lot of free time I don't feel like drawing or doing anything else for that matter. I'd rather just lie in bed and do nothing all day. I feel like a husk of my former self. I don't know what's wrong with me, but I hate it. I'm tired and sick of this feeling. Have you experienced similar situations? If yes, how do you cope with them?

>LONG_VENT.EXE HAS FINISHED

(If you've read this far I sincerely thank you and apologise for wasting your time. Have a nice day.)
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>>6457540
Hope you can make it anon but don't worry 12 hours is a lot of time, that's totally understandable
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>>6457551
>I'd rather just lie in bed and do nothing all day. I feel like a husk of my former self. I don't know what's wrong with me, but I hate it. I'm tired and sick of this feeling.

Are you me?
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>>6457551
>Have you experienced similar situations?
Every autumn, sometimes more. It seems like a lot of anons are in the same boat right now; the seasonal changes sure don't help.

I've dealt with it enough to know that it does eventually go away. I just try to mitigate the damage it does (or I do) to my life in the mean time.
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>>6457551
Heya buddy,

Its not the first time anyone's gone through something like this, and it won't be the last. That's really great news, because there's an answer!

Motivation and inspiration are the sparks that ignite the fire, but without taking the time and effort to fan the flames, they die down. The bike slows, and then stops, and its always harder to get the pedals moving again.

If you take the time to make it a habit-- and I mean more than just one day, like a week!-- then you can get back to where you were.

Be diligent about it, buddy. Even if its just 30 minutes on the clock every day before you go to bed, it'll become a habit. You'll see yourself improve, you'll come up with new ideas, you'll be less exhausted when you think about starting up.

You can do it, and if you need help doing it, we're here for you.
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>>6457551
The solutions I have found: watch Zootopia (seriously, the movie is a charge of positive energy), watch other drawfags stream (it gets you that itch), do TT (you see it as something you HAVE to do, so you draw), generally look at the threads.
Take a deep breath, use all the forces at my disposal to take pencil and paper, thread in one window, charged and energetic music in the other and reference in another and start.
Also remember to stay well-hydrated, sometimes it really sucks the life out of you.
Coffee and chocolate are good stimulants.
Make drawing a routine. You broke it with college, you need to recreate it.
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>>6457551
Hey, man, things'll turn out ok. I know how it feels. I can't stand myself and how I feel probably 80% of the time.

Sadly, I can't really give you any good advice. I'm lucky enough to have a close group of friends who can pull me out of a slump.

All I can really say, as cheesy as it sounds, is keep your chin up. Things get better.

Besides, if things really don't, you always have us. /ztg/ is the best hugbox.
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>>6457500
This is FinnickFag (FF). You have a style in someway similar to her. I'm sure I have seen your style somewhere but I don't know where. Do you have a name, mysterious drawfag?
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>>6457216
I just don't care to vote. all this asinine argument is just a waste of time
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>>6457551
Weird trick that works for me is to smile when I work.
I feel stupid for the first few minutes, but if I keep smiling, I'm happy while I write.
Sorry if that sounds dumb. It just works for me. Whenever I work I'm happy then.
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>>6457441
Nah, the eyes are different.
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>>6457733
Wasn't trying to start any arguments, really just wanted to see if what an anon was saying was true.
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>>6457764
I know, anon, neither am I. Just perhaps a lot of people don't care to vote either.
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>>6457551
>I feel like a husk of my former self.
Get mad, anon! Get MAD!
You're better than this, god damn it! You wanted to be like nobby and Alec and chumpy and Mead, not sit around all day in bed!
So get out of bed and start drawing! Draw Judy getting back up after being told she'd never be a cop! Draw Nick walking straight back into the Ranger Scout meeting and kicking each one of those punk kids' asses! Draw your old Zoosona accomplishing something fucking awesome!
Put on some music, get hyped, sit your ass down and draw!
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>>6457050
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>>6457886
Goddamn I love mideival Zootopia.
Also
SOULS! WHEN THE FUCK IS YOUR FIC UPDATING???
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>>6457886
That tail isn't even fluffy! Judy that is a totally inaccurate representation of a fox!

I really love this kinda stuff, thank you very much pretty line drawer!
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Post music that gets you pumped the fuck up when you wanna be creative and get shit done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CpWOo7ODzg
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>>6457886
Very nice! Tells us your name mysterious drawer!
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>>6457928
Waga.
Don't know if I should sign every drawing.
Should I?
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>OP
>Those proportions

ghastly
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>>6457916
Eurobeat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhQIXO0vUOM
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>>6457916
With this I never fail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f59ZtVeTr0
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>>6457916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-c7kXpRVIQ
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Gideon Appreciation Station
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>>6457916
>Not posting this
Get on my fucking level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6rP-YP4c5I
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>>6457582
>>6457630
>>6457641
>>6457647
>>6457654
>>6457737
>>6457816
Ah shit, this got more attention than I intended. But fuck it, you're all right! This is probably just a phase and with persistence it can be overcome. Thank you for the encouragement, everyone!
I'm also glad I finally got over spilling the beans, being super shy and all that. Again, I sincerely thank each of your responses, they fill me with hope that I can find what I've lost.
See you on TT!
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>>6457943
New drawfriend? How did you find these threads?
If you want sign it, it is just that we need to see some drawings from someone new in order to recognize by style
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>>6457916
N-no bully me, plz...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqvYGzdtg4o
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>>6457943
Oh hey, it would be nice if you could because it makes it easier to find your art and just organise ones collection
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>>6458011
Waga is oldie, they drew the hilarious sea slug Judy.
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>>6457943
How long have you been in the threads, buddy?

Planning on doing awesome stuff? Got ideas for projects of your own? Looking to learn how to hone your craft? Just wanna comf it up with foxes and bunnies?
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>>6457916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld89ANs7OCQ
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>>6458022
I LOVE JUDIBRANCH!

I LOVE HER SO MUCH!
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>>6458022
Oh my, now I remember! I loved Judybranch! Welcome back Waga!
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>>6457999
Trips for a good omen!

See you then, buddy!
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>>6455773
Foxe
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>>6458118
Whatever happened to this drawfag?
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>>6458129
Did they ever post here?

Now I suppose they are busy with Sunderance.
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>>6457943
>Don't know if I should sign every drawing.
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>>6457945
nude version when
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>>6455941
Cont. when?
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>>6457551

First thing, big ups to you for being willing to post about your troubles in the thread. Nothing wrong with saying that shit's not always rainbows and sunshine.

First off, college. It's a bastard, and you're probably going into pre-finals cram mode right now, so it's perfectly natural to feel like you're being pulled in 20 directions at once, cause you ARE! Prioritize your tasks, make sure that you're getting at least some sleep and eating decent food, and try to get a little exercise in, even if it's like 20/30 minutes of walking.

Honestly, it may be that you're going to have to slip a little on /ztg/ drawing, there's only so much time each day, and you've got some pretty big commitments to cover. Remember that you can ALWAYS pick it up when you have some more time, and you are more inspired to make art. Trying to force it is the fastest way to burn out your spark.
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>>6458129
Wyvern Weaver? I wasn't aware he ever came here. If he did that would be pretty cool though.
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>>6457249
>7/10
>not 10/10

What are you, a degenerate?
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>>6457901
medieval*; what story?
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>>6457066
What is your problem?
What's mine?
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>>6458255
>that beefiness
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>>6458407
yes
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>>6458407
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>>6458407
yus, ily. ty.
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>>6458407
Th-the absolute madman
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>>6458407
finally one with yandere nick rather than judy
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>>6458038
This got me to google sea rabbit.
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>>6458407
This gave me a boner and I don't know why
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>>6457916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2RPDZkY88
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>>6458487
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>>6458487
Glad you enjoyed it.
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>>6458487
bad foxe. ded bune is not for lewd
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>>6457916
How could I forget this gem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekOqgknkVN4

That last stage of the first game was fucking incredible. Starting real small and growing up to absurd size while this song played was something else.
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>>6458407
now draw him making out with her head :V
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>>6458557
2 lewd
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>>6458557
kys yourself amasyll
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what happened to /co/
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>>6458622
hot pockets
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>>6458622
This
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>>6458646
>>6458636
holy fug this is insanity
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>>6458407
>>6458487

Please don't hurt Judy :(
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>>6458407
so... what DO you call a no-headed bunny?
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>>6458709
yes christmas stuff is starting

>knotty
it's absolutely perfect
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>>6458693
Clearly Judy needs a proper and pure bunbun who will treat her well and not cut off her head.
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>>6458721
Dead
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>>6458693
What if she wants to be hurt?
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>>6458666
>checked
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>>6458407
whoa, you deserve more (You)'s, next time be less edgy and more normal, and draw nick fucking judy's head...
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>>6458749
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>6458782
Please donot Sprinkah. This is a no-Sprinkah zone.
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>>6458835
10/10 bun buns
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>>6458753
>biteplay
Bun like a bit if a nibble
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>>6459100
This.
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This thread needs more TF content.
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>>6458835
Because she's a bit of a Mary Sue.
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>>6458835
Relative naivety + determination to succeed is an endearing character trait (but also bun buns, like the other anon said).
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>>6459145
I dunno, man, that sounds like a slippery slope to degeneracy.
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>>6459230
We have long passed the point of return.
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>>6458407

I'm rather alarmed by this.

Judy is for hugs and cake and loving, not for decapitating.
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Have we died? Oh god are we dead?
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>>6459367
yes
rip
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>>6459367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPj3GAYYZ0
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>>6459274
Well shit I guess that means I have to post the rest of it.
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>>6459367
>Have we died? Oh god are we dead?
We've all been dead for a long time.
Welcome to Hell.
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>>6459367
Holidays + school + TT tomorrow + Discord takes most conversation
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>>6459347
Judy is for making rabbit stew.
Nick is for making searing game meat.
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>>6457300
>>6457360
those better be the extended versions
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>>6459416
no no, anon.
you don't have to do that.
there's still time to stop.
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>>6457077
Never again.
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>>6459465
The absolute madman
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>>6459454
ofc they are
that's why i said 12 hours
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>>6459465
glorious
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>>6459481
Huh, I haven't seen those yet. Guess I need to go out and get a shit ton of snacks.
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>>6459465
wew, nice one.
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>>6459465
nicely done
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>>6459519
don't forget the drinks, anon.
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>>6459274
>>6459416
>>6459461
>was trying to but keep getting error uploading
Even 4chan doesn't want me to post it ahahah.
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Why does /s4s/ like zootopie?
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>>6459621
>snout eyes
oddly unsettling
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>>6459621
its a nice movie

every movie with nice will eventually attract nice people who wrongly believe they are with nice people
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>>6459689
>filename
Awww
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>>6459689
How does that happen and why and what was the camera man doing there?
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>>6459725
dap some applesauce on their head
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Every day I come here to ask myself why I come here.
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>>6459764
evryday i cum in ur mom kuk fag kys
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>>6459764
You getting along ok?
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>>6459773
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>>6459764
The fluffy bunnies?
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>>6459764
Is it getting to that point? Hanging around until the next thing catches your eye?
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>>6459870
What do you think is more erotic in Zootopia: the fur, or the body?
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>>6459954
the difference in sizes
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>>6459725
Squirrel got into a giraffe enclosure at a zoo, obv.
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>>6459954
The fur that hides the body. Think of it as natural lingerie.
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>>6460011
Do some mammals completely wax themselves?
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>>6459954
F L O O F
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>>6460052
I would not be against finding out.
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>>6460078
>the naked mole rat is the sexiest mammal in Zootopia
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>>6459773
Use this. That one looks like she's going "ugh not this shit again."
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>>6459230
Good thing slippery slope is a shit argument, senpai
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>>6459881
I'm so much of a furfag I'm mostly here because it's the hot fur thing.
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>>6460222
Did you get any sleep Pigu with trips?
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>>6460168
thats wat ur mom sed wen i fukd her pucci raw homofag kuk kys
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>>6460259
I think I slept for over 12 hours. I feel more well rested than I have all week.

So I think I can draw today, which will be pleasant.
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>>6460222
Hello piggu, did you mell a tonin?
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>>6460313
Nice! Glad to hear you got some sweet snoozles.
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I killed a cat

It just kinda jumped in front of my car out of nowhere

I didn't have enough time to stop or swerve

It's fucking dead

I feel like absolute shit

Can I get some comfy please?
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>>6460364
Aw man, anon, that sucks. I hope you feel better.
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>>6460282
Oh, okay.
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>>6460364
That fucking sucks.
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>>6460364
Don't feel bad, anon. I'm sure that cat was an asshole and deserved it somehow.
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>>6460315
I'm out of money. I'll have to mell a tonin' another day soon.

Don't worry though. I'm on it!

>>6460336
I'm happy too. I think fluxx also helped a bit, but it's too early to say. I'm just glad to feel awake for once.

>filename
That's oddly adorable.
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>>6460455
How embarrassing
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Remmy fucking Judy when?
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>>6460521
When you draw or write about it.
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>>6460532
>Remmy was with Judy and they were naked
>"Let's fuck" said Remmy
>"Okay" Judy said
>Then they had fucking
>"OH YOU FUCK GREAT" Judy said out loud
>"I've had better" Remmy said

>Remmy awoke hours later in a daze, face down on the pavement
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>>6460364
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>>6460364
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>>6460562
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>>6460409
Yea, I'll bet it suffered, that asshole.
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>>6460579
It did. When I looked in my rear view mirror it looked like it was having a seizure

Thanks for making me feel worse
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>>6460364
I see your dead cat story, and raise you the deer I hit drunk last night...
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>>6460595
>deer

Who gives a shit about a dead deer? Deer are fucking stupid assholes.

Fuck you for driving drunk though.
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>>6460594
I DIDNT MEAN IT LIKE THAT, IM SORRY!

Damn you >>6460409
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>>6460562

A Minimalist Masterpiece!

I like the part where they fucked.
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>>6460364
A fucking squirrel did that to me when I was on my motorcycle. I damn near crashed trying to avoid it.
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>>6460364
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>>6460594
>>6460595
I hit a bun a couple months ago, felt the same way.
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>>6460608
Mechanic does what mechanic wants.... and I live in the middle of fucking nowhere... the only person I put in danger was myself, and... well... evidently the local wildlife
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>>6460627
Hey joker, how is it going?
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How do you filter this shit again?
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yep, im out thread, night
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>>6460683
Old filtering methods no longer work due to Joker catching on to them.

I'd give you advice on how to filter, but then my methods won't work since it means he'll catch on.
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>>6460418
Crap. Well I dunno. No idea how much they cost, since I just ask my dad to send me a couple whenever I have a bad streak, which isn't often to begin with.

>>6460562
That's what you get, grazer.
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kek, Jokerfag doesn't even try and make it hard to filter him anymore
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>>6460718
I'm on mobile
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Im fucking sick of this shit.

Im out and not coming back

fuck off.
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>>6460735
At least it isn't discord drama.
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>>6460728
my condolences then anon
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>>6460718
There's nothing better than seeing your filters work right when he starts posting

>>6460728
Don't worry, a mod or janny will come around eventually. They always do.
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>>6455773
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>>6460735
Chill man, it's not like it's a common occurrence.
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>>6460735
I'm pretty much done with this too.

Worst day I've had in a long while, have about an hour to spare, and this happens.

I'm just tired that the time I can spend with you all is spent dead and deader because of a spam fag
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>>6460826
Filter or shitpost in the Discord.
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>>6460826
hence why most of the CC and active posters are in the discord
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>>6460735
>>6460826

Take heart, anons. I'm glad you're both here. We have a really comfy Christmas season on its way.
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>Spamming a thread during dead hours when there's already hardly anyone here
>Doesn't even try to mix it up with the filenames

It's like he's not even trying anymore, gek.
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>>6460841
On mobile.

>>6460842
I don't fucking like the discord. I don't like having a name. I don't like talking off topic.

I get it. Fuck me, if I don't accept it as an option than either leave or enjoy the spam.

I'm tired. Goodbye. Inky, please upload your photos to Tumblr.
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>>6460879
Do you have a name, anon?
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>>6460879
I don't want to see anyone leave anon.

Take a day off and come back when the spam has cleared out. Saying that you're done with the threads forever is just going to give the spammer more incentive to continue, because that is his goal.

Don't let him win. We've gone this far, why stop now?
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>6460735
>6460826
>6460879
Part of me wonders if this is just Joker trying to ruin the general mood of the thread by faking all these anons leaving.
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>>6460924
Hmmm. Interesting hypothesis. Check em.
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>>6460924
quite, he's easy to ignore anyway
which only makes it extra sad
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>>6460641
>rats with hooves
I'm curious, do you have to call someone to remove the deer? Traffic hazard and all that.
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Can someone message Comic and ask him if he's around?
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Hey joker, tell us a joke
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>>6461034
Sure thing!
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>>6461034
Doesn't seem like it
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>>6460714
It's all good anon.
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WHAT'S YOUR ENDGAME
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>>6459689

>Mlem

https://youtu.be/GKNB7Eid-ek
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>>6461251
Jokes on you, I'm reading all this. Keep going.
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>>6460879
I already do, but unless you're here it might take a few months to see new ones. I run on a queue on tumblr.

I'm glad you like my stuff all the same. Much appreciated.
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>>6461228
To make us hate Batman?
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And now back to our regularly scheduled bunposting
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I deleted the thread since the janitors showed up.

Sorry.
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>>6461421
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Thank you Janitors, you are cool duders.
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Thanks jans.
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mods = gods
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>>6460336
Bun bois are the lewdest.
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>>6461501
That they are.
Apparently!
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Eyyyy, based jannies
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we back boys
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>>6461501
I heard bun bois and came as fast as I could.
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>>6461513
Maximum amazing snugglers too.

>>6461520
Hell ya bun bois!

You rule Janitors
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Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to begin, if I might, by thanking President Bush, President Carter and President Ford and this congressional delegation for coming on very short notice all the way to Jordan to make a clear and unambiguous statement about our regard and respect and gratitude to King Hussein and the people of Jordan. I thank them very, very much. (Applause.)
I want to thank Ambassador Burns and all of you in the embassy community for representing us in a difficult and challenging part of the world and a wonderful country. I thank all the Jordanian nationals who work for the United States. We are honored by your efforts, and when Jordanians and Americans work together in our embassy here in Amman, they symbolize the partnership that we hope will always exist between the United States and Jordan.
Most of what I would have said has already been said so eloquently by those who have spoken before. I would just like to make a couple of points about King Hussein and about King Abdullah. First of all, Hussein really did bring people together. You know, I was looking at the four of us, here we are, two Democrats; two Republicans. We have agreed on many things. We've disagreed a thing or two over time. But we know that America's interest and America's heart were close to this king and this country.
I looked at the Israeli delegation today -- (laughs) -- I could hardly believe my eyes. (Laughter.) All the candidates for prime minister were there. (Laughter.) They were all walking together. You know, I don't know if they talk at home, but they were all talking here. (Laughter.) I thought, it was as if Hussein was hugging them all, you know. (Laughter.) It was really a beautiful sight. People coming from all around the world, countries that are at each others' throats
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>>6461520
Don't come too fast, you gotta enjoy it.
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>>6458777
Sorry, I don't do lewds.
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an amazing thing.
The second thing I would like to say is that he really was driven not by the title he had but by the responsibilities it bore. And he was ennobled not by the title, but by the strength of his own character and his vision and his spirit. It was unbelievable to me when we talked right before we started this last round of peace negotiations at Wye, and I knew how ill he was. He said, "Well, I would be willing to come down there if you think it would help." I said -- (laughs) -- "If I think it would help?" I said, "This whole thing's about to come apart. Of course it would help." I said, "If you come down, they won't have the courage to walk away here without an agreement." And so he did. And he took a house, and some days he could only work 30 minutes or an hour, but every day we needed him in that long Wye peace accord, he was there. Every day he was needed, he was there, no matter how sick he was, no matter how bad he felt.
And his son, the new king, told me tonight, he said, "You know, the truth is it put some days on his life, because he was doing what he believed in." And all the icy atmosphere of those tense talks would immediately disappear when Hussein walked in the room, because all the differences and animosities and grievances seemed small in the face of this very large presence. And it was almost as if the more frail his body became, the more powerful the essence of his spirit was.
Every Jordanian citizen can be proud of that -- can be proud the on every continent and every country of the world, people said, "That is the sort of person we all ought to be."
The last point I would like to make is that I would like to join the previous speakers in saying that I have great confidence in the young king of Jordan. I had a very good meeting with him today. He clearly understands his mission. He said in the most moving way, h quiet, humble confidence that I saw so often in his father.
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We owe a great debt to my friend and someone who has done a tremendous job on so many issues, Tipper Gore, for immediately bringing public attention to what had happened in Central America. And I want to thank her personally again for that.

Secretary Albright, thank you for your leadership and for shepherding American diplomacy into the new century so well and with such strength and purpose.
Secretary Caldera, thank you for being here. I enjoyed very much seeing you when I was on the ground visiting our troops, and it gave me such a tremendous sense of pride to see the men and women of the United States military performing as well as they always do, given whatever assignment they undertake.
I, too, want to thank Brian Atwood and the entire USAID family for the work they do every day around the world, and in particular what they've done here.
I also want to say a special word of appreciation to Maria Echaveste, who headed up the president's task force that has led us to the recommendations that we are making today in response to the need that was reported to the president.
And the people who put on the green eyeshades and find the money over at OMB, I want to thank all of you for working double and triple time to make this day happen.
To the members of Congress, to the ambassadors and other members of the diplomatic community, and particularly to the all NGOs represented here, I want to thank you for your strong presence on behalf of the people of the United States. As you served on the front lines to help open roads, restore homes, bring services back into isolated communities, literally, to save lives in Central America and the Caribbean.
This has been one of the most extraordinary international efforts in recent memory. When I visited the region shortly after Hurricane Mitch, I not only talked with American troops about what we were d ood and clothing that just happened to be from Little Rock, Arkansas. I do onversations that I had with the
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in Honduras I saw a plane from Japan and another filled with food and clothing that just happened to be from Little Rock, Arkansas. I don't know that that was planned.
(LAUGHTER)
CLINTON: But more than that, I was moved by the meetings and conversations that I had with the leaders of these countries and with the citizens who have embarked on an extraordinary effort to rebuild not only the physical infrastructure of their countries, but more than that, the sense of hope and optimism that had recently come to this region after so many years of bloodshed and war, disappointment and pessimism about the future.
A woman in Nicaragua told me that the hurricane, in terms of its damage, was worse than both the war and the earthquake that leveled Managua. And when I obviously expressed some surprise at that rather remarkable statement, she said that it was because, unlike the terrible problems with the earthquake or even unlike the years of unrest and war, certain parts of the country were left untouched and life could go on somewhat normally.
But here, the entire country was affected, entire crops wiped out, villages destroyed, parents left without jobs or food for their children.
So that it's clear that these nations that we are addressing today need not just short-term humanitarian relief, which we have come forward with in an extraordinary show of support, but they need long- term reconstruction. Which is why when my husband first announced U.S. assistance to help the people of Central America get back on their feet and look again toward the future with hope and optimism, he made it clear that we would stand with the people of these countries for the long haul. And today, we are making good on that promise.
I'm very pleased that the president has proposed funding of nearly $1 billion to help our Latin American neighbors repair and rebuild in the aftermath of these disasters. This proposal will help in several critical ways. t too often rear their ugly
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Wow, three times mod smack down and still trying.

Guess we know who's lonely this Thanksgiving.
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Keep this up and you're gonna get ranged
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But instead there had to be sustained investments in the well being of the people of these countries -- investments in education to raise literacy rates, in health care to lower maternal and infant mortality rates. And it is this progress which has been so much put at risk because of the devastation of these hurricanes.
I remember very well in my meeting with the leadership of Guatemala and the promises that were made when the peace agreements were signed two years ago. Those promises were not just about decommissioning weapons, as important as that is. Those promises included investing more money in education and in health care and in making it possible for the people who are now free of war to feel that they have a future worth building.
In Nicaragua alone, 60 percent of the citizens are unemployed as a result of the hurricane. For farmers whose crops were wiped out, the president's proposal will provide important tools to help restore production. For people in rural areas, it will reinstall the roads and bridges that bring produce to markets and create jobs.
And for 70,000 entrepreneurs, it will provide the small loans needed for micro businesses. This is something that we feel very strongly about in this administration, from the president on. And some of you may have been in the White House last week when we held our second annual awards ceremony here in the United States to honor micro enterprise.
But we know that it's a tool for building lives and creating markets where none exist before. And so this proposal will include such funding.
The president's proposal will also help rebuild the roads, homes and schools that people rely on every day. For example, 6,000 new open air schools will be created and school supplies will be put in the hands of 200,000 children.
Finally, this proposal e in several different ways. They need more help in creating better systems to deal with disasters. That is one of the strong
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prepared for future storms.
CLINTON: This package also includes $50 million to help the Dominican Republic, Haiti and the eastern Caribbean restore the housing, health care and jobs destroyed by Hurricane Georges. I saw again personally when I visited the Dominican Republic and Haiti the continuing effects of the damage from Hurricane Georges in both of those countries, and this will be a very welcome addition to the work that those countries are doing.
This proposal also includes an additional $10 million to help the victims of the recent earthquake in Colombia, a devastating earthquake whose damage is still being assessed in some remote areas of Colombia.
From the start, our obligation to help Central America and the Caribbean recover from these tragedies has transcended politics, and so, too, must it now. This entire proposal is the product of close bipartisan consultation with members of Congress from both houses and both sides of the aisle. I'm very heartened by the support that Republican members have given, many who also made the trip to see for themselves the effect of these hurricanes. And it is our hope that Congress will quickly act to pass this proposal.
On March 8th, I will accompany the president on his trip to Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala, where he will see the destruction firsthand, where he will also meet with people who've been affected, as well as meeting with American troops and American NGOs. And he will hear what all of you in this room know so well -- how important it is for us to extend a helping hand to our neighbors to help them heal and rebuild.
I know that many of you who have worked in Central America and the Caribbean for many years understand how devastating the effect of these hurricanes have been. We understand how at just the moment in time when all of these countries were poised for the future this devastating natural disaster has seemed to come out of nowhere and set them back with respect to pu
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and from Indianapolis, ABC News political analyst, George Stephanopoulos.

George, let me begin with you. It's begun. "New York Daily News," a columnist says that Mrs. Clinton, if she's going to run, has to learn when you say it takes a village you means Greenwich Village, and if you come to New York, you have to wear black, black, black and leave your old accessories at home, for instance, the big one in the Oval Office. Is Mrs. Clinton serious about taking this on?

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ABC News Analyst: I don't think so. I think she must be having an awful lot of fun with all the speculation over the last few weeks and she's clearly putting out the word she's thinking about it, but all the questions you raise in your piece still come back. Even if Mrs. Clinton could win, why would she want to go through an amazingly tough race in her last years in the White House, and why would she want to be the junior senator from New York when she could be one of the senior statesman in the world after leaving the White House.

DIANE SAWYER: Why would she be teasing people either?

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I think she's got a sense of humor, number one. I think number two, it's flattering. Number three, it's been, frankly, a helpful story line to have in the post impeachment phase, Mrs. Clinton out on her own and being flattered in the New York press and being built up in the New York press. It puts out some independence with her from the President. So I think it serves a lot of purposes even if she doesn't decide to run.

DIANE SAWYER: Cokie, what's your vote on this, and what are the quirks of a Senate race?

COKIE ROBERTS, ABC News: The quirks of a Senate race are awful any place, and in New York they are really awful. Just ask Geraldine Ferraro. The truth is I think Mrs. Clinton -- I only know from what I read and some of her friends I've talked to -- I think she might start to consider it seriously. What happens to p ot the Democ h to me is just plain nuts.
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Washington, Chris Wallace.

CHRIS WALLACE: Let's admit right from the outset that what we're indulging in tonight may be one of the better examples of hype. After the year the first family has been through, it would certainly be understandable if they want to have a little fun toying with the idea of one more campaign. And after the year Mrs. Clinton has been through, it would certainly be understandable if she wants to have a little fun being courted as a candidate.

But even if it turns out to be nothing more than a brief diversion, the thought of the First Lady throwing herself into the cut and thrust of politics New York style, well, it's too enticing to ignore. It would be historic, the first First Lady ever to run for office. It would be compelling theater, Hillary Clinton slugging it out on the issues in between bites of bagels or cannolli. (ph) And it would be great politics, a true liberal taking on everything the Republican Party can throw at her. As Nightline's Chris Bury reports, in New York they can hardly wait.

CHRIS BURY, ABC News: (voice-over) The headline left little doubt what was on the minds of New Yorkers this morning. From the tabloids to the ticker on Times Square, the prospect of Senator HillaryRodham Clinton was the talk of the town. The notion of a match up between Mrs. Clinton and New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani is pure catnip for politicians and pundits desperate for a post-impeachment fix.

Sen. CHARLES SCHUMER, (D), New York: I think Hillary Clinton would be a great candidate and a great senator and what she has told me is that she is now beginning to look at this seriously.

Sen. JOHN McCAIN, (R), Arizona: Many of us who are political junkies salivate at the prospect of a Clinton-Giuliani race for the United States Senate.

JACK NEWFIELD: It would be Viagra for the media.

CHRIS BURY: (voice-over) Even the President has not discour tement f R), Virginia: It turns out I am the as already said she would immediately
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JACK NEWFIELD: Congresswoman Nita Lowey is the only other alternative the Democrats have at this point and she has already said she would immediately step aside if the First Lady wants to enter the race. I think Hillary Clinton's interest, and I think there is interest, is going to freeze the field until April or May or June when she finally decides.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, First Lady Of The United States: Now, every New Yorker, I believe, has a tremendous stake in this -- men, women, children of all ages, all backgrounds, races, ethnicities because one of our great challenges moving into this new century is are we going to do this together?

CHRIS BURY: (voice-over) The buzz about Hillary began with her wildly successful fundraising efforts on behalf of Charles Schumer and other Democratic candidates. Now, they are urging her to run, knowing her approval ratings have never been higher. That she is an Illinois native living in Washington and registered to vote in Arkansas makes little difference in New York.

BOBBY KENNEDY: The first senator from the state of New York, Rupert King, was from Massachusetts.

CHRIS BURY: (voice-over) That's how Bobby Kennedy answered the carpetbagger question when he moved to New York just to capture a Senate seat in 1964. But even if New Yorkers are historically open to out of towners, why would Mrs. Cli and knowing she will have enormous and lucrative opportunities ahead? The First Lady's former press secretary believes all this attention validates Mrs. Clinton's standing as an independent political figure.

LI To begin the Clintons face millions in legal bills and she would give up the opportunity to make a lot of money. And a campaign in New York, particularly against a tough opponent like Rudolph Giuliani, would likely be far more ferociou
CHRIS then her media exposure has been carefully choreographed for the most positive and often glowing results. But this is the kind o
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JACK NEWFIELD: She is going to be sitting in Katz's Delicatessen with her mouth full of knish and 30 guys are going to be yelling at her to explain the $100,000 profit she made in the commodity trade in Arkansas in 1979.

CHRIS BURY: (voice-over) In fact, just this morning the popular New York radio personality Don Imus offered a taste of what Mrs. Clinton might expect.

DON IMUS: See, the last time we talked to her she was playing three card monte with billing records in the book room and jerking your chain on Wall Street and hiding suicide notes and she wants to run for the Senate against the most vicious person on the planet, Rudolph Giuliani? What is she nuts?

CHRIS BURY: (voice-over) This afternoon, Mayor Giuliani, who has yet to announce his candidacy for the Senate, refused to speculate about a possible match up with Mrs. Clinton.

Mayor RUDOLPH GIULIANI: I don't have anything to say to her. I mean she's got to decide what she wants to do and I'll decide what I want to do and rather than play your game, I'll do it on my own terms.

CHRIS BURY: (voice-over) In New York, politics is a rough and tumble game. Consider last fall's Senate race between Charles Schumer and Al D'Amato. The most hotly contested question was whether D'Amato had called Schumer a putzhead.

AL D'AMATO: I have absolutely no knowledge of ever having made that statement.

Sen. CHARLES SCHUMER: Al D'Amato used a cheap slur against me and then when asked lied about it.

LISA CAPUTO: I think Hillary Clinton is such a fighter. She's got a real tough skin and I think that if she could weather what she's weathered over the past six years, I think that she can just about weather anything.

CHRIS BURY: Two other popular first ladies, Jackie Kennedy and Eleanor Roosevelt, were also encouraged to run for the Senate and of course neither did. Some of those who have spoken wi tline in Washington.
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CHRIS WALLACE: So, does Hillary Clinton have what it takes to run? We'll ask three veterans of New York political warfare, when we come back.

(Commercial Break)

CHRIS WALLACE: Joining us now from New York, former Republican Senator Alfonse D'Amato. Joining us from Los Angeles, Jerry Nachman, former columnist and editor of the New York Post. And joining us here in Washington, Mandy Grunwald, political and media advisor to both the President and the First Lady and to New York Democratic Senator Patrick Moynihan.

Mandy, let's start with Don Imus' question, is she nuts? After everything she's been through, why in the world would Hillary Clinton sign up for what promises to be a brutal campaign?

MANDY GRUNWALD, Former Clinton Advisor: (Washington) Well, if she wants to do it it would probably be for the same reason she's done a lot of things in her life, because she thinks it's the place she could make a difference. You know, there are a lot of issues she's worked on, children's issues, women's issues, and I think if she decides to make this run she's not going to focus on the New York Post or what the traffic's going to be like but really what the job would be and what she could get done. And yeah, you're always a little bit nuts to run in New York and it's always tough, but she's dealt with Ken Starr. I think she could probably deal with the New York Post.

CHRIS WALLACE: Senator D'Amato, imagine that you're the Republican candidate in this
race. Would it be delicate to run against the First Lady? Would you have to pull your punches?

AL D'AMATO, (R), Former Senator New York: (New York) You'd have to certainly be careful, particularly if you have a woman. But let me say she has a natural constituency. She'd rally a tremendous amount of support and she'd be a very formidable candidate and I think the media w throughout the country following this race. The New York press corps is tc., and some of these programs are great eone who will be in t
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CHRIS WALLACE: Jerry Nachman, as a former New York street reporter, if this race happens, it doesn't get any better than this, does it?

JERRY NACHMAN, Former "New York Post" Editor: (Los Angeles) No, Chris, it makes me homesick just thinking about it. It would be the Ali-Frasier fight. This battle, potential battle between Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani, probably on paper, has to be one of the great bouts of all time.

CHRIS WALLACE: How rough does it get for Mrs. Clinton both from the Republicans and from the New York media?

JERRY NACHMAN: The most fascinating thing to me, Chris, is the possibility of Mrs. Clinton getting the nomination without a primary. I mean Senator D'Amato can attest to what a leg up that would be for any Democrat to go into the general election without having gone through the combat and having spent the money of going through a Democratic primary in New York.

CHRIS WALLACE: Mandy Grunwald, what about this issue which Chris Bury referred to in his story? As First Lady when things got hot, Hillary Clinton could just disappear for weeks on end. As a Senate candidate, she'd have to be out there and answer the questions every day.

MANDY GRUNWALD: Sure she would. I mean the New York press corps is very demanding and she would have to play the game their way. Yes, there would be some things that would be a little bit different because she's First Lady. But if she makes the decision to run, she would have to understand what a campaign in New York is all about. And I think she'd be ready for that. I think it's not really whether she can handle it, it's whether this is the best place for her to make a difference. I think we'd all love to watch it. I mean I think you hear that from all of us. And if you think that a campaign between Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani would be interesting, I'd love to see one between
CHRIS e theater of it. But when it really comes down to, it's going to come down to d
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CHRIS WALLACE: Senator D'Amato, is there still life in those old scandals?

AL D'AMATO: Well, I think it really would come from not the candidate himself, but I think the media's going to bring it up. I think that's just an inevitable fact. I mean I've run so many times in New York and yet the old things are just hashed and rehashed. But Mandy's right, if a candidate tries to take her on on the issues of Whitewater, etc., they lose. They're going to have to take her on on the issues that really New Yorkers are going to look at -- do you want to be just taxed to death and more spending and more big government and can we contrast Mrs. Clinton's positions and what it will cost people for many of the programs that she advocates?

So I think it's going to be more intellectual and more on the basis of who can deliver, who can get the job done, who's going to be better for New Yorkers? It'll be a great race.

CHRIS WALLACE: Mandy, let me ask you about that. I mean can't Mrs. Clinton be attacked as a big government liberal? Won't she be hung around her neck, the failed health reform plan?

MANDY GRUNWALD: Well, I think she learned a lot from the, from her episode in 1994 with health reform and has shown with the work she's done on other health care issues taking a smaller approach to things like HMO reform, the HMO Bill of Rights, children's health coverage, that she learned from that experience. I think she very much is part of what she and the President have always called the third way, the sort of centrist place they've taken the Democratic Party. And there, I think people would be in, actually, for a lot of surprises on questions like welfare reform where she very much supported what the Pr
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if anything she used it as leverage to swing herself on dat oni knot
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I WANNA SEE IT.

dodgers stuff all came to a point and he won the New York State primary anyway. She could take a lot of lessons from her husband on how to get through those tough days.

CHRIS WALLACE: Mandy, how does Mrs. Clinton handle all that and why in the world, again, why would she want to?

MANDY GRUNWALD: I just keep laughing about the irony that we've spent the last year watching a group of people trying to kick the President out of office and now we have a group of people trying to drag her in. It's just, the juxtaposition is unbelievable. I think she could handle whatever she needs to handle. She has shown this year an unbelievable grace under pressure and has handled publicly things that nobody in the world has ever had to. If she wants this job, I have every faith that she'll know how to go about dealing with all the various things in the New York press, in the New York political system that she needs to. It isn't going to be easy. I don't take it lightly. I think the real question is whether this is the right choice for her. And she's going to take some time to figure that out.

CHRIS WALLACE: All right, well let's talk about that. As long as she's out there it freezes the race, Mandy, for any other Democrat. How long, realistically, does she really have to make up her mind?

MANDY GRUNWALD: I don't know if there's any specific time line. She said she'd make a decision later this year. I certainly think, you know, having worked for Senator Moynihan three times, I'd owey would be a strong candidate and there are probably others out there. I don't think there's a magic date. I think Hillary should take the time to make this decision right and if she doesn't run I assume she'll work very hard for whoever decides to.

CHRIS WALLACE: We've only got about 30 seconds left so I'm going to ask you all to share it and be brief about it. We know all the reasons why on't she?
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TEICHNER: (Voiceover) But if the election were held today, according to the polls, Hillary Rodham Clinton would beat New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani by 11 percent.
Unidentified Pollster #2: Do you have a favorable or an unfavorable impression of Hillary Clinton?
Unidentified Man #1: Favorable.
(Visuals of covers of poll printouts; poll printout form; footage of poll takers working at computers)
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) On Tuesday night, in a new survey conducted by the Marist College poll in Poughkeepsie, New York, New York state voters liked Mrs. Clinton by better than a 2:1 margin. The numbers seem to reinforce the notion that the first lady is the only person to emerge from the White House scandals with her reputation intact, if not enhanced.
Unidentified Pollster #3: You say Hillary Clinton. OK.
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) We wanted to know if that's really true, so we asked the Marist pollsters to tack on a question for us.
Pollster #3: Do you like Hillary Clinton more or less than you did two years ago?
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) Five out of 10 people liked her more, only two out of 10 liked her less. But what was interesting was why.
Unidentified Woman #2: She's a woman of character. I think she knows what she wants, and she's gonna get it.
(Footage of pollsters)
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) How she handled the scandals was not the main reason people liked her more. It was significant, but the number one reason was, paraphrasing, 'how she has grown as a person.'
Unidentified Man #2: After watching her for a couple of years, she's just a very smart lady.
Pollster #3: Why do you like Hillary Clinton less now than you did two years ago?
Unidentified Woman #3: Why?
Pollster #3: Yes.
Woman #3: Because I just don't understand why she'd stay with her husband and let him make a fool of her.
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Hey thread! How's it going? I'm a tad drunk right now. I just like checking in with you guys.
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Mr. MIRINGOFF: I don't think it's, you know, an issue of a traditional role vs. a non-traditional role. I don't think it's an issue just strictly of Hillary Clinton vs. Hillary Rodham Clinton. I think it has to do with what she represents.
(Footage of Hillary Clinton)
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) The turnaround has been remarkable.
Mrs. HILLARY CLINTON: I just want to say before I go in that I am happy to answer the grand jury's questions.
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) This is, after all, the only first lady ever hauled before a grand jury. In January 1996, the same month she testified on Whitewater issues, her approval ratings registered disapproval, another first for a first lady. The figures were 36 percent negative, only 26 percent positive, according to a CBS poll.
Ms. GAIL SHEEHY (Journalist): She's so allergic to scrutiny that she causes more scrutiny.
(Footage of Sheehy; visual of Vanity Fair cover and inside pages)
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) Journalist Gail Sheehy's look at the Clintons' marriage was featured in February's Vanity Fair, and she's writing a book about the first lady.
Ms. SHEEHY: Being very not forthcoming with information all the way through only created more and more suspicion and gave more and more ammunition to their enemies on the right.
(Footage of Democratic convention)
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) The numbers stayed negative all the way to the Democratic National Convention in August 1996.
Mrs. CLINTON: It takes a family, it takes teachers, it takes clergy. Yes, it takes a village.
(Footage of Hillary Clinton at convention; traveling abroad)
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) After Mrs. Clinton spoke in Chicago, the climb back up began. So did her transformation. She never stopped traveling the country, no, the world, speaking on behalf of children and women, but there were no more pictures of her embattled and defensive on the evening news.
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hell, or whether they see her as, you know, the most graceful stand-by-your man wife, sh--if--if it's going her way, the less she says, the better.
(Footage of Bill Clinton; Mrs. Clinton; visual of Vogue cover; footage of Mr. and Mrs. Clinton)
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) By the time the Monica story hit in January 1998, Mrs. Clinton's numbers were already way up, 45 percent positive, 27 percent negative, according to a CBS poll. She stood by her man and they went up even more. As the sordid soap opera played itself out on Capitol Hill, the first lady looked better and better, even if that's not how she felt. The editor of Vogue is quoted as telling celebrity photographer Annie Liebovitz that she wanted Mrs. Clinton to look like British royalty on the December cover. She is now enjoying her highest ratings ever, almost 3:1 positive. But compare Hillary Clinton to other first ladies, say Barbara Bush, who was polling 20:1 positive even when her husband was losing to Bill Clinton in 1992.
KATHLEEN FRANKOVIC (CBS News): It's fair to say that she was, in fact, being judged by different standards than other first ladies, but part of that is probably because she was acting as first lady in a different way from other first ladies.
TEICHNER: (Voiceover) Kathleen Frankovic heads the CBS News polling unit.
FRANKOVIC: It's very clear that the--the views that people have of Mrs. Clinton are very mus--much affected by the partisan lenses they look through and they're also very much affected by gender.
TEICHNER: Republican men, according to the polls, still can't stand Hillary Clinton by more t ncerned about protecting Chelsea, and whether the Senate is the right place for her. Former New York Governor Mario Cuomo has another idea.
Former Governor MARIO CUOMO (New York): She could be a great vice president, especially if the Republicans make Elizabeth Dole their vice presidential candidate, which I suspect is what's going to happen.
(Split screen footage of Mrs. Clinton and Mrs. Dole)
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>>6461725
I'm not doing good.

I'm drunk too, and I think I might cry after seeing those people saying they were going to leave.
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Countries which help girls to be educated and give girls good health care, good nutrition, good opportunities..

BARBARA WALTERS: You know she's acting as a good will ambassador. But what fascinating countries to see. I mean to be able to take Chelsea and do that kind of sight seeing in Tunisia and Egypt and Morocco, very exotic, exciting place.

DIANE SAWYER: It's true. And Chelsea always emerges in the middle of this, too, as someone with such poise and grace in these situations. We see her going into a mosque now cutting ribbon. She also toured a bazaar and had a great time just interacting with some of the people in the bazaar, we're told. And she not only that while she was there, was very relaxed talking about the fact that she might indeed run for Senate.

BARBARA WALTERS: Uh-huh. We thought she would have a respite there. She was still asked about it. She says she'll cope with it when she gets home.

DIANE SAWYER: Do you think she'll do it? Do you want to bet?

BARBARA WALTERS: What do you think?

DIANE SAWYER: Not sure. Still can't believe it.

BARBARA WALTERS: You have to say yes she will. I don't want a I'm not sure bet.

DIANE SAWYER: I bet I don't think so.

BARBARA WALTERS: I bet she will. What are we betting?

DIANE SAWYER: Done, we'll be back.

(Commercial Break)

DIANE SAWYER: So before you go, I'm not Hispanic, I'm not so young, I'm marginally hip, can still audition for "The View"? Please?

BARBARA WALTERS: We're going to say later on we have now narrowed it down to three. We're going to ask people to stop sending tapes. We got thousands of tapes. But we're down to the, you know, the last few.

ANTONIO MORA: If Tony and I put on dresses it won't work either?

BARBARA WALTERS: That's a flop.

DIANE SAWYER: The "Tootsie" approach.

BARBARA WALTERS: I love being with you. We tease each other, but I really do enjoy it. And I'm so glad it's just for one day.

DIANE SAWYER: I don't suppose tomorrow you want
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>>6461725
Not too well... Love you clunk!
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MRS. CLINTON: Thank you, and welcome to the White House. Please be seated. We are delighted to have you here this afternoon to help commemorate Equal Pay Day, which is tomorrow. I'm glad to see so many both new and old faces in the fight for equal pay.
And we know that this is a struggle that has taken some time. We've made a lot of progress, but I hope that we'll eventually see the end of Equal Pay Day because the goal will have been achieved, and we won't have to have any sessions like this, where we continue to talk about it.

We know that women who walk into the grocery store are not asked to pay 25 percent less for milk, they're not asked by their landlords to pay 25 percent less for rent, and they should no longer be asked to try to make their ends meet and their family incomes what they should be by having 25 percent less in their paychecks.
Many people have worked for the well as a great advocate for equal pay and women's rights -- it has nothing to do with the wife he has or the daughters he's raised -- but Senator Tom Harkin, who is a real champion. (Applause.) Also Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton is here with us -- (applause) -- EEOC Chairwoman Ida Castro. (Applause.) And I want to thank two local officials who are here, Lewiston (sp) mayor Callie Terra (sp) and Georgia representative Sharon Beasley (sp), for their contributions as well. (Applause.)
I also want to pay a special word of appreciation to Linda Chavez-Thompson and the AFL-CIO, Gail Chaeffer (sp) and the Business and Professional Women, Susan Bianchi Sand (sp) and the National Committee on Pay Equity. Together, these groups have helped lead the fight for pay equity, and they will be organizing hundreds of grass- roots events around the country tomorrow.
In a few minutes, we are going to hear from our four panelists. They will be able to tell you in their own words why they are here. But when you have heard from Professor
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>>6461725
Doing alright, thinking of bun bois.
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>>6461747
I just got here. Who said they were going to leave. Don't worry bro, we're in this together, two drunk doods.
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Caroline Gant (sp) and Patricia Higgins, you will appreciate, as I think all of us who have ever been in the world of work do, the struggles and the challenges and the victories that they have faced and the way they represent so many other women.
One of my staff members was home for the holidays last week, and there was a cartoon stuck up on the refrigerator in her house. I mean, that is where everybody keeps all of their reminders, their namesakes, their children's drawings and all the important documents, at least in my experience. And her mother, without knowing anything about this day and this particular commemoration, had cut out a cartoon, which showed six people sitting around a conference-room table, all in suits, all wearing glasses, all men. And one of them announces, "Gentlemen, we must cut our expenses in half, so I am replacing each of you with a woman." (Laughter.)
Now clearly, these are not as bad as the cartoon -- you know, they have to exaggerate to get our attention -- and things clearly have improved. As a recent Council of Economic Advisers report makes clear, the gap between women's and men's wages has narrowed since 1 wer wages.
But this is not an accurate finding, and those who promote it should look at the entire picture and the studies that have been done repeatedly which demonstrate the contrary. Women at all ages, when you adjust for differences in education, experience and occupation, as a recent CE omotions, committee assignments, and the allocation of resources such as lab space and research dollars. This report showed that even women who supposedly break through the glass ceiling and reach the highest echelons of their professions still find themselves bumping up against some gender discrimination
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>>6461752
How did you know it was me? I love you too btw

>>6461762
The real question is: u dem bois???
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So I think it's fair to say that when you have some of the best scientists in the world taking a look at this issue in one institution and coming to these conclusions, and then that in turn supports the broader findings that have been derived from looking at society at large, we know that we do have a wage gap that we have to address. And it's not just a gap in wages, it's a gap in our nation's principles and promises.
So it's a great pleasure for me to be here with the secretary of Labor and the panelists whom you'll hear from. And it's a particular pleasure to introduce the president, who reminded Senator Harkin, in my presence, a few minutes ago that until he became president, I always made more money than he did -- (laughter) -- and the wage gap went the other direction in our family. But since I've been a full- time volunteer now for six-and-a-half years, the gap is narrowing even in the Clinton family.
So please join me in welcoming the president. (Applause.)
That is the truth. (Laughter.) But Hillary didn't tell you the rest of the story.
Senator Harkin, whose wonderful wife Ruth was also a part of our administration for several years, she has often made more money than her husband. And so we decided that maybe we should become part of a small but vocal radical caucus saying we shouldn't stop at equal pay, we like it when our wives made -- (laughs) -- more money than we do. (Laughter.) We have enjoyed the benefits of that.
I would like to thank Senator Harkin and Eleanor Holmes Norton for being here and for being long-time champions of this cause. I thank Ida Castro, our EE when I had been elected but not inaugurated president, about how low we could get unemployment before inflation would go up. And all the traditional economists said, Man, when you get below 6 percent, you know, you will just see what'll happen. And the American people turned out to be a lot more productive, a lot more
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elected but not inaugurated president, about how low we could get unemployment before inflation would go up. And all the traditional economists said, Man, when you get below 6 percent, you know, you will just see what'll happen. And the American people turned out to be a lot more productive, a lot more efficient, technology turned out to be a lot more helpful, we were in a much more competitive environment. So now we have 4.2 percent unemployment, the lowest rate since 1970, the lowest peacetime unemployment since 1957, 18 million new jobs. But we still have some significant long-term challenges in this country.
We have pockets of America, in rural America, in urban America, in our medium-size industrial cities, our Native American reservations, which have not felt any of the impact of the economic recovery. We still have substantial long-term challenges to Social Security, to Medicare, and we still have a significant fact of inequality in the pay of women and men.
And the central point I would like to make is that we should not allow the political climate or anything else to deter us from concentrating our minds on the fact that this is a precious gift that the American people have received, even though they have earned it. Countries rarely have conditions like this. If we can't use this moment to deal with these long-term challenges, including the equal pay challenge, when will we ever get around to it? That is the message I want America t ren is an obligation we ought to shoulder and get the job done. That's what this is about.
And those of us who are old en against often are in families, raising children with husbands who are also hurt if their wives work hard and don't have the benefits of equal pay.
A lot of the women who are single mothers are out there working, and they have boy children as well as girl children. This is not just a gender issue, and men should be very interested in this.
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>>6461746
source?
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>>6461763
I don't know who they are and I don't care.

I love everyone here. It makes me sad to theink they would leave and that they'd leave feeling so terrible.
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>>6461752
Also I wanted to ask: What's up man? Why you not doing so hot?
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I'd like to make, too, a third point -- not in my notes, but Hillary made me think of it. You know, there are these people now who are out there saying, "Well, you know, there really isn't much of an equal pay problem, because it's almost exclusively confined to women who have children, and women who have children have to have more intermittent periods in the workplace and" -- you know, you've heard all the arguments -- "and once you factor that out, well, there's no problem."
Well, I have two reactions to that. First of all, if you take that argument to its logical conclusion, we would be the most -- we would be depopulating America before you know it. No one else has really figured out any way to bring children around -- (laughter) -- as far as I know, at least. Secondly, if that is true, it still doesn't make it right.
Let's -- if you give the people the entire argument, which I don't the analysis supports -- but if you did, what does that mean? It means that an important part of the equal pay battle should be strengthening the Family and Medical Leave Law, for example -- something I've been trying to do, without success, ever since we signed the first bill -- it ought to apply to more companies, it ought to be more extensive, it ought to cover more situations. You know, we've proved that we can do this without hurting the economy. And if you believe -- I mean, you know, if you believe that having children is a significant factor here, and if you believe, as I do, that's the most important work of any society, then why shouldn't we continue with something that's done so much good -- this family leave law -- to find other ways to do it, to find other incentives for flex time, just all kinds of things we could be doing if this is a problem?
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>>6461763
I'm sure they'll be back, everyone has a bad day every once in a while. And if not, I hope they find warm shelter somewhere out there.

>>6461780
U dem bois?
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>>6461747
If I know 4chan, most people who leave will come back eventually.

May just be a bad day. Some people can't handle little bouts of stress. Give 'em time anon.

If it helps, I ain't going anywhere any time soon.
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Now finally, let me say -- let's talk a little bit about what I think we can do about this right now. Earlier this year I asked Congress to pass two measures to strengthen our wage discrimination laws and to boost enforcement of existing ones. I ask Congress again to pass the $14 million equal pay initiative that's in our balanced budget, to help the EEOC identify and respond to wage discrimination; to educate employers and workers about their rights and responsibilities -- you'll hear some pretty impressive people talk about that on our panel in a moment; and to help bring more women into better paying jobs.
Again, I ask the Congress to pass the Pay Check Fairness Act, sponsored by Senator Daschle and Congresswoman DeLauro, which would put employers on notice that wage discrimination against women is just as unacceptable as discrimination based on race or ethnicity. Under current law, those who are denied equal pay because of race can seek compensatary (sic) -- compensatory and punitive damages. This new legislation would give women the same right. It will make a difference. It would protect employees who share salary information from retaliation. It would expand training for EEOC workers, strengthen research, establish an award for exemplary workers.
We can do more. Today I'm pleased to announce that we want to strengthen our legislation by requiring the EEOC to determine what new information on worker salaries they need to improve enforcement of wage discrimination laws and to find a way to collect that information. The new provision would call on the EEOC to issue a new rule within 18 months to gather, in the most effective and efficient way possible, pay data from companies based on race, sex and national origin of employees.
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>>6461796
Probably some fuckin japanese twitter post that'd be impossible to find now, I dunno
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denied equal pay because of race can seek compensatary (sic) -- compensatory and punitive damages. This new legislation would give women the same right. It will make a difference. It would protect employees who share salary information from retaliation. It would expand training for EEOC workers, strengthen research, establish an award for exemplary workers.
We can do more. Today I'm pleased to announce that we want to strengthen our legislation by requiring the EEOC to determine what new information on worker salaries they need to improve enforcement of wage discrimination laws and to find a way to collect that information. The new provision would call on the EEOC to issue a new rule within 18 months to gather, in the most effective and efficient way possible, pay data from companies based on race, sex and national origin of employees.
Addressing wage discrimination takes courage, as our panelists can tell you. It takes courage as an employee to speak out, to gather evidence, to make a case. It takes courage as an employer to recognize problems in pay equity and take steps to remedy them.
Just recently -- let me just mention the experience of one of our panelists -- we saw this courage among the administrators and women scientists at MIT, one of our country's most outstanding institutions of higher education.
Together they looked at the cold, hard facts about disparities in everything from lab space to annual salary. They sought to make things right, and they told the whole public the truth about it, which is a rare thing, and I appreciate what they did. I commend them. I hope their success and their example can be year, I ask you, every time you are in contact with any person in a position to vote on this in Congress or influence a vote on Congress, ask them this simple question: If we don't deal with this now, when will we ever get around to it?
Thank you very much. (Applause.)
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I also want to recognize the heroic contributions of Refugees International, an organization that is on the front lines of humanitarian disasters around the world. And they lost three relief workers in a terrible car accident this week in Albania, who were trying to reach the refugee camps.
Before I begin, I want to say a word about the terrible school shooting that occurred yesterday in Littleton, Colorado. I'm sure all of us are joined together in mourning the loss of so many young lives. And we are sending our prayers and sympathy to the families, the loved ones, the classmates of the victims and the entire community. It's hard to imagine this happening again. And at the extraordinary time that we heard about it, I think all of us hoped it were not true.
When we look into the eyes of our own children we cannot even imagine the fear that parents in Littleton must have felt waiting to find out if they had lost their children.
And it is very hard to just comfort a child who seeing it on television, is afraid. Imagine what it is like for the young people who saw their friends die before their eyes. Even if we cannot comprehend or imagine the magnitude of the pain that is filling the hearts of the people of Littleton, we can help with our prayers and our hopes by doing all that is possible to make sure the children there receive the counseling and support they need. Whatever medical and psychological help might be required.
CLINTON: And more than that we can, once again, recommit ourselves to insuring that all classrooms and schoolyards are filled with learning and the sounds of children who are enjoying the everyday give and take ek when she visited me, I could happening to the people of her country.
We are doing as much as we can to ease the suffering of the refugees, but we have a lot of work ahead of us. Some of you have seen first-hand what life is like in those camps as wave after wave of displaced
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>>6457816
>You wanted to be like nobby and Alec and chumpy and Mead, not sit around all day in bed!

what makes you think that's not exactly what I do all day
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>>6461780
Well you know who I was in the past. That and your kindness gives you away.
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people pour across the borders exhausted and hungry and sick, where international relief agencies are working desperately against time to prevent outbreaks of cholera and other diseases.
You also are aware that, in addition to the camps, there are tens of thousands of refugees being housed in homes in Macedonia and Albania by people who've taken those refugees in. Oftentimes, 20, 30 people living in one room. And those host families are also stretched to breaking point.
To help the people of Kosovo rebuild their lives, we know we have to work as a team at every level of government, in international relief agencies and other charitable organizations, in our businesses, our houses of worship and our communities.
Since the violence began, the United States has contributed more than $150 million in humanitarian aid including blankets, tents, water jugs and enough food to feed three quarters of a million people. A few weeks ago, I went to Dover Air Force Base and saw the service men and women who have literally been working around the clock loading the food onto pallets to be transported to reach the people of Kosovo.
CLINTON: This week the president called on Congress to pass his $6 billion proposal for an emergency aid package which includes nearly $800 million in humanitarian assistance.
The American people, as is the case when events to help. A woman from Indiana wrote asking whether there was anything the mothers of this country could do to help the mothers of Kosovo.
And another woman from Florida wrote we are so blessed in our beloved country and I really believe that the majority of Americans would like to help in some way, but don't really know how. Well there are ways for everyone to help.
USAID and FEMA are working together to make sure that Americans can do our part through a toll-free number, 800-USAID-RELIEF and the website www.info.USAID.gov. under the Kosovo listing.
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>>6461829
A cute slothy! How you doing Nobbo?
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All told, I believe NGOs have already received $25 million in cash in kind donations. This is setting, yet again, a new standard in corporate, indeed, international citizenship.
I cannot tell you how proud I am every time I travel around the world on behalf of our country and I see what American corporations are doing, not only to provide jobs which is the first and most important way to help any country, but also by setting an example of philanthropy and corporate citizenship that is literally helping to transform the way business is conducted and what can happen in a society.
That's why we want to encourage you to continue to be creative about ways you can make a difference. In a few minutes, we're going to find that cash contributions, as you'll hear from our speakers, are often the most effective way to help in an ever-changing situation.
But every donation counts and every donation is helping. I want to say a special word though about Macedonia and Albania, because here perhaps as much as any way, the business community in America and your counterparts in Europe and Japan and elsewhere can make a very big difference.
I just met with the Macedonian ambassador and representatives of the Macedonian government to hear first-hand the impact that this crisis is making on their economy and their country. I thank them on behalf of the president and the American people for what they are doing.
CLINTON: Because think about what it must mean to be in small, poor countries and having to deal with the tens of thousands, r of help and having all kinds of needs that must be met.
Macedonia, for example, is providing safe haven already for more than 100,000 refugees, but because of the conflict, it's trade routes through Serbia have been severed. Foreign companies are canceling contracts, thereby putting people out of work, particularly in the textile manufacturing sector because companies are concerned about continuing to do business in Macedonia given the instability there.
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Now when that happens that exasterbates enormously the strain on the government and the people of Macedonia. Oftentimes these contracts are being canceled at plants that are of considerable distance away from the refugee camps. They are often in plants that are in the center of the Albanian population in Macedonia which is attempting to being host families to take in a lot of refugees, but now people are loosing the jobs that they had that supported in the meager way the caring of these people because of these kinds of cancellations.
We cannot let this conflict derail the social, economic and political progress that Macedonia and its neighbors have struggled so hard and for so long to achieve. We also want to be sure that in so far as possible existing contracts and even new investments continue in the region.
And in addition, if there are ways of buying supplies from local producers and suppliers to supply both military and civilian relief needs, I hope we will do as much as we can to continue to boost the local economies in both Macedonia and Albania.
CLINTON: I think that those governments and those people need our support now, and they will continue to need our support in the future.
Because as we work and pray for peace, we cannot lose sight of the fact that there will be a lot of work to do if we are eventually to realize our goals of returning the Kosovars to Kosovo and the rebuilding the economies there, as well in the neighboring countries.
So thank you, thank you for what you've done and what you will do. It is a unique public/private partnership that is one of the hallmarks of the America experience that is not matched anywhere else in the world and has never been matched in history.
It's now my pleasure to introduce someone who's working very hard every day on making sure that our relief efforts are effective on the ground, and that's USAID Deputy Administrator, Hattie Babbitt.
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>>6461798
>I love everyone here. It makes me sad to theink they would leave and that they'd leave feeling so terrible.

"Leave feeling so terrible". Hold da fone. What happened while I was gone?

Also I love everyone here too. I know your pain bro. Like I'm saying, we're in this together.

>>6461806
>I'm sure they'll be back, everyone has a bad day every once in a while. And if not, I hope they find warm shelter somewhere out there.
There it is again. What happened? Did a fight break out while I was out?

>U dem bois?
WE DEM BOISSSS

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>>6461837
Oh shit is this Writeyote? What's going on buddy! Why are you having such a tough night?
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>>6461746
>>6461816
I am starting to truly love Glasses Fox.

Is there much Glasses Bun to balance it out?
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>>6461847
I just woke up
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(Applause.) Thank you all. Thank you. Please be seated.
And good afternoon. It's an honor to join the president in welcoming all of you to the White House this afternoon. We are especially honored to be joined by a very large number of senators and representatives from both parties who are here on the stage for this event; also Secretary Rubin and Attorney General Reno, Secretary Riley, Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, Undersecretary of the Treasury Jim Johnson. And you will hear in just a few minutes from Senator Feinstein, Senator Chafee, Representative Conyers, Representative McCarthy. Also in the audience is Mayor Paul Helmke from Fort Wayne, Indiana, and Bob Walker, president of Handgun Control, Inc.
We have come together in the wake of a terrible tragedy that has put our entire nation in mourning and that was reminded all of us once again that everything in life pales in comparison to our ability to keep our children safe and out of harm's way. Today our thoughts and prayers remain with the families and friends and the citizens of Littleton as they bid emotional farewells to their beloved children and a dedicated teacher. Yet, even in the midst of this terrible tragedy, we also see the people of Littleton pulling together to pray and comfort and sustain each other, and many of the rest of us are gathering strength and hope from their example.
There are many people here today, out in the audience and on this stage, who have worked tirelessly to create the safe scho children.
I also want to thank all the memb
There are many others in th swers to what happened in Littleton. I don't know that anyone will ever be able to explain fully the events of a week ago. Nor, I doubt, can we create a perfect set of solutions that, if followed, would have prevented wh
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>>6461860
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And soon we will have the V-chip available for every home in our country.
But it will take more than strong leadership from the media and entertainment world to stop the culture of violence that surrounds our children. Kids need more caring, responsible adults in their lives, yet when single parenthood and two working parents are on the rise, too many of America's children are growing up alone. Parents are the central figures in their children's lives, but parents need help. They need help from the larger community, and that means all of us -- teachers, police, counselors, community and religious leaders, elected officials. All of us have to help parents find the help they need, and we have to work together to keep our children and our communities safe.
We also know that we have to do everything possible to ensure that young people do not have easy access to weapons. We now know that includes not only firearms but bomb-making materiel.
Now any one of us who hasn't become completely amnesiac about our own growing-up years know that children will have disagreements and arguments. They sometimes will even have fights among themselves. Part of growing up is learning how to control one's impulses, which is often difficult for young people. But there is a very big difference between a schoolyard fight that many of us can remember and what happens today, with the access to the arsenal of guns, rifles, and bombs that the two young men in Littleton were able to bring into their school.
It is criminal how easy it is for children in we lose the equivalent of a classroom of students.
"Guns" and "children" are two words that should never be put together in the same sentence, and this president and this administration have been working hard and successfully to try to keep them apart. I
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>>6461862
Yeah it's me. Honestly I don't know why I'm feeling down. Had a near perfect day.
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>>6461874
You wacky sloths, what would yer mum say?!
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>>6461869
Well, I mean, technically yes, but not exactly what you meant, I think
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>>6460879
All the doomposting and people bringing up horrible things happening in the past and this stupid argument about discord. I shouldn't have gotten drunk.
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And then I thought of all the victims in the last number of years that have lost someone. And here we are, talking about what can we do.
I have to tell you it's extremely frustrating, because we are faced with silence all the time. We're hearing from the other side already: "There is nothing we can do." I'm sorry, you have heard of so many proposals; there IS something we can do. There has to be something that we can do. (Applause.)
All of us here, every single one of us here -- and, believe me, a lot more -- are willing to fight for the American people. We're willing to fight for our children.
But you know what's going to happen? We'll go to committee, and there will be silence as the shootings go on. When we go to the speaker of the House and beg for a debate on the floor, there will be silence, and the shootings will go on.
We will fight for you, but I have to tell you, the American public's voice has to be heard. We have to hear from you. (Applause.)
"It's not going to work." Is that what you want to keep hearing? "It's not going to work. You can't do it." Please.
We're burying our children in Colorado, and tomorrow we'll be burying 13 more, and the day after that we will be burying 13 more -- every single day. Do we have to have a larger mass of killings for America to say, "Enough is enough"? Please don't let that happen.


Please, I'm asking everyone out there, call your representative. Let's hear from you. Give us the strength to keep fighting. Give us the power to win, because I have to tell you something I've learned in the very short time since I've been here in Congress: When enough people outside of Washington start calling into Washington, wow, people start listening. "Gee, maybe we should look at this."
Think about HMOs. Why are we even talking about it in Congre Don't say that Congress can't do anything. You can make Congress do something.
President Clinton was the
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I'm a nurse. Let's talk about what it's costing our health care. Because we've seen homicides go down -- and that's wonderful -- can we talk about the billions of dollars it's costing us because more of our young people are surviving? I know Secretary Riley would like that money for his education. I know the president would like that money for health care.
We can do this, people. We can do this, but you got to help us. I don't want to hear at the next violent shooting, "We can't do anything." I've heard it too many times in the last two years. We have to have your voices. Don't say that Congress can't do anything. You can make Congress do something.
President Clinton was there for my family when my husband was killed, and he tried to make this a safer nation, and he has. And I want to thank him for calling me or taking my call the night of last Tuesday, because I have to be honest with you; I didn't want to hear about another shooting. And I said to the president, "We have to do something." When he responded, the pain that was in his voice was so real, because he does feel the pain of the families and the children that have died, and he has seen too much. And I want to thank him for his dedication.
This is not an issue that politicians really like to push, believe me.


But the president has been on the forefront, and I want to thank him for helping me to initiate all the bills that are here and all the initiatives that we're going to take. And I'm certainly going to be fighting for the Children's Safety Protection Bill, because that's my job. No, all of us.
The large-capacity clips, some say that wouldn't work. Well, tell that to the three young people that died on the Long Island Railroad if there was only 10 clips -- 10 bullets in a clip instead of the larger clips. Child safety locks. Tell that to C
Thank you very wo senators who culture arguments, and talk about
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two cultures that exist in America, and say that I think this in the end is going to come down to what our conception of America as a community is and what our responsibilities to one another are.

I want to begin by saying that a lot of people have made remarkable contributions, I think, to this effort to get us to look at the violence of our culture and how it makes the most vulnerable of our children, without regard to their income or their social status, closer to the line of taking violent action, and how it complicates family life for everyone. I want to thank Hillary for what she's done. I also want to thank Al and Tipper Gore, who have done enormously important work on this for years to try to help us deal with the TV issues, the ratings, the V chips, and now the new efforts we've been making with the Internet community to give parents some more control over that, and the efforts we'll have to make to train the parents to figure out to do it, since their kids all know more about it than they do.
But this is very important stuff. In June, Tipper Gore's going to host our White House Conference on Mental Health, and the attorney general and Hillary and I were just talking about some of the things we can do to help to make sure that all of our schools have the adequate mentoring and mediation and even mental health services our kids need. All this is very important. And we have to deal with that.
But if you believe that we have special cultural challenges, it seems to me that that's an argument that we ought to bend over backwards to try to remove the opportunities for bad things happening if we have more kids that are vulnerable to doing those things, not an argument that we ought to say, well, we should walk away from that and just try to make sure everybody individually in the whole country never does anything wrong.
And what's the real problem here? The problem is we have a sed ort shooting culture in Am a can on a fence r
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And the voters had not had enough time, which they did have within two more years, to see that nobody was going to take their gun away.
So we have more than one cultural problem here, and I want to make a plea to everybody who is waiting for the next deer season in my home state to think about this in terms of what our reasonable obligations to the larger community of America are.
Do we know for absolutely certain that if we'd had every reasonable law than the ones I'm going to propose here, that none of these school violence things would have happened? No. But we do know one thing for certain; we know there would have been fewer of them, and there would have been fewer kids killed in the last several years in America. We know that for certain. (Applause.) We know that.
And cultures are hard to change, and cultures should never be used to avoid individual responsibility. But we -- when we get to where we change, then we wonder -- we look back, and we say, "How could we have ever done it otherwise?"
Let me ask you something. Next time you get on an airplane, think about how you'd feel if the headline in the morning paper right before you got on the airplane was, "Airport metal detectors and x-ray machines abolished as infringement on Americans' constitutional right to travel." Think about it. That's the headline in the morning paper. Then right next to it there's another headline: "Terrorist groups expanding operations in the United States." And you read the two headlines, and you're getting on the airplane, exercising your constitutional right to travel, which is now no longer "infringed" by the fact that you might have to go through the metal detector twice and take out your money clip or take off your heavily metaled belt, and that somebody is x-raying your luggage as it gets on the airplane. It's unthinkable now, isn't it?


This will become unthinkable, too, that we should ever mak ou didn't agree. But somebody needs to
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tent, you know? (Applause.)
I have had to go to through those metal detectors as many as three times back when I had a real life -- (laughter) -- and I was traveling around because I had all kinds of stuff in there. You know, and every time I started to get a little aggravated, I'd think, "Boy, I don't want that plane to blow up." (Laughter.) You know? Make me go through a dozen times if you want to, and the person behind me.
Now, we've got to think about this in that way. These are the folks we have to reach. When there are no constituents for this movement, the movement will evaporate. When people from rural Pennsylvania and rural West Virginia and rural Colorado and Idaho start calling their congressmen and saying, "Hey, we can live with this. We can live with this. This is no big deal, you know? I mean, we're just out there doing what we do. We believe -- we'll gladly put up with an extra hassle, a little wait, a little this, a little that, because we want to save several thousand kids a year."
That is my challenge to you. (Applause.) That is what is going on.
Now here are the things we want to do. A lot of you won't think they're enough, but you remember the culture. You change the culture, we'll change the laws. You change the message, we'll do it. And none of them have anything to do with anybody's legitimate right to hunt.
First of all, we ought to strengthen the Brady law. (Applause.) It's kept 250,000 felons, fugitives, and stalkers from guns. The states now have the Insta-Check (sp) system, which is good. The mandatory waiting period has expired; that's bad, because we need it, in addition to the Insta-Check (sp) system, to give a cooling-off period to people who are in a fit of rage. It's important.
The law that we would present, the act, will also prevent juveniles who commit violent crimes from ever buying a gun. It would apply the Brady l .)
And it wo ed to go make this case on this gun show deal. I don;'t know how many of
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>>6461897
>Yeah it's me. Honestly I don't know why I'm feeling down. Had a near perfect day.

Well damn bro. That's no good! I don't want my writebuddy to feel down. Did it just happen out of the blue? You haven't been drinking, right?

>>6461926
O damn. I have a message for you all

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0PAbBnu0TLF
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>>6461869
Lil bit.

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>>6461702
They range b& me when I spammed the catalog .Have they revoked your 4chan pass yet?
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>>6461862
Just people letting the spammer get to them I guess.
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And so we have to say -- we haven't asked you to abolish your gun shows, but we've asked you to undergo the inconvenience necessary to save more lives. We don't have to be insensitive, we just have to be determined. But I'm telling you, if we don't do something about this gun show loophole, we're going to continue to have serious, serious problems. And it's very important. (Appaluse.)
The second thing we've got to do is to strengthen the assault weapons ban, to close the loophole that allows dealers to sell older high-capacity ammunition magazines manufactured abroad. Now, I bet you when Senator Feinstein was talking about this, you thought, "Now, who in the world could be against this?" I actually had a conversation with a member of Congress who said to me -- serious, a good person, who's a really good person -- when we were doing this back in '94, a really good person, this person I was talking to, who told me -- (laughter) -- let me tell you -- I just want you to understand what the argument was -- he said, "But you've got to understand, we've got people who use these bigger magazines for certain kinds of sport contests."
And I said, "Well, so what?" (Laughter.) But he said, "They'll beat me if I vote for this." I said, "They'll beat you if they think all you're doing is making their life miserable because some Washington bureaucrat asked you to do it. If you can explain to them that it's worth a minor alteration in their sporting habits to save people's lives, they won't beat you."
But my point is, you've got to help these people. See, you hear this, and you think, "God, this is a no-brainer, this is a hundred-to- nothing deal, who in the wide world could ever be" -- you have to understand, there is another culture out there, and almost everybody in it is God fearing, law abiding, tax paying, and they show up when they're needed, and they don't like this because they don't understand that if they do w magazines.
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child safety locks to be sold with all new guns. (Applause.)
Finally, it would crack down on illegal gun trafficking, doubling the number of cities now working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to trace every gun seized by the police. I know this is very important to Congresswoman McCarthy. (Applause.) It would require that dealers submit information not only on the guns they sell, but on used guns which are often very hard for law enforcement agents to trace. It would significantly increase penalties for gun runners caught trafficking large numbers of firearms. It would establish a national system, as soon as it's feasible, to limit handgun purchases to one a month, following the lead of Virginia. (Applause.)
You know, I've got to say, this is very interesting. When we were going over the list of things we wanted to propose, some people said, "Well, that might be a loser because it sounds to people who care about this like that's too many, and, you know, what is this?" You know, the states that have had big problems in the past with lots of illegal gun purchases and guns then being used for illegal purposes -- Virginia did this and it really helped them. This was a big deal. And, I just talked to Senator Robb about this a couple of days ago, and he said, "You know, all I can tell you is it's working in our state." So I would ask you to seriously consider what this might mean for our efforts to control the law enforcement aspects of this.
So, these are the things that I wanted to say. But I hope you'll remember what I said to you about the culture. We do have to keep working on the culture. Hillary's right about it, Al and Tipper Gore are right about it. We've got a lot of responsibilities. We've got to keep working on the services that kids -- we've even got to work on with their parents about what happened in Littleton, and only ts we were going to talk
And t on to take on all these gun issues all t
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>>6461897
Do not be sad! You are a cool duder and a writefriend to boot!
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Well, I think my overwhelming impression was that what had happened to these people, the Kosovars, is just unforgivable and unforgettable. We have to do everything we can to enable them to return home in peace and in safety.
And I heard a lot of stories. You know, it's very hard when you're talking with people who you never met before, and you feel almost like you're intruding, but they want to tell you about what it felt like when they lost their children -- their hands were pulled away in a crowd of people being pushed by Serb police to get on trains, or when they, all of a sudden, were pushed from their home, and a husband loses a wife because she was visiting her father.
I heard so many stories in such a short period of time, and they confirmed what I've already heard from refugees in the United States and in London, and what I knew to be the case from other reports.
So I was very much saddened by what I heard and what I see happening, but also very sure that we are doing the right thing to try to enable these people to have a life and to end this century on a note of commitment to human rights in Europe.
AMANPOUR: Many people are saying that success in this mission is basically what happened to those refugees; success will be defined by getting them back.
What can you say to those people who say that it's gone on for a longg the right thing to try to enable these people to have a life and to end this century on a note of commitment to human rights in Europe.
AMANPOUR: Many people are saying that success in this mission is basically what happened to those refugees; success will be defined by getting them back.
What can you say to those people who say that it's gone on for a longg the right thing to try to ena g them back.
What can you say to those people who say that it's gone on for a long time, and we are really worrying now?
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>>6461979
>Just people letting the spammer get to them I guess.

You gotta shirk that shit. Unless you haven't spent that long on 4chan, this oughta be second nature. Learn to filter out the garbage.

>The filename

REEEEEE
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Well, let me answer that first generally and then specifically. Starting with the Beijing conference in 1995, we made it very clear that women's role and participation and rights were something that were important to democracy and economic advancement, and both of those were in America's interest. And certainly with Secretary Albright becoming secretary of state, she and I both spoke at the State Department and made clear that as a matter of American foreign policy, we wanted to support women's objectives and rights around the world.
Now what that has meant is that we have seen issues a little differently than we used to. We understand that if women are denied education and participation, it's less likely that the society in which they reside will be a stable one or a friendly one. If women do not have access to the full range of economic opportunities, then it's less likely their societies will be economically successful. That's something that's been proven time and again.
And on specific issues where we have encountered gross abuses of women's rights, such as the trafficking of women as though they were pieces of goods, or more sinisterly as drugs, we've spoken out against that as a nation -- that has been raised in bilateral conversations. And specifically with the Taliban and their very gross mistreatment and denial of rights to women, we've made it clear that that regime would not be recognized until it took steps to include women as citizens -- as human beings.
The secretary has memorably said, and I have repeated it on many occasions, that the kind of violence and discrimination against women that we see still too often around the world can no longer be excused as cultural, it needs to be called what it is: it is criminal. And it is something that the United States has a vested interest in recognizing and including as part of the way we evaluate our positions around the world.
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Well, I think that it is very practical to look at the human needs of people around the world and factor those into foreign policy. Certainly during our Cold War years we were forced to sweep a lot of human rights abuses and denial of development and other matters under the rug, if you will, because we had a very specific objective, and that was to protect ourselves against Soviet expansionism, and to do everything we could to prevent countries and societies from falling prey to that.
Now that we no longer face that kind of threat, I think it is practical to see the world in a different way. Certainly our values remain the same, but if we want to have the United States be respected and recognized, as it now is, as the leader of the world, if we want to have friends and partners in every area from commerce to strategic involvement, then I believe we have to recognize the legitimate aspirations of the people in the societies with which we wish to do business.
So I don't view that as impractical. In fact, I view it as a long overdue practical assessment. Realpolitik, of course, means that we look at how countries are strategically located, and what our interests with them are, and how we balance them, but we now know that with the explosion of information, and with a continuing clamor for individual rights from all different kinds of groups -- not just women, but many ethnic, religious, racial groups -- it would be shortsighted of the United States not to factor that into our calculations.
So when I go around the world and I advocate for girls education, for example, it is because we have evidence and reason to believe that well-educated populations are more likely to understand and deal with the challenges of today and tomorrow, and therefore more likely to be involved in relationships that are positive with the United States.
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Who draw this?
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Good morning, and please be seated. And thank you for joining us today in the Rose Garden as we continue a national conversation about how to address the problems of youth violence in our communities and schools.
I want to thank everyone for coming this morning. And I'd like to acknowledge Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee, Mayor Deedee Corradini, Mayor Timothy Kane (sp), and County Executives Wayne Curry and Charles Rupersburger. In addition to the chairman of the FTC, whom you will hear from in a minute -- Robert Pitofsky -- we also have Commissioner Sheila Anthony and Commissioner Mozelle Thompson. I'm also pleased that Pamela Eakes, who led the very innovative group, Mothers Against Violence in America, has worked with us on this event, as she has on past events that are also part of our efforts to try to create ways in which every American can take his or her part in doing whatever we can against youth violence.
As a nation, we've reacted to the shootings at Columbine High School like almost no other event I can remember in recent memory. It has literally pierced the heart of America. Yet in my conversations with young people and parents over the past few weeks, I've heard less talk about people feeling helpless or hopeless and more about a growing consensus that finger-pointing doesn't lead to solutions and that we have to move forward together to take steps to end the violence, not only in our schools, but in our broader community, and that it is time, some might say past time, that we all play a role in making a positive difference in the lives of our children.
I want to thank the attorney general and the chair of the FTC for joining us today, as well as the many parents, educators, religious leaders, members of the media, and stude ashington.
I think all of us reco , "We know that children imitate and learn from everyt ic directly the actions they see or to act generally in a more aggressive way.
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>>6461972
I don't really drink, so no. Just geuss I feel like this year slipped by.

>>6461996
Thanks dude! If you're the anon who request the fic it's really coming along!
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>when the thread is posting faster than the spammer can spam
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I believe deeply in forgiveness and reconciliation, on an individual basis and on a societal one, as well. And, I think forgiveness is an ongoing effort and challenge, and it is something that I think about and engage in nearly every day -- on little matters, as well as the obvious large ones. And I feel very committed to that kind of life. And so, for me, it is a choice that I make about how I wish to live my life, and I'm very gratified that my husband and I have a very strong relationship and a lot of understanding of one another and a great commitment to each other and that we both appreciate the role that forgiveness has to play in anyone's life. Part of it is our religious faith and part of it is just our experience of human nature and how one always has to be ready to forgive if one wants to go on and live without bitterness and hope.
I was thinking about that today in this refugee camp. I thought about it when I went to Bosnia. These people will confront much more difficult challenges to their capacity to forgive: seeing loved ones killed, losing track of children maybe never to see them again. And yet, I think they understands, as I do, that life is always unpredictable and often unfair, and yet we have to make the decision every day, will we live it with hope or not?
You know, a few weeks ago, Elie Wiesel spoke at the White House, and I'd asked him to speak more than a year ago -- long before we knew what would be happening here in the Balkans -- and he spoke on the perils of indifference. And in that speech, he, of course, reminded us of the worst atrocities of the century in the Holocaust, but he also spoke movingly about what was happening here in the Balkans. he was asked how on earth could he advocate hopefulne has a choice. You kn efore Thanksgiving. We have so much to be thankful for in the United States. And he said, you know, there are people in my own family who need to forgive each other.
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Eh, they'll get over it I'm sure.
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>>6462036
>I don't really drink, so no. Just geuss I feel like this year slipped by.

Slipped by? As in unfulfilled?
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Yet today, more than 25 years after this report was written, our culture is even more saturated with TV programs, movies and songs that romanticize and glorify violence. What kind of values are we promoting when a child can walk into a store and find video games where you win based on how many people you can kill or how many places you can blow up?
We can no longer ignore the well-documented connection between violence in the media and the effects that it has on children's behavior. One study has found, for example, that if an actor is rewarded for violent behavior, children are more likely to imitate it. Another tells us that media violence has a particularly negative effect on children who already have a tendency toward aggressive or anti-social behavior. According to the American Psychiatric Association, viewers of violence not only become desensitized and fearful, they begin to identify with an aggressive solution to their own personal problems.
America's culture of violence is having a profound effect on our children, and we have to resolve to do all we can to change that culture. One of the ways that we can do that is to give parents the tools they need to control what their own children are exposed to, and we've already moved forward in that direction. Today's announcement is another important step in the fight against violence.
We know there is a lot of work to be done, but I am encouraged that so many leaders and citizens are coming together and talking honestly, not only about the challenges we face, but what we have to do together to meet those challenges.
I am particularly heartened that as a result of the meeting the president convened at the White House a few weeks ago there was general agreement from a broad cross-section of Americans that we would launch a national grassroots campaign to prevent y te safe schools and communities, our attorney general, Janet Reno. (Applause.)
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>>6462026
my guess it's Iji
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JOKER TELL US A FUCKING JOKE
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I kinda feel like writing comf greentext. Give me a prompt and I might do it.
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ATTY GEN. JANET RENO: Thank you, Mrs. Clinton. Thank you for all that you've done to speak out, so strongly and with such effect, to protect our children.
The impact of media violence on children is one piece of a larger concern: the reduction and prevention of violence in society. We have made very real and substantial progress in recent years in reducing violent behavior in children and adolescents, but we've got to do much more, and we must learn much more about the problem. Recent tragic events have focused the nation's attention on a few very violent children and adolescents.
Children should have a chance to grow and develop in strong and healthy and positive ways. Promoting healthy development will require us to protect children from certain violent images which they're not developmentally prepared to handle. Very young children are unable to distinguish fact from fiction. Too often today children are exposed to images and messages that glamorize violence and minimize its consequences. Numerous studies have shown that violent programming can promote violent tendencies in children. Media violence can increase children's aggression towards others. Such programming can have a particularly negative effect on children who already vulnerable.
Advertising which uses violent images or encourages children to seek out violent content can also be damaging. Research demonstrates that until the age of 7, children are unaware of the persuasive content of advertising. Even after age 7, children and adolescents are still vulnerable to peer and status appeals, without being able to determine whether responding to those appeals will result in healthy lifestyle choices.
We want to work with the entertainment industry and not against it. We hope to improve the industry's knowledge base so that it too can make better choices that are in the interest -- the best interest -- of parents and children. We encourage the media
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>>6461976
not yet...

We now need to know more about how children learn about the existence and the content of violent materials and why they are drawn to them, whether it be movies or video games.
It is my pleasure now to introduce Robert Pitofsky, chairman of the Federal Trade Commission. In the coming months, our agencies intend to work very closely together to expand our knowledge about the role of advertising in exposing children to violent entertainment materials. (Applause.)
MR. PITOFSKY: Thank you, Madame Attorney General.
I think it should be obvious already that we are here, representatives of consumer groups, business groups and government, because of a shared concern, a perception that there are increasing instances of senseless violence involving young people -- recent events show that to be true -- and that something needs to be done about it. We can't just observe it and talk about it; we need to take some actions.
Our particular focus today is on concerns about the violent nature of too many video games, movies and recordings currently available to young people that have a violent content. In considering that issue, however, we must remember two points:
First, we must recognize that concerns about the content of these products arise in an area of artistic expression and that they border on areas protected by the First Amendment against government intrusion. And we would hope to keep that in mind.
Second, we recognize that the motion picture industry, the video game and recording industries have recognized these concerns and have each implemented voluntary systems to rate the appropriateness of products for their children. These ratings provide parents with valuable information to judge what products are appropriate
egulation is the advertising community and the work of its Child munity in an effort to reach common ground on what we all recognize is a shared problem. We hope we can do that again here and reach that kind of result again.
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>>6462036
I am that Anon! And I'm glad to hear that, can't wait to read what you've got going on! Threads already dropped both bunsamurai pics so have a bun chinning instead.
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>>6462059
Fox and Bun braving a bad storm on their way to go cuddle.
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>>6462059
Nick learns massage from the vixen triplets, just because Judy complains now and then about sore feet and stiff shoulders.
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the ZPD has a sport event against the ZFD
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I thank Mayor Corradini, Mayor Kane (sp), County Executive Curry and County Executive Dutch Rupesburger (sp) for the interest that our local government leaders have. I thank Representative Sheila Jackson- Lee for her passionate commitment to this issue and all of you, welcome to the White House.
And most of all, I want to say again how much I appreciate Arthur Saway (sp) for coming here and for sharing a child's perspective. We have other children in this audience today, and we are really here about them and their future.
As Hillary said, the tragedy at Littleton had a profound effect on America. It certainly had a profound effect on us and on our family, particularly after we had the chance to go to Colorado and visit with the families of the children who were killed and many of the young children who are still grievously wounded and the kids at the school with them, who are hurting still, and the teachers.
I do think that what Hillary said is right. We sense a determination, not only in that community but throughout our country, not just to grieve about this but to do something about it. The national grassroots campaign against violence against children is rooted in our faith that we can do better. We know we can prevent more youth violence if we work together across all the lines that divide us. We know we can do it if we are all willing to assume responsibility and stop trying to assign blame.
Of course, the responsibility begins at home. It must be reinforced and supported at school and houses of worship and the community as a whole. Those of us in public service must also do our part. There is broad and growing consensus for u the agenda, and not put on hold. now that by the time the typical American child reaches the age of 18, he or she has seen 200,000 dramatized acts of violence and 40,000 dramatized murders. Kids become attracted to it and more numb to its consequences. As
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Now, 30 years of studies have shown that this desensitizes our children to violence and to the consequences of it. We now know that by the time the typical American child reaches the age of 18, he or she has seen 200,000 dramatized acts of violence and 40,000 dramatized murders. Kids become attracted to it and more numb to its consequences. As their exposure to violence grows, so in some deeply troubling cases of particularly vulnerable children, does the taste for it.
We should not be surprised that half the video games a typical seventh-grader plays are violent. Anyone who doubts the impact of the cultural assault can look at what now, over 30 years, amounts to somewhere over 300 studies, all of whom show that there is a link between sustained exposure -- hour after hour, day after day, week after week, year after year -- to violent entertainment and violent behavior.
What the studies say quite simply is that the boundary between fantasy and reality violence, which is a clear line for most adults, can become very blurred for vulnerable children. Kids steeped in the culture of violence do become desensitized to it and more capable of committing it themselves.
That is why I have strongly urged people in the entertainment industry to consider the consequences of what they create and how they advertise it. One can value the First Amendment right to free speech and at the same time care for and act with restraint. Our administration has worked to give parents more tools to protect their kids, to block violent programming from entering their living room, with the V-chip and the rating system. We have made progress on parental screening for Internet and ratings for Internet game sites.
Still, when violent entertainment made for adults is marketed to children, it undermines the rating system designed to protect them. And if you look at some of these ads, it's
Advertisements have a particular role here. They have the power to egg children on and lure them in. Every p
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enough to mark it for me. There really is a gun here it says, "More fun than shooting your neighbor's cat."
I was given another ad that says, "What kind of psycho drives a school bus into a war zone?" And here's a school bus heavily armed. This came out right after the incident in Springfield, Oregon.
Here's an ad that turns the argument I just made on its head: "Psychiatrists say it's important to feel something when you kill." And then it goes on to say you ought to get this technology because it "buffs and you feel it." It says, "Every sensation, every vibration, every mutilation. Nine programmable weapons buttons. Customizable feedback software. Push the stick that pushes back and feel your pain."
And here's one, the most unbelievable, it says, "Kill your friends, guilt free."
Now, obviously Arthur has the inner strength and the good upbringing to reject that kind of violent appeal. Most of our children do. But not all of our children do. We cannot be surprised when this kind of thing has an impact on our most vulnerable children. Is it 100 percent to blame? No. It's easier to get guns in this society. Parents, on average, spend 22 hours a week less with their children than they did 30 years ago because of the demands of work and commuting, the busyness of daily life. But when you put it all together, there are bound to be explosive, negative consequences.
That's why today I am asking the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission to study the extent to which the video game, music and movie markets do actually market violence to children, and whether those industries are abiding by their own voluntary systems and regulations.

To any company that s
I might say, again, as has alr ew days ago actually cancelled a program because its violent content was inappropriate, and I applaud that.
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>>6461972
I'm glad you came back, Clunk.

I hope someday everyone checks back to see whether we're still here, and is welcomed with open arms.
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ratings systems themselves should be reevaluated.
I want to thank Senators Brownback, Lieberman, Hatch, and Kohl for the bipartisan work they have done on this issue.
Again, I want to commend State Representative Mary Lou Dickerson (sp) from Washington, who read about young Arthur, helped to create a task force on video game violence. And thanks to her work with Pam and the Mothers Against Violence in America, and the Washington Retailers Association, all -- who are all represented here today, video game retailers in Washington state now voluntarily sign a pledge to parents, committing themselves to check IDs and block sales of violent games to minors. That's something that ought to happen in every state in the United States of America. (Applause.)
Again, I say, we can do something about this. It will take a grass-roots campaign. It will take everybody doing his or her part. This is a problem we face together, a problem America can solve together. There is no more urgent task for our future.
You were all looking at this young man speaking today, thinking, "What a wonderful thing that a person that young could speak so clearly, so confidently about things that are so right." You look around at the other young people here today, who are involved in this effort in some way or another, and you thank God that we have this legacy of children.


A lot of those kids that haven't made it through all these school violence incidents were just as good, just as fine, had just as much to give the world.
We have got to quit fooling around with this. We have got a chance. Our hearts are open, our ea good, just as fine, had just as much to give the world.
We have got to quit fooling around with this. We have got a chance. Our hearts are open, our ears are open, our heads are thinking. I know this stuff sells, but that doesn't make it right.
Thank you. And God bless you. (Applause.)
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>>6462081
I doubt I could match how funny the fic with that idea already is.
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>>6462059
Bun bun and the fox playing pool? Maybe they're gambling for certain snuggle privileges?
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three teachers, 13 students, and 71 books in the library. One, do you remember "Paradise Lost" --
MRS. CLINTON: Plutarch's "Lives."
SEN. MOYNIHAN: Plutarch's "Lives," "A Life in Essays," of Franklin, "A Pilgrim's Progress." We haven't necessarily advanced in some -- in our educational reading assignments since 1856, but then, they still help.
Now, I have the great pleasure to welcome Mrs. Clinton to the farm and to turn over the microphone to our candidate. Before you do -- before I do -- and my God, I almost forgot -- yesterday Hillary Clinton established an exploratory committee as regards candidacy for the Senate, United States Senate, from New York, a seat which I will vacate in a year and a half.

I'm here to say that I hope she will go all the way. I mean to go all the way with her. I think she's going to win. I think it's going to be wonderful for New York, and we'll be proud of our senator, and the nation will notice.
And so here is that very same person. (Applause.)
MRS. CLINTON: Well, I want to thank Senator Moynihan and my friend Liz Moynihan for welcoming me and a few of my friends and associates here to their farm. I'm very grateful for their friendship and their hospitality and their support. It means a great deal to me to stand here with someone whom I admire so much.
You know, I'm starting a listening tour of New York, and I thought it only proper that I start by listening to probably the wisest New Yorker that we can know of at this time. And -- (applause) --
SEN. MOYNIHAN: Neighbors -- (great deal to me to stand here with someone whom I admire so much.
You know, I'm starting a listening tour of New York, and I thought it only proper that I start by listening to probably the wisest New Yorker that we can know of at this time. And -- (applause) --
SEN. MOYNIHAN: Neighbors -- (off mike). (Laughter.)
MRS. CLINTON: And his neighbors agree!
MS. : (Me, too ?).
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>>6462068
Well it's not samurai themed at all, more of a medieval fairy tail. It seems to need at least three chapters, expect the first in about a week at the very most
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>>6462109
>I'm glad you came back, Clunk.
I'm glad to be back. Life just gets in the way sometimes, you know?

>I hope someday everyone checks back to see whether we're still here, and is welcomed with open arms.
I hope to welcome them back
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>>6461972
what a faggot, one day i'll gonna find you and rape you...
Senator Schumer, how long do you think it's going take to--to get this repaired? It's just astonishing. I mean, people are talking about a new Marshall Plan to rebuild Lower Manhattan. But as I just watched Byron this morning, you realize what an enormous task this is.
Senator CHARLES SCHUMER (Democrat, New York): It is a huge, huge task. It's--there's so much. Just yesterday, I heard that many of our subway lines can't run because they were either cracked or flooded or suffered structural damage. Our electricity grid system, which is so interconnected in New York, has trouble, the telephone system, and then the rebuilding is just enormous. We have lost, Bob, 30 million square feet of office space. That's the equivalent of 150,000 job places, you know, p--pla--places for people to work. It is a huge, huge task.
The one good thing I would say, New Yorkers are amazingly resilient. The scenes that we have seen, Hillary and I have seen, as we go throughout the city are just amazing. Both the grief that is shared by everybody. I just went back to my local neighborhood yesterday. I spent some time. I found at the local school, four kids have parents missing. The local firehouse, 11 missing. Every street has somebody s--missing. But at the same time, we are so dedicated to building our city back, the city we love, the world city, the international city, and we will, but it's going to take awhile, and it's going to take a lot of money. And we're so grateful that President Bush and the Senate and House, both parties united and really are helping us 100 percent. There's been no stinting.
SCHIEFFER: And I know both of you, Senator Clinton, had your own turmoil and--and angst, because as I understand it, Senator Clinton, you did not know for several hours where Chelsea was. Senator Schumer did not know where some of his children were.
Sen. SCHUMER: That's right.
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Hey, Nameless Lewder,

If you're out there, are you drawing something for TT? Could be fun to see your stuff.
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>>6462117
>certain snuggle privileges
Like who gets to be the big spoon?
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>>6462136
>what a faggot, one day i'll gonna find you and rape you...
How hard daddy?
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>>6462131
I look forward to it!
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>>6462145
Maybe a little tail touching?
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>>6462144
What's particularly lewd about fantasy?
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>>6462042
This one always looks like fucking guro in the thumbnail.
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There goes the range ban
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>>6462236
Well, I'm glad its not.
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>>6462216
sex/fertility rituals
using sexual wile to entrap/entice a brave adventurer
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>>6462216
Replenish mana by sex.
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>>6462216
Its situational. Maybe Judy has Bucky and Pronk waiting on her, fanning her and feeding her grapes Dionysus style. Sleeping Bunny, to be awoken with a kiss and some dox fick. There was a tale of a hero who had a magical house with 365 rooms, with a different wife behind each. Plenty of lewd ideas.

Or it could be cool to see them go nonlewd.
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>>6462304
>There was a tale of a hero who had a magical house with 365 rooms
wasn't that in the 1001 Arabian nights?
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Buns and foxes in armor
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>>6462369
Jesus
Catanon is already getting weird lewd art.
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>>6462369
I'm sure it will update any day now
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>>6462396
It updated the first of this month though
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>>6462344
I think it was. IIRC it was a sad story, too. He had to not go into one room, and he did, and basically his entire life got fucked.
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>>6462423
Looks like the same comic page to me
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>>6462185
I love everything about this image
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>>6462276
>>6462304
Well I wanna say those are more like ideas than something intrinsic to the genre. Not that there's a problem with that.

And of course, it's not like Nameless Leader HAS to do something lew-

>>6462296
This I can get behind.
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>>6462446
I was being facetious
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>>6462454
I need more cute tail pics
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>>6462460
Okay
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I hope Boney's doing better.
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>>6462495
I hope so too, he is a cool guy.
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Nobbo! I went to sleep before you posted this! Thank you for doing my request.
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Jack on the run while protecting one of Judy's siblings when
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Noght guys! Hope y'all have comfy thanksgiving!
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>>6462477
Hope Zhan's doing good too out there.
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>>6462547
Is that martina?
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>>6462574
You too buddy!
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>>6462578
It is, request was Martina getting glazed.
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New thread when?
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Close enough to image limit for me

>>6462590

>>6462590

>>6462590
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>>6462588
It's a cute request!
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>>6462599
Hey why do we keep changing from Zootopia general to thread and vice versa anyway?
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>>6462613
Just depends on who makes the thread and what they call it.
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>>6462647
Alright, just odd seeing it change all the time.
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>>6462648
This is a good bun bun

>>6462659
And this is a cutie tube



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