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Zootopia Thread: Twitchy boopers Edition

Pastebin: pastebin.com/iYDU8g2T
Booru: zoo.booru.org
ZTArchive: ztarchive.com
Desustorage: desuarchive.org/trash
Previous thread: archive.b-stats.org/trash/thread/6318345
Thematic Thursdays: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll885541x1E43455b-36 (Poll closes Nov. 17 00:00 GMT)
More information: derpy.me/trashthematicthursdays
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>>6325067
ALIFORNIA HERE I COME

RIGHT BACK WHERE I STARTED FROM
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>>6325146
>I could see Percy being the reincarnation of some forgotten martyr from the 16th century.
>"Gentle Percius, in preventing the chapel from defilment by the invading Livonians, wed his soul to Christ, in the year of our Lord 1532"

Is it weird that I'm absolutely all for this?

Hell maybe he was named for someone biblical. I could see his father stemming from a somewhat more religious family.
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I want to cum inside of Nicholas Wilde
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Why
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>>6325217
>>6325218
Because he's hot. And I'd guess he would make the sexiest moans.
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>>6325218
Because we love you <3
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>Nick was lost.
>Completely and utterly lost.
>It was an unfamiliar feeling; he grew up walking every street in Zootopia and thus knew where everything was in the city.
>The fox could probably walk from Tundratown to the Rainforest District blindfolded!
>But here, in the Hopps Burrow, he was in absolutely new territory and had no idea where his room was.
>And it was all Judy’s fault.
>Judy had shown him one of the guest room, gave him all of sixty seconds to put down his stuff for their week winter vacation, before dragging him off to show off her partner on the force to everyone in her family.
>It was massive chaos with mixed reactions; some bunnies distrusted him, some were neutral, and some had taken a liking to him.
>One bunny in particular was Violet, one of Judy’s older sisters.
>Unlike most of the other rabbits, who hesitated to talk to him, she seemed to have no qualms asking Nick about his life as a fox cop in Zootopia which he obviously embellished for everyone’s entertainment.
>Once she had started conversing with him that seemed to get the ball rolling for every other rabbit to stand up and talk to him.
>Now, hours later, Nick finds himself in one of the hallways of the Hopps household, with Judy nowhere to be found, most of the household asleep and the fox unsure if he is even on the same level of his guest room.
>He should have asked a rabbit where Judy’s room was but that would mean admitting he was a fox helpless in a bunny burrow. He had his pride!
>’Well’ his tired brain thought, ‘that pride can go off itself.’
>Nick had no idea how long he spent roaming these halls but he was getting the thought that it might be better just to crash on one of the couches for the night.
>The fox turned around, ready to make the grueling trip through this maze to a living room, only to find himself muzzle to muzzle with Violet.


Cont.
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>>6325217
I want Nicholas Wilde to cum inside of ME
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>>6325218
>>6325235
Yes we sure do!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTKSLk-zNpc
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Post tube dudes
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>>6325218
im
vgfon to pound
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I want to play with Nick's fuzzy wuzzy tail
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>>6325294
Why wasn't I permab&?
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>>6321214
Hey, MisterE, sorry for being late with my opinion on the chapter that I promised before, I had the day full.
I can say that all in all I liked this instance, you can the growth of Becca as a three dimensional character, understanding that life it is not easy for everyone like it was for her. I liked also the stealth reference to Henrietta.
However that are some points that need improvement, imho. The first is the support group stories: for me it would be better if there was some story, among the others, that made a particular impact on Becca, and, as such, it is narrated to us. Something really heavy, that made the hyena narrating it break into tears. In this case the reader will feel the same of Becca, the weight of the problem of having a pseudopenis.
Also I see that you still maintained the friendly situation of all the ZPD toward the hyena. I personally think that adding characters of the police that don't like the extremely open behaviour of Becca could be an interesting addition, but this is for you to choose.
And a last thing, be careful when using particular expressions like 'And man,..' It may be because I'm picky, but for me they ruin the immersion a little.
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>>6325267
>>6325287
>These disgusting flanges
I wish Inky had never started drawing animal dicks.
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>>6325306
I looks very bristly, not quite soft.
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>>6325327
It would have never happened if this place liked human dicks.
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>>6325339
I LIKE HUMAN DICKS
PLENTY OF US DO
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>>6325235
Why do rabbits do this? Can't they breath without moving their nose? What is the function of it?

>>6325261
I'd like to take this moment to point out that there is an important rule to keep in mind at all times:

The VRbit is not for lewding.

If you have trouble remembering it, try this simple mnemonic device: The Very Idea Never Flies, Larry! Its also great in case Larry the Wolf comes along and decides he wants to lewd the VRbit and you can tell him 'no'.

>>6325295
Do you think smaller mammals are used by richer mammals as Christmas Tree ornaments? Because when I saw this I immediately thought of putting him on top of a Christmas Tree.
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>>6325363
Then be more vocal!

Or if you want a lewd particularly with human dicks, feel free to ask! It might be sketchy/lazy for easier editing, but I can do it!

It's not like I can get a general consensus for it, and I get screamed at more often when I draw human dicks then when I draw weird animal ones.

>>6325371
>Do you think smaller mammals are used by richer mammals as Christmas Tree ornaments?

Maybe if the smaller mammals got paid to. Otherwise that'd be slavery.
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>>6325371
>Larry the Wolf
>Going in the house of a coyote first and a jackal then

The little bun seems to have a things for knots
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>>6325411
>Then be more vocal!
I SPEAK UP ALMOST EVERY TIME YOU POST AWFUL ANIMAL DICKS.
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Repostin' in case Clunk shows up.

Short Tails - Ch 1: The Skinnymen
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6682150/chapters/15281737
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>>6325419
What are you implying?
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Jeepers, it seems pretty nice and quiet in here tonight.
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>>6325458
Is that the painter-jackal with the child-bearing hips?
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>>6325411
Well to counter that guys vote, I really like animal dicks most of the time. Kangaroos are fucking weird.
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>>6325455
I guess I now know how to lewd the VRbit
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Remember to bully your bun every day.
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>>6325496
u wil brek teh law if u do nd i wil arest u
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>>6325474
That'd be my OC Patch, a grey fox. I'm just an author and occasional worried poster.

>>6325488
Would QT polecat be able to handle Patch's non-euclidean toys?
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>>6325474
I think Patch the fox is the painter
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>>6325507
>>6325528
Either way, the defining physical feature I remember about them is does hips that could birth a generation.
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>>6325528
Oh my god that's awesome dude!
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>>6325550
My hips are off limits anon, but Patch is okie dokie.
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What does Judy listen to when she goes BRUTAL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzw3a87xe0
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What's up dorks

>>6325578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAjFrwTXYeU
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>>6325597
Writing! Also, you got faaaaaaan aaaaaaart!
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>>6325614
>Writing!
Same
Watcha writing?

And I got fanart?

This and the covers of my stuff are the only ones I know of
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>>6325437
OH SHIT I SEE IT NOW

DUDE THANK YOU! THIS IS GETTING SAVED HARDCORE
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>>6325503

>The little bunny got closer to the sleeping figure in the pale moonlight.
>He worked him well today.
>He was so tired, the bun was sure he wouldn't wake up.
>Still the paw was trembling a little when he reached for the sheets and pulled down.
>No shirt, no pants, underwear only. Perfect.
>He took a moment to look at the sleeping jackal.
>His fur, his rising and lowering of the chest, the nose... he wanted to take him there and now, but it was still not the right time.
>For now this will have to do.
>He took the waistband of the sleeping mammal's boxers and slowly began the removal.
>There it was, the sheath, and, below, these two beautiful orbs.
>It was difficult to contain himself.
>But he needed to.
>Slowly, he began stroking the sheath.
>The tip didn't take long to appear from the hot envelope.
>He firmly gripped it, and began pumping.
>Soon he was erect, full length, dripping precum like a fountain.
>The bun licked his lips.
>Now it was time for the fun part.
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Slow thread huh. Well anyways I'm gradually getting better at this whole 'drawing characters doing things' thing. It's pretty different from doing realistic portraits, but still very enjoyable. Here's a little mashup of the last two tts

>>6325552
Thanks, I kept on erasing but I still don't think I made the hips big enough
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>>6325625
Writing my super late TT entry! Its a style of project I've wanted to do for a long time, and Noir fits perfect for it.

The writing is almost done, and then the REAL work begins! Its gonna be a collaboration, which is my favorite kind of project!

But its gonna be a seeeeeekrit till its done, or else it'll spoil the surprise, sadly.
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>>6325744
This one's pretty great too, gave me a good chuckle. Don't worry too much about the hips dude, it was still really awesome and I super appreciate it.
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>>6325748
>Writing my super late TT entry!

Oh hell yeah dude!

> Its a style of project I've wanted to do for a long time, and Noir fits perfect for it.
Well desu you're a fantastic writer from what I can tell, so I believe in you.

>But its gonna be a seeeeeekrit till its done, or else it'll spoil the surprise, sadly.
I was going to ask the nature of the collaboration, but I guess not. Ah well.

>>6325437
Knight my brother, check Short Tails again. I'm updating each chapter with your drawings at the top!
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>>6325488
Let me try to put this on paper for better clarity.

You may actually be the only person who complains if you complain every time I post them. Not that that's a problem. You're in your right to. It's just more sound to draw weird animal dicks. Less trouble.

If you want something particularly with human dicks though all you have to do is ask. It's just become more sound (and slowly more fun) to draw animal dicks.

And like I said before, I always draw Pack Street characters with human dicks since that's how Weaver depicts them.

>>6325507
>Would QT polecat be able to handle Patch's non-euclidean toys?

Hard to say, in all honesty.
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>>6325734
DESIST
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>>6325748
Oh and on the subject of writing, I was preparing something for an update for Short Tails. You don't have to read this if you don't want to, but I was practicing symbolism and some other thematic elements.

This is if Sad becomes the newest TT entry

http://pastebin.com/usvRPvFD
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>>6325786
Why don't you just draw what you enjoy and stop worrying so much about people freaking out and letting it change your style? You yourself said you prefer human shaped dicks.
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I guess I'll repost this, just in case anybody besides Otterly ships Wolter and Martin(a).

Anyways, how's everybody's Monday going? (I checked the day this time. twice.)
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>>6325786
Here's my two cents on Dickgate.

...I honestly don't care what kind of dick that Hugh has.

So long as it's inside Maxine.
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>>6325639
You're welcome! I finished it up yesterday but didn't post it in time. Gonna continue with the rest soon, been practicing my zoodude today.

>>6325768
o fuc, I'll have to make them better. Thanks, man. I host them here, too: https://anotherknight.tumblr.com/
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>>6325786
ICP sucks
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>>6325786
Cockthulhu demands more shorties for his many tentacled appendages.
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>>6325804
Monday's going awwwright man. Got a lot of work done so I'm just dicking about.

How's yours coming?

>>6325814
>You're welcome! I finished it up yesterday but didn't post it in time. Gonna continue with the rest soon, been practicing my zoodude today.

You're just making me feel like the most special girl (male) in the world. No butt really, this means a lot to me.

> I host them here, too:
Okay, I'll put a link to your Tumblr in the descriptions
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We talkin' dicks? I'm a pretty big sheath fan, myself.
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>>6325803
I also said I'm growing to like drawing animal dicks though.

Why else would I have kept drawing them? I found a way to make them fun and appealing to me.

If you had said this to me two months ago I may have had a different opinion, but I'm drawing them because I'm used to it, it's kinda fun, and I'm learning a lot about animals I wouldn't have known otherwise.

I do prefer human dicks, and if someone wants an alt on an easily editable image I can still do that just fine if they ask. It's just easier and more convenient to make animal dicks the default when posting to /ztg/.

>>6325812
This anon gets it.

>>6325851
Correct.

>>6325871
I think sheaths can be kinda cute. Like a game of peekaboo.
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>>6325892
>I also said I'm growing to like drawing animal dicks though.
this is the worst possible future
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>>6325917
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>>6325252
I want... more!
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>>6325923
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>>6325920
Personally, I find the human dicks stuck on characters with otherwise completely animal bodies to be a bit off putting. But to each their own.
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the ultimate combo
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>>6325981
AND I'M SKUNKLY A BEAR

HI
DO YOU NEED A NEW MATTRESS??
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>>6325962
What's the significance of this discovery?
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Animal dicks = best dicks.
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>>6325252

>”Oh, Nick. What are you still doing up?”
>Nick turned away from the grey doe, “Err…I may or may not be lost trying to find my room that your sister gave me.”
>He heard Violet giggle, “The great fox cop, lost in a home of rabbits. There is some ironic joke there.”
>The fox turned to her with a tired grin, showing off his fangs, “Now now miss, it is really part of my plan.”
>”Oh? What is this ‘plan’ of yours?” the doe said, eying the fox’s teeth.
>”Well you see, now that all the bunnies are sleep, it will be easy for the fox to eat them.” Nick snapped his teeth quietly while giving her a wink.
>Violet smiled with an eyebrow raised behind her glasses, “You have a morbid sense of humor Mr. Wilde.”
>”You are admitting that you find it funny though.”
>”Just a tad bit.”
>”Then mission accomplished.”
>The doe shook her head, “Ok, enough jokes. We should really be getting you to bed…except…darn; I don’t know which room Judy is in.”
>Nick felt his ears fold back, “Say what now?”
>”She gave up her old room when she moved out and one of our other sisters, Amber, took it a little while ago. Judy is probably in one of the other guest rooms, who knows which one.”
>The fox groaned, pushing his muzzle into his paws, “That is just fantastic, and we can’t just knock on every door waking up the rest of the house.”
>Violet grimaced, “Sorry.”
>”No, it is alright. I was just making my way to a living room right now anyway-“
>”You don’t need to do that.” The doe grabbed Nick’s paw and guided him down the hall, “You can stay in my room.”
>Nick blinked, too tired to really resist her pull, “Umm, you don’t have to Violet. It would be rude for me to take your bed. I can just have the floor-”
>”Now now Nick,” Violet started as she opened the door to her room, “Whoever said that you alone would use the bed?”
>”…I’m sorry?”

Cont.
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>>6325989
I wanna stuff you full of food and make *you* my mattress. <3<3
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>>6325989
I would like to request a sleepy badger shaped mattress, can you provide?
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>>6325799
I can do a read of it! I should have some time tomorrow set aside: would it be okay if its then?

And would you prefer a private read through, or a public one?
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>>6325862
I'm glad you've been happy with them. Next ones might take a little longer as TT starts up.
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>>6326029
I totally forgot a VRbit to put here.

>>6325989
Skunkly is one of the greatest things to come from these threads.

He literally makes sleepyheads possible.
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>>6326029
Public is fine. It's just a draft. But I've been adding to it and turning it over for a day or two and I think I'm getting close to finishing it. No stress my dude, and thank you.

by reading of...do you mean like on Vocaroo? Cause that'd be flattering as shit

>>6326037
You're good man. You have no idea how much it means to me for people to be drawing fanart of my writing.

I'm actually really interested to see how you interpret chapters 5 & 6.
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>>6325998
The fact that quite a few artists didn't know it.
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>>6325857
Unlike Hugh, Percy does not react kindly to demands.

>>6325920
Mr. Weaver.

Kindly ask me for a human dong and I'll give you a human dong. I'm not an unreasonable person!

This goes for anyone! Normal dongs for the whole family!

>>6325989
And there you go again, making me love you.

You motherfucker.
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>>6326072
Butt I don't want any dongs. I like buhginas
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>>6325871
hot
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what was the polar bear's name at the beginning of the movie???
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>>6326072
HE'S FIGHTING THE ELDRITCH DONG.

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAMMAL.
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>>6325792
Oh, I will, because I'm going to bed.
But beware bun, you risk to be lewded at every moment. You don't know when, or where, but it will happen. And I will be there.
For now enjoy this
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>>6326085
Kazlov, right?
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>>6325323

Thanks! And that reminds me... I should shill in this thread, too!

Re-shill, re-shill.

Introducing...

Becca's Pseudo-Penis Adventure 4: Revelations!

Summary: Becca receives an invitation to a gathering of other spotted hyenas concerned about what's between their legs. Our favorite hyena shows up to the meeting to show everyone her way of doing things, if you get what I mean...


And of course, a reminder that the title and summary are always memes (its tradition) that only superficially resemble the actual plot. You'll have to read it and find out for yourself what it's really about!
(This took about 2 hours to write, and clocks in at a total of 2.6k words!)


http://archiveofourown.org/works/8553826

aand thats probably enough shilling for this fic. Onto the review!

I didn't want to spend too much time on the support group, since she won't be going back there- it was more of a one off. And we do know there's at least one Officer Valentine who doesn't seem amused at Becca's antics. Of course, these are told from Becca's perspective, who has said before that she just doesn't waste her time on people who don't like her much.
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>>6326095
the one at the police school - not the one cut from the movie
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>>6326106
>aand thats probably enough shilling for this fic. Onto the review!

>Shilling
>Ever enough
Or my name isn't Clunkbot ya hurrr

>>6326111
Oh, then I have no idea. Sick trips tho
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>>6325871
mmm sheaths
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>>6326079
better than judy at least
how many kit spines would be saved
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>>6326064
Oh, I do blind read throughs for the thread and put them up on soundcloud.

https://soundcloud.com/comicanon

I also do audiobooks... I swear I'm going to clear enough time to get started on Water Under the Bridge...

More and more authors are opting into the 'private read through', though, so I thought it polite to ask.

>>6326091
This is a dangerous world we live in. Lewders around every corner. They could be your friends. They could be strangers. They could be piggus.

What's a poor, lowly VRbit to do...
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>>6326151
>Oh, I do blind read throughs for the thread and put them up on soundcloud.

Right. I remember you doing those. Ha, I remember when I used to get drunk and read bad fanfiction.

>More and more authors are opting into the 'private read through', though, so I thought it polite to ask.

No, you're fine. I'm very open about my works. They need at least some criticism. Probably good if you ask though. I hope to catch your reading! I'm super busy tomorrow. Want me to provide you with a finished copy before then? I was going to maybe update tonight after another round of editing.
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>>6325989
I'm having trouble deciding. Help me try some of them.
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>>6326177
It shall be shilled for you till I see a news reporting badger replying to iit!
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>>6326072
>Kindly ask me for a human dong and I'll give you a human dong. I'm not an unreasonable person!
Oh
huh
is it really that easy?

Okay then I have a request
how about a
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>>6326229
ᵖᶦᵍᵍʸ ᵖᵘˢˢʸ
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>>6326193
Judy needs to stop editing her head on other people's bodies.

She looks fine the way she is.
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>>6326215
Dawww thanks man. I'll try to get a finished copy up for tonight so you have one.

Thank you so much again
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>>6326078
I have those too!

>>6326212
God damn it.

>>6326238
You monster.

Give me a minute.
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>>6326238
Weaves, are you single?
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>>6326238
SWINTON SUPPORTER REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>6326280
Weavs has a gf (male)
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>>6326280
No, he has a boyfriend.

Also Inky's a lesbian so what are you implying?
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>>6325926
And more is what you will get! Decided "fuck it, going to do some Nick/Violet smut".
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who posted this
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>>6326012
Moar?
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>>6326347
You, apparently.
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>>6326280
>weaver
>single
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>>6326347
Looks like you did friendo.
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>>6326347
You did. Is this a trick question?
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>>6326396
GO SAD GO
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>>6326064
>I'm actually really interested to see how you interpret chapters 5 & 6.
Sounds interesting! I'm looking forward to it.
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>>6326396
>already wrote something for Mythos
>Write a shit ton of sad stuff

Well fugg
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>>6326420
oh n u jus got followed on tumblr boiiiii
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Might as well re-shill my old trash for any newcomers to look at. Zootopia Lovecraft AU.

Ep.1 http://pastebin.com/afcXtzEE
Ep.2 http://pastebin.com/GjYBBifP
Ep.3 http://pastebin.com/gTUM8pdK
Ep.4 http://pastebin.com/iQ50Lz9g
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>>6326405
thanks mead
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>>6326436
thx
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>>6326436
I'll save them for later.
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>>6325493

I want to smell his ass forever.
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>>6326447
I can't beleb beab is ded
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>tfw cuddling
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>>6326435
o shite, gotta produce content now

thanks, man

>>6326507
He ain't dead, he's just restin'
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>>6326446
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>>6326405
Sad TT seem to me like having a TT about Tame Collars, Law Enforcement/Police, Cuddling or Nighthowler.
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>>6326553
I know. But like, all I write is sad stuff
I know that needs to change but at least I wouldn't struggle to do TT
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>>6326405
>sad tt gets chosen
>ends up being cozy heartwarming stuff
Calling it now.
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>>6326548
no rest for the wicked.
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>>6326568
monthy reminder that Judy and the tiger from the beginning of the show were, in their world, wearing costumes that make them look naked.
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>>6326012

>He saw the bunny shrug as she drew him into the bedroom, closing the door behind them, “You and I will both sleep on the bed.”
>Violet motioned towards said furniture and Nick took in the size of the mattress which was big enough to hold the both of them.
>If the pair had no space between them and basically cuddled for the night that is.
>He turned towards the doe, “Listen, I don’t think that would be-“
>Nick choked on his words as he got an eye full of Violet’s naked back, panty covered rear and wiggling tail, the bunny giving no mind to the fox as she changed into a large night shirt.
>”Don’t think that would be what?”
>Almost every instinct in the fox was telling him to get out, to run for the living room unless he wanted to be killed by a burrow full of bunnies the next morning.
>His tired brain and the parts of him that liked what he saw were telling him to shut up.
>”…would be possible, at least without us close together during the night.” The fox managed to mutter, watching as the doe walked towards the bed.
>”Such a gentlemammal,” Violet smiled at him. “But really, I don’t mind.”
>”…why?”
>Violet’s smile morphed into a grin, “Because, I trust you not to do anything I don’t want you to.”
>Nick’s jaw dropped while the doe let out a giggle, hopping onto the bed and patting it down, “Now come on Mr. Wilde, let’s both get some sleep.”


>Nick decided he would not be getting any sleep that night when, an hour later, he found himself now wide awake with an arm full of bunny.
>It was bad enough having a female bunny pressed against him, but Violet liked to move in her sleep so her rear kept pressing against his stomach, and his paws had no place to go but around her waist.
>This was torture; pure, delicious torture in the form of a rabbit with long legs and a fluffy tail.


Cont.
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>>6326605
Just fuckin' with ya here.
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>>6326589
>Mead sees sad TT win
>gets off a couple more times than usual
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>>6326589
NUUUUUUU TAKE IT BACK
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>>6326352
There will be more; with me trying my damn hardest not to let this turn into a goddamn novela like what happens with all my other greentexts.
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>>6326618
What did Mead do that's so special?
I've been gone for a while.
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>>6326589
pffhfahahaha, good luck with that, see >>6326447, it would be just rehearsal of the same old. maybe get someone going the distance with something like lost causes and broken dreams for maximum abloo bloo bloo
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>>6326521
Is he talking about who's next for Judy or who's next for him?
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>>6326638

You don't know?

oh shit, guys, he doesn't know
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>>6326638
The thread discussed a scenario/AU where Judy dies and Nick becomes a bitter police chief.
Mead fell in love with the idea, drew a massive series of comics, and it's now one of the most infamous stories in the whole fandom.
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>You will NEVER be a drawfag
>People will never recirculate your work like it's memetic
>People will never attribute your name to a piece of your writing
>You'll always be a writefag doing mediocre garbage

Feels bad man
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>>6326625
Im enjoying it and would just like to read it as it comes out. You should just keep doing what youre doing.
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>>6326660
No, I have no idea. I dipped out for a like a month or two

>>6326663
>Mead fell in love with the idea, drew a massive series of comics, and it's now one of the most infamous stories in the whole fandom.

Oh shit that sounds great. W2R
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>>6326666

are you me, anon?
thats how i feel

t. MisterEAnon
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>>6326666
Thanks super satan.
However, I do feel great that a greentext I wrote and a request I did made it into our two biggest stories here so I'm good.
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>>6326638
He made a long comic series called 'Judy is Dead.'

https://imgur.com/a/C5QYx
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>>6326679
>>6326695
Here.
Pay close attention to some subtle details in the art.
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>>6326666
Holy fuck those quads are career ending

I guess I should give up writing. Thanks Satan

>>6326695
Thanks man!

>>6326730
Okay, I won't just gloss it over
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>>6326666
Bullshit, I can think of a few writers off the top of my head who are popular

>Comicanon
>Clunkbot

Ummmm
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If sad wins the TT I will write the ultimate cuckfic.
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>>6326765

Weaver.

>Pack street update when
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>>6326773
If I get dubs you will not write a cuckfic
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>>6326773

Can it beat House Of Memories?
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>>6326765
Boney_m
Otterly
Weaver, though he has art to back his fics up so that's probably not fair.
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>>6326765
MisterE
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>>6326617

YO

I'll huff and puff and-
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>>6326773
cuckbot i believe u
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>>6326786
I'll cuck Judy, Nick and Jack all at the same time.
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>>6326765
Metals
Nate
Rock
MisterE
Alabaster
trashweasel
PseudoFox
OfficerFox
Otterly
Armasyll

Would you like me to continue?
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>>6326765
Shit list.
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>>6326666
Fuck you, I will just to spite you, Satan.
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>>6326790
concede the elections.
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>>6326802
I'm not on that list so yes......
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>>6326802
Not him, but please.
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>>6326813
I believe in you anon.

>>6326790
Oh my.
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>>6326678
Glad you are enjoying it!

Honestly I am just trying to write straight out smut just to write something, and I've had this idea for a while (I've always liked Violet). Every other time I've tried to write smut the story runs away from me or I end up writing a multi green text series of emotional sex.
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>>6326617
>>6326790
Me first.
I call dibs.
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>>6326813
That's the spirit!

It's frustrating but rewarding when you make something and it turns out good.
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>>6326793
I swear to dog I will one day write the BIGGEST cuck story of all time. I'll even write in a shitty Gary Stu OC to cuck myself.

>>6326765
Shitty list. You forgot mai boi Metals and Harry and Nate and Rock
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>>6326851
I like it! That your friend's character?
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>>6326851
>that clawhauser
Oh man, this is oddly adorable
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>>6326865
>metals
Metals literally hasn't written in months

He hasn't touched the fandom in months

For all we know he's fucking dead.

Nate too.
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>>6326851
Cut your hair you fucking hippy
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>>6326883
eyuup

>>6326893
;P
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>>6326857

>dibs

She gets a choice, anon. She's Inky, not Canidae.
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>>6326857
There are plenty of nice vaginas, though.

Ignore the vagina behind the curtain.
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>>6326900
I know, I just like him. He was a good friend of mine. I miss him. Nate was cool too.

I'm just throwing out names I can remember at this point

>>6326685
I don't know much about you, but apparently other people do. So chin up bucko

OR SHOULD I SAY KEKO
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>”Judy moaned orgasmically as Nick’s huge cock pierced her cervix. Wow.”
>Nick looked up at Judy from his phone. “Wouldn’t that really hurt?”
>Judy sighed and set aside her half-eaten bagel. “Why are you still reading those. Haven’t you scarred our brains enough already?”
>”It’s just so weird. Why would anyone write fan fiction about a couple cops, let alone bizarre erotica fan fiction. I mean look at this one! You drug me and then I get spit roasted by Gazelle’s back up dancers.”
>Judy closed her eyes and rubbed her temples. ”I would rather not think about it. How about we pretend you never Zoogled our names and found this stuff?”
>Nick continued, undeterred. “God, can you imagine meeting one of these freaks? ‘Well hey there officer Hopps, I’m a big fan of yours and by the way I wrote a story where your best friend knot-fucks you into a coma!’”.
>Judy shook her head. “I don’t know if I would arrest them or just run.”
>Nick shook his head as well. “Some mammals, Judy. Some mammals.”
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>>6326825
>>6326832
A few more off the top of my head

HarryLime03
AngryCapper (I'm pretty sure he does stuff on occasion)
Bread Otter
VodkaWrites
MichealXX2 (Dressed Down guy)
writeyote

And of course:
Canidae
Weaver
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>>6326851
>>6326919
I just wanna ruffle my hands and face in his main. QT!
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>>6326851
there isn't any cake left, just covered the damn cheetah with frosting and leave him in his bed room instead.

why does the cake have to suffer this ?
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>mfw so many amazing CCs
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>YOU WILL NEVER BE A NOTABLE WRITER
>YOU WON'T EVEN MAKE IT ONTO PITY LISTS
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>>6326927

Edy! Can I just say how much I like the possibility of light dating.
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>>6326952
>main
I main fox in meelee.
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>>6326802
Soulsposter also wrote something, still hoping for more of his fic.
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>>6326983
Fuck you

t. falco main
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>>6326542
>tfw feeling lonely and want cuddles but bf is a thousand miles away
Somebody cuddle me, guy or girl doesn't matter.
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>>6326989
The roman one, right? Where is that? Shit was great
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>>6327003
Hell ya, we need to yell at Soulposter more to update it. I do love pre-zootopia zoot stuff. Buns in armor!
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>>6326977
Edy only dates prey. Preferably of her own species!

If pred-prey dating is YOUR thing she won't stop you. Just judge you harshly.
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>>6326948
Always nice to give writers credit!
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>>6326940
Adding "Judy and Nick looking at the viewer in disgust" to my draw to-do list

>>6326975
I'm sorry anon but this made me crack up. Maybe link your stuff?
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Don't you people feel paranoid when people refer to your pseudonym? Like people are literally expecting shit from you.
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>>6327072
I probably wouldn't know.
I never revealed mine to the threads.
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>>6327017
Any more squirting stuff?
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>>6327072
I solve that problem by not being a popular cc
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>>6327072
Nah. I'm used to people asking for stuff. Doesn't mean you have to deliver either.
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>>6327136
i posted one
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>>6327039

B-but that's the beauty of it! And her tongue is so long...

Not that I'd demand anything be canon, hahaha...
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>>6326975
WRITE MORE

SHILL BETTER

also, don't think about yous and write for yourself - attention will come naturally once you start having fun and gitgut.
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>>6327072
No. Why?
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>>6327132
Well he is a cutie
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>>6327132
Sometimes, I like to imagine an inflated pizzacolt ball lapping at the irresistible taste of his hyper dick.
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>>6327161
>SHILL BETTER

This senpai

Shilling is the name of the game
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How has Raccoonfag not been listed by anyone yet?
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>>6326816
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
roasted
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>>6327159
Maybe see how she plays into the story first.

Also while I won't say the thread dictates canon, they do give me ideas.

At the very least inspiration for funny one-off doodles.
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>>6327198
god damnit
i am dishonor to my famiry
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>>6326765
>Bullshit, I can think of a few writers off the top of my head who are popular
>Comicanon
>Clunkbot
Weaver?
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>>6327132
>>6327169
>>6327176
d e l e t
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>>6327198
Well, you could list him if you felt like it.
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>>6327198
because everybody knows Raccoonfgt I suppose.

now you've mentioned, there are many more writers I can think of, but it just turns into a roll call - might as well update thread journal with names to keep everyone happy.
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>>6327161
>WRITE MORE
>SHILL BETTER
how about write better, shill more instead?
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>>6327225
Raccoonfag
Also that guy who wrote Boopersnootle
Come back to us, Boopersnootleanon
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>>6327224
Okay deleted it. Sorry Zhan.
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>>6327248
yeah, I intentionally swapped the words to make people stop and ponder.
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Guys, the secret to being a popular writer is to write a bunch of garbage and then shill it to no end

trust me on this

Also mead's story is fucking heartbreaking jesus
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>>6327257
THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF DELET
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>>6327314
>strangedad
What happened to that dude? He was awesome
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>>6326695
Since it has been brought up, can we talk about it a bit?

I didn't mind the whole action part, and the bedside patching up with July was fine. Some people complained that it rang hollow because they didn't have much of a relationship, and indeed he humiliated her in their previous encounter. But regardless, I still think the bedside reckoning was okay because it was Nick exteriorizing what he already knew, after having been through the traumatic event of the nighthowler thing. The action sequence is peripeteia, the patch-up is anagnosis.

But the following dream sequence flopped. He talks about loving the city, and nothing in the story so far gave that idea, in fact it would be the opposite. Similarly, his revelation that he shouldn't be chief came out of nowhere. Sadly, I think these robbed the ending of the impact it deserved. It was a second but flawed anagnosis.

Thoughts?
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>>6327314
I'm sorry cute horsey man, I am new at this. I hope my new changes are to your liking.
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>>6327331
bro i just like the porn
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>>6327331
i fucking laughed my ass off at NDE resolution, but then I was already burned by Morning Glory and had lost the luster of the story by Pocket Change.
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NO PONIES
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>>6325892
In the interests of unity, and at a time of your convenience, I would like to request the stink twink servicing a veritable cornucopia of animal and non-animal dongs.

For unity. For peace. For jizzing all over a skunk's face.
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>>6327364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzV4eOMKYpw
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>>6327364
No ponies here anon

Only cute colts
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>>6327268
>judy stop these fucking bats
>judy goddammit
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>>6327423
He's a new ghoul, the bats are just trying to show him the ropes.
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For the late night crowd, medieval bun farms plus bonus shifty fox
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>>6327322
Think he's discord only.
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>>6327465
Post the discord

Why is the discord even a thing
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>>6327344
>>6327417
i am running out of ways to tell people to delet
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>>6327463
Bunny on the bottom's all like 'that fucker's gonna steal my wife,'
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>>6327463
>Mayor is letting anyone in these days
I do love this kinda stuff, continue being cool Labger.
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>>6327463
>>6327484
KEK'D
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>>6327224
Inspiration struck.
I'm so sorry.

>He wasn't quite sure how he got into this situation.
>His body was completely rounded out, completely engulfing his limbs
>An unusually long member glistened with fiery passion as he leaned his head towards it.
>He was somewhat surprised that his mouth could reach so far.
>But as he began to wrap his mouth around the tip, none of it matter much to him anymore.
>As his lips gently massaged the end of his cock, he felt a shudder unlike one he'd ever felt travel throughout his entire ball of a body
>His hooves flailed in a futile struggle, as if he wanted to escape
>But his mind was only craving the delicious sensation even more.
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>>6327480
Write 'delet' on your horsecock and slap them with it until they take the hint, obviously.
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>>6327480
Well don't worry, that was my last lewd horse, I don't have anymore at all.
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>>6327322
He died. StrangerKid accidentally a toaster in the bathtub while he was bathing.
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>>6327480
Have you tried with a gun? That seems to be the proper way to tell people to delet
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>>6327513
Fucking word filter god damn
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>>6327463
>medieval bun farms
>shifty fox noble
>prima nocta
>>
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>>6327544
I bet his trigger finger is itching for vengeance
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>>6327471
As much as people rip discord for this reason, honestly if it wasn't a thing we would've lost a fuckton of people forever ago. People can still stick around and discuss other things they like there and not completely leave the community.
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>>6327556
Jesus christ kill it
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>>6326802
>>6326948
O-oh, I see...

>>6327198
...

>>6327239
>because everybody knows Raccoonfgt I suppose.
>everybody knows Raccoonfgt
>Raccoonfgt
>fgt

This is worse than that birthday when my new puppy turned out to be a homeless guy who stabbed me with a syringe full of bleach.
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>>6327465
he never draws anymore, just vidya and I think works on his commissions
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Her tail isn't there because it would be under her sweater.
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Maybe I shouldn't have wrote that...
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>>6327615
Badger noooo! You're too cute to die!
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>>6327615
What did you name your puppy?
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>>6327623
That's a shame.
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>>6327615
I know you, buddy.
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her orgasm is creepily slow
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>>6327544
>hooves

>>6327522
this seems counter productive

>>6327538
stop this meme, colt is pure

>>6327517
S T O P T H I S
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>>6327687
>>hooves
Quitter talk
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>6327253
Trashsavage! He also wrote getting fit for the bunny and both of those were just soooooo
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>>6327687
I already told you, I'm all out of pics. The well is dry, live free cutie colt.
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>>6327687
>S T O P T H I S
Actually, I think I will now that it's caused a bunch of autists to spam the threads.
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>>6327678
ain't clicking that shit

jfc
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Lucius here! Had a pretty late start last night and didn't get much done, but feel free to send doodle suggestions and I might make a drunken attempt at drawing some.
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>>6327472
I have been gorging myself on the salt these past few days. The identitarians that caused Trump still blame everyone but themselves. If they keep this up, he has a second term in the bag.
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>>6326091
Oh my! What will happen to me?
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>>6327687
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>>6327740
Some bunny badger love maybe?
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>>6327740
Draw me cuking ur dad lmao
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>>6327762
Needs some tape for that gun, other than that its perfect.
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>>6327687
>this seems counter productive
I'll get on my knees, you whip it out and we'll give it a few tries to see if it works.
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>>6327746
you say that like its a bad thing...
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>>6327633
Alas, my dying regret is that I never got to tap that sweet sweet beaver booty.

>>6327642
Well I wanted to name him Scraps, but he insisted it was "FuckFUCKshittheguvmentCIACIAfuckCIAfuckingshittracersinmyteethreadingmybrainSHITshittingFUCKObamafuck".
The people at PetSmart were very uncooperative about engraving a collar tag with that.

>>6327660
Glad to be known.
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>>6327764
BADGERS ARE NOT FOR HOMOSEX

THEY ARE FOR COLLECTING THE NEWS
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>>6327739
actually tho
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>>6327777
Fucking sick quads from heaven
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>>6327740
Draw a Lucius sleepyhead! We need a sleepyhead for every CC!
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>>6327746
>a full week of saltmining
Still ongoing, it's fucking wonderful
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>>6327783
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>>6327556
>>6326255

Is she trying to impress Nick?
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>>6327032
hello /ztg/!
I'm actually finishing some edits for chapter 1 before posting it on AO3, chapter 2 is already in the works!

>whatchu listenan'? doan'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs
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>>6327794
Oh no they are totally for homo sex, especially the sleepy ones.

>>6327837
Thank you, keep being a cutie Inks.
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>>6327837
A horse with a gun is about as threatening as a mouse with a nerf bat.
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>>6327851
NO
NO

I WILL NOT ALLOW THIS

BADGERS ARE FOR THE NEWS DAMN YOU
DELET THIS
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>>6326948
>HarryLime03
He had a TT hand-delivered to him, promised updates on several occasions, and then disappeared. He doesn't deserve to be on that list.
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>>6327828
>wedding rings
I'm a sucker for this stuff.
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>>6327850
I look forward to it Orange Juice Loving Man wearing a Bucket.
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>>6327734
redeemer
>>6327736
i feel partially to blameas well, at least now I can embrace sleep
>>6327762
>>6327837
inky you are amazimg oh god
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>>6326802
Rock here, can confirm, super hard to get noticed.

Regardless, thanks for noticing! I was starting to think I was a ghost or something!
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>>6327886
trump is the president now - every time someone calls him racist the wall goes up two feet
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>>6327889
Me too, man. Best minor detail.
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>>6327870
Harry is my friend pls be nicr
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>>6327850
>Listenan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcg9JybEp8
>Doan
reportin spam
update your fic sunbro
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>>6327864
This just in, Sleepy badgers are the cutest most lewdable mammals in history!
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>>6327931
D E L E T
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ALSO WE DONT SAY "THIS JUST IN" REEEEEEE
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>>6327740
Canidae being forced to perform a striptease in front of Lucius, and possibly some of his mates.
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from the life of pets
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>>6327828
Is it cheating if I already have one?
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>>6327895
I miss unreal tournament, the first one. I actually am all out, nothing but moped and giant cock left.

>>6327949
This just in, lewd badgers are best.
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>>6327953
I second this.
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THIS IS A ZOOTOPIA PORN THREAD STOP POSTING POLITICAL STUFF AND HORSES
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>>6327980
THIS JUST IN, RRRREEEEEEEEEEE
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>>6327837
>tape a gun to your hoof with your lips
>risk shooting yourself in the mouth for a brief feeling of power
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>>6327913
And your friend is a failure.
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>>6328012
Lewd badgers are best!

Also, shit is captcha being a dick to anyone else? Like 3 fails in a row to post once!
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>>6328005
but look at this qt

how can you say no to him
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>>6328060
N O
O

>>6328061
Badgers are for the news desu.
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doggy
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>>6328086
Badgers are for anything cute, this includes lewd.
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>>6328005
Leave Pizzacolt alone! He's a qt.
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>>6328099
How are cha Joker?, the other day someone was asking for you.
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>>6328113
I already did, I'm out of pics!
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>>6328005
>zootopia
>porn
>horses

How is this not Zootopia related?
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There seems to be an interesting correlation between the time of day and amount of lewd in the thread
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Uh... I'm new here. Is the joker poster a thing? I just used 4chan x to filter him...
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>>6328208
Ya most people do, hes not much of a thing anymore. He just spams once or maybe twice a week at most nowadays.
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>>6328208
Yeah, he comes, gets banned for like five times, gives up and goes back to lurking for a while.
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>>6328208
He does it when he feels personally slighted.
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>>6328208
it kind of happens, it makes him feel powerful or something.
just post like normal
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>>6328208
Yeah, some autist (autists?) spam like this roughly once a week or so when nobody falls for some shit bait they post; just report the posts and give it about ten to fifteen minutes for the janitors to notice
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>>6328253
Damn thats a nice draw. Source?
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>>6328110
I'll tell you what I told him you punk kid

BADGERS ARE FOR THE NEWS
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>>6328270
http://creativemechanics.tumblr.com/post/121328466088/whos-stoked-for-zootopia-zootopia-disney
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>>6328273
But no one watches the news. Unless you're a cute lewd badger? Are you a cute lewd badger?
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>>6328298
Huh that was supposed to be a badger, oh well next time I guess.
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>>6328298
I'm a (qt) news badger

Darn you to heck

>>6328322
You're lucky the image limit is reached or you'd be in for it senpai
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>>6328132
Shit, better start learning to draw then.
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>>6328337
Eh I'll stick to bug burga badgers
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>>6327556
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>>6327678
Man, it is so crazy that photomorphs have been coming back.

Like, they never stopped, but I've seen more of them in the last month or so than I have in at least a decade, and I have no idea why.
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>>6328370
Still on page 4. I say we text post till page 10.
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>>6328370
Give it a few minutes and mods will make some room from all the joker posts. No need to make a new thread yet.
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>>6328370
Just when I was trying to do draw requests. RIP
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https://picarto.tv/meeshart
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>>6328380
Eh, thread pretty much dies when text only posting is in effect. I'll give it a few in case the mods swoop in but if not then new thread.
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>>6328086
Then where is his vaunted "new chapter"?
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>>6328423
Might be taking a while. Lots of CCs are late.
[spoiler]I'm late[/spoilersdontwork]
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>>6328421
We can talk about Zootopia culture. Like species specific, or how healthcare is handled.
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>>6328479
>When you want to use spoilers tags, but don't want to look like you don't know spoiler tags don't work on this board.
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>>6328508
What?
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>>6328479
It's been 3 months. Not even A Rabbit Clans Fox is worth that wait.
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Does anyone else have the "Art of Zootopia" book?
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>>6328554
Meh, Im in no hurry. Weird to hear that you have some sort of timeframe where content can be delivered to you. Going somewhere?
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>>6326604
You have my attention anon
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>>6328559

I ahve it
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>>6328508
>one of us doesn't know how spoilers work on /trash/
And I'm honestly not sure which of us it is.
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>>6328559
https://mega.nz/#!bRAF0JaB!r8x_1vxwjvZS3eJeFGR_NcfSicq2pOhjue9S_-1AhYs
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>>6328567
Probably to download more Joker pictures.
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>>6328479
>tfw i'm five months late on an update
get on my fucking level scrub
who else here is >late?
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>>6328597
I'm so late I'm worried it might mean I'm pregnant.
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>>6328633

new bread with a title op dun fucked up
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>>6328597
I'm still working on a Bellwether-centered noir fic I'll likely never finish
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>>6328647
>making a new thread despite what everyone was saying
Thanks, Joker.
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>>6328597
I posted a green on Saturday, let's see how long it takes me to continue it.

Ha ha ha.
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>>6328663
Which one was it?
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>>6328660

I just realised Jokers around
shit i feel like a jackass
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>>6328597
I wanted to get the next episode of my project out by now, but I had no due date so I'm technically not 'late'. Just a bit slow.
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>>6328651
Hey, even if you don't, it's all more practice for your next fic, right?
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>>6328697
Eh don't worry about it, gimping ourselves just cause the spammer is being a tool is dumb anyway.
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>>6328715
You went on a short mid-season break, that's all! Nothing wrong with that.
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>>6328678
The Jill Savage one.

I've only really done one-offs before this, so I guess we'll see if it goes anywhere.
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>>6328945
hey joker want to hear a joke?
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of wind that are wholly unpredictable. One floor of the building may show no contamination while another floor does. We asked that the EPA test all homes included in the program for these contaminants at least until a sufficient body of data has been collected to rule out any threat.
Some homes have chosen testing only and they should be tested for all of the above, not just asbestos, because the asbestos tests are generally non-aggressive. All homes that are cleaned should be tested for all of the above after clean up and all research data obtained should be released as soon as possible.
This should be accompanied by the complete explanation of all test methodologies used. This data should be documented on the Internet and in all local newspapers as study long-term health impacts on exposure to residents in the vicinity of the site.
On another subject, we applaud FEMA for showing flexibility in allocating money towards transportation projects in lower Manhattan. This money should be used not only to rebuild the aging, inadequate transportation infrastructure that existed before September 11, but on projects that will help rebuild our businesses, residences and accommodate new tourists (ph) by improving our links to the region.
In summary, we appreciate the EPA for its decision to conduct the air testing and cleaning program for the residents of lower Manhattan. They need to acknowledge, however, that their public outreach efforts have been inadequate and that they have an important obligation to keep local citizens fully abreast about what their ongoing testing uncovers of any potential health risks, which may emanate from their findings.
We recommend that the EPA do further outreach, extend the signup deadline and expand the scope and quality of the testing and clean up program.
I am grateful for the attention Senator Clinton has brought to this issue and I thank all the members of this committee for your support, your concern and for giving
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well for the people of New York and our clients in particular.
The Legal Aid Society is the country's oldest and largest legal organization. We are a law firm for poor people. We started about 125 years ago. We serve 300,000 clients a year. We are in the lowest courts of New York City and state and we also have argued 40 cases in the United States Supreme Court.
We are the public defender in New York City. We are the appellate defender. We are the federal defender. We have represented 90 percent of the children in Family Court in neglect cases and dependency cases and we also have a very large legal services component, neighborhood offices throughout the city and we have foregone legal services corporation funding in order that we don't have restrictions on the work that we can do.
On September 10, we were seeing far too few of the poor people eligible for our services. On September 11 and September 12, the number increased by even conservative estimates to be at least 100,000 newly poor people who had lost jobs.
In addition, the headquarters of the Legal Aid Society is less than 50 yards from the Twin Towers. We are literally across the street from where they stood. The firefighters, the valiant, heroic firefighters stood in our building to put out the fires in number seven which burned for another day.
Our staff, fortunately, got out quickly and safely. One of our staff members took the blind woman in the lobby who runs the kiosk and for seven hours took her home to Queens because of the transportation being down and the inability to communicate with her family.
So, on the lowest and most important individual level and then on the systemic level, the Legal Aid Society was there. The food stamp system was down in New York. If you lived in Queens, if y local bodega or in your supermarket, you couldn't get food if you had food stamps, b castigated for its adve
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our lawyers had expertise that was valued by government and that food stamp system suddenly turned to us and said, how can we do this better and we helped the state department get out regulations that said to local store owners, if you give out this food and if the person in some rare case turns out to be ineligible, you will be held blameless and suddenly, all over the city of New York, literally hundreds of thousands of people were able to get food again. So too with the emergency Medicaid services that the state of New York provided.
FEMA was implicated in our work in two very, very important ways. The first was in ways that have not been spoken about here but deserve to be mentioned. There was, as you know, Pier 84 for the direct victims and their families and that was an extraordinary effort of all different kinds of services, including the private bar.
But FEMA set up a center in lower Manhattan that tried to service those people who were not direct victims, the busboy who worked in the World Trade Center on Windows of the World and was fortunate enough to be on the night shift, but suddenly living from week to week as he and his family was, had no money, had no way of even thinking about getting the money and couldn't get back into the place that they were.
And the FEMA center was this amazing confluence. It was exactly what advocates for the poor had said for 30 or more years -- why not put in one place all the services that somebody needs and bring the services to them instead of making them go all around to try to get the services. The FEMA center on Worth Street and Center Street in lower Manhattan was a model of what should have been -- public/private partnerships, not in rhetoric, but in reality.
FEMA oversaw it. They knew exactly who to bring to which table. The small businessperson went to the SBA table. The person with an eviction problem came to Legal Aid. Those places -- the FEMA center was open on evenings, ded beyond our
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FEMA assistance.
When we first asked for it, we were told as a non-profit that we were not an essential service. We were actually denied the claim. With the help of city and state officials, at the outset we put back the claim saying if those who were mandated to represent indigent defendants are not an essential part of this city, it is hard to imagine what is in keeping the criminal justice system going.
And equally important, clearly more important, Senator Clinton, with your help and that of Cara Hughes (ph) in New York City, FEMA has now turned around and said, we do understand. You are right. You are eligible and your claim will be processed and they have been extraordinarily helpful in helping us to even generate that claim.
So, the one thing I would say as I conclude in terms of help to this committee in thinking of the FEMA role -- whether it needs statutory amendment or merely to have FEMA understand it, there is an extraordinary role that non-profits played in the city of New York in the wake of this tragedy, extraordinary role that it needs to play in the rebuilding of downtown New York, but more important, non-profits throughout the country need to be valued and understood not to have resources, not to have endowments, not to have the ability to really move from year to year in a way that a great tragedy will inflict on it.
If we are to invest in the infrastructure of this country, then the understanding that non-profits, like the Legal Aid Society, play important roles that no one else can play needs to be addressed in a way that others won't have to come to congressional delegations to have their services needed.
Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today.
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task force one of the Urban Search and Rescue Team. On September 11, 2001, my team of 74 responded to the World Trade Center tragedy to assist with the rescue and recovery efforts.
REALL: We arrived in Manhattan at 6:00 a.m. on September 12, where we remained until September 19. Our day shift crews were assigned to begin work immediately in the Liberty Sector on the southwest quadrant of the collapsed area.
During our operations, conditions at the site were hazardous at best. Dust and paper were everywhere. A night shift when I worked, visibility was extremely limited due to the dust in the air reflecting light.
While the paper became less of a problem throughout the eight-day period, dust and the smoke from the ever-burning fires were always present. During the first 24 to 36 hours of our deployment, respirators were difficult to obtain. We carry full-face cartridge respirators in our cache (ph) for compliance base operations. How eriencing an increased number of illnesses. Fourteen of our members sought medical attention within weeks of the incident for respiratory ailments. Diagnoses ranged from pneumonia to reactive airway dysfunction syndrome.
One of our members was hospitalized for five days and treated aggressively for his symptoms. Another experienced a hernia due to the excessive coughing. Many others experienced infections of a non- respiratory nature -- skin disorders and various other ailments. Almost every team member experienced hoarseness, gravelly voice and nasal blockage for many weeks after the incident.
Until the recent publi shed reports in the New England Journ ding their health and treatment. He found the deployed members were 2.7 times more likely to require antibiotics
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antibiotics for respiratory infections and 3.2 times more likely to require medical care than our non-deployed members.
This information has been extremely helpful in educating our team about the need for appropriate medical surveillance. During the development of the Urban Search and Rescue response system, the primary focus was on how to protect our members from failed structures that may collapse and trap us. For this, we learned how to shore up buildings with wood to create safe areas to work.
After Oklahoma City, we extended our focus to how to withstand the psychological and emotional effects of man-made disasters taking hundreds of lives. For this, we learned how to strengthen the support network, in both pre and post deployment to enable us to keep the people we have trained.
After September 11, we must extend our focus to the unknown health effects our members will face in short and long term future. For this, we must be able to monitor their health completely from the time they join the team until they retire from the team and in all phases in between.
Our Urban Search and Rescue teams function on a shoestring budget of $150,000 per year. $100,000 of this is eaten up immediately in fixed costs like insurance, utilities and maintenance of equipment. The other $50,000 must be utilized to maintain training levels, provide basic protective equipment and plan for the times when we won't be reimbursed for our expenses.
That doesn't leave us much room for $1,000 medical exam for 180 personnel. The budget has put us in a Catch-22 situation with the Department of Labor. Our members are repeatedly denied their coverage under federal workers compensation because we don't have enough data to create a causal relationship between the incident and diagnosis.
Yet, we don't have the funds to obtain full medical surveillance to provide that relationship. The member who spent five days in the ho tain members particip ber 11. We appreciate
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. Kelly and Mr. Reall -- first Dr. Kelly -- in looking at the future needs of the firefighters that you care for and taking into account what Dr. Prezant's (ph) research demonstrated clearly in the publications that have come out recently, do you currently have the resources you need to adequately track the physical and mental health of all those who responded at the World Trade Center?
KELLY: We do have an existing infrastructure. We have people and physicians and a staff who wish to follow people. But we don't have the current resources for that. We are set up to do annual evaluations of our members, but again, the two areas of concern are that so many of our members are retiring prematurely and we need a mechanism of following those individuals, which is a goal that we have.
And the second is I think it is very important to continue to support the people who are a part of our environment, because there are so many reasons for them to leave that we need to support what is going on in their mental and physical concerns.
Your group was there a week, so you can imagine how it is like for our group who was there so long. I think thblications that have come out recently, do you currently have the resources you need to adequately track the physical and mental health of all those who responded at the World Trade Center?
KELLY: We do have an existing infrastructure. We have people and physicians and a staff who wish to follow people. But we don't have the current resources for that. We are set up to do annual evaluations of our members, but again, the two areas of concern are that so many of our members are retiring prematurely and we need a mechanism of following those individuals, which is a goal that we have.
And the second is I think it is very important to continue to supp ation looks to our group to see how we are doing as a group because of the exposures that we've had.
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d of assistance.
And Ms. Wils, I know that you've had some ave and the follow up work, because a lot of the th eaking out fo mportant hearing.
JEFFORDS: Thank you for your excellent help. It is an important vote.
Dr. Kelly, as you know we have discussed many times over the last year the need for health monitoring and tracking programs for our first responders. I am impressed by the study you have conducted with New York City firefighters. Based on that experience, I would like to know what you think an effective program would include and what would it cost -- the latter one may be a little problem for you, but.
KELLY: We are very thankful for Senator Clinton, who has introduced an amendment to help give us some resources for this. Again, we have an existing program, a bureau of health services with a facility, nurses; physicians who are prepared to follow people. What we are looking to do is to continue to monitor people after they have retired on the premise that these are people who have really been in the first line in a war and just as you would follow veterans who have been in an event, you want to follow a group of people that have been exposed to toxins and other substances that appear to be having some pulmonary problems.
The firefighter who is hired by our department has a set of tests done at the time they come on. We know what their preexisting pulmonary function test, chest x-ray; EKG is because we have them on premises. So, we have an ability to follow people if there are changes, for example, their pulmonary function test or their chest x- ray.
Our initial changes that we have been seeing have been people with wheezing and hyper-reactive airway disease. The concern we have is down the line. Will there be further changes, either in their breathing capacity or any restrictions in their lung because of the, again, the powder, the substances that they have been exposed to, as well as monitoring their other
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REALL: Well, I think a good start has begun already through the work of Congress in funding our preparedness for weapons of mass destruction nationwide. That will give us a lot of the equipment and the training needed to not only identify, but help protect our members in the event that we respond to incidents of this nature in the future.
I think the primary thing that we are going to focus our efforts on in Ohio are on, because we are not a single fire department team. We are made up of people from around the state of Ohio.
We need to concentrate our efforts on creating that baseline, medical, like Dr. Kelly spoke of and then being able to follow up and monitor the pulmonary function test annually or semi-annually on our members. We've identified that as a problem in these kinds of events now in these major collapses and it will be an ongoing problem, so we need to take the steps to be able to protect our members.
But, of course, that takes funding.
JEFFORDS: What can be done to increase the safety of these teams.
REALL: Well, right now we have to make some changes in our cache (ph) equipment in order to be able to appropriately identify the hazards at the scene early on, prior to the response of federal agencies.
We're there very early into the incident and it takes some time before you get different nuclear emergency support teams or EPA there to appropriately monitor the air. We need to be able to do that ourselves and make the appropriate recommendations to our team members for the respiratory protection and/or any other protection that they need at the site.
JEFFORDS: What additional resources are needed to ensure that teams are prepared for all types of disaster. I know that's a broad question.
REALL: I don't think we'll ever be prepared. We learn from
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preparation we have.
The equipment is something that we learn on each incident, what different types of things we need and what is out there. Some of the things that after the World Trade Center incident, our respirators that we wear on a daily basis and even the ones that are available right now are not meant to be worn for 14 hours a day, day in day out.
They are just not made for that kind of arrangement. There obviously needs to be some work on those kind of pieces of equipment should we encounter something like that in the future -- decontamination equipment and the ability to decontaminate appropriately at the scene is a high priority as well.
Our decontamination of our team members didn't come in until three or four days after the initial response.
JEFFORDS: Ms. Wils, are the residents of lower Manhattan currently participating in a health tracking or monitoring program?
WILS: Yes, Senator Jeffords. There has been an effort just in the last couple of weeks to start an indoor air testing program. It has taken a while to get this started, because there has been many, many differing opinions in the scoping issues and methodology used.
And approximately, I think, about 4,500 households have signed up for this. One of the problems, though, is that if you sign up for just testing, if you -- if they bring in a modestly aggressive method to test for asbestos only in your home and if they don't find anything, they don't clean up.
These methods are questionable and people don't know what to ask for.
WILS: They are not that knowledgeable in this. And if you are being tested
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system in place to allow a team such as ours and many other teams -- Senator Corzine talked about the New Jersey team. I believe they are in the same situation we are -- they're multi-jurisdictional teams. I individually have a system in place to get baseline physical and annual medical testing done through my fire department, my primary employer, but as a team, we don't have that kind of system in place and we don't have a standardized pulmonary function test to utilize for team members.
VOINOVICH: It seems to me that at this stage of the game that that would have been one of the first things they would have done -- I'd like any other comment from any of the witnesses. Have you experienced this same thing in terms of compensation at all? Have people complained to you about the fact that they had to go through all kinds of paperwork in order to get help?
KELLY: Our department was in place and we were ready to take care of the physical needs of the firefighters and the EMTs who had been at Ground Zero so that we were able to pull together the resources that we already had in place and put together funding through NIAGE (ph) and the CDC to do these medicals, because we were aware very early on that people were having respiratory problems. We started seeing those symptoms very quickly and because we have an occupational medicine program in place for our New York City fire department, we were able to notice these symptoms and respond quickly.
VOINOVICH: So, you did it yourself. Have any of them filed for compensation under the federal program that Mr. Allbaugh made reference to. I think it's called the federal -- it's like a federal workers compensation program. He basically said in his testimony, well, they're all now like working for the federal government.
Have your people used that system or have they just gone outside...
KELLY: I don't know the answer to that. We have our own mechanism
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>>6329223
Hey! es el Señor Sarcasmo!
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>>6329223
Como has estado?
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>>6329236
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Ayyyy guys what's up.
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>>6329361
Not much, might wanna jump into the new thread though.
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>>6330289
I agree.
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Thank you mods, you are cool duders.
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>>6330785
I love that so much, such a good bun and fox.
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>>6326789

huh what
no im not
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It has been a glorious week. All this salt will sustain me for as long as it keeps flowing.
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