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I once again have to proclaim my love for the best-bun.
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>>35061523
Nick's actual reaction to having his balls roughed up.
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>>35061377
>>35061456
> "And then the female sucks the male's swollen aching dick, and... that's the basic fox mating ritual."
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>>35061377
>>Hahaha!!! It's so funny when the male character is being hurt.
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>>35061015
What the fuck is that thing?
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>>35061377
can't tell if this is siroc or borba
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>>35062720
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>>35060945
reshilling my stuff

anyone here enjoy Cyberpunk 2077? i know i have been having fun with it
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>>35062733
>>35062288
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>>35062729
Bruh
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FROM WIKIPEDIA, THE FREE ENCYCLOPEDIA AT WIKIPEDIA DOT ORG
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>>35062741
Really nice draw, who are you drawanon?
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>>35062351
The guy who's been banging your mother
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>>35062720
Judy, why the fuck are you just taking his shit? You have his balls in your fist, now squeeze!
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>>35062351
This >>35063497
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>>35063487
scanless, felt like drawing something Cyberpunk related and brainstorm a little
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>>35063535
your art style has improved :V
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>>35063593
thanks, though i did put a bit more time than i normally would into it. and i used a reference for Velvet which certainly helps
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>>35063645
next thing is to burrow in a rabbit.
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>>35064223
UNBIRTHING
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>>35062733
mean judy :(
i don't like this
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>>35062733
>Neither would admit it, but that moment was the start of their attraction to one another
>Judy felt how big Nick’s “package” was.
>And Nick discovered he liked Judy being rough and dominating.
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>>35064624
>>35064631
two kinds of anons

but I'm with the first one.
1, It's not in character for Judy to hit someone that doesn't pose a threath
2, Those documents should be just copies (no way they would let a cop without access to the police system take the originals) so Nick trying to get them would've been a futile effort no reason for her to get agressive
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>>35063713
Is the other character Nick?
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>>35062712
On one hand, a very OOC comic for a meh joke.
On the other, kinda like how Joao made Judy thicc
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>>35064821
>Nick trying to get them would've been a futile effort no reason for her to get aggressive
I don't think Judy knew he was reaching for the papers. She probably thought he was trying to grab her. But yeah, kicking him in the nuts makes no sense. She would more likely just have grabbed his arm and put it in a lock or as we saw twice in the movie, reaching for her fox away, but this time actually using it. Either way, it would still have been extremely unprofessional.
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>>35064854
yep, Nick Wilde, rockerboy and terrorist
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>>35064821
While I won’t argue that this is a bit OOC and overkill, I don’t think it is that out there either.

Remember, at this point (disregarding her own behavior at the time) Judy’s interaction with Nick mainly consists of him lying to her, hustling her out of 20$, skirting the edges of the law, insulting her, letting her walk into wet cement and leaving her there without calling for help.

At this point, Nick is kind of a prick. Then he starts making sexual comments about her mother and then comments on her “body shape”, I don’t think it is unreasonable for her to think he is going to grab her. And even if she figured he was going for the documents instead, I don’t think anyone likes being stolen from, copies or not.

Overall, an overreaction maybe, some cartoon logic, but I don’t believe it is that unbelievable.

>>35064967
Joao likes to bounce between a slim Judy and a THICC Judy.
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>>35039748
>Manchas took hold of the twitching member, enjoying its slickness and warmth in his paws, and began rubbing its shaft on his cheek to mark it as his.
>"Ahh..." The bear trembled, his face flushed with a red tint. It was a look the cat never often got to see on the normally serious bear.
>Manchas purred, running his tongue up the length of Kozlov's shaft and swirled it around the tip of his length, lapping up the pre that continually dripped out.
>"Mhhgn-! Y-you tease Kozlov. Ghh- Kitten... Ohhh!" The bear dug his claws into his own thighs, gritting his teeth and unable to form proper sentences. His words continued to degrade until he could no longer speak, only letting out nonsensical utterances for every tremor and every other second his tip was serviced.
>Manchas, meanwhile, had reached down and begun to stroke himself, a powerful arm with rippling muscles moving back and forth in desperate motions, hungry for pleasure.
>"Kitten, please." Kozlov begged, bringing a large paw to cup Manchas' cheek. "More."
>Manchas had looked up at Kozlov, and saw just how desperate he was to be enveloped by the warm, wet heat of Manchas' mouth. The cat sympathized.
>Giving Kozlov's tip a single kiss, he opened his mouth and slid the bear's penis into it, gliding it down his soft, moist tongue.
>"Ohhhh, yes!" The bear groaned. "Ohhh, fuck."
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the thread died faster than I thought it would, and I thought I'd have more time to write that Koz/chas green. I'll continue it across threads, though
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i think i drew nicks dick too big...
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>>35065665
I think its fine, though maybe big for Judy
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>>35065573
>While I won’t argue that this is a bit OOC and overkill, I don’t think it is that out there either.
This. Judy has been shown to be more than capable of threatening folks she doesn't agree with with violence to get her way. See, Freezing a Bootlegger to death for information.
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>>35065573
Still unprofessional as hell, considering she's letting him get behind her. Taking into account how much of a "prick" Nick was, it's quite unbelievable that she isn't paying more attention to him. Nick could practically have stabbed her in the back. But with that said, thinking about it, Judy didn't actually do anything professional at all in the entire movie, except maybe being a very good meter maid.

Also, can anybody tell me what the actual joke is? Is it really just that >>35062288 ? Like haha, Nick got his balls kicked? What's the overall point?
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>>35061456
>Judy misunderstands what a footjob is
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>>35065817
To be fair, no one in the movie was professional.

>Also, can anybody tell me what the actual joke is?

I think it was suppose to be more of a “what if Nick actually commented on Judy’s ‘multiplying’ innuendo” specific thing, because Nick getting hurt doesn’t seem like a punchline, just a result.
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>>35065817
>Like haha, Nick got his balls kicked? What's the overall point?
Slapstick
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>>35065762
That was the only moment and she wasn’t physical there.

>>35065817
>questions a couple civilians during the investigation
>studies a crime scene
>read Lionheart his Miranda Rights
> “Judy didn't actually do anything professional at all in the entire movie,”
She’s a cowboy cop, but there are times she tries.

>>35065573
Joao has been making his characters more thicc recently.
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>>35066169
>Zootopia = Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes
I seriously can't make that connection. It's two completely different worlds.

>>35066015
I'm still not getting the overall point? Nah, at this point it seems obvious to me that there are people who really can't stand what Nick did to Judy in the movie, so they have to create these "power" fantasies where Judy is turned into a mary sue and is able to just slap Nick around as she sees fit. (Many fics out there but "The Pursuit" and "Winter of the Bear" comes to mind). And they also turn Nick into a strawman making him out to be even worse than he ever was, in order to justify the abuse. I'm so fucking tired of it.
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There's a worrying amount of Judy sympathizers in here...
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>>35066634
I am not on pc, I need second panel as reaction image
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hey ztg, have a retro pinup judy.
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>>35066634
That's a good ass comic page. You go, Judy!
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>>35066807
Dem curves
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>>35066767
Thank you anon
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>>35066634
I’m gonna play devil’s advocate and say Joao, especially in his DeviantArt era, is inspired by traditional cartoons. His (actual) OC’s were based on that simplicity style and one of his other comics have this same type of punchline (I think the sheep punching the wolf). He’s not that great in executing the jokes, but I doubt he despise Nick.
The characters do deserve a better joke, tho.
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>>35065665
Maybe you should take the time to reflect on why you were drawing Nick's dick in the first place.
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>>35068610
is it really such a sin?
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>>35066708
>There's a worrying amount of Judy sympathizers in here...
No, there's a more worrying amount of, 'Oh my poor waifu Nick got hurt' faggots in here...
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>>35065622
>The jaguar had run his paws all over the bear, from his quivering thighs, to his belly and chest, purring onto Kozlov's dick the whole time.
>The bear's teeth were gritted. A trail of saliva dripped down the side of his mouth, and his eyes were squeezed shut. Manchas was too busy massaging the bear's pecs to notice any of this.
>The jaguar shifted gears and began to move a little faster, then pinched one of Kozlov's nipples, and the bear responded by growling some phrase in his first language. Manchas judged that this was a good thing.
>The bear hunched over, grabbing the jaguar's face with both paws, and began thrusting Manchas' throat.
>"Ah- Ah- AHHH-!" Kozlov screamed something in his language before he blew his entire load in Manchas' mouth, and he was overwhelmed by his own relief and worry. He wanted to make his kitten finish first, not the other way around. He wasn't expecting the cat to pinch his nipple, nor did he expect it to feel so pleasurable, but it caught him off guard.
>The bear opened an eye, still grunting and riding out his orgasm when he saw something that made him feel less self-conscious about his loss of self control.
>Manchas was squirting out his own orgasm, wearing an expression of ecstasy. He greedily swallowed everything Kozlov gave him, bobbing his head slowly and tenderly across the shaft. Manchas had always enjoyed the feeling of someone else finishing inside his mouth; it made him feel needed, and he had always loved to service people. Kozlov was definitely no exception to this rule.
>"Gghh... Kitten." Kozlov chuckled, watching Manchas slowly jerk out the last bit of cum from himself. "You truly enjoyed that, huh?"
>"Mmffmm." The cat replied, his mouth still full of his bear.
>"Ohhh, that's a good kitten." Kozlov was smiling. He reached down and started petting his jaguar, scratching the back of his ear, which Manchas enjoyed immensely. "Who's Kozlov's kitten?"
>Manchas pulled the bear out of his mouth and purred.
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>>35066807
Damn, that's good. I wonder if there's a Marilyn Hopps?
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>>35069008
Well, not if you're a girl I suppose, is that you Rose?
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>>35069311
wow that's sexist
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Wo
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>>35066807
I noticed something in your drawing style, and I'm wondering if it's a preference or if I'm not correctly understanding the perspective of the drawing: Judy's thighs and calves look thinner than in the movie. Is that the style you like?
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>>35069050
>Nick gets kicked in the nuts for something he didn't do nor intended to do
>Zero sympathy
Yeah, that's a certified Judy fag right there. Cringe.
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what if someone drew remmy with a big dick hahahaha
wouldn't that be funny hahahha
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Masochist Remmy
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>>35070735
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>>35066634
>/ck/ visits /ztg/
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>>35070471
>>35070735
>Remmy sends Betty an unsolicited nude, hoping she would storm over and kick his ass
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I understand that this is probably a bit offensive to some palates, and I apologize for that. But I was powerless to stop its march towards realization. This made itself happen
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Don, but he wears rollerblades everywhere even when buildings aren't wheelchair accessible; all while looking super duper serious the whole time
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>>35071085
Hawt
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>>35070814
I can't believe Anneke would make him do that to make up for their botched date
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>>35069656
good eye,anon. i tend a tad bit towards making chars i draw either lankier then they are. i think in this case it just got more obvious since i derived further from judies model to go for that wasp midriff hourglass 50 pinup asthetic. eh and i guess me basicly winging her floofyness on the assumed levels based on her skintight aperancee further murks it up. see pic related thats basicly how i imagine judy under her fur.
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>>35071085
>I'm now imagining bara Nick and Jude mud wrestling and maybe getting hard in the process

Are you trying to make my dick explode?
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>>35071085
>that nick
Big Nickus Wholesome 100
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>>35069265
Thank you for continuing this anon
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>>35069599
Anon, you have a problem. Seek help
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>>35072051
I did, they told me all my issues would go away if I just had sex.
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>>35072087
Let me guess? With Wolter?
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>>35072324
No, with a hooker probably. Though I know the noose is the only thing I will fumble with.
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>>35072627
Hnggggg
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>>35072863
I want to touch the bune ears.
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>>35072981
Work from a true genius.
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May you have a good night /ztg/
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>>35073583
sleep tightl goosey
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>>35073583
Good night, a_sig.
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>Betty will never rape you
It just ain't fair.
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>>35074461
>Betty will never rape you
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>>35074716
>It just ain't fair.
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>>35075952
Remmy's got a nice ass. Wolter even said so
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>>35066807
I wonder if chest fluff is easier to hide/bind down than human breasts, and if Judy actually has a lot there.

Just imagine Nick’s reaction the first time he sees her topless and he sees all that fluff to play with.
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>>35077635
Bear dicks are long, but not that thick. He'll probably bottom-out in her, but not stretch her out uncomfortably
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>>35075952
sad i didnt get to tell lulu how much i like this
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>>35082008
This kinda looks like the cover art of a love novel aimed at lonely housewives
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>>35080330
why is she such a cunt
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Take a look at that snout!
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>>35082904
Damn it, I can’t unsee it now.

Reminds me of this.
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>>35083038
Red and (Gideon) Grey
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>>35083736
I think that Bara Nick pic tangerine made is kinda what Mr. Wilde must've looked like without a shirt
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>>35084489
I bet this dude could squat 90 lbs now
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>>35084875
Will their kid's DNA be fuck up?
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>>35084974
One generation of inbreeding doesn't cause problems very often.
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>>35083038
I like how the picture the artist used for the citycape in the background is a very vertically stretched picture of lower Manhattan. I was straining to figure out what that was until I realized that was the World Financial Center in the middle, just stretched to look twice the height that they normally are
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>>35085313
Ah yes, a great way to start a comic:
Getting queefed on by your lover
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>>35085041
>One generation
>foxes
>>35085313
>>35085334
Uh, what?
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>Marty: Hey Remmy! Me an' my sister are having a barbecue this weekend. She said you're invited.
>Remmy: Really?
>Marty: Yeah! She didn't know where else to get lambchops around here.
>Remmy: So you have chosen death.
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>>35085485
no one:
nobody:
not a single mammal:
remmy cormo: i WaNt To EaT bUg BuRgA
the pack: [everybody disliked that]
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>>35085485
>>35085521
le epic memes, bro
upboat
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>>35085521
This is painful.
I could see Marty saying this out loud, completely unironically, and thinking it's the most hilarious shit ever.
Marty is a well-established redditor, but what sites do the others primarily browse?
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>>35086156
Al is a regular member on two separate fitness forums. He types in all caps and uses ellipses in place of periods, but writes an ellipsis with three commas
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>>35086388
Why something so incredibly specific? And doesn't Al get his strength from just being a blue collar working man?
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>>35086156
Betty uses Facebook for minions memes and horoscope posting.
Al doesn't participate in any online activity, but will frequently look up different grill recipes for block parties. (He isn't a fan of veggies, though.)
Avo has her onlyfans thing, plus this anonymous community that reviews different sex toys.
Anneke and Wolter have pornhub premium accounts which they use to thirst post or occasionally point out which pornstar is which for people who ask. As for Anneke herself, she likes to visit image boards discussing video games she enjoys.
Ozzy has a grindr account that he hasn't touched in a long time. He's caused too many bad experiences with folks around his area, and word spreads fast. The only other way to get some would be to get with folks from further out into the city, and he can't spare the dough to go meet with a guy who's that far out of the way.
Remmy has online friends he messages here and there, though he doesn't exactly consider them friends. His ZooTube account is full of music channels that he's subscribed to, there's liked videos he has of foreign foods being cooked, prank videos, some of it is stuff that Wolter is into.
Charlie has multiple camelslist accounts and a VPN. For her shady business practices.
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>>35086791
Lemme add a little more to Avo's thing.
She also has a Facebook that she uses sparingly. It's a private account that only friended folks can send messages to. She doesn't use it for funny videos but will occasionally like the things that Anneke posts. She sometimes vague posts about gripes she has about work, but her life is basically kept more private than her account.

And Rex saves a lot of ASMR vids and amv's
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>>35086640
Al was always freakishly strong thanks to the wolf genes his hunk daddy gave to him
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<quote>Why something so incredibly specific? And doesn't Al get his strength from just being a blue collar working man?</quote>

ALLRIGHT,,,, LEMME TELL YOU SUMTHIN YOU PENCILNECK SHREW,,, YES IM BUSTIN MY ASS EVERYDAY DOIN REAL LABOR "OUTSIDE",,, RAIN OR SHINE,, SO YOU CAN SIT PRETTY IN AN OFICE N EAT YOURE ADVOCADO TOAST,,,. NO I DONT COMPLANE,,, AND NO I DONT NEED TO PUMP IRON ON TOP OF THAT !!! IM RTHERE TO GIVE ADVISE TO SCRAWNY LIL CLASS E'S THAT NEED IT,,, NOT TO GET ADVISE FROM THEM,,,,,,,,,,, NOW LET ME PASS SUM ADVISE ON TO YOU AND TELL YOU TO POUND SAND,,,, OR TAKE OFF THE FLANNEL AND GET A REAL JOB !!!!!

Sent from my FuzzPhone using Taptotalk

_________________________________
PACK STREET ALPHA
'99 - '04 ZOOTOPIA COAST GUARD
SEMPER FI
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>>35084875
Where is 4ball posting these? Or were they made for the thread directly?
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>>35087120
I think it was part of a comp of sketches
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>>35087120
>>35087149
found it
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>>35085313
futa bunny horsecock
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>>35087090
Oh no.

I'd still suck his dick tho
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>>35064821
>>35065573
why are we getting triggered over a silly comic
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>>35087343
I know it might be hard to imagine, but I don't think he'd let you.
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>>35087391
If I knew it would just take a silly comic, I might have done more
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>>35087090
amazing
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>>35087090
>'99 - '04 ZOOTOPIA COAST GUARD
Y'know, I was gonna make fun of you for this, but I could see it (in a world where Zootopia has a military, that is).
Too dumb for the Air Force, too sane for the Marines, too straight for the Navy.
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>>35087422
I'll have to convince Velvet to give him the okay
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>>35087730
>Too sane for the Marines
I hear that they host a lot of D&D games when they're not shuffling through mud pits, and I can't imagine Al playing that and having a good time with it
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>>35087391
who and where got triggered? This wasn't triggered. Discussing it isn't getting "triggered"
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>>35086156
>Marty is a well-established redditor
You forgot "Frequenter of conspiracy theory blogs"
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>Marty: Yeah! She didn't know where else to get lambchops around here.
>Remmy: Omae wa mou shindeiru
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>want to read a fanfic about a human ending up in Zootopia because I have bad taste
>all of the fics are about highly trained sci-fi soldiers and assassins crushing the world of Zootopia with their superior technology
Why tho?
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>>35089253
Because fuck Zootopia.
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>>35089253
Because unfortunately lots of people who write fanfiction aren't very good writers, compounded with how many just want power fantasy and it ends up producing stuff that's not exactly the greatest. "Garbage in, garbage out" as they'd say.
What would you like to see in a "human ends up in Zootopia" story? Serious question.
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>>35089253
The MLP fandom was rife with that, and I'd wager at least a couple people probably jumped ship at some point.
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>>35089439
Not him, but I feel like Toga's work, 'A World All Her Own', made a compelling enough spin on the otherwise rough genre that there's not really any other ground it needs to cover. It's not my favorite Zootopia fanfic, but it's a solid work that kept me reading it until the end, and that alone makes it a king amongst men in human+Zootopia fanfics.
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>>35089870
I just gave it a very quick glance but isn't that just Judy coming to Earth? Unless they open a portal back through where she came?
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>>35089253
Lack of imagination.

Not that I'm any more original, but the only way I've ever thought to reconcile the dumbassedry that goes with this kinda thing would be... Something thirteenth floor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteenth_Floor

Only the detective's avatar in the sim would be a deer of some kind, investigating Byron Howard's murder.
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>>35090152
>isn't that just Judy coming to Earth?
Yes, and that's about the extent of my tolerance for human+Zootopia fics. I think the inverse is just too prone to failure (i.e. every time) and has probably been permanently tarnished by the sheer volume of misses within it.
>Unless they open a portal back through where she came?
I won't say yes or no because that spoils the ending. But she's tunneled through to our universe to be just within range to make first contact with a team of scientists with the same grace as an episode of Star Trek.
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>>35090295
>I think the inverse is just too prone to failure (i.e. every time)
Why's that?
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>>35090366
The entire conceit of the zoot universe is contingent on the absence of humans. It's literally the first piece of canon information most of us received - remember the first teaser trailer?

And since non-primate mammals in the universe have full human-level sapience and intelligence, there is no reason for actual humans to be around. Their defining sapience is already spoken for.
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>>35090366
I just don't think that the human in Zootopia genre has any potential to offer something fresh in its narrative -- or if it does, I haven't seen it or been able to think of it. The entire premise hinges on there being a human character being plopped into a fantasy world where the canon puts it on the record that humans never existed, and I think one of the better parts about Zootopia's premise is the fact that there's no human presence and never was. And then, once that premise is set in motion, I have never seen (or can't recall, there's too much that I just forgot) one actually take it on a path that you don't expect it to. The human makes contact with Nick and/or Judy or some other character. The human and the character(s) have to try and avoid attention. They get the human to tunnel back to their universe. If the author is really shooting for a self-insert, there's a romance subplot. Yadda yadda. There's very little room for actually subverting the reader's expectations except overturning a core tenet of the premise, which is what A World All Her Own does. And while it also has that same general outline, I think it's inherently more interesting just from the fact that no one did that specific approach before, and that it's a (sapient) mammal being transported into a world with (non-sapient) mammals, rather than a human being transported into a world with no humans. This allows Judy to learn about the vastly different ways that mammals are treated in our universe, which is interesting to me. There's far less room for that in the inverse.
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>>35090695
The only reason we see sapience as our most defining characteristic is because we've encountered absolutely nothing else that possesses it. In a world with lots of other sapient species humans' defining characteristic would be something else. This is most noticeable in sci-fi with aliens where humans' defining characteristic usually ends up being ingenuity, resilience, or something like that. While not exactly novel it also shows that humans' defining characteristic being something other than sapience isn't exactly a crazy proposition. There's plenty of things you could write as the most notable things about humans- you could just go with it being ingenuity anyways, but you'd have to be fairly ingenious yourself to have something that didn't make everyone else seem like bumbling idiots; you could have it be dexterity, with humans being the most adept tool users with the greatest capacity for mastery of all sorts of things that follow as a result of simply being able to use tools the best; you could have it be endurance, showing humans' ability to continually keep pressing forwards, effectively becoming the embodiment of "if you're going through hell, keep going"; or you could have it be the other sort of endurance, if you're just looking for a bit of smutty action.
I think that's one of the things that's a big opportunity for anything like this- the ability to explore humans' place in the world and what makes us unique beyond sapience alone.
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>>35090719
I'm of the opinion that doing something well is a thousand times more important than doing something new, and perhaps unsurprisingly, I also think it's a bit of a trap to fall into just looking for expectations to be subverted (aside from expecting a story to be shit and it turning out well).
Other than that I'm not really sure what to address.
Is it really just the repetitiveness of the stories going
>The human makes contact with Nick and/or Judy or some other character.
>The human and the character(s) have to try and avoid attention.
>They get the human to tunnel back to their universe.
>If the author is really shooting for a self-insert, there's a romance subplot.
that makes you disinterested?
If so, how do you think one could deviate from that? If not, what else is it about these stories that makes you dissatisfied with them?
Do you believe that the premise of putting a human in Zootopia is inherently flawed in some way?
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Pros
>He's real
Cons
>No smug fox baker bf
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>>35092144
Pros
>This explains what he is
Cons
>Humans in Zootopia are made canon by Disney
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>>35092144
What's wrong with having a smug human baker bf?
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Nothing. I'd just prefer Gideon to stay as an anthrophomorphic fox.
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>>35093043
>Al allows Charlie to practice her illegal business dealings
>Al doesn't infringe on his packmates freewill even if it costs them their safety
>Therefore, Al would totally let Remmy whore himself out for burgas
Best dad
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"humans never happened" is one of the most attractive parts of the zootopia universe for me

we have almost all of the rest of human narrative output to tell stories about humans; I like giving the intelligence and tool mastery and endurance to other characters and seeing what happens.

Now, yes, to some degree is it just a palette swap, in that the characters in the story have to be relatable to humans. And in a lot of ways Zoot is more of a palette swap than most - characters wear clothes, go to work, use iphones, the whole nine yards. But I have found it's the explicitly nonhuman parts that set them apart - varied species traits, predator/prey divides, the physiological need for different environments and biomes, and especially scale. When that gets added to the human relatability, the world and the stories become really ripe for exploration.
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>>35091643
I'm not the anon you replyed to, but yeah, that's exactly what I don't want to read in a Zoot fic.

>the ability to explore humans' place in the world and what makes us unique beyond sapience alone.
Considering that one of Zootopia's core tenets is "no humans", Zoot is simply the wrong medium to make this exploration. Star Trek, for instance, would be much more fitting. Hell, Disney's The Rescuers would be more fitting since it canonically has both humans and anthro animals in the same world.

But also, since we humans already rule IRL, I just have no need for a "Hey look we still rule with this one thing" story.
Furthermore, in a world where everyone is sapient, it does feel unbelievable to me that humans have this one other trait that we're better at against over 6000 different mammal species. I mean, it's a bit narcissistic, isn't it?

When I read Zootopia, I want to learn about their way of life, their customs, and their traditions. And it fascinates me to no end how much variety there could be in their culture considering how many different species there are. I love stories with Judy and Nick that includes rabbit and fox cultures and seeing them trying to live their life together despite the clashing of said cultures. It's without a doubt all the non-human things that interest me the most.
And there is only one Zootopia. 99% of everything else out there has humans in it. So yeah, it does make me sad to see people trying to shove humans in when they already have plenty of outlets of humans (including "humans are awesome") everywhere else.

Last thing. Human/Rabbit hybrids! Holy fuck I am never going to get that nightmare out of my brain. Yeah, that was one of those humans in Zootopia stories. Like, the main character, a human, got together with Judy and they fucked and made babies. I can deal with Judy and Nick hawing babies, I mean two fluffy species that okay. But this ugly ape-like creature of a human together with a rabbit!? Fuck no!
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>>35094371
> Like, the main character, a human, got together with Judy and they fucked and made babies.

Ah yes, I remember a fic like that. The human MC was partially responsible for Nick’s death (negligence or something), Judy hated him for a time then fell in love with him, they fucked, he died and she had his babies.
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>>35094715
does anyone actually enjoys stories like that except for the fucked up person that writes them?
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>>35094790
I guess people who would want to write those things themselves? I read them only out of some morbid curiosity. After Zootopia Chronicles, the pinnacle of terrible self-insert human x Judy stories, nothing fazes me anymore.
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>>35088733
Aww! Poor Judy -- he'll back back soon!
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God damn it Nobby moved blogs.
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>>35095760
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>>35096202
no
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>>35096202
Requesting some honey being lewd in the shower!
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>>35096202
stu x bonnie
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I love your Kiis

More Kii
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>>35096202
Something to mark the new year? It could be pretty much anything, but I would implore you to think of a scenario you've not really covered before
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>>35096202
Tubedudes
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>>35096202
casual/public nudity? maybe kii or violet
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>>35096202
https://piczel.tv/watch/TGGeko

Alright, might as well stream the requests
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>>35097198
Nick, please. Stop being gay. Judy needs you
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>>35097151
aw man, can't join, but I wish you a good stream!

Do fit in some wholesome wildehopps stuff, lewd or sfw doesn't matter, just need something rn! Thank you in advance!
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>>35088733
Has she been stood up on a date 'cause that doesn't look like the view from her apartment?
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>>35098241
>Has she been stood up on a date 'cause that doesn't look like the view from her apartment?
I wonder if this after their falling out.
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>>35096770
Judy incredible comes out of retirement...
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>>35093532
>to some degree is it just a palette swap
Not replying to this post in particular, but the theme. I was relating Roommates to somebody what with the 'Stranger in a Strange Land' concept, when we realised that it is exactly that, it didn't need to be human Mike amongst a bunch of anthro furrys, it could have just been a white guy living in a ghetto, oh wait, I've read that one somewhere...
I think the human in Zootopia could be a short story;
>Weird scientific experiment transposes some bumbling human janitor onto a Zootopian highway, whereupon he gets flattened by an elephant car.
>The story follows the Zootopian scientists trying to figure out what the bloody smear on the highway was.
>The End.
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>>35086886
>She doesn't use it for funny videos but will occasionally like the things that Anneke posts.

I like this, she does care about the other members of the pack, just in her own way. Still say she was trying to push Annie and Remmy towards each other by getting her riled up by flirting with him in front of her.
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>>35088733
The caption to this is:

> Closer to the dream, farther from the happiness.

I wonder if this is some situation where Judy prioritized work over Nick and misses him. Maybe Bogo separated them, considering that drawing of his head with “evil” next to it.
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>>35097062
how about both
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>>35097722
and some new years wildehopps stuff. thanks for watching
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>>35101974
Oh hell yeah

>>35101995
You spoil us

Thanks for streaming tgg! Was comfy and fun.
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Man, I'm working myself into an anxious mess over the likelihood of the CASE Art destroying fan content.
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>>35102009
You can't just touch a sheep's cunt!
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>>35105241
How many cubs do you see in zoot? not that many.
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>>35068968
I'm thinking Arbys
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>>35105320
Judy is all the cub we need
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>>35103328
Quick question, why would you need projectiles in a dating sim?
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>>35106557
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>>35106578
to kill anyone that could take your date :V
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>>35094371
I suppose we're now running into "why bother making it a fanfic rather than just it's own story" and that's somewhat understandable.
>I just have no need for a "Hey look we still rule with this one thing" story.
I think making the story about that alone would be sort of failing to make a story.
>it does feel unbelievable to me that humans have this one other trait that we're better at against over 6000 different mammal species. I mean, it's a bit narcissistic, isn't it?
Not really. You wouldn't call it narcissistic for hyenas to have the strongest bites, cheetahs to be the fastest runners, or anything else like that, because that's just the way things are. It's inevitable that there's going to be someone that's the best in something, especially considering just how many species there are.
>When I read Zootopia...
I get that. It's a nice feeling to get absorbed into a new and unique world that makes you feel that sense of mysticism and child-like wonder. Though with the way Zootopia is it doesn't really seem like there's all that many differences in between all of them that you wouldn't already find between different groups of humans. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, just that I wouldn't exactly look to Zootopia as a paragon of distinct and vibrant cultures of sapient animal people societies.
>Last thing. Human/Rabbit hybrids! Holy fuck I am...
Won't argue with you there. I find hybrids in general disgusting. I know it might be a cop out to some but I just don't do hybrids at all (besides the ones we already see in our world).
>But this ugly ape-like creature of a human together with a rabbit!? Fuck no!
Careful there, your misanthropy is showing.
>>35099141
Sure, it doesn't 'need' to be, but making it "just a white guy living in a ghetto" would require making some serious sacrifices.
>oh wait, I've read that one somewhere...
Have you?
>I think the human in Zootopia could be a short story;
You too, see the above.
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>>35103328
>those eyes
Purple?!
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>>35107836
he's rinehart :v i use him as a punching bag
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>>35107753
Did you missed my sarcasm, or didn't I do it right?
Mentioned Roommates, then had a go at Pack Street although I will admit that Weaver did better in the second one at describing the mammalian differences, I think?
The 'short story' is a black humour gag.
And yeah, no hybrids, everything would end up a merge of everything, and I shudder to think what 'IT' would look like.
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>>35108253
>Did you missed my sarcasm, or didn't I do it right?
It was probably me missing it since I just woke up.
>Weaver did better in the second one at describing the mammalian differences, I think?
I think that's partially because he wanted them to be closer to humans in Roommates, as is partially apparent in them being sized around regular human heights, than the animals of the world of Zootopia are.
>The 'short story' is a black humour gag.
You mean dark humor?
>I shudder to think what 'IT' would look like.
Do I even want to know what 'IT' is?
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Easily.
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>>35089414
WTF! When did Lionheart opened up the Based District?
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>>35104915
Good night!
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>>35108417
‘IT’, I assume, is the end result of Zootopians capable of hybrids. Some horrid abomination with traits of every single mammal in existence.
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>>35107753
>It's inevitable that there's going to be someone that's the best in something
I was pitching 6000 mammals against humans. Not the animals against themselves. Yes, there are going to be key animals that are the best at certain things. But humans being among those key animals when everyone is sapient is just pure fiction. I do find it amusing, that you used ingenuity as one of the examples. You're basically saying "We're all sapient, but humans are just this tiny bit smarter anyway". Just can't let go of that human self-perception of being the smartest in the room.
Okay, to be fair you did provide other examples as well. But still, are we really the most dexterous among 6000 other mammal species? The most enduring? You're simply elevating humans to having a unique skill/ability through fictitious means, as opposed to all the other animals who got their place in the hierarchy through actual facts, as you listed yourself i.e. cheetahs to be the fastest runners, etc.
Narcissistic may not be the right word, but I do get the picture of someone who likes to pat his own back - and they're doing it for something made up. Not my cup of tea.

>Careful there, your misanthropy is showing.
It really couldn't be further from the truth. Human achievements are definitely something to be admired and celebrated.
But when it comes to looks? Well, this is very subjective of course, but I do definitely find certain mammals to be a lot more aesthetically pleasing to look at than a human. And I don't think I'm the only one thinking like that. If you have a crowd of people and showed them pictures of small kittens or kit foxes etc. the crowd would go "awww" but show them pictures of infant human babies and the "awww" would be substantially subdued. Humans find animals, at least baby animals in most cases, a lot cuter than their own species. Kinda messed up, but it's how it is. So yeah, compared to an anthro rabbit, like Judy, I do think the word ugly is fitting for a human.
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>>35109008
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>>35110080
Not that anon, but humans are probably one of the best among animals in endurance running.
A part of this is because of bipedalism but also because of the long length of legs (compared to body size), sweating + naked skin fr better thermoregulation and several changes in the foot and articulations' structures that gives us an adantage (compared to a regular zootopian).
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>>35110080
>But humans being among those key animals when everyone is sapient is just pure fiction.
But why? What is it that makes you think that having humans be one of the species that is the best at something isn't just unlikely but is absolutely unthinkable and "pure fiction?"
>I do find it amusing...
I just said that you could easily still have that be one of the things (or the sole thing) that humans are known for. Not that it would be or even should be, just that you could have it be anyways.
>are we really the most dexterous among 6000 other mammal species?
Yes. Our hands are by far the most adept at tool use. The only ones besides other primates (which don't exist in Zootopia) that even come close to us are rats are raccoons. Evolved, sapient rats and raccoons I could absolutely see being able to use tools perfectly fine, but still not to the extent that humans are able. And Zootopia (thankfully) didn't go the route of Beastars with just giving them fur-covered human hands, so this absolutely stands.
>The most enduring?
In being able to keep ourselves moving over long distances? Yes. In terms of toughness and survivability? Probably not, but certainly on the higher end. Also the other anon mentioned sweating and leg length which I somehow completely forgot about. Sweating is something else that is not only a massive benefit to humans but is also something almost completely unique to humans (in other animals that do sweat it's done almost exclusively in their paws with some in the mouth as well). Leg length isn't as notable if they're willing to run on all fours, but it would give humans a significant boost in regular walking speed.
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>>35110080
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>You're simply elevating humans to having a unique skill/ability through fictitious means
Now you're just lying. I've explained many things we're better or outright the best at and you've just ignored them for 'some' reason. There's not much point in pointing out how the act of anthropomorphizing animals in and of itself is literally elevating animals to having skills and abilities that are seen solely in humans, but just remember that anyways.
>as opposed to all the other animals who got their place in the hierarchy through actual facts
Their place in the hierarchy is beneath humans. Assuming anything else without offering good reason for it is either giving massive benefit of the doubt to them or massively disparaging us. You haven't offered any reason as to why humans wouldn't still be on top overall and(/or at least) the best in several major things other than "well we're giving them human characteristics so that would completely flip it on its head but only for humans." Even if we left humans' advantages at dexterity alone that would be an enormously noteworthy thing in the world of Zootopia. If you want to believe sapience for all mammals would completely upset the hierarchy seen in reality, that's fine, reasonable even, but in the world of Zootopia big predators are still clearly at the top despite being outnumbered 10:1. Everyone is, at least for the most part, right in their place in the hierarchy. Why would humans suddenly be an exception, especially to this of all things?
>It really couldn't be further from the truth.
>he says, after having simply handwaved away some of humans' most noteworthy aspects other than sapience and just before going on to talk more about how ugly humans are
Just remember that the characters you see are cartoons; they're idealized, cleaned up, and more palatable versions of reality.
So anyways, are there any ways you think a "human in Zootopia" story could be done better or do you just have an issue with humans?
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>>35110674
>Their place in the hierarchy is beneath humans.
>You haven't offered any reason as to why humans wouldn't still be on top overall
I should also add-
No, of course I don't think any random human in Zootopia would somehow elevate himself above everyone else to "fulfill" his place in the hierarchy, as it were. I was speaking about humans in general and as a group.
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>>35110187
Yeah, I actually did read that once. And I also think I read that endurance running was one of the very few branches of sports where women could outperform men. Something to do with their ability to give birth or something.

Well, it's something. But considering how Zootopians have evolved I'm not so sure if this one still stands. Either way, turning to a Zoot fic, of all things, in order to be educated on human's ability to run for a very long time is not something I seek.

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>>35110674
Sorry, anon but I have to leave this for someone else to answer. I think I have said what I wanted to say, and at this point, I'm just going to repeat myself. If you want to write a human in Zoot story I won't stand in your way. But I won't read it, that's for sure.
Let me also point out that when I do look for human achievements and accomplishments I usually do it through Wikipedia, history books, and documentaries. I'm far more fascinated with what we do IRL as opposed to our imagined prowess against imaginary animals. I'm really not trying to be a douche here, if you truly enjoy "humans are the best at" stories, then more power to you. Go ahead and write it.
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>>35111045
Could you at least answer that last question? This was never really supposed to be about what humans can do as compared to sapient animals.
>I'm far more fascinated with what we do IRL as opposed to our imagined prowess against imaginary animals. I'm really not trying to be a douche here, if you truly enjoy "humans are the best at" stories, then more power to you. Go ahead and write it.
And could you also stop being such a passive-aggressive prick?
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>>35104448
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>And could you also stop being such a passive-aggressive prick?
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>>35112032
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>>35102335
>>35102358
>Duke lewds
YES
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>>35112605
I know. I love how turned on he is, it's almost precious.
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>humans can eat chocolate
>humans can drink coffee
>humans can eat spicy food (well, Caucasians struggle at this but they still can)
A human in Zootopia would be able to wow everyone by eating weird and borderline poisonous shit.
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>>35112815
>>humans can drink coffee
So can civets. It's not really that special of an ability.
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>>35099265
>no one put the goose to sleep
SHAME

>>35102009
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>>35112448
Yes, but also acceptable to be passive aggressive.
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>>35113104
No it's not, nigger.
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>>35112876
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>>35113141
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Is this the most autistic general in /trash/?
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>>35113238
I don't believe in Fine Auts
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>>35113238
Not as long as the half-dozen Kpop generals and the 10 separate slutposting generals share the board with us.
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>>35113271
This is a bit hypocritical seeing how I'm on a Zootopia general right now but whenever I see a /co/ general on /trash/ I consider it a red flag and decide not to watch it. The Owl House is a recent example.
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>>35113238
No, why?
>>35113369
Why's that?
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>>35113369
/co/ threads on /trash/ is usually because the janny deletes any thread he doesn't like, especially webcomics and actual cartoons.
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>>35113608
Why doesn't /co/ just split up into a comic board and a cartoon board?
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>>35113668
Because that's something users would want. Hiroshimoot is currently too busy with his plan to split /v/ into 12 boards even though no one asked or wanted him to do that.
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>>35113668
Because vst, vr and vmg got made.
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>>35113668
Might as well take anime from /a/ and make a one for manga and comics.
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>>35113608
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>>35113703
I really don't like the ongoing trend towards splitting everything into ever-smaller competing camps. I think it's bad on a social and cultural level, encouraging factionalism and competition where there's no need for it, or even any conceivable positive point to it.
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>>35113704
>/vmg/ was made
>all of the gacha generals stay on /vg/
Based.
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>>35089253
Would it be better if the sci-fi soldiers were there and just messing with their world? The true source of the sheeps recipes for the drugs. Meanwhile they sell them their prisoners and other resources/information.
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>>35111334
>things I dislike
>That fucking lipstick and eyeshadow
Perhaps vintage, but trashy.
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>>35114865
agreed, we judge heavily those who hide Judy's natural beauty under a mascara
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>>35113949
That still is funny because it allowed games that pissed janny off to have proper threads on vst and vmg. Maybe that was the point, but dodging obsessive people is a blessing in itself.
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>>35113703
some of the users want. I dont want it.
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>>35114975
I wanna smooch Nick super bad
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>>35115114
What games pissed a janny off so hard that a strategy board had to be made? Does Mount and Blade really make someone seethe uncontrollably?
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Did you know that ungulates have their own form of heat but for males? It's called rut. Male goats and sheep have to go through the feeling of being perpetually horny and needing to cum in something.

I wonder what would happen if both Remmy and Betty had their little rut/heat episodes at the same time...
>Remmy would just hide inside his apartment and not let anyone inside because he's horny and scared of being ridiculed for it
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>>35115721
I dont think that was the case, it was less a strategy game and more a game that is barely strategy that a janny flipped of being posted rather than the 7th smash bros or shazam thread
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>>35115831
Also, I misunderstood, I think the point was always make vst, just some games used the oportunity to flee v
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What makes /co/ any better than trash? I feel there's more room for discussion on here than there is in /co/ because there aren't any jannies with discord energy going on power trips and banning people for content they don't care about
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>>35115731
I'd prefer to see Remmy in rut even if no one else is in season.
Like just gracelessly, overtly hitting on his neighbors in a raunchy yet desperate swagger.
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>>35115256
I would rather have Bara Nick completely engulf me in his hulking arms and chest. Bonus points if he's wearing his winter coat and this combines with his muscle mass to create a bear hug so powerful that the sheer volume of oxytocin released into my bloodstream causes cardiac arrest, and I die from what's essentially a biological morphine overdose
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>>35115903
All species under 6 feet are manlets and thus not bara. Try Mr. Manchas or the tiger dancers.
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>>35115903
>When you want something that'll never happen
It's not fair bros
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>>35115954
Size is relative. If you're a tiny 2ft otter then a beefcake 3ft fox is bara.
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>>35116107
>beefcake 3ft fox

What oc are you talking about?
Because Nick is a twink.
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>>35116107
If I'm 6'8" I'm basically shit outta luck in that department huh?
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>>35116420
>Nick is a twink
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>>35116463
Bara giraffe
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>Bara tubes
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>>35115731
>>35115900
Does heat or its equivalents even exist in Pack Street canon?
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Unless posting suddenly breaks within the hour, I'm probably going to still be out of the house when the thread reaches page 10. If somebody literate could make the next thread in my place, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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>>35117255
Somebody fill the next OP with ebonics.
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>>35117454
Ebonics is actually incorrect, as it isn't just phonetics but an entire system of grammar as well, the correct term is AAVA or if you still wanna be offensive but accurate, Black Speak
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>>35116864
Considering that Remmy thought Al and Betty were in heat at one point I'd assume so.
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>And I'm here to cuck Nick.
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>>35117934
>just a human penis
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>>35117673
I feel like Remmy now contextualizes dominance displays like they're sparring matches. If his parents were to see that and assume the worst he'd tell them that and that it's okay, but they wouldn't listen and yell at him for thinking like he's a wolf
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>>35117934
>”Get in the back of the line.”
>Nick points to a line of various bunnies, foxes, and some other mammals.





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