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/ZTG/ - Zootopia General: Rad Graffiti Edition

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>>27176245
Cheer up Mr Civet, you've done a lot of rad stuff and I'm sure you'll do even more in the future. Like posting last night rad pics from the stream...
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comicpile is officially over. thanks to everyone who contributed
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you fools you forgot to link at 10
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>>27176888
lol i started the thread at the exact moment the old one 404'd
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>>27176818
Thanks you, I hope I will be able to! And sure thing! I kinda hoped to sketch some more today and upload them together, but got a bit side-tracked, so I guess I can share them for now.
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>>27177007
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>>27177007
Always love anything that entails winter coats

>>27177026
And this Honey, what a sweet badger she is.
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If one more thread dies before the link, I'm going to go werewolf.
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>>27176763
One of the only things I liked from that Disney Battle Heroes thing was that Finnick was a tagger, the kind that makes graffiti art not the person/other worldly monster combine symbiot that fights against other more evil tagger's to protect humanity from the old gods and crusty aliens.
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>>27177007
I don't know why, but I just realise that I perceive the rounded end of the foxes tail as feminine?
Is this supposed to be Nick?
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>>27176763
Speaking of rad foxes, I've uploaded videos of the last party club.

>The making of rad fox
https://youtu.be/3KUzodUCIv8

>E
https://youtu.be/fSaqVmwQwts

>Otterly is a communist and Rob is a monster
https://youtu.be/Hcr9ElgJVbU

>Losing at Trivia Murder Party
https://youtu.be/2VbZtlQIAJ4
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>>27177007
<3
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>>27177403
it's Nick, the tails is just round cuz it's extra fluffly because of the winter coat
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>>27177570
It is extra fluffy, but I feel it could be even more extra fluffy!
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>>27177403
Foxes (and cats) are often incorrectly portrayed with a pointy tail. They're normally round. They're only pointy when they're young.
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>>27177587
you mean it could be... extra extra fluffy?
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>>27177631
Ultra fluffy!
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>>27177775
Mega fluffy!
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>*steals ur property*
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>>27178109
>*steals his virginity*
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I wanna see Marty in his winter coat walking around looking like Al's talking penis
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>>27178170
I like the idea of Marty hiding beside Al, camouflaging himself perfectly with all that white fur.
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>>27178109
Typical thieving fox
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>>27178170
I wanna see Marty in his winter coat TF into Al's talking penis
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>>27177775
Just realised that without ears, the smol mammal looks like a human.
Is that Judy or a tube?
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>>27178197
racist
that is his culture
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>>27178170
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>>27178662
Thank you, Zootopia has free healthcare.
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>>27178189
>Hey, Al. Since when did you grow a pair of eyes on your leg? They look scared.
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>>27178407
>"I think I've found that tiger's watch.."
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Well, this took longer than I thought...
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H*ofers. They only have three fingers. Which finger do they put a wedding ring on?

>>27178842
>asking for this
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>>27179039
Their ring finger
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repostin'
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These threads need more studbunnies
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May you have a good night /ztg/
Also tell me who to draw for anatomy study, lewd or not lewd
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>>27179475
I agree. Imagine getting completely destroyed by a smaller dude. You can control their weight, but they have a huge amount of leverage on you in the bedroom
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>>27179639
I hear that historical badger ladies are extremely good for anatomy studies...

Snooze loose goose.
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>>27179639
Sleep warm tuber
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>>27179639
I was going to say something else but i'm gonna second that badger post.
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>>27176888
nice trips :v here's a sammich
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>>27179736
Envious of Calvins position so bad, just a big, warm badger beneath him...
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>>27179854
>Kevin's famous Grilled Cheese
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>Velvet giving Al a kiss on the cheek in front of everyone.
>He's gotten good at preventing his tail from giving away his true feelings, but he can't stop from wagging it ever so slightly.
>He quickly brings his paw to behind to hold it still, much to everyone's amusement.
>After the doe says her goodbyes and leaves, everybody teases him for it.
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>>27179749
God I want to fuck Hilde so baaaad...
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>>27180841
thick
badger
hams
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>>27180994
It's a regional dialect
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>>27181054
From Albunny?
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>>27181069
Yes.
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please gimme violet headcanons
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>>27181084
Violet fucks
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>>27181084
She's not actually interested in Rinehart.
She's only been licensed to use a new experimental therapy treatment to act as a temporary lover figure.
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>>27181084
Shes not a therapist. She's just a NERD!
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>>27181084
My favorite headcanon is that she's one of the burrow's many teachers and the reason she was so worried about Judy is that she still thinks of her as a little kit.
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>>27181084
Trans violet
She's still a bottom but she has a cute feminine penis now
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>>27181186
Gross
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>>27181230
Calling me a degenerate only makes me stronger anon
My kink is shaming
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>>27181186
Violet's dick is manly as hell and makes Rinehart feel emasculated
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>>27181258
I'll accept this
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>>27181258
How does a dick become "manly?"
Is it just that much bigger than his?
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>>27181314
Violet's thick, veiny, musk-heavy cock
Rinehart shrinks three sizes when she whips it out
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>>27181349
>Rinehart shrinks three sizes
my fetish
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>>27181084
Violet has a crush on one of her female colleagues
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I'm curious,
How many people outside of /ztg/ do we know about that are into Pack Street?
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>>27181084
She's like Judy when it comes to dealing with personal problems. She'll power through them with unfailing determination, but she's not as upbeat about it. She'll drag her feet, yeah, but her head will be held high the whole time because while she's not confident in how the world treats her, she's confident in her own abilities to push back against it.
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>>27181799
This but she also sucks at paintball.

>>27181715
Not sure how to quantify that Anon since I don't really pay that much attention to zoot content and discussion outside of ZTG. I see some pack street pics from people I don't know get dropped in the threads sometimes though.
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>>27181715
Ive seen a handful of Pack Street pics on FA, and this guy was the most prominent for awhile
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>>27181930
his Pack Street stuff is pretty damn good, too bad he doesnt draw much
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>>27181084
She has an imposter complex. She doesn't think she's doing as well as she should be, and beats herself up over her own perceived short comings. Rinehart's rare smile during their sessions helps to alleviate this.

Also, she used to be speciest before Judy changed her and her family's minds about foxes. She decided to move to Zootopia in order to be more open-minded and met Rinehart from there.

She began to discover... Certain aspects about herself while in the city that never would've come to light if she remained in Bunnyburrow.
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>>27181963
>She began to discover... Certain aspects about herself while in the city that never would've come to light if she remained in Bunnyburrow.

>"Wow, I can't believe how much I'm loving the knot! Thank you fat pie Nick."
>"No problem glasses Judy."
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>>27182037
Why is Gideon not in Bunnyburrow
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>>27182083
His pies could not be contained to the burrows.
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>>27178109
Swiper no swiping.
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>>27182106
Oh, so there's plenty of fox to go around. Nice.
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>>27180994
Imagine getting your head in between those perfect thighs
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>>27179356
I know I'm probably going to start an argument but, I think it would be nice if good artists could do canon versions of their works before going on to their fettish, persuasion or whatever.
And before everyone tries to call me out, remember, we are based on Zootopia, and even though we know Howard and Moore's background, they created a movie with little suggestions, not screaming flag waving.
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>>27179854
So when the grilled hits the floor, do you have a five second counter appear above it?
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おはよう!!
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>>27182379
If you want more art of Judy and Nick why not just make your own instead of taking someone else's work and twisting it to fit your own fetish, persuasion or whatever.
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>>27182379
epic post
have you considered: drawing your own shit
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>>27182379
God I cant imagine feeling like there arent enough Nick and Judy pics out there
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>>27182379
>they created a movie with little suggestions, not screaming flag waving.

Okay, one, they had to scrap the entire first premise per suggestion, and two, we're just having fun here, nobody's screaming. Not yet, anyway.
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>>27182379
>>27182474
>>27182514
>>27182554
Honestly, I can kind of see both sides to the story.

I don't think it's quite unreasonable to be offput by the idea of Nick being shipped with someone other than Judy, since the movie has made such a strong suggestion that Nick is only ever going to want Judy.
On the other hand, it really is a valid concern that there are people who would take this to an unhealthy extreme, almost to the point of policing what other people draw.
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>>27182583
For a second I thought you were suggesting people drawing what they like were the ones policing content or making brainlet posts like that kek
Honestly though if nick and judy from disney's zootopia isn't a topic you can't find enough content to be satisfied with, shit son
I see no merit in anything he posted, just empty bitching with just the smallest hint of ew-gay
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>>27182580
*ahem*

>deafening stereo gekkering
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To cap my attention given to that post though, my response is unchanged
"Damn bitch draw your own shit"
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man, sometimes i wish i could draw
but then i realize i'd have to practice fundamentals
and nobody likes doing that
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>>27182712
Speak for yourself
And then reflect a bit on what you said
Wishing is for idiots
All it takes to do just about anything on this planet is just to do it
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>>27182712
I took two art classes in high school and I dont remember shit I just try to make pictures look not bad
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>>27182379
nobody cares about zoot here, why do you think any beastars update gets 300 posts here and saying "go to beastars general" gets a reply saying "if you like pack street then you must accept beastars is ztg material"?
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>>27182762
What the fuck are you even talking about
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>>27182762
send this post back to the kitchen, too much salt
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>>27182753
let me rephrase that:
anyone who likes drawing the same circle for 10 hours a day every day is actually insane

they could probably be a serial killer, who knows?
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>>27182821
You dont have to do anything you dont want to man
Like, art should be fun if youre doing it as a hobby, if you want to jump right into doing pics of your favorite characters then nobody should stop you
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>>27182821
If that's actually how you think fundamentals are learned it makes sense that you don't find drawing fun
What you want is a product
You need to want the labor just as badly, otherwise pick a trade that pays well enough you can pay others to illustrate your mind's eye without making excuses
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>>27182856
He's gotta break the idea that grinding lineweight to mastery or drawing perfect circles is the key to getting the refined end result he's looking for or he's never going to have fun doing it anyway.
Art is something you do because it is fun to put a pencil on a paper and make a doodle rabbit that does funny faces.
You keep doing that because it's fun and eventually (w/ effort+EFFECTIVE study as you decide its time to put those into your life) you end up making the finished products that you see that made your nuts tingle at the fantasy of "being able to draw like that someday".
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>>27182975
>you end up making the finished products that you see that made your nuts tingle at the fantasy of "being able to draw like that someday"
From what I hear, most artists never actually achieve this
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>>27183008
Its hard to get off to your own work because youre more focused on all your mistakes than anything else
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Well, that didn't go as badly as I expected, all the usual responses.
I guess I just needed to vent after the frustration of >>27178842 , but truth is, my artwork is not too good and it's easy to get intimidated by better artists, but I feel I have a dab hand at (ok, I'll say it,) forging, and if anything, this is becoming my way of learning better techniques in digital art.
Not saying that I succeed, but I hope the works I 'edit' still look like the original artists work?
So, we all getting ready for Christmas?
>humbug!
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>>27183008
Achievement of something without objective value is vague enough that I believe it
The best thing one can do is apply one's self and not subject themselves to a series of ever-moving goalposts and instead pursue "good enough"
You'll get happy with your art someday if you stay on top of your mental well-being and maintain and reward yourself for the continued refinement of skilled labor
Everything off that mark is the territory of impostor syndrome and and values imbalance as far as I'm concerned
Some people have to work harder than others to do this maintenance as well, and some have limits to their abilities and energy that they need to make accommodations in their self-assessment for
It's like how everyone draws differently
You have to compare yourself more than anything in the contexts of your current, past, and idealized self and perform pretty much constant sanitation of your projected abilities to make sure you aren't trying to be someone else or make someone else's art
Before any of that though, you have to put a pencil on a paper and start moving it
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>>27183140
On topic, fuck off, you, specifically.
Draw your own shit without parasitizing the creations of others to suit your own tastes.
Either pay them to draw what you want or fuck off to find art you don't have to insult the artist by "fixing" because you can't stand a dick.
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>>27183232
Not him, but god damn you sure are salty.
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>>27183316
Dude, dont """fix""" people's art without their permission
Thats rude as all hell
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>>27183339
Did you even read my post?
I literally just said I wasn't him.
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>>27183350
and I was explaining why they had a problem with it
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>>27183316
no anon has a point this is scummy as fuck
complete bottom feeder
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>>27183316
Find a content creator that disagrees, I'll wait
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>>27183365
>>27183368
>>27183406
And what exactly is the problem with editing artwork that's already free?
Unless someone is deliberately charging people for modifying works that have been made by someone else, how exactly does it hurt the original artist?
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>>27183141
I'm generally happy with 'good enough', but even though I'm only doing this for fun, pushing the concentration helps me to de-stress.
I first got here and saw Weavers stuff and thought, yeah that looks easy enough to emulate and expand on, until I really got into it and discovered just how much influence can be generated by the subtle twist of a line.
They might look like squiggles, but the guy is a master.
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>>27183457
I literally just said its fucking rude
Like, not illegal, RUDE
As in the kinda thing people will dislike you for
Because we're people and not fucking art machines
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>editing artwork just so you can jack off to it
top kek
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>>27183538
What?
How did you even come to the conclusion that edits are somehow an insult?
People aren't going to be able to cater to everyone else's preferences.
How would it be insulting for someone to take what someone else did, and turn it into something they can enjoy even more?
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I have edited art here a for a joke every now and then, I'm not trying to "fix" it or anything, should I stop doing that?
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>>27183689
Imagine putting years of labor and hours of specific effort into any given piece of skilled work and finding out someone is tacking on edits to it because they didn't like what you made
But they don't have the balls to engage you at all as a creator, and only want to cannibalize and parasitize your work like you're a fucking performing monkey
Imagine having the gall to not just ignore that work but put your own "fixes" onto it because you want to consume this product, but not how it was created
And you don't even have the fucking stones to talk to the person who made the thing you like 90% of, like an absolute fucking coward
Imagine taking that free, public work and changing it into something "bespoke" in the most chickenshit way possible

Fuck your preferences
If you want straight art of nick and judy you can buy that bespoke product or wait for your request to get picked up for free
Imagine having the fucking audacity to insert yourself into the narrative because you didn't get your personal wants fulfilled
It would be like inserting your mixtape into a recording of a symphony orchestra and "giving it away for free" in front of where they're performing
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>>27183689
You dont see how "ew gays let me turn it into something straight" can be taken as an insult?
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>>27183689
Because it's not even a valid criticism, it's taking what they put their time into and changed it to something different without them even agreeing.
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>>27183761
I'm not even touching the veiled homophobia anymore than I have, at one of our most visible and active creators of queer content no less
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>>27183749
comes from a total values disconnect honestly
with people that don't respect art or artists
"I don't understand why art is different from anything else I consume. What's the big deal?"
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>>27183406
Its fundamentally no different from coloring linework. Another artist comes along and changes your work in a way they like.
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>>27183893
I honestly don't have the time to explain to you how bad this take is lmao
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>>27183893
I fundamentally don't like when people color my stuff without asking.
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>>27183893
ask anyone who colors linework for people if they agree with you
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>>27183893
we have people like ACA who made their name coloring peoples works but thats always been respectful and builds on whats been done in the past with reverence for the initial work
its never destructive as a matter of enforcing personal taste
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>>27183689
Anon is joking. Most artists here don't mind it. These threads edit my stuff several times to make it gay or straight or with their OCs, it's all fair game. Even saw edits of my stuff in futa, pregnancy, fat and raceplay threads with all kind of edits, it's 4chan and more importantly, drawn porn on a throwaway moniker. He's parodying twitter/da kids who break down when people edit their character with a maga hat or saying trans rights.
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>>27183725
Is my question being ignored because it's not inflammatory enough? Is that how things work here?? Is this better???
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>>27184001
Who are you exactly or shut the fuck up lmao
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>>27184015
Meme edits are alright
As long as the joke is actually funny that is
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edits so far have only been from gay to straight which implies it will be used to jack off
that's pretty cringe
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>>27184048
I don't really agree but I also wouldn't be annoyed as I am at "Well, I don't like gay art so I hacked up this work so I can jerk off to it now!"
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>>27183749
>Imagine putting years of labor and hours of specific effort into any given piece of skilled work and finding out someone is tacking on edits to it because they didn't like what you made

I'm imagining my reaction ranging from slighly bemused to easily ignorable annoyance.
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>>27183749
>and only want to cannibalize and parasitize your work like you're a fucking performing monkey
Again, where are you pulling this line of reasoning from?
Is this really the only way you could possibly see why someone would want to edit something?

>changing it into something "bespoke" in the most chickenshit way possible
Every editfag I've come across has acknowledged the fact that what they are making are edits, and *not* original products.

>It would be like inserting your mixtape into a recording of a symphony orchestra and "giving it away for free" in front of where they're performing
Anon, uploading things to the internet doesn't require that level of commitment.
Data is far cheaper than music.
Stop making false equivalences.

>>27183761
Again, people have preferences.

>>27183771
Agreeing to what?
They've already entered a legally-binding contract when they upload their art that it's licensed for someone else to be able to modify, or repurpose for whatever they need to.
Nearly every site that allows image uploads has this in their TOS.
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>>27184035
Can't get who you are parodying now, but you gotta make it less obvious you're trying to start shit.
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>>27184112
>talking about TOS and shit
are you unable to understand that youre talking to actual people and not tools
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>>27184141
Pretty sure most people who enjoy and devote their life to a company IP could, in fact, be classified as tools.
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>>27184112
>It's legal so it's not disrespectful
defeats itself
>is this the only way
no but this is whats been done and what is being called out, next
>claim about ownership that doesnt dispute the basic insult
no need to rebuff, next
>its easier to do this insult online, so its not actually insulting to claim you know better how to perform the artists work than the artist themself
again, do i even need to do more than summarize to highlight the lack of argument made
>people have preferences
then buy a straight edit or wait for your request
or fuck son, go jerk it to the THOUSANDS OF IMAGES IN YOUR TASTE
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>>27184189
Oh, I thought you were actually serious about all this
Good troll I fell for it
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it also sucks because the edits are so bad they look like a shitty patchwork too, lemme tell ya, as an artist I would be less mad if it was a good edit at least lmao
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sometimes you just gotta draw your favorite character in your favorite fetish
this isnt about anything ITT im just saying
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>>27183457
Pretty much my approach.
This is an open forum, and most stuff posted here is fun throwaway stuff.
The primary artists are generally not making money from stuff posted here initially, and I'm not looking to make money by editing works.
I initially would ask (if possible) the artists of works I played with, Weaver knows and admits there's nothing he can do about (and never voiced a complaint to my knowledge), I've chatted with Rob about his work although; a, I've usually only been suggesting changes, using the threads as the transfer medium, and; b, his work is usually really good and not in need of changing, that sounds odd, but I can't think how to word it?
After a while it just seemed to be the way of the threads to play with each others works, we all just bounce off one another.

>>27183689
>someone to take what someone else did, and turn it into something they can enjoy even more
my point.

>>27183749
Ouch! OK, well I guess I've found a fragile nerve out there somewhere and I'm sorry if this affects you so.
If YOU are an artist not happy with editing, state yourself and your work may be avoided.

I like colouring, and don't get many complaints.
>image

OK, that all ran away before I could post...
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>>27184263
or fuck i dont know, if he asked in the first place
hes so much of a pussy he apologizes to itty for insulting his art
>in the filename
like fuck all the craven things you could do
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>>27183925
lol
>>27183950
I've colored lineart before. As advice on the matter, I would recommend any artist who does so to adjust the original in any way they want. Sometimes you have to close the line in some places or fix lineart. Add a background or a particular color scheme can change the entire context of a picture.
>>27183984
>destructive
Oh please
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>>27184310
why me anon, I didn't say anything to you ;_;
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>>27184305
you have a very warped sense of what is constructive labor and what is destructive
do you also equate restoration and vandalism
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>>27184361
>Sometimes you have to close the line in some places or fix lineart. Add a background or a particular color scheme can change the entire context of a picture.
you have the ability to describe constructive labor but not the ability to differentiate it from fundamentally changing the picture's content, or you are intentionally being disingenuous in this regard
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>>27184212
I'm not even in the discussion you flower, go have a hissy fit about people drawing animu childish Judy, Wolter doing gay shit, Charlie being a timid uguu pissslut and how all this give you the big upset because it offends the original creator.
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>>27184206
>defeats itself
Is that what you call an argument?

>no but this is whats been done and what is being called out
Only time this has ever happened is when editfags charge other people for the edits they make.
There's literally never been any other instance of "Hey, this artist fucking sucks, I'm gonna turn his things into something that everyone doesn't hate."

>>claim about ownership that doesnt dispute the basic insult
Again, you're not being clear about what the actual insult is.

>then buy a straight edit
See, *this* is the real scummy shit I'm talking about.
As soon as money enters the equation, then *and only then* can I understand this mindset of the art being tied to the artist.
I see no harm in anyone editing a pic *for free* that an artist elected to put out *for free* to begin with.
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>>27184418
I like seeing arguments that avoid all the substance of people's criticisms because it really reassures me that I'm not the asshole.
Bye snowflake.
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>snowflake
Welp, this is where the conversation stops being serious, I guess.
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>>27184301
by this I mean Im drawing a diaper pic and it feels good
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Anyone have that gif of the dog cock dildo being pushed into the bunny onahole?
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>>27184539
Hi Tangerine
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>>27184568
Nope!
Tangerine gave me this fetish though
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>>27184477
Bruh you don't even have the stamina to defend the fact that editing hackjob pussies onto gay art is saying that you know better than the artist what that art should have been in the first place
Or that doing so is intentionally and literally erasing an element of identity that the artist champions while making no attempt to obscure the fact that these edits are being done out of explicit disgust for content within that identity




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>>27184579
Wait, don't tell me...
Are you that anon that drew those couple of ageplay pics?
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>>27184477
this *isnt discord* :V
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>>27184614
Another anon told me to draw more provocative stuff so, hey, im doing it
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>>27184674
jump off a bridge
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>>27184700
That doesnt sound fun
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>>27184674
Well, it's good that you're enjoying what you do.
I say keep at it!
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>>27184674
as long as its adults... i cant say i support abdl but follow your dreams i guess
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>>27184596
>editing hackjob pussies onto gay art is saying that you know better than the artist what that art should have been in the first place
Except that's not even close to what that's implying.
Editing is just a way of repurposing things into something you can personally enjoy more, without having to force your ideals onto an artist to the point of having him cater an entire piece to you.

>literally erasing an element of identity that the artist champions
Mate, you're talking about art here, not a political movement.
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who draw dis
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wish i could draw provocative stuff, lads
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>>27184596
>that editing hackjob pussies onto gay art is saying that you know better than the artist what that art should have been in the first place
>Or that doing so is intentionally and literally erasing an element of identity that the artist champions while making no attempt to obscure the fact that these edits are being done out of explicit disgust for content within that identity
Sir this is a furry fetish porn thread
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>>27184568
No, I'm here. reCAPTCHA hasn't worked on my desktop for the better part of two days, and I would rather shoot myself than post on mobile (as I'm doing now) for more than half an hour tops.
>>27184674
Yeah, that was me, and I still stand by that. Looking forward to what else you've got
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>>27184837
every part of your argument is wrong because it fixates on the value of the content rather than the value of the labor.
repurposing an end product to explicitly remove the artist's work where you find it distasteful rather than solicit that artist for work in your taste is disrespectful as fuck dude.
if you think that doubly disrespecting that artist by being overt in the motivation to destroy their work and enforce your own vision onto it because the thing youre erasing is a part of their identity? bruh.
its literally based in homophobia. how is that not an insult to a queer creator to un-queer their content
some spaces are not for you anon
if you cant handle them, you dont have to be in them
you dont have to take a hammer to things that dont cater to you and force them into something you can tolerate
you can walk the fuck away and find content that fits
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>>27184943
Just draw Avo and people will lose their shit
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>>27159570
>>27159592
>>27159614
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>the value of the content rather than the value of the labor.
expounding on this
>the original work is still out there anon why are you upset
It's blatantly disdainful for the artist's intentions and craftsmanship
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>>27185032
Missed quote
>>27184976
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>>27184976
>because it fixates on the value of the content rather than the value of the labor
Nobody's downplaying the value of labor here, my guy
>explicitly remove the artist's work where you find it distasteful
You mean repurposing it, right?
>being overt in the motivation to destroy their work and enforce your own vision onto it
If I wanted to be overt in enforcing my own vision onto their work, I'd yell at them to make it the way I wanted it.
>because the youre erasing is a part of their identity?
Again, we're talking about art, not activism.
>its literally based in homophobia
No, anon, people liking straight stuff is not homophobia.
>some spaces are not for you anon
>if you cant handle them, you dont have to be in them
Perhaps I should be telling *you* this.
>you dont have to take a hammer to things that dont cater to you and force them into something you can tolerate
>you can walk the fuck away and find content that fits
And you don't have to be so pissy about someone that makes a simple edit.
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>>27184837
i wish liking dudes wasn't considered political when doing so is convenient as a way to excuse minimizing people out of the sight of >homophobes in 2019 going on 2020
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>>27185205
>Invade queer space
>Kick the queers out
>Hide the queer work
>Tell queers that they need to be more tolerant and find spaces just for them
This has reached peak gaslighting
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>>27185241
>>Invade queer space
Anon, this is the Zootopia thread.
Nobody here has to cater to your tastes.
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>>27185205
erasing a queer artists queer work because you openly admit that you're a homophobe while insulting artists for not "drawing enough canon" (read: straight, and palatable to him)
You're either bad as shit at arguing and lack context permanence or you're actively running defense for homophobia, it's kind of astonishing.
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>>27185277
It's gay art my dude
It's gay art being made not gay because the editor is openly homophobic.
Are you a doublespeak consultant by trade, by any chance?
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People pretending this halfassed edit is "destroying" or "erasing" the original work are so melodramatic. Rude? Yes. Destructive? No.
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>>27185298
>erasing a queer artists queer work because you openly admit that you're a homophobe
You're joking, right?
Are you seriously trying to politicize editfagging just because it involves two characters being gay with each other?

>"drawing enough canon"
read: "drawing enough WildeHopps"
Again, it's not unreasonable to want this in a thread about Zootopia, where they strongly suggest them as a legitimate pairing.

>>27185348
>because the editor is openly homophobic
I'll repeat myself ad nauseum if I must:
He's repurposing the artwork to fit his preferences.
That's it.
How many times do I have to take down the same strawman?
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canon is boring because canon hasn't evoloved for the past 3 years since the movie was released
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>>27185419
epic defense brother, heterosexuality is saved
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>>27179330
>Judy finds this picture in Nick's phone while not being an invasive and insecure girlfriend.
>She doesn't copy it over to her phone, and search the EXIF data to find out where this mangey, tod-stealing, bitch lives.
>And she doesn't eventually get tackled by the vixen while not prowling around her home, tied to a chair, and slapped around until she spills the beans.
>No.
>This would all be too hard to explain, and potentially cost her her job, boyfriend, and her new girlfriend..
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>>27182436
that's a good idea
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I wish the diaper freaks would stick to their own general.
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>>27185553
same but with incest
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>>27185486
Again, this was never about homosexuality, heterosexuality, or anything of the like as a whole.

The original complaint was that Nick was with Jack, and not Judy.
This whole situation would be no different if Judy were male, and Jack female.
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>>27185553
I, for one, welcome our pampered overlords.
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>>27185419
i don't have time to waste on point by point takedowns of non-defenses I've already humored this long, to zero retention
you're either stubborn to the point of useful stupidity or a lineman for genuine homophobia by choice

i owe further time to neither possibility
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>>27185610
The last 20 years of "don't shove it down my throat" rhetoric d e s u
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>>27185610
For fuck's sake, man.
This isn't about homophobia.
This was never about homophobia.
Stop trying to bring it into this discussion.

Like I said here >>27185572, it wouldn't be any different if Judy and Jack were different genders.
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>>27185677
how about you btfo and stop helping this guy stirr shit :v
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>>27185419
You said >>27182379
>I think it would be nice if good artists could do canon versions of their works before going on to their fettish, persuasion or whatever.
>not screaming flag waving.

You brought your homophobia to the front and center of this shit, don't try and back out of it now.
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>>27185677
oh honey its never about homophobia is it
keep looking for DEBATES with LOGIC and REASON people like you have been at this same smoke and mirrors as long as i've been alive
your defense, into the trash.
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>>27185722
It's a different element of the homophobic ecosystem, the "not personally homophobic" noisemaker that runs interference while blaming the weather, the tone, consulting the oracles and finding every possible reason something homophobic could not be homophobic.
It's a useful defense mechanism constituted of people too ignorant to realize they operate it.
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You guys fall for the dumbest shit the shitstirrer brews up. If you don't want to talk about zoot and is bored you can always play some gacha game.
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I wish Sasha would stop replying to bait
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>>27185794
this second line is the best description of "institutional" systems i've read ngl
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>>27185601
Oh shit a comission from PointedFox?
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>>27185974
this is dacads fault isnt it
pretty hot
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>>27185974
Ohh, this is pretty. Nice stuff Ittles. I hope you were able to beat Otterly enough into continuing the comic, it's looked completely rad.
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>>27185722
First of all, no I didn't.
Secondly, the man's complaint was about the specific pairing of characters not pertaining to either character's gender.
Again, I will repeat myself ad nauseum if I must:
Nothing would be different about the situation if Judy were male, and Jack female.

>>27185760
What defense?
Nobody's attacking anything except you.
Are you really this apt to deliberately find things to get mad at when there are none?

>>27185794
>the "not personally homophobic" noisemaker
You're not seriously trying to pull a "no u" on me, are you?
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>>27185974
HOH FUK
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>>27185974
wait im confused
what fetish is this
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>>27186039
gay
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>>27186039
docking
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>>27186039
you stick your dick in their sheath and they stick their dick in your sheath
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>>27186025
Anon do you really need the concept of dog whistles explained to you as part of your charade in pretending that they couldn't be blown, nobody can hear them, and they don't exist?
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>>27186039
docking :v
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>>27186102
>dog whistles
Maybe I should explain to you what a strawman is first.
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>>27186136
1. That's not how you use "your argument is a strawman"
2. Yes, it seems like you do need dog whistles explained to you
>performative ignorance
It really says something about society
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>>27185956
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH ITTTTTTT
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happy puppy
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>>27186166
>That's not how you use "your argument is a strawman"
Except that's exactly what you're using as your argument.
You're saying that the act of openly expressing their preference for straight content somehow makes someone homophobic, when in reality, all they're doing is expressing their preference for straight content.
There's no hidden messages, anon, stop being so paranoid.
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>>27186216
how gay is it
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>>27186249
Look closely, its staring at a dick right now
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>>27186265
a hearty chuckle, well played
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>>27186265
That's rude to talk about Marty like that!
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>>27186243
>There's no hidden messages, anon, stop being so paranoid.
Yes that's what the dog whistle permits you to say. But you did hear it, and you did come running, and now you're playing defense like a good boy.
You're either well trained or so desperate not to back out of the argument you now have to erase the insult from the insult that started it.
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i like zootopia
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>>27186346
>Yes that's what the dog whistle permits you to say. But you did hear it, and you did come running, and now you're playing defense like a good boy.
Ironic that you use actual propaganda with real hidden messages just to try and tell me that stating preferences for things somehow has hidden messages.
You're literally just pulling a "no u" right now.

>you now have to erase the insult from the insult that started it
Again, you're the only one throwing insults in the first place.
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>>27186530
i like pack street
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>>27186537
>you're pulling a no u
>your entire post is a verbose no u
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>>27186541
i like both
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>>27186560
You're free to make a real argument any time you like, anon.
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>>27186607
A homophobe, citing their homophobia as motive, un-queered queer art.
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>>27186652
>A homophobe
Unfounded accusation
>citing their homophobia as motive
Having a distaste for certain pairings is not homophobia
>un-queered queer art
read: repurposing art to fit their tastes.

How many times do I have to repeat that a drawing of two men cuddling is *not* a political statement?
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Just shut up and make out already
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>>27186753
OK homophobe
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>>27184485
>pls no maek thing i like not pls pls 4chan meanies
Die mad about it
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>>27186802
Quick to keep rebuilding that same strawman, aren't you?
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>>27186791
Its a spagetti strand
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>>27186829
>Jumping at everyone who ridicules you as being the same person, at the same level of sincerity
Very cool and stable of you by the way
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>>27186777
Let it go chomper
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>>27186882
hoofer let it go
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>>27186877
You sure deflect like the same guy.
Are you sure you're not actually the same guy?
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>>27185246
>>27185423
>>27185601
source?
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>>27186861
Charlie hates italian "cuisine"
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>>27186899
Anon we're all the same guy in here
You aren't looking too good Anon
Why don't you go get some sun
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>>27185974
Is that Jack fucking Nick's sheath?
That's interesting.
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>>27186948
If we were all the same guy, then you'd know it's already night by now.
Maybe you should go get some rest, anon.
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>>27186346
Wait, do I hear 2 tones here?
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>>27187008
>americans
explains the level of stupidity on the homophobe hemisphere of this argument
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>>27187093
Yo Mint
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>>27187054
wow ok racist
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>>27187093
Pastebun didn't transition, did he?
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Well, this has been the most entertaining thread I've followed for a while.
G'night folks.
>some assorted sleepy image
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>>27187105
remind me who's elected to run your country right now anon
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>>27187142
not merkel
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>>27187138
When in doubt just "they" people until you know what the answer is as a tip
It's like, impossible to step on anyone's toes with "they"
There's always going to be people that don't just want to step on the toes but stomp them into a bony pudding, but I'm assuming you are asking sincerely
Answer: dunno them personally, I'm neither paste nor mint
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>>27187214
I call everyone here "she"
because I think you're all boats irl
Fuckin boats using 4chan
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>>27187234
Motherfucker I'm a _ship_
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>>27187138
Mint made the pic for me as a gift and told me to post it, but yeah, I am transitioning
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>>27187234
Ah, a fellow /g/aymer, I see.
How's your collection of programming socks coming along?
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>>27187262
Oh.
I honestly wasn't prepared to hear that.
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>>27187262
Congrats
Hope it makes you happy
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>>27187283
Its alright Anon! It's been like 8 months since my decision, it was a feeling for a long time

>>27187285
Thanks!
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>>27187139
I love when shitposters reveal their true colors.
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>>27187262
Huh, well congrats as uncommon
Your rabbit is cute and I wish you luck and happiness
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>>27187330
My colors are black and yellow, and you will remember them well.
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>>27187349
*as uncommon as that might be on 4chan
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>>27187265
Well shit, I didn't realize that was already an established meme. For a moment I thought I was clever...
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>>27187262
good on ya for doin what makes you happy
hope your writing goes well
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>>27187465
>>27187349
Thanks you both!
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I know I'm going to get a lot of shit for this, but I for one am very concerned for Paste.
Even still though, I wish only the best for him/her.
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>>27187645
there is a word for this anon
I know you can remember what it is
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>>27187349
Also since you like my bun, here's another zooty pic of her from a while back. Thank you for the positive feelings, I really appreciate it
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>>27187649
Sleep tight, bunner.
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>>27187649
Have a good snooze Anon
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>>27187664
I'm assuming it's MtF, right?
I feel it's fair to use both pronouns during this sort of interrim stage, isn't it?
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>>27187093
10/10 expression, good work mint
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>>27187736
Nah, either they or she
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>>27187736
"they" is a long recognized neutral singular pronoun
it's not that hard
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>>27187665
>zooty
>pink fur
I mean aight
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>>27187774
>>27187786
Well, if you say so, I guess.
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>>27187824
Fur dye is a thing I'd assume
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>>27187398
You gotta bee kidding me
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>>27187665
your bun is cute Paste
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>>27181084
Violet thought she wouldn’t have to worry as much about Judy with Nick as her partner. He seemed like a level-headed fox, perfect for watching her sister’s back.

Then she saw the video online of Nick jumping onto a runaway float with a giant pair of scissors and realized she had to worry twice as much.
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You're a slut
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>>27188955
Does vore count as a sexual act?
Because if so, I'll gladly accept being a "slut."
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Good night, all.
I hope I can still muster the energy to someday make the things I said I'd make.
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>>27188987
You're a vore slut
>>27189045
Follow your dreams anon, especially your wet dreams
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>>27189200
They look like they wanna play~
But I don't own Halo Reach...
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>>27189200
Hey Mint, do you have a site you would like me to use as your source on the booru? A twitter, FA, something like that?
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>>27189298
Nah. Only site I have has nothing to do with zoot.
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I wish I knew more about you, anon
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>>27177026
I bet she's got the warmest hugs.
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An Alpha must be very close with her Pack
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>>27189718
Damn, Velvet is crazy kinky... which I always suspected but DAMN!
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>>27189718
Oh I forgot
it's based on this fic
https://pastebin.com/310T3GKs
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>>27189718
Nice
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>>27189718
Go for it, Wolt. Just reach out and go for it. She can only kill you once, but your legend will live on forever.
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>>27189833
>wolt
Anon........
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>>27189794
>Wolf Clan
>River
I'm smelling an Armello reference.
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>>27189586
Ask
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>>27190462
What ztg thing makes you happy?
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We need more tennis!
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>>27190473
Cute things, doesnt really have to be of something in particular or a specific medium.
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>>27190532
I prefer badminton desu senpai
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I guess we really were a Zootopia General
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>>27190817
*dramatic music plays*
*close up camera pan that was in the trailer*
*title*
*end credits start*
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>>27190643
Bad tastes
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