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/ZTG/ - Zootopia General: Predator/Prey Relations Edition

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Thematic Thursdays: The 90's! (Entires due on the 19th)
Previous Theme: Technology
TT Archive: t3event.tumblr.com
TT Pastebin: pastebin.com/gudYsYHL
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>>25464801
>Predator/Prey Relations
My favorite edition
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>>25464801
>Judy's mom silently watching her daughter get taken by a stronger, bigger predator
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No Judy you are the predators
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Oh look, just in time for the new thread, page 20. Saliva String™ included by RVP's request.

FINALLY, we get a good look at Nick's scruffy scrotum.

https://imgur.com/a/siPIbbO
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Be more wholesome with that topic, OP
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>>25464834
>>25464847
>>25464855
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>>25464873
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>>25464902
YES. This is so fucking good.
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>>25464926
voreyvoo
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>>25464867
is it that green where judy breaks down when nick finds the rape dungeon
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Download Drawpile, join this room, make a layer, create the art
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Superior predator/predator relationship is bored by this topic.
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>>25464926
oh my
this is the lewdest post in the thread
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>>25465010
You wish, pervert.
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>>25465055
Damn wish I could jump in to draw something, but I'm behind so many deadlines, I have to deal with first. Hope you get some good art in tho!
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to the anons thinking I was gay for wanting Nick's dik. I'll rephrase myself. I want to fuck Nick's ass while blindfold. If I don't know who I'm fucking, then it's not gay.
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>>25464902
>saliva strings
VERY good taste rvp
love all judy expressions
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>>25464902
YES
E
S
>>25465218
Only if balls are not touching
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>>25464936
Before Tiger Oil comic, I assumed Tiger Oil was Weaver's version of Non-descript-savage-sex-totally-not-nighthowler-drug™ that a lot of fancontent use, but after it, it's more like just an aphrodisiac of sorts. I was honestly expecting Pastor2.0
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Remember that in Zootopia females not wearing tops are signaling they're up for some fun.
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>>25465390
And it doesn't count as public indecency. This is my fetish.
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>>25465424
A tube with clothes is public indecency or not? And without?
Asking for a friend.
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>>25465448
Your tube must be inside his container at all times.
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>>25464902
Very nice
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>>25465390
I think it means the same thing in this world
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>>25465218
What is Nick trying to tell us?
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>>25465390
>>25465539
Yea, I was about to say, if going topless is inherently sexual, you run into the same reasons why people don't do it in our own society.
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>>25464902
Aww Yiss!
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Upside down proctologist.
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>>25465568
I'd like to think that it's not a sexual thing. For humans, boobs are very sexual. Most mammals don't have external mammary glands. They're mostly visible during lactation.
Them not being visible isn't important in the reproduction strategy, unlike humans where they signal that the female is fertile, same thing goes with wide hips.
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>>25464902
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>>25464902
>we get a good look at Nick's scruffy scrotum
A boy owned a dog that was uncommonly shaggy. Many people remarked upon its considerable shagginess. When the boy learned that there are contests for shaggy dogs, he entered his dog. The dog won first prize for shagginess in both the local and the regional competitions. The boy entered the dog in ever-larger contests, until finally he entered it in the world championship for shaggy dogs. When the judges had inspected all of the competing dogs, they remarked about the boy's dog: "He's not that shaggy."
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I'm going to put my cock...
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>>25465783
Wish I was this happy with my life
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>>25465850
...in this bunny booty.
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>>25465850
And I'm gonna put my cock in this fox booty
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>>25461852
>can we talk about how run down the Hopps family truck is? I mean, Based on the interior of their home and their clothes they don't seem to be doing badly. Then there is this car that looks like it belongs to some meth dealer that lives out in the desert.
>meth dealer
The carrot farming is just a front for the Hoppses' real business.
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>>25465987
Judy wanting to become a police officer is just a long term plan to help them set up shop in the city with an inside guy at the zpd at the ready to help them avoid getting caught
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Only women have vaginas, but they also have mouths and anuses. A gay guy can have just as much fun in a woman's mouth or anus as a man's mouth or anus.
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>>25466095
Why do straight men only see women as holes and not friends
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>>25465130
I remember requesting this pic.

Still one of the best pairs in this fandom.
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>>25465846
So skinny when naked. Needs to eat more blueberries.
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>>25465390
My load is ready to explode.
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>>25465386
>Pastor
???
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>>25464902
this is hot stuff, but why are there so many duplicates?
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>>25466403
dupliactes?
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>>25466403
>>25466419
I think he's talking about the nipple vs. no nipple alts
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>>25466382
>???
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>>25466419
>>25466451
so it was the nipples. I did not notice that
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>>25466451
>>25466476
Ah, okay, I prefer the no nips actually
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Vanilla sex in the anus for the purpose of procreation.
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>>25466555
>in the anus
It's actually called "chocolate sex."
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>>25466555
mpreg?
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>>25466587
It's called that because straight dudes dont clean themselves and assume everyone else doesnt either
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>>25464902
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>>25466582
>>25466613
>>25466636
Why dafuq are we memin Rene Descartes now?
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>>25466582
>>25466613
>>25466636

To gay or not to gay, that is the question.
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Ever been on public transportation and get the urge to stand up suddenly and shout, "SEX IN THE ANUS!"
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>>25466674
I take it you're not familiar with the "give her the dick" meme.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/give-her-the-dick
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>>25466708
Did you confuse this guy for Shakespear or?
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>>25466747
Would be more clever if it incorporated some of his quotes.
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>>25466750
yea, my bad I think it was, "I think, therefore I am"

or, "I dick, therefore I gay"
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She be nekked.
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>>25464926
I love how embarrassed they are by each other
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I want these two to have a loving forbidden relationship. They look so cute together.
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>>25466674
>now
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>>25467013
Is it possible or is Percy too gay?
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>>25466382
2016 (2017?) /ztg/ stuff, it is a drug in a vein similar to Nighthowlers or other psychotropic drugs people made for the fandom. Memory is hazy, but if it serves me right, it was to domestication passiveness what Nighthowlers was to savage rampage. I don't remember many works who used it, but it was mostly used in lewd works and greens.
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>>25467103
No, Caitlin is for not blood related tubedudes.
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>>25464902
Neat
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>>25464801
The best kind
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>>25469311
best ship
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>>25469342
how can a Judy not respond after a blep?
Is she made of ice and stone?
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>>25469311
Every sheep needs their own sheepdog
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>>25469532
Just as nature intended anon
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>>25469454
She wants her response to be perfect so she's getting Violet to help her grill a cheese.
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>>25469342
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judy is catholic so you must climax inside
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>>25469532
It's a sheep's job to make sure their sheepdog has all their comfy and lewd needs met
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>>25469599
Tis the truest relationship that not even the courts could challenge desu
>>25470046
Brushing, Jogs, snacks & bellyrub massages. The most wholesome form of relations
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guys :v what if charlie dresses up as renamon and goes to comicon
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Remilton Cormo from the hit fanfic Pack Street
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>>25471469
How does a bastard, orphan, son of a whore and a
Scotsman, dropped in the middle of a forgotten
Spot in Zootopia by providence, impoverished, in squalor
Grow up to be a hero and a scholar?
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>OP

Now that's a kind of mauling and ravaging and devouring I can get behind.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKfWeGKmflw
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>>25470046
>>25470404
>>25469311
>>25469532
FUUUUUUCK
IT HURTS

sheepdog is so good that it hurts
...i think i might be a masochist
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Good news: I've found a sketchbook
Bad news: I'm rusty as hell, I have only a pen and I really draw terribly on paper
I will try and draw some more to see if I can take requests on the near future
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>>25472005
>I will try and draw some more to see if I can take requests on the near future
If you do, draw Silver being non-lewdly petted.
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You could not live without gay wolter
And where that took you?
Back to me
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Susie
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@cakes_moist
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>>25472697
>judy with small breasts
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>>25472005
Cute terry you got there! Pretty good for being rusty. Always love seeing traditional work from mainly digital artists
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>>25472970
Only time will tell
For now may you have a good night /ztg/
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>>25473526
sleep tite tuber
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>>25472884
>Nick's porn-star cousin tries to seduce Judy
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>>25470046
>"Just sit down, I'll take care of--" The moment she puts weight on her feet, Betty's face contorts from a look of impatience to one of sharp agony. She falls back onto her couch with a dull thud.
>I gasp. "Betty!? Are you okay?"
>Winging my hooves, I stare at her as she lifts up a foot to massage it.
>"Yeah yeah, I'm fine. Cripes Cormo. You're more of a worry-wart than Velvet." She brushes me off while focusing both her paws and eyes on her feet, acting like she didn't just let out a high-pitched, dog-like yelp the moment she tried to stand.
>"Alright, that's it. Betty? You are in no condition to be doing anything right now." I say firmly, folding my arms over my fluffy midsection.
>She flicks her head to look up at me and stares like I just said something extremely outlandish. She starts wheezing before breaking out into full-blown laughter.
>"Oh, give me a break!" She says in between gasps for air. "My fucking GOD!"
>She lays a hand on her face and scoffs, shaking her head.
>"Betty, I'm serious." I say, less severely. That just gets her to laugh even harder.
>"The concerned, fatherly act is too goddamn funny on you, yarnball." She says, after calming down. Somewhat.
>"I-I'm not. Look, I just think that you should take a break, at least for a little while."
>Her joyful expression falls into a more serious one.
>"Yeah, for once you have a point. Y'know, you're lucky I can't get up and clobber you for telling me what to do."
>I cough nervously.
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>>25473526
sleep good
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>>25474840
p-please tell me you're writing more sir?
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Not enough pics of the twins actually taking part in their favorite activity, imo
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>>25464801

Once a prey experiences the biting and clawing and vicious sounds, they could never go back to their own.
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>>25475432
It's stuff like this that leads to prey being slut shamed for dating preds and preds getting beaten.
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>>25474840
Sir I'm afraid this is too wholesome and too comfy for this thread. I'm reporting you to the authorities
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Hey y'all, ZTArchiveAnon here.
Long time no talk, wish I had better news.
Site is borked due to unforeseen server issues.
Hope to be back up within less than 24 hours.
Apologies.
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>>25467876
rude, Tubes needs to breed somehow. And as all the other male tubes are gay too, its up to the females to get their seed no matter what. And Caitlin finds her brother extremely cute that she wants his babies.
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>>25476206
Oh shite! That is pretty bad news. Still, it's good to hear from you again. Been a while.
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>>25476206
We appreciate what you do man, thank you so much
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>>25476206
I feel like those who manage archives are kind of taken for granted, and a lot of people don't know what they've got until they're gone. That being said, I'm really glad that you're doing what you're doing. You deserve more credit for it.
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why
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>>25476231
It's weird, despite my lack of interaction I see you guys pretty much every day, since starting the archiving is still a manual process. *cough*except when I forget and miss threads*cough* While I can't keep up with the latest meta if you will, it still feels like coming home every time I log in to the server and see the OP of each thread if nothing else.

On the topic of missed threads, if anyone ever happens to notice that a current active thread is not on ZTArchive and it's been more than an hour or so since the previous thread was pruned, please feel free to yell at me at ztarchiveanon@gmail.com. Sometimes my notification text to myself doesn't come through or more often I see it and forget until like the next day.

>>25476241
>>25476292
Your appreciation is all I could ask for.
You guys keep the lights on here 'till ZooTwopia when I'll be forced to put real life on hold and join back in the fun here.
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>>25476403
because vore!
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>>25476206
Thank you for ensuring that my shitposts will live on forever.
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Rude
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>>25477630
No, send your nudes Nick.
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>>25475144
where's the benis?
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The Japanese artist Sarita just put one of their WildeHopps sketch books up for free on their pixiv (it's 29 pages and I don't feel like dumping):

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=76830195
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Quick question for the threads: What are all of the abbreviations for popular ships involving canon characters (plus Jack and Skye)?

>Nick and Judy = WildeHopps
>Judy and Gideon = Judeon
>Nick and Gideon = Nickeon
>Jack and Skye = SavageSkye
>Jack and Judy = SavageHopps
>Jack and Nick = WildeSavage
>Skye and Judy = SkyeHopps
>Skye and Nick = WildeSkye
>Finnick and Gazelle = Finzelle
>Finnick and Nick = FinNick
>Bogo and Clawhauser = Clawbogo

Any others I'm missing/messed up?
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>>25477852
I call Bogo x Clawhauser = Bogohauser, tho I might be wrong

>Fangmeyer x Wolford = Wolfmeyer
>Leodore (Lionheart) x Dawn (Bellwether) = Leodawn
>Gideon x Travis = Traveon
>Gideon x Sharla = Sharleon
>Nick x Gazelle = Wildezelle? (I know it's popular here, but don't think it has a ship name)

I would really like to include Honey if Jack and Skye get to be in, but I have to accept that the final version of Honey is the doctor that worked for Lionheart.
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>>25477852
Garry and Larry = ...the gay wolf guards, don't think there is a ship name
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>>25476222
Double rude, she can have an artificial insemination from some not blood related donor if she wants kits, I'm sure we can find someone between all polecats of Zootopia.
>And as all the other male tubes are gay too
That it just a stereotype and we need more tubedude x tubegirl lewds that are not incest.
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Why is Jack like this?
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Skye is a cute doggo
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>>25478341
>That it just a stereotype and we need more tubedude x tubegirl lewds that are not incest.
Do we have straight tubes in the thread? I thought so.
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>Terry only tubedude that rolled trips
>Oliver only tubedude that rolled dubs
>Still no lewd of them together, especially no frotting
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>>25478442
>>25478434

See? More gay tube dudes. Not a single straight one.
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>It is a well-understood fact in Zootopia, and beyond, that watchmaking played a significant part in what established Little Rodentia as a full-fledged neighborhood in the city.
>While it may seem hard to believe now, the rodent population in Zootopia was not significant throughout most of its history: the 1861 census reported only 14,431 of the 'very-small-scale' mammals, and there was no centralized district designated for them. The few rodents living in the city up to that point were thinly spread apart, with the occasional 'neighborhood' of several units built together -- one such example, on Prairie Road, is still mostly intact, and is now a museum and in the Z.T. Register of Historic Places.
>In 1868, Edward Meadows and Thaddeus Fielder, two voles who had found moderate success up to that point producing prayer nuts, devised the idea of producing mechanical watches to break into the then-burgeoning industry. The two believed that the small and intricate parts that went into assembling a mechanical watch would be a job best suited for the smallest of mammals. Volex was founded the following year, and the two voles began manufacturing and selling pocket watches aimed at size A5 mammals in their Savanna Central warehouse.
>While mechanics were seen as more suited for larger mammals up to that point, public opinion soon perceiving Volex watches as more precise than any other, and Volex marketing campaigns have taken significant advantage of this since. Demand for the watches skyrocketed, and by 1900, the company was producing as many as 200 watches per day from their factory in Zootopia.
>The sudden growth of Volex not only began to centralize the city's rodent population, but also brought in significant numbers from outlying regions. The growth called for a designated rodent community, and in 1897, the district of Little Rodentia was officially incorporated.
>Pictured: an overhead view of the Volex factory in 1973, with a curious tiger peering over the gate.
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>>25478468
>Implying they can't frot while double penetrating a girl
You need to learn multitasking.
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>With a larger, more centralized rodent population in Zootopia developing, opportunities beyond just watchmaking began to develop. Other items with intricate parts, such as musical boxes, mechanical pencils, mechanical calculators, and even typewriters, saw manufacure in significant numbers by rodents and rodent-founded companies.
>[...]
>However, despite Volex's legacy, the days for the company's factory in Little Rodentia would eventually prove to be numbered. While the new factory that began construction in Ratowice in 1974 was intended to be supplemental to the factory in Zootopia, the company reported significant financial issues the following year and announced it would undergo restructuring. That December, the company subsequently announced that their factory in Zootopia would cease operation, speculated as being largely from Zootopia's steep tax for smaller mammals. This decision was met with significant backlash from the community of Little Rodentia, and continues to be the source of controversy. While there were numerous attempts to preserve the entire complex after its closing, it eventually fell into disrepair. In 1994, all but the oldest factory building were demolished.
>Despite the fate of the Little Rodentia factory, Volex is still remembered largely for being the catalyst that created the district of Little Rodentia, and for ushering in an age where rodents would be renowned for intricate, precise machinery.
>Pictured: Two Volex executives announce the Sorella at an expo in Little Rodentia. Dated April 8, 1972.
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>>25478589
These two pictures are my submissions for TGG's district project. I had a real good time drawing these! I'm really excited to see the submissions from the rest of the CCs who signed up.
Now, it's way too late (early?) for me in the time zone I'm in, so I'm going to try to go to sleep, now.
t. tangerine
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>>25465557
to aim for the wet hole
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>>25478577
>>25478589
Very nice, Tangerine!
I love all the thought you put into this
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Anybody have the "Zoosona roll chart"? I forgot to save it
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>>25479204
Aight, just put it up on Twitter with Japanese instructions; let's see if any of the Japanese CCs bite
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>>25479407
One of these days TB's gonna get Rikuo or someone into Pack Street and then all of Nippon will know the pain of no Sheepdog.
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>>25479431
Not gonna lie, I've been considering translating some of the smaller comics into Japanese to see if I can gauge interest from them, but the big issue is that I'm far more confident in my ability to translate from Japanese to English; less so the other way around.

Like, I'm confident I could get it to a level where it'd be *readable* but I definitely lack the ability to make it sound natural.
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>>25479431
I hope not, because sheepdog is the worst of the possible ships.
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>>25478379
He just really likes grapes
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>>25479431
Japs will totally jump on Annemmy
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>>25464847
Nick, you stupid fuck, that isn't where you bite your bunnies.
Do it right or you're fired.




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>>25477852
Nick and Violet = Vick? Niolet?
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>>25479768
Anneke is a stalker now? Why though?
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>>25466494
>no nips
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>>25466597
>mpreg
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>>25467013
>>25467103
Best sister ever.
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>>25480095
I go with WildeViolet myself.
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>>25476222
>Caitlin finds her brother extremely cute that she wants his babies
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>>25480186
We are the intellectual minority.
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>>25469888
lel, kids op
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>Any others I'm missing/messed up?
Violet + Judy = Violetcest
Yeah, it's a thing.
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>>25480240
She wants Hugh's African Striped Polecat hybrids
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>>25480306
Violet isn't a canon character tho, only semi-canon
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>>25480397
Neither are Jack or Skye, and we ship them all the time. Doesn't matter if the characters are canon or not, it's the name of the ship.
None of the Pack Street characters are canon to the Zootopia universe either, and that hasn't stopped anyone.
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>>25480522
I think he means in a the anon specified the graph of ships of the subset of canon character joined with Jack and Skye.
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>>25480522
Hold up, isn't Violet canon from one of the official storybooks?
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>>25480540
I go with:
>Hard canon = Movie
>Soft canon = Everything else that is associated with Zootopia. Some (Word of God) are harder than other (Mobile game from a third party, comics).
>Not canon = Everything that has no official tie to Zootopia universe, including things like concept art of canned content.
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>>25480540
Sandly, 'official' and 'canon' are not synonym. Anything from comics, guidebooks and games is only semi-canon. It's only canon if it's in the movie.

One of the official Zootopia guidebooks says that Nick stripped naked infront of Judy in the Mystic Spring Oasis.
Crime files is also an official game, and the Chinise game that teases Nick proposing Judy with a ring is also an official game.
But none of these are canon.
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>>25480605
Usually I treat soft canon the same as hard unless the movie contradicts it or obviously it isn’t plausible. Examples would be Judy’s paw pads in Crime Files when she doesn’t have them in the movie, or any conversation between Zootopia characters and other Disney characters in Disney Heroes (though I do like some of the random trivia, like Nick being able to eat chocolate).
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>>25464801
I imagine a situation where predator/prey play is a fetish that injected a lot into otherwise vanilla porn. A certain percentage of viewers are really into it but most aren't (even those that are in predator/prey relationship similarly to how Black men having sex with White women is popular with cuckoldry fetish).
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>>25480621
Okay, most of these I agree with, and thanks for clarifying, Anons.
Just one thing I'm gonna disagree on - Word of God is NOT Soft Canon.
It's Word of God, from the Creator themselves. It's literally the most canon there is.
Carry on!
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>>25480783
Pred/prey play probably goes hand in hand with cuckoldry in Zootopia universe porn. Predators “hunting” and stealing prey from their mates.
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>>25480916
>Catch 22
https://twitter.com/byronphoward/status/794953718256967680
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>>25480966
>Pred/prey play probably goes hand in hand with cuckoldry
Yeaaahhhhh... no.
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>>25480973
>Catch 22
Word of God is that Word of God is 'maybe'.
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>>25480999
So do we take his word on it, or not?
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>>25480966
I mean... WildeHopps doesn't have a hint of that going on, as long as you don't write Jack into the picture. Plus, it's just a relationship with some powerplay dynamics, so it doesn't HAVE to possess any cuckold tones to it.
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>>25481016
My HeadCanon is that since Judy is so driven and determined in her public life, she is a total submissive behind closed doors. She privately loves to just let go, surrender control and let Nick take over for a while, finding it to be an incredible stress relief from her regular job and public role.
You will never change my mind on this.
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Skyler > Nick
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>>25481066
Objectively false, dubs or no.
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>>25481016
I meant specifically in porn in-universe wise; like >>25480783 said, there would be a certain percentage into it, but most probably wouldn’t be (including those in pred/prey relationships).
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>>25478589
damn that's some fine worldbuilding
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>>25481096
You _REALLY_ don't need to keep trying to entangle cucking/infidelity with pred/prey, Anon.
You're a cuck and you're into it, fine. To each their own. But stop trying to drag one into the other. You're straying into Magical Realm territory.
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>>25481054
>My HeadCanon is that since Judy is so driven and determined in her public life, she is a total submissive behind closed doors. She privately loves to just let go, surrender control and let Nick take over for a while, finding it to be an incredible stress relief from her regular job and public role.
Same but for Pandora
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>>25481075
rude. They should be in a contest. But a contest about what? And their respective ladies get to judge the other.
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>>25480916
It is soft canon for me because they can say that Judy and Nick do the drugas but in the next movie Judy and Nick claim to never had used drugs, the movie would take precedence.
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>>25481171
>Judy and Nick do the drugas
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>>25481171
Yeah, Anon got me with the tweet from Lord Byron, above. I follow.
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>>25481259
Sorry, that statement was ambiguous considering we're talking about Twitter. I mean I've come around and agree. Word of God is that only stuff in the movie is hard canon.
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>Judy and Nick do the drugas
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>>25481016
Same, though a lot of people here keep posting word for word raceplay, cuckoldry and cheating level dialog just replacing nouns. Then again a lot of generals on trash with interracial and anthro on human content in this board has that, so I guess it's kind of pointless to complain about it.
It is somewhat captivating to have this pretend outrage about it though, like these threads never had people posting oh nick your fox cock is so big i dont think a rabbit will satisfy anymore and equivalents even with sheepdog. We have people here with choking, vore, pregnancy and inflation fetish but people are really defensive about cuckolding in particular.
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>>25481340
>people are really defensive about cuckolding in particular
Because it flies in the face of the One True Ship
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>>25481382
Plus, for a while, there was this trend in fanfiction where Jack was really popular and thus every few stories would be “Jack shows up, Judy turns into a fangirl, and Nick gets jealous”, which got old really quickly. Didn’t help that this trope was sometimes paired with “Judy treats Nick like shit”.
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>>25481420

>which got old really quickly

Fuck yes it did.

"Hello it is I, Jack Savage, here to take the investigation from you as this is now in the hands of FBICIAAGENCYMI5. Judy Hopps, do you want to bang me?"

"No."

"You sure?"

"Yes."

"Absolutely positive?"

"I want you to fuck off and leave me alone."

"And now I shall only hear the 'I want you' part of the conversation and instantly assume I have no chance against this rabbit from FBICIAAGENCYMI5 even though it is blatantly obvious that Judy likes me."
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>>25481367
Heroine is bad, m'kay?
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>>25481340
Because in every cuckolding setting, the guy getting cucked is usally depicted as a completely useless spineless doormat. If that turns you on, that's fine.
However, applying this to WildeHopps would mean that you're turning Nick in this useless idiot, which makes absolutely no sense for his character at all.
So yeah, fuck that.
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>>25481503
And it implies that Nick would just give up on Judy completely, so it's bad for multiple reasons.
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>>25481452
>Tfw Jack doesn't technically exist in zootopia but everyone obsesses over him
>Same with Skye
>Tfw people obsess over the characters that never made it into the full story
>Zistopia.wav
>One of the few that I've seen hold any water would be Honey
>Tfw she's more of a surrogate mother figure for Nick
>Jack doesn't even have enough character development beyond cuckold & being a "spy"
>Judy & Nick get called the otp due to their life & death journey
>Ppl throw in Jack cuz rabbit x rabbit
>Honey rarely gets thrown in
>Everyone always forgets about finnic
>Tfw i still laugh at him having the voice of a big Blackman
>He's also Apperently French given the music he plays in his van
>Even Mr Big & his daughter have more development than Jack
>Tfw
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>>25481382
But the way people treat WildeHopps here is Jay Naylor cuckolding level, you get some that is about them then you have people making it about predator on prey stealing and other dynamics anon pointed out. That's what he is arguing about how predator and prey would be seen in Zootopia and the thread content kind of support it.
>>25481503
I don't think you're following the conversation. Thanks for the input, nonetheless.
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>>25481544
>File name
>Inb4 Fuck off borba
Yeah. Considering they escaped a life & death situation together, they have more trust in each other than most others
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>>25481561
My absolute favorite worldbuilding / writing / art is where Jack is an _actor_ who plays a famous spy - the Zootopian James Bond.
I fucking love this concept.
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>>25481469
what about fox dick knot?
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>>25481452
>>25481561
Hey, if Anons would like to read a fic that absolutely takes the piss out of all the overused tropes in WildeHopps fanfic, check this out:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/11046789?view_full_work=true
(Not mine, just shillin')
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>>25481607
> Cute little rabbit saving the world
Wouldn't the audience of Zootopia just view those movies as a joke?
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>>25480783
Sadly I think pred/prey is actually a very rare thing in zootopia

Unless there are hybrids / or cartoon logic offspring is randomly one parent's species, I imagine at least 90% of the couples are same species, after all having offsprings in a natural desire, and not even many homosexual people are willing to give up on that, thus choosing some other method instead of adopting.

I think though zootopia is very open minded, only 10% of each species is interested in inter-species stuff. Which means 90 prey and 10 predator in a 100 mammals, since we know there are nealy 90% of the population is prey. And now the fun thing: not everyone would be interested in pred/prey. Maybe just another species of predator or another prey ( tiger x lion, deer x horse, mouse x squirrel etc) If only 10% of interspecies interested mammals are also interested in pred/prey, that means 9 prey and 1 predator.

Damn, now I am surprised all stories revolve around Nick competing for Judy's attention, Judy should be the one afraid, at least 8 other prey are out to get her fox.
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>>25481340
>>25481567
>the way people treat WildeHopps here is Jay Naylor cuckolding level
Are you on drugs
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>>25481711
Less so after the Night Howler incident and Judy becoming a cop, I think.
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>>25481729
I don't think so. Judy is one rabbit out of millions. Changing public perception takes a lot of time.
Also, most fics with Jack the actor setting, usally have the movie(s) already existing before Judy became a cop.
Seriously, those movies would be comedies.
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>>25481718
This idea is correct only if you work with averages.
Since the 9:1 is inspired from nature (much more preys than predators) it could be that there are much more small sized mammals than bigger (like in nature).
This means that a big part of those 90% are mice-like mammals, meaning that for a certain size class it is possible to have an equal or even bigger number of predators than preys.
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>>25481807
Eh, you have your headcanon and I have mine. I love the idea of actor Jack playing a James Bunny kind of character, so that's what I'm going with. :)
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>>25481561
My personal headcanon for him is mostly a retelling of ProtoJudy, I can't really explain how it would work just some ideas. He's really part of those great organizations with agents and whatnot, but just a small irrelevant part of it that deals less with action and more with intel or management. Much like original proto Judy, he has a bunch of leads over some grand conspiracy and his own personal investigation on it, but he knows he can't really do anything about it as either nobody believes him or "just a bunny" thing.
Judy taking down Lionhart triggers him into trying to bring to light said conspiracy even if that probably would ruin his career and probably get him killed. He's less of a super special agent John Wick and more of a more cautious and diplomatic Judy that doesn't have the whole police training or optimistic view. Not sure how Skye fits in all this aside from helping him with stuff he needs to do like hacking somewhere or other weird devices to help him.
Can't really address any theme of prejudice with both, but it's not like I'll write it.
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>>25481924
>admin / middle management Jack caught up in a big bad conspiracy that goes way over his head
This is actually thought out pretty well, Anon. Not bad. I could dig it.
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>>25481561
>Everyone always forgets about finnic

Honestly, I've seen a lot of fics with Finnick in there as a semi-regular presence, and I am still surprised by how popular he is considering he has only three scenes in the movie where he talks, and those are only a handful of lines. But people treat him like he is a childhood friend of Nick's, a surrogate father-figure, etc.

Also, kind of tired of the "Finnick has a stupidly large dick" trope that everyone seems to give him. Like, he is less than half of Judy's height, but there are fics where he bangs one of her sisters and they go "yeah, he is WAY bigger than a buck"
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>>25482048
>Also, kind of tired of the "Finnick has a stupidly large dick" trope that everyone seems to give him.
That's just a general Furry thing, Anon. Huge to Hyper tits and cocks just come with the territory.
I agree it's fucking stupid, but when a huge proportion of the art is done by insecure teenagers and twenty-somethings...
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>>25478577
>>25478589
Well done! I love this kind of stuff, seeing how the world of Zootopia can be a lot different from ours.
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>>25482097
Flat is justice.
Hyper can fuck right off forever.
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>>25482110
Off-by-one error in the posts I replied to - shift 'em up one.
Otherwise, I stand by what I said.
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>>25481420
to be fair, those fics wouldnt be any better without jack either. there are a lot of fics out there that have judy act like a completely abortion of an enraging shitstain where jack is nowhere to be seen. and worse of all, its either never acknowledged, acknowledged and waved off, treated as if she was in the right or worse of all, the author using it for some sort of weird self-fulfillment fantasy and it gets even more enraging.
i cant really hate jack when jack is acting like a douche while the author wants you to think he is a douche while judy is acting like a douche while the author wants you to empathize and understand her situation.
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>>25481561
Half of these don't even apply. I feel like I'm having a stroke with all the people nodding.
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Poor vixe is crying because Jack is away on a work related trip.

Cheer her up
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>>25482314
The only thing that can cheer up this vixe is a bun acting adorable
Also anal
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>>25480966
Spoken like a true cuck
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>>25482329
Nighthowler enema?
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>>25482314
Bunny cuddles make everything better.
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>>25482314
No
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>>25482329
Patootie vixe is not for anal. She's for filling her up with a creampie.
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>>25482414
So long as that creampie is in her butt
Or its a bunny in a pie covered in cream with a cherry on their nose acting cute
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>>25482441
a creampie is vaginal anon. Why are you obsessed with anal on vixens? There's Skyler for that
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>>25482475
Not vixens
Just Skye
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>>25482485
SKYE. IS. NOT. FOR. ANAL.

I want her to have a pregnant belly. You can't get that with the pooper.
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>>25482240
>have judy act like a completely abortion
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>>25482539
Travel back in time and have Bonnie abort OOC Judy.
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>>25482510
Neither with rabbits.
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>>25482510
if nick can have buttbabies
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>>25482272
So the sister is trying to cuck Judy? Seems like the girl didn't need anything more than a glance either.
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>>25482272
This ol thang, wrecks the trains
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>>25482240
Heh, that reminds me of that one-shot where Nick committed some bunny faux pas that was offensive, and had to find out some elaborate and convoluted rabbit ritual from Bonnie to get Judy to talk to him. People thought it was romantic and sweet, and I am just sitting there thinking "what a bitch" when Nick was asking, and at some points begging, Judy what did he do and she was just content to not talk to him for almost a week and seemingly forever after that.
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>>25482539
ironically i didnt hate either of them in that comic mostly because it seemed more amusing and less serious, to be honest
>>25483382
holy shit get out of my head, thats literally the one i was thinking when i made that post. its not the worst offender but definitely one that annoyed me. i mean i get what the author was going for, but it ended up making judy really insufferable in a completely harmless scenario. when an anon posted the summary of it i thought it'd go something like pack street stuff where you kind of get a massive shitstorm then an olive branch and people willingly meeting in the middle, but in the end we had a shitstorm inside judy head, nick desperately offering several olive branches while everyone laughed at it and judy acted even worse, some ultimatum of she moving to another unit forcing nick to sneak into her stuff, get her mother phone, talk to her behind her back to maybe get a chance of forgiving it, especially with the "secret bunny handshake" kind of thing.
you get force of nature with jack but you also get that one without jack.
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Friendly reminder that /co/ is holding a Ms. /co/ pageant and Judy Hopps is currently in the running. She'll probably beat Noodle, but she'll definitely need some help next round.
>>>/co/110088370
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>>25483607
>you get force of nature with jack but you also get that one without jack.

Man was Force of Nature a complete shitshow. Completely random supernatural elements, the whole "Judy constantly thinking about Jack" shtick, the evil father cliche, miracle first of its kind hybrid baby, etc. Though "Nick being so heartbroken he joins terrorists" probably annoys me the most.
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>>25484738
>Spinel
Sorry Judy, I cant help you.
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>>25484606
>>25484667
Good stuff anon.
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>>25484606
Instant save. Thanks capper anon
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Skye has been binge eating since Jack's trip. You didn't comfort her enough. Now she's a chubby vixen. She's no more patoot.
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>>25485010
Vore?
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>>25484818
Who the fuck is spinel?
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Comic hasn't posted in almost a month, hope you're doing well friend
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>>25484818
>>25484818
fuck
she is a new steven's universe character, a villain, and worse, she is pretty good from what I heard (tho I'm not in the SU fandom)

Judy is going up against someone new and cute from a relatively large fandom. Sadly I'm afraid that the other anon is right and our Judy will lose to the newcomer simply because she is new and has greater hype.
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>>25485166
Well furfags & /trash/ alike will probs vote for Judy, so there might be a chance
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>>25485058
If you're actually curious and don't care to watch several seasons of SU to find out...
*HEAVY SPOILER WARNING*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ0-mBlIB6o
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>>25481066
>Skyler > Nick
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>>25485376
Huh. Neat. Thanks anon desu. Either way, I still voted for Judy
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>>25485040
i kinda wanna draw it but it would probably cause too much shitposting
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>>25485125
Comic died for our sins
RIP
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>>25485125
I'm a bit worried too, it's been too long since his last message
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>>25485622
I'm sure it'll always be welcome in the vore threads.
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>>25486238
Doubt it.
They're pretty hellbent on keeping artists away from there out of fear they'll turn their threads into "another OC circlejerk."
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>>25485578
Yeah, I won't be TOO upset if Spinel wins because it's not just SU=good, it was a pretty good movie and she's a good character.
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>>25486290
please help me I'm slow

what is this image meant to represent in this context
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>>25486570
I cant say that I've really enjoyed the most recent SU seasons that much. But the movie was pretty good.
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>>25478619
Hey Tangerine, hit me up on discord, I want to know how I should handle your submission
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>>25487640
Gotta admit, that's some pretty good lighting
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>>25486807
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>>25487754
>>25487767
>pawpads
>that hat
>obligatory Bogo
Kayla is a decent artist but i swear every one of their drawings has some unecessary element to it that curbs my appreciation.
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>>25482393
>whats up nick kun could you be cravin my

>mcbunnies?
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>>25488986
Pls anon, you're scaring me
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>>25486807
I dunno, i just seen a lot of wojak variations with only quotes around trash and ztg and since it is highly unusual to see in off of 4channel or from bumpfag, i posted assuming it was a bot
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the japs would love Charmy
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>>25488778
Aww, cuddly buns!
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>>25489458
i can't tell which character is which or what's happening in the bottom panel(s?)
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And while Skye is out on the town on her date with Nick, Jack is getting his bun hole bunned by Nick. As it should be.
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>/ztg/: japs are all pedos who only like cliche shit
>also ztg:
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>>25479431

I mean youre not wrong since it has ara ara mommy, kuudere, tsundere, athletic big sister and small girl (male). It's just funny coming straight from the horse's mouth.
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>>25489490
Skye is giving Nick a smooch under the fireworks
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>>25489507
...is Anneke the tsundere?
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>>25489690
She was at the start at least. Which is the usual
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>>25479431
I don't really have a proper understanding of Japanese to back up this claim, but I've heard before that Pack Street is not the kind of story that is easily translatable to Japanese. Something about the American-style social structure and the way casual and 'impolite' conversation works in English (compared to how both work in Japanese) being a significant barrier for it translating properly to that language.
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>>25489769
they do say fuck a lot
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>>25489808
Just change it to duck. Everyone loves ducks.
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