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This is OzzySay something nice about him!
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>>22761605He's not in jail.
>>22761605You're great. Although I prefer you with a penis
>>22761605Trans Ozzy makes way too much sense and I am gonna headcanon that hard
>>22761587>Pie Knight"OH 'ELL FACKIN NO!"
>>22761677Same, he looks better this way.
>>22761959I really like his shaggy stripes. And shaggy everything.You know? He has the same sorta unkempt, disheveled cuteness that Remmy has.
>>22761677Ozzy is perfect no matter what
https://foxialist.tumblr.com/
>>22761865I hope we get a cool History TT entry from Spoofer, his buns in armor are so cute.
>>22761605desu i expected velvet to be the trans reveal but ozzy is fine too
>>22762188>>22762460>>22762474This is the content I come here for!
>>22761605>>22761677Who draws and posts this shit? It's awful!
>>22762795me
>>22762801You're AWFUL! Stop embarrassing yourself. Don't post that shit, anymore.
>>22762708Nah, Velvet's had her antlers and been referred to as a girl since she was a kid, I doubt she would've been on HRT thenOzzy makes much more sense though>>22762795Weaver
>>22762822>>22762708Yeah, and her admittedly bigoted brother was referring to her as his sister since she was like 5.I'm not against the theory, I just think it's more likely she's a doe with antlers, which can happen.I'm also pretty sure HRT would get rid of her antlers, considering their growth is triggered by a surge of testosterone.
>>22762812
Is it true Weaver is a female to male transexual? Asking for a friend
>>22762980Weaver is whatever gender they want to be
>>22762576
>>22763068Such a cute poss>>22763081Aw damn! Thank you Spoof, you're a true hero! Judy's with a torch and axe is damn neat. Is she a guard?
>>22763041that still does not answer the question
>>22762980It doesn't matter, anon.It's easier if you think of Weaver as a force.
>>22763106Dont worry about it
>>22763100Neither, she was supposed to be dancing, but then I saw your post and and just re purposed it
>>22763167I'll just say she's having a great time at her job.
>>22763145I am now satisfied
>>22762145Scraggly and disheveled guys are great in general.
>>22763081Nice TT entry Spoof. Always happy when you decide to jump in.
>>22763490This was more happy chance than anything ha ha
>>22763217Hey, you know what? You may be on to something.Every cute boy in this story is disheveled in some way. Al, Rex, Wolter. Those guys are all scruffy and a little messy.
>>22763691Does that make Don a cutie too then?his boyfriend is kinda cuter though and hes not very disheveled at all
>>22763745He'll win us all over in the next chapter if we see him crying over Dewey's scruffy hospitalised body
>>22763691I think it's mostlu because i lean more towards the wiry and scraggly guys, so i chalk this more because it being my tastes.>>22763745And yes, i do like Don along with the other guys in his pack. Like as in "think they look good" to clarify.
>>22763904I think it'll take more than just crying over his bf to win everyone overMaybe if they also had a passionate kiss...
>>22763928I appreciate this because too many people hyper focus on larger, fatter guys, it's nice to see the whole spectrum represented.>>22763937>>22763745>>22763904Don's crew is pretty scruffy.I'm hoping it comes down to some confrontation involving Pandora's own testimony if they visit her hospital room in the next part. I'm confident that telephone message will go a long way.
>>22763217>>22763691>>22763928Patrician taste, anonsThe scruffier the better
>>22763937I was talking about us as in the audience
>>22764105So was II wanna see them kiss
>>22761605She is a very lovely person.
>>22762140God, I'll never not love weaver's interpretation of HonNick.
>>22764362Ozzy a boy, anon
>>22764381She doesn't have any testicles in that pic, anon.
>>22764399No he doesnt, but thats alright, he's just a boy with a pussy
>>22764399That pic is him as a hypothetical transman
>>22764381>>22764415>>22764419wow can't believe you guys are still so transphobics.m.h
>>22764471Here we go
>>22762474Judy's tail is much fluffier than that
>>22764471You really shouldn't reply to the troublemakers. That only validates that their effort is paying off. Promote and encourage positive interactions, instead.
>>22764624do you think any mention of trans people is trolling, anon?
>>22764643It might as well be for all the shitposting it causes
>>22764624You really shouldn't reply to the troublemakers. That only validates that their effort is paying off. Promote and encourage positive interactions, instead.
>>22764624Also, if you didn't notice, neither of these ( >>22764415 >>22764419 ) are even remotely transphobicEver consider you might be the one replying to the troublemaker, anon?
>>22764664Have a little more trust in peopleI like trans Ozzy a lot, no trolling here
>>22764649Ahhh!Jesus, anon. We don't do gore here!
>>22761677I wanna touch the teen yeen's peen
>>22764686I just like thinking every male on PS is secretly a girl, and it's just hard to tell.I still wanna see Allyson.
>>22764664maybe if people didn't get so buttmad over the idea of their favorite character being trans people would shut up about it
>>22762474Funny, I looked at the thumbnail and figured, 'hey, someone got clever and did the underwater/overwater size change in an artwork.'Oh well...
>>22764704He's 21!>>22764705Please anon, the only guy that pretends to be a girl sometimes is Dewey
>>22764704He's 21
>>22764727Judy's ass is no optical illusion
>>22764733>>22764742my fetish is now in shamblesi'd be okay with anneke or avo touching the yeen peen
>>22764770Wolter will, take it or leave it
>>22764733>Never Marty. He doesn't believe in gender fluidity
>>22764777Deus Vulpes! The holy trinity has spoken! Someone must make it happen!
>>22764785Martina is just his sister anon
>>22764815Yeah, he'd have never invited Remmy to his and his sister barbecue if his sister wasn't real.It doesn't make sense to force events where you're both supposed to be present if there's really only one of you.
>>22764815Exactly. Any thoughts entertaining a different idea will be laughed off in a nervous, head sweatingly, panic attack-y way that is not suspicious in the slightest by him. He has nothing to hide. Martina did say that what you see is what you get from him, after all. We can trust "her" judgement! I do, at least.
>>22764852He's only nervous because you're a creep suggesting that he dresses up as his sister for sexual pleasure, anon
>>22764870Why does sexual pleasure factor into wanting to and enjoying playing the part of a sweet young girl which sharply contrasts with your irritated, unwelcoming demeanor like a breath of fresh air?
>>22764938letni
>>22761605So this is why Avo was worried he'd gotten pregnant
>>22764954Headcanon accepted
>>22764373>I'll never not love weaver's interpretation of HonNick.
>>22765294The way you communicate two characters in a relationship is really something special, WeaverIt's very cute honestly
>>22765294>>22765363True.I always want to see lewds of Al & Velvet because they're actually a wonderful couple.
>>22765401
>>22765508See, man, that's the good shit.Whether it's AlVet or HonNick, you know how to making loving very comf.
>>22765363This one is my personal favorite
Good to see weaver is out and about on the threads again. Hope things get better for you bud
>>22761677It was a quiet night
No real context
>>22766063Everyone should have lunch in Ozzy's room
>>22765867>Charlie pressed her lips against his chest, and while their eyes barely meet, she takes a deep breath of his fur.>Both of her paws wrap around his cock as she rubs up and down its length.>When his breath hitches, and he tries to sputter out anything, she stands on her toes and presses her lips to his for a moment.>"If you want me to stop, then say so," she tells him, while her paws continue their firm massage along his shaft.>His arms wrap around her small figure, and one of his parge paws comes to rest at the back of her head.>Leaning down, he presses his nose to hers, and then his nervous, twitching lips.>Then Remmy steps through the room, asking about a fucking Bug Burga.
>>22766096feels good to finally have written something :vgoodnight you fuckfaces v:
>>22766115>implying the almond joy story doesn't count
>>22766181now i'm sad again
>>22766225I'm joking, sleep well haha.
now i can sleep :u with sad memories of that horrible candybar
I want Cliff, Neil, and Remmy to triple penetrate Ozzy
>>22765508>>22765294I love that Pack and Zoot has really given you a field to flex how good you are at writing relationships, Weave.I didn't see it enough previously, but damn. It's really grounded and sweet.
>>22766440He writes, like, two romantic relationships. Al/Velvet and Anneke/Wolter. Not really much to flex.
>>22766455shhhhhhhhhhhshhhh
>>22766455Do Cliff/Neil count?
>>22766478He was shitposting, anon, there's also Don/DeweyAnd since it was in reference to Zoot at large, messing with Judy/Nick and Nick/Honey that started the convo
>>22766490Im genuinely asking, how do people like their relationships?They don't get much focus but there's a few things that slip in here and there
>>22765294>I understood that reference
>>22766503
>>22766501I think the dialogue is very natural and the way they bounce off each other is very good.It's not a lot of focus overall, but it's basically 0-100 relative to previous works focus on canonical relationships.
he is happy for you
>>22766440Dialog-wise, Late Stake might be the best written porn comic I've ever read.
>>22766659Im gonna kiss that cute happy wolf
>>22761587
>>22766659>*happy awoo intensifies*
>>22766659I love this happy wolf!
>>22766680Exactly this.
>>22766659Is this a new pic?! That you Skunkbutt? It's rad to see you again if so, if not then it's okay-ish to see you Anonbun.>>22766702A classic yeen bard, so cute.
>>22766680Not just that, but no subsequent comic makes the porn take precedence over the characters. Take Burrow Sharing Policy, we never rush the actual characterization to get to the dicking.
>>22766659>>22766704Normally I'd fine you for awoo'ing in public... but I'll let it slide this timeWhat a happy doggo
>>22766659Gary is a precious awoo, would hug/10
>>22766754To be fair that's because Weaver basically doesn't put dicking in his porn. It's all just talking.
>>22766974Well shit then I like it.Though to be honest most of them aren't "porn comics" so much as they are nsfw comics, since the dicking is rarely on screen.Late Stake is a porn comic, Tiger Oil could be generally construed as one, since Remmy's masturbation is a core focus of it, even though no bits are ever actually shown. But I'd say the rest I can think of are generally just nsfw rather than outright pornographic.
>>22766659This is such a happy Wolf, i love it.Nice to see you again Skunkbutt.
>>22766659
>>22767035I love the care Dora gives to Remmy in that comic. She's clearly initially weirded out by his creepy forwardness of "I just really have to fuck you right now," like, ew, dude, did you actually just say that with complete seriousness in your voice?But then she takes care of him and it's oddly sweet and sexy how she helps him out.
>>22766659I'm happy to see you, SB.
>>22767381Sleep tight Anon
>>22767381Sleep tight bunner
>>22767381
>>22766748Yeah, it's new.>>22766714>>22767103thanks, anons
>>22767490
>>22767490You really are a nice guy. Hope you've been doing fine.
>>22767134Very, it's much like taking care of a drunk or high friend who is drinking/smoking for the first time.It's not about sex, it's just helping a friend.
I have a mosquito flying around my computer and I keep losing track of it before I can kill itWhat do?
>>22767797Get a bat bf.
>>22767797Turn your brightness down and turn on a light.Then turn on a light down the hallway and turn off your light.You have now lured the mosquito into the hallway.
>>22767660I appreciate it! I've been well but kept very busy by my internship.>>22767549Maybe when I've got more free time on my hands.
>>22767957Oh you're skunkbutt!You draw my absolutely favourite Avos.Thank you!I hope your internship is going well
>>22767979>>22767957Agreed.Love SB's Avo. Love their take on most of the PS ladies, for that matter.
>>22768321I'm still trying to figure out how Avo hid that extra beer can under her collar.That's a brilliant pic, by the way.
>>22768321Wrong kind of fox for Charlie, mind.
>>22767957
>>22768321I like how zoot-like his Betty looks like
>>22768737Agreed
>>22761587Too drunk to look through it all.Any JudyxAnon in the pastebin or is it all JudyxNick/ OCxOC ?
>>22768737She kinda looks male-ish, but I don't think there are any female wolves in official zoot art.>is that cigarette just floating there
>>22768774Afraid not Anon, most people here are against any kind of human in Zootopia type of thing.
>>22768802Mostly because we have taste
>>22768774Given the whole point of the movie was that there aren't any humans in the setting, most of the community, here and elsewhere, don't really do the Anon thing.Human x Zoot does exist, just don't expect it to be here; it gets (perhaps rightfully) meme'd to death.
>>22768776>She kinda looks male-ishAnd that's why I like it cause male and female zoots shouldn't look that different (except for a few background characters like the DMV pig and the elephant mother, who both had breasts). Even Avo looks sort of man-ish
>>22768823shitty taste
BRING COCKS BACK TO TUMBLR! BRING COCKS BACK TO TUMBLR!!!! CALL YOUR SENATOR! AMEND THE CONSTITUTION! REVOLUTION!!!
>>22761623>JackboxIs that like a cumbox? https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cumbox
Bellwether gets fucked in the ewe-terus!
>>22769257what the fuck is that thing?>>22769077The movie creators wanted to distance humans from Zootopia so badly they didn't include any monkeys at all.
Page nine furfags.
Ah haha, janny deleted my thread on /v/.
You think mammals in the Zootopia universe pluck their whiskers, kind of like their version of facial hair, or do they just not have any?
>>22770400>pluck their whiskersIf they're real whiskers as per what animals in our real world have, of course they don't. It would cripple their sensory capabilities. Whiskers are highly sensitive, critical appendages for most animals to interact with their environment. Grooming them and keeping them in perfect working condition is a high priority.
>>22763081A medieval bun is always fun. Wonderful entry, Spoof buddy.>>22765294That's funny. I wasn't expecting to see that referenced ever.>>22766659I'm happy for him, and happy for you, Skunk! Hope you're doing well.>>22766702Ozzy as a bard makes perfect sense. But who would the rest of the Pack be? This question will have to be answered at a more reasonable answer.Goodnight, magical and wonderful /ztp/ threads. I hope you don't spend all night thinking about which classes the Pack would be.
>>22770942>This question will have to be answered at a more reasonable answerYou sleep tight, Virtual Reality Lapine, you deserve a good rest.
>>22770942Sleep tight bunner
>>22764727Then Judy would be handstanding.
>>22771540I wonder which one is gay
>>22770569Adorable pirate mouse; capturing what looks like half a dubloon's worth of mouse-gold
>>22771588>handstandingI know what you mean, but that would happen if she was being viewed from completely underwater.The art depicts a camera with a front screen where the waterline can be seen, so the refraction difference would be seen.(this is quick and rough)
>>22771766yeah, that could also work.
>>22766659No
glasses bun x tired fox
>>22768823>"We have taste">Furry image board with loads and loads of fetishesAnon...
>>22767797blast it with piss
>>22772218Nick isn't distracted because he gets that booty every night anyways
Being a foot fetishist in Zootopia must be a treat
>>22773040what if you have a gay fetish?
>>22773472Where's his butthole? That's his most important part.
>>22773760Can't find an entrance? Create one! It's that simple.
>>22773840I'll just use his smart mouth instead
>>22774052Coward. If you keep finding alternate ways in life you'll just end up weak!
>>22774222We're in luck, I found it!
>>22774545That luck is gonna run dry one day, son, and then you won't know what to do. The only thing that'll be crying is your eyes, not your penis.
big
>>22774727... for you.
>>22774746Do you feel in charge?
>>22775080>page 10 in 25 minutesno
Anyone here like Marty?
>>22775771Which one is marty?
>>22775800The little one with the angry face
>>22775771McFly?
Who created this and isn't there a better version?
>>22775810The badger?
>>22776426Rex isnt an angry boy, he's calm and at peace with life
>>22776472He's a good badger, that is for sure.
>Wolter and Anneke are a little more physicall affectionate than most siblings
>>22776259SGaR (Skeleton Guys and Ragdolls)
>>22761605I think he's beautiful enough to be uploaded to the booru, even if some anons don't think so.
>>22776472I hope he shows up in the fics again.
>>22777587
>>22777587o kurwa
>>22778275I like this.>FilenameAgree, hugs are good for everyone.
>>22777626If she dies while moving does the animation halt her movement or does she continue forward?
>>22775771He might be my favorite character, actually.
>>22775771Marty is a more interesting character than people give him credit for, in terms of being outright protective, and aware of these issues.He's cynical as all hell, but in terms of starting awareness of Remmy, he's not wrong. Well, he needs to be moderated by someone like Betty to tone down some of his accusations, but I think Remmy could learn a lot from Marty.
>>22777445>Remmy goes to bug burga the next day.>Rex looks at his face and smirks, telling him he probably deserved it.>Remmy reels back in betrayal before Rex laughs and tells him he's just joking.>Remmy doesn't laugh.>Rex rings up his order without asking Remmy what he wants.>"Hey, wait! You didn't even ask me what I'm ordering!">"One double roach deluxe, skip the hay fries, go extra on the ketchup and a large soda. Oh, and you only order larges on bad days, and from the look of things..." He smiles, his smug attitude a huge contrast to his kind and almost noble demeanor.>"You're order three-twenty-two. Hi, may I take your order," he asks the man who impatiently pushes the injured ram out of the way to reach the asshole cashier.>It's clear to Remmy why Ozzy broke up with the badger now.
>>22778727WowwwThis was fun, though. I do like to picture how people would react to Remmy, though.I feel like he'd probably be bandaged/gauzed just after, but I wonder if Remmy would have a scar.Does anyone have art of Remmy with claw scars across his snout?
>>22778687I like him in the first chapter where Remmy meets Charlie. He's immediately accusing Remmy of all the wrong things while also being right about certain others.Things he gets wrong:>Remmy goes to his house to be nosy>Remmy is "self-aggrandizing" for trying to stick his nose in other people's business>Remmy went in to try and fuck Charlie>Remmy broke his door downThings he gets right:>Remmy thinks Pack is a bad place just because he comes from a neighborhood which looks nicer>Remmy doesn't like them just because he's scared of them and doesn't try to know them first>Remmy is self-aggrandizing because he would rather hide away instead of at least being civil>Remmy doesn't know shit about stoatsAnd Remmy's right about one thing here too, and it's that he did try to help out by seeing if anybody was home in case there was a burglary. And Marty responds by trying to bite his face. For a guy who's angry at somebody else for not treating them like non-hostile assholes, he's sure quick to act like a hostile asshole before thinking about anything else.It's all because Marty's been looked down upon by others his whole life, not just literally. He fixates on sheep culture and how they have great families and nice homes, good pedigrees, etcetera. But he doesn't know shit about Remmy either. He doesn't know what Remmy went through to end up there, and while he's not obligated to be civil to a self centered prick, he isn't entitled to fly off of the handle just because he doesn't like said prick either.
>>22778894Yeah, from Marty's perspective, he doesn't particularly care if he's wrong about 50% or even 75% of those accusations, because the things he's right about, or what Remmy even represents, are threats to his home.It's very easy to blow him off because he was wrong about some accusations, but fundamentally Remmy is speciest, and was a total prick for the first week before the fic started, so I don't think Marty is wrong in thinking he represents what's wrong with zootopian prey culture, especially during the savage crisis.From his perspective, Ozzy got jumped only a few weeks ago, and a walking reminder just came to his door. Or through it, as the case may be.
>>22778894>>22778949It's also worth pointing: out we learn later that Remmy's narration has holes in it. For example, when we the reader meet Al in Chapter 1, Remmy has *already* met him. He describes him from a few run-ins, but doesn't explain much of what those were like.The story doesn't cover every moment of Remmy's life on Pack Street and more and more we're seeing hints that he wasn't as harmless and inoffensive when he moved in as he says he was. Plus we get the comparison with Phil, the lone wolf, to show that the Pack *is* capable of leaving people alone, but Remmy may have gone past introverted and asocial and into the territory of (unintentionally) shitty behavior.
>>22779089Oh yeah, that's what I meant by Remmy being a prick for at least the first week, I think?He also makes bad judgements and the information we get from him is flawed. So far we know:Remmy is bad at judging speciesRemmy is bad at judging body typesRemmy is bad at judging agesRemmy is bad at judging people
>>22779089Honestly I still cringe reading the first few chapters.Just seeing Remmy being a total shit to these people we all grow to love.
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>>22770942Al - PaladinVelvet - ClericCharlie - RogueAvo - MonkBetty - FighterMarty - LoremasterOzzy - BardRemmy - CavalierAnnie - BarbarianWolter - SwashbucklerNeil - AlchemistCliff - SkaldDon - BloodragerDewey - InvestigatorT-Rex - OracleMartina - VigilanteI will defend any of these.
>>22779657What a good boy
>>22779605What's your reason for making Remmy a Cavalier?
>>22779605>The oracle bug burga badger, using his special deep frying techniques he can read glimpses of the future in the grease stains.
>>22779657Hell yeah Ozzy!
>>22778457atm, movement continues the the Y direction (up-and-down), but stops in the X and Z directions
>>22779690Remmy was a difficult choice, to be honest. But he has a number of stand-up traits that made cavalier a good choice.For one, he is consistently at his best when he is acting selflessly, because it works past his previous issues of being selfish (or at least self-centered) as Betty noted. That's been a notable trend of the last few chapters, he puts others first. First with Jam with the cop, and 'For a Friend' with Charlie, quite literally charging off (on an admittedly borrowed steed).Remmy has recently taken the initiative where he doesn't have to. He's taken his position as Omega seriously, whether approaching Al on the steps, or helping Wolter go to Bunnyburrow. And holding to others, showing solidarity with Pandora.Cavaliers are found advancing their cause directly, their power comes from the conviction of their ideals and their increasing willingness to put others first. The oaths they swear and the way they help their fellows, even if it means being a bit of a punching bag in combat.>This comic was also an inspirationYou don't have to stand your ground, as long as you Power Forward
>>22779856Is this going to be playable in-browser?
>>22779793https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/archetypes/paizo-oracle-archetypes/divine-herbalist/Yeah, I looked at this archetype, and I was like...yeah, this is Rex.(I promise it wasn't mostly a weed joke)
>>22779866Well said. Fucking wow, dude. That was extremely convincing! Al's van as his borrowed steed is a hilarious and on point example. Cavalier Remmington, traveler from the Medowlands.
>>22779866Remmy's character arc is honestly the best thing about Pack Street. Thanks for putting a lot of thoughts into words better than I ever could.
>>22779605Now I wanna hear your reasons for making Wolter a Swashbuckler.
>>22780115Admittedly I was working with a limited set, Pathfinder (the setting I'm most familiar with, as well as the one with the most base classes) doesn't fit predominantly social classes that well, but!Wolter is, in my opinion, the most stable unappreciated member of the pack. Like his sister he's principled, rejecting anyone in bed who is even a year younger than him. He virtually never fights with people, Al noting that an argument between him and Annie is unheard of.But he's willing to still stand up for someone he recently met to someone he's known his entire life because he thinks he's right.Swashbucklers appear arrogant, maybe daring and perhaps all too devil-may-care, but underneath that there is a consistent, stable person. They're known for their humour and convincing personality, but they don't 'get lucky', they earn every step, and as a frequent dancer, so I feel like his footwork is probably pretty great.Wolter is there for his sister against the world, but he's his own person who puts himself out there for her, but also stands up when he think she's wrong. That's not easy for someone who has evidently faced a lot of hardship and rejection. >Don't let the swashbuckler's easy grin fool youIt's not a charmed life.
>>22780277(I also didn't want to put him and Annie in the same class, same as with Marty/Martina, Don/Dewey, or Cliff/Neil)
>>22779592>register to chat
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>>22780559That was fun! But now I have to go, I leave my place for other anonsAlso destroy all that blatantly fake "photo evidence" ManedMay you have a good night /ztg/
>>22780540>Avo & Ozzy pairingI didn't know I needed this but now I desire more.
>>22780277That's excellent man, great character analysis. I'm really into these descriptions. (As a side note, I laughed when I went and looked up the Skald class after seeing Cliff's designation. It's perfect. He really screwed up, summoning up that Bloodrager's wrath.)
>>22780622Buona notte tuber
>>22780622You mean like this? Sleep tight Asig
>>22780657Hahah, yeah, I really wanted to focus on his primary traits>Ripped>Gossip>Dating NeilAnd with Neil being an alchemist (being another cook), both possess ways of becoming physically stronger (through mutagens in Neil's case).Also we first meet Cliff he's spotting Neil, so I figured he'd be a force whose encouragement makes you stronger.>And he's a chatty catty who unintentionally inspires wrath
:V
>>22779605Dewey must've been the hardest to pin down Im guessing?What made you decide investigator?
>>22780969I was debating between Vigilante for him or Martina, because it's the most 'civilian' class, but I settled on Martina deserving that one because it emphasizes her social role in supporting the community.>There's the added element of the joke that she has an alternate identity, even though I don't personally believe that theory.Dewey fit an investigator because of the first exchange we talked to him about.>Don glances over at Dewey, who's pulled his cell from his coat pocket and has it aimed at me. "Dewey? Don't.">"But--">"Don't," Don echoes, much more firmly. "Imagine if you were over off of Flock eating salad, and someone was doing that to you. Worse, imagine what the boss would say if she found out. We're not freelancers anymore."That was it:>We're not freelancers anymoreThis implied to me that they both held some kind of job that independently supports photographers, which are typically journalists, paparazzi or other various kinds of information brokers. In all cases, knowing things are the trade, and being in the right place at the right time is crucial.I suspect that may have played into Don being able to find out if he was looking into it (even if he leapt to conclusions), and all it took was one wrong place at the wrong time for Dewey.
>>22780933
>>22781031Democracy is a joke
>>22780559I apologize for the final roundI thought that unlike the last rounds this would be a lightning round of new drawings since it gave a different introsorryi'll sit the rest out
>>22781175don't worry about it. that was hilarious
>>22781024Ive never even thought of them of investigators before, but the idea has a nice ring to itI always assumed Don and Neil happened to be friends, but him going out to try to find information about Dewey's mauling is a pretty good ideaI like this headcanon
>>22781210>NeilI meant CliffThe one with the big mouth
>>22781175okay now I want to know what Weaver drew
>>22781291this: >>22781145I stupidly took up the whole canvas so people had a hard time adding on to it and they weren't very happy about it
>>22781291He drew the bird face, but derailed the rest of the round because the drawing took up the entire canvas, leaving little room for anyone else to add anything. We got creative. For example, Weaver (I think?) stuffed a bunch of fox tails in the mouth when the game prompted to add a tail to the picture.>>22781342Nah, no one's mad. That was great. Actually the most fun final draw I've played.
>>22781210Yeah, not necessarily formal PIs, but someone in information.The thing I've spent the most time debating is Pandora. I didn't wanna go the typical barbarian route, because the savage event was not -her-, so to speak.Vigilante was my highest consideration for her so it hints at a darker side to her without overshadowing her more mercantile, public-speaking element that is actually the Pandora we know and love.There's a few archetypes that would work, but I wanted to mostly focus on base classes. Prestige classes could work, though, hmm.
>>22780723I need to see a continuation with Terry pounding that gazelle ass.
>>22781582You're gonna need Asig's permission, but he likes keeping lewds between him and his boyfriends all to himselfwhy do you think he's constantly telling people to delete them?
gimme some sketch ideas
>>22781609Gary and Larry being cute... or lewd... or both
>>22781609Don and Dewey as paparazzi!With the cute hats and everything
>>22779592And that's the stream. Thank you for coming. I'll post highlights soon.>>22781609Judy's new phone is too big
>>22781609Judy wearing nothing but a big hat
>>22781625>The house is always totally empty. >He doesn't even own it.
>>22781609Judy dressed up as a world war 1 bun?
>>22781625Professor Terry's playboy (playbun?) mansion?
>>22781625>>22781673The evil lair where he and his evil boyfriends make plans to take over the world.
>>22781609Remmy and Betty hanging out together
>>22781609
>>22781860anon, you cant frot with someone with a vagina
>>22781881You haven't tried hard enough
>>22781881
>>22781860
>>22781967>Shoes with the paws peaking outPeak fucking fetish right there.
Do you think Remmy has a paw fetish?I mean, he has hooves, so does his fetish extend past teeth and claws, but also those 'exotic' paws?
>>22782245He has paw envy that comes from being easier to masturbate with them
>>22782245Does he think having four fingers on a hand is exotic? Those four-fingered mutants, man
Genuinely curious:Do people unironically like Pack Street to the point of obsession, or is it some kind of joke?If it's really not, then what's with all the hype?
>>22782302Can rams play the guitar? I can imagine him being sad that he can't play pred rock music because of his limited appendages. Then again with a band named the "Ramboy Dukes" maybe there were actual hooved guitarists
>>22782347First off, have you read it/to what extent?Can clarify from there.
>>22782347It's good and we don't disguise our love for it under layers of ironyPeople genuinely enjoy it and like to discuss it too
>>22782347The hype is that there isn't much else to fixate on. People complain and moan and bitch all the fucking time about this being a zoot general yet no one ever wants to create any ongoing story focused on Zootopia.But yeah, I love pack street unironically. But if you don't then that's fine. Just don't get upset when you see people talking about it when there's literally nothing else to focus on besides fetishes
>>22782382So, you can't explain what you like about it if I've never read it?
>>22782404I would phrase my answer differently between someone who is caught up but enh, and someone who tried it but didn't like the early chapters, and someone who hasn't read a word, yes.
>>22782425Now I'm even more skeptical, and frankly a little bit concerned.
>>22782465Why
>>22782465The idea that the wording of an explanation differs based on someone's experience with the topic?I honestly can't see why.This is incredibly normal for an explanation to gauge what kind of audience the speaker is addressing.
>>22782487>>22782494Why would selling someone on a fic have to depend on whether or not they've already read it?
>>22782509I would give a different sales pitch depending on what they already know?
>>22782509Do you want an explanation or not?
>>22782519I've been asking for one this entire time
>>22782537So first of all, how familiar are you with Pack Street?
>>22782509Alright alright, it's a comedy and our main character is really standoffish and snarky in his narration but is also a giant pussy when talking to everyone. If you like fish it of water stories and suggestive humor as well as wholesome, then you'll like it. If not, then whatever. That's your opinion
>>22782548Alright, we're getting somewhere.Now, what makes it stand out from other fanfics that you've read?
>>22782537I'm going to assume you have no familiarity and are just seeing it pop up in the threads frequently.The attractive elements of Pack Street is that it takes the core element of Zootopia as a whole, the dichotomy and relationship between predator and prey species, and set that in a medium that the movie could not, in a flawed prey narrator perspective set in the heart of a lower income predator neighbourhood.Out of his element, and vulnerable to prejudices and fears, the main character, a very (not intimidating) hornless ram is left to navigate living in a community that is much more engaging and positive than he initially believes. The various characters are rough around the edges, but generally good people, and it all coalesces into a comfy slice of life fic about a guy who is finding his own place in a community that is very different from him.It emphasizes different is not bad, and finding your place in a really well-fleshed out community. The characterization is well-written, the development is basically textbook quality and the world building fits right in to the setting at large.
Weaver also unintentionally kept me from making the worst mistake of my life through Pack, so I am admittedly slightly biased towards it.
>Judy took off her clothes a month ago>Nick got a boner>He mounted her and thrust vigorously>Suddenly his dicktip went "blast!-blast!-blast!-blast!">Judy is now finishing turning Nick's goop into a kit
>>22782609>Not intimidatingI lie awake at night in fear of Remmy Cormo
>>22782653I'm curious. You mind if I ask what it was?
>>22782676Beautiful. This may have changed my life
>>22782693When you're done counting, the sheep comes.
>>22782719I nearly took a job that would've involved deleting every aspect of my internet life without warning or explanation to any of the friends I've made.To them I would've simply died one day, or perhaps abandoned them without ceremony.However, it was also the type of job that would've required explaining what content I read and sites I visited, which I did solely to read his content. I ended up cancelling that application in its last stage as a result, and only weeks after did I realise I came very close to losing all my friends because of a "cool job"Fuck. I would've hated myself if I did that.
>>22782676Why the orange jumpsuit?Is nick in prison? Was this one of many conjugal visits?
>>22782810That sounds like a shit gig. I'm glad you decided not to bend over for big brother and keep all your friends. Having a job with no outlet is torture
>>22782804Golly, Remmy, what a strange fetish you have.
>>22782347Does discussing it with interest on an internet hobby board for Taiwanese scrimshawing count as "obsession" for you?It must be drab caring so little about anything that you see even the slightest spark of enthusiasm as fanaticism.
>>22782878No, but I *would* consider the lusting over characters to the point of mental distress an "obsession."Do you really have this little self-awareness?
>>22782854I've been trying to thank him in small parts ever since, I don't know if I could ever explain why directly, but yeah.Being a spy would fucking suck. Friends are the glue that hold us together.
>>22782930>No, but I *would* consider the lusting over characters to the point of mental distress an "obsession."And where do you see that?
>>22782956https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0s0E_WsqvQ
>>22782962Specifically, when anons are discussing Betty or Charlie
>>22782600>Now, what makes it stand out from other fanfics that you've read?Mostly in the characters and dialogue. Most fanfics struggle to find a voice or pacing and dialogue is robotic. Everyone sounds the same, speaks the same way. Pack Street doesn't really fall into that weakness.
>>22782804>You wind down after a long, hot summer day of frolicking in the beach.>Showered and clean, the saftey of your bed calls to you, its sheets a warm embrace.>The room goes dark at the flick of the light switch and your eyes grow heavy; the lack of awareness to your surroundings is deeply comforting.>The sharpness of a loud, deep voice cuts through your approaching sleep like a rusted knife, digging deep into your chest wrenching you fully awake.>The voice yells in an insolent tone, "Goddammit, I STILL can't find my burga! Where the fuck am I, even?"
>>22781881>you cant frot with someone with a vaginaOf course you can, it's called fucking.
>>22782946
>>22782810Sounds like you avoided becoming a fed. good for you.
>>22783007...which means it isn't frotting
>>22782347>what's with all the hype?It's an exercise in blueballing the readers.
>>22782994See, this is what I was asking for all along.Thank you, anon.
>>22782956Nerd stuff https://youtu.be/J52ecXnl_EE what about you Anon?
>>22783013I don't think it would've just been the loneliness, just the thought that to them, it would've seemed that I didn't give a shit.I just realised that if I did do that? They would've been right.That image is a beautiful choice. Anyways, back to talking about well-written cartoon animals.
>>22783013I should add, you're not alone either, we're all here, and let's have a great time together.
>>22782347>>22782396Worth noting the fanbase, at least by volume of pack street-adjacent discussion and material, is mostly here in the threads. It can seem more popular than it probably is overall.I found it an acquired taste I never acquired, mostly due to the unreliable first-person narration and very heavy use of ambiguity and slow payoffs. Not my cuppa, so I filtered it.
>>22783088It's also part of why the threads are alive, even if it isn't all of the threads. But yeah, it coalesces here and in a couple other spots. It's surprising how popular it is, even quietly, actually.
>>2278311099% of the pack street fanart i've seen has been from /ztg/I'd be surprised to find any other community that posts about it
>>22783156I think thats partly deceptive.A lot of pack content you see is REposted here.So it seems like it all comes from here, but there are some creators who are separated from ztg but whose stuff gets put here down the line
>>22782962>>22782986In my case the mental distress came first, projecting my feelings onto fictional characters is a coping mechanism.
>>22783195The vast majority of Pack Street fan content still shows up here.And on a regular basis to boot.
>>22776071>ばちこーん*winks dramatically* [or *winks like a boss* if you know what I mean]>>22776076>あまっちゃたBlank space>ふーーーーん*smuuuuug* >>22776151Artist's self-representation, probably: Gosh foxo, ur so cute foxo>話わかってない かわいい……Look at his what's-going-on-here face, awwww...>は?Nick: WHAT?
>>22783195I realize that, but artists with pretty explicit ties to ztg are the ones posting the majority of the contentI've seen a handful of artists from tumblr and twitter but they are a very small group
>>22782956Was that the raccoon lesbian girl who Hugh tried to date from Shortie Squad?
>>22783357Nah, that's Kameela from the comics, it was a request for her in punk clothes.
>>22782347It's the only good thing to come off a literal furfaggot thread, and so far it is breaking the furry fiction streak of turning a normal, grounded drama with edge, dumb twists, power levels and/or excessive sexuality focus that makes the work an analysis of the author psyche.
>>22783088>mostly due to the unreliable first-person narrationRemmy's not an unreliable narrator. His internal monologue is heavily biased when it comes to interpretation but it's not like he's telling you things that didn't happen.
>>22783241Thank you Mr. Mouse.(Or Ms. Mouse, i don't know.)
Alright, fine. I wasn't going to say anything but people have been fonning over it so hard someone has to say it.Weaver is a bad writer. Roomates is written good because Weaver had someone else write all the dialog for him. Look at Late Stake or The Slodhed Fox for how his dialog normally is. Forced, doesn't make sense, etc But Pack Street is written good. So what does that tell you?Weaver has Otterly helping him write Pack Street, namely all the dialog. But he doesn't give him credit. This isn't a conspiracy theory, Weaver admitted it on his server but has sense deleted the post. I think Otterly may also have been Pokemaniac (author who "co-wrote" but actually full-wrote Roomates) and they just moved on to a new work to help make Weaver's writing look like not shit.Weaver has made it clear he can't write and he shouldn't be getting all the credit for what is so clearly not even his own work.
>>22783156>>22783243>posts to hereYeah, I think it's more a case of, those that have read it, from whatever other fandoms they frequent, find ztg the more central place to interact with like minded people.Roommates is equally as good, but has had it's own thread to post in, although I know a lot of those here have crossed between the two.ZNN <https://www.zootopianewsnetwork.com/> is a bit SFW and kid friendly, but also very WildeHopps centric, so you don't see a lot of reference there.(has a look and sees a Borba update, WTF?)
>>22783416>>22783088Remmy as a flawed narrator is one of my favourite parts, it helps you look back on everything you thought you knew and re-evaluating it.Remmy jumps to conclusions (like with the pillow), he makes lots of false judgements (people's species, ages, body types, character), etc.That's really hard to do well and I love it when it is.
>>22781860such a cute style
>>22783513
>>22783513fawning*
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>>22783565Why are you writing your comments in the filename? Do you like making things slightly inconvenient?
>>22783513Are you saying we haven't gotten a new chapter yet because Otterly died?RIP otter waifu
>>22783513When are Jamie and Cameron gonna cameo?
>>22783666After Pandora wakes up and creates her chain of stores
>>22783666They drown when their ship sinks just off Zootopia's coast.
>>22783513/5N@F/ moved back to /vg/, in case you're lost
>>22783696They should've known better than to call it the Titanic 2...
>>22782347look through the threadssee how much zootopia things that are not reposts or from off ztg are postedsee how much new zootopia content there issee how many discussions over derivative content there isnow please tell me what content this thread has but pack streetwe had to homeward bound, dusk, jid, wutb and other shit back thenwe had buggs, shortysquad, hyenahurst, sorbune and tjh back theneither ended or discontinuedonly ps remained updating and keeping people interestedand since its author can tell people off because they are on the thread, people are way more scared of shitting on it like they do to anything from da and tumblr, like broken mask and savage companylike when people shit on what does the fox says or down the rabbit hole because its not intellectually challenging like weaver works and penis and vaginas in porn is gross
>>22783734Have sex
>>22783734>and since its author can tell people off because they are on the thread, people are way more scared of shitting on itSo, it's basically all just one big power play then?
>>22783734>people are way more scared of shitting on itI am not afraid to criticize pack street at allWeaver rarely comments on people that criticize it anyway
>>22783734Nigga, nobody here's scared of that bitch weaver we just don't have much of a reason to shit on pack street because it's genuinely a good story
>>22783734He doesn't have to defend anything; his fans will do it for himad nauseamwithout a hint of self awarenessto the detriment of a lot of other work, frankly. Writers these days post something new and they get 1-2 replies, and one of them is Comic because he loves engaging with everyone.Meanwhile people are still talking about wolf musk, possibly unironically, and going in circles about no, my interpretation is more valid in the face of this constantly ambiguous and slow-developing story
>>22783897>to the detriment of a lot of other work, frankly. Writers these days post something new and they get 1-2 replies, and one of them is Comic because he loves engaging with everyone.It always comes back to this.Thing X didn't get as many (You)s as you think it deserved? Must be because of Thing Y, which you're confident got more (You)s than it deserved!You are the true arbiter of what does and doesn't deserve attention! Everyone needs to give everything exactly as much praise and feedback as you decide they do!
>>22783897>Meanwhile people are still talking about wolf musk, possibly unironically, and going in circles about no, my interpretation is more valid in the face of this constantly ambiguous and slow-developing storyAlright, I like pack street, but that last part was hilarious and on point
>>22783734>>>22783603 You've got it all arse up, we call ourselves ZTG because we explore ALL the things and variations that could occur in the Zootopia universe.If anything ZNN is more the fraud because it adopts the whole movie, then concentrates primarily on WildeHopps.As for content here, yes it's supposed to be an image board and after three years, there's only so much you can do if you specialise in Nick Judy art before it becomes totally degenerate (OK too late for that now).The other side of the coin is that when artist DO do art for other fictions, the self proclaimed purists bitch about polluting their WildeHopps site!WTF?
>>22783957>projecting
>>22784034>Doesnt know what projecting means
>>22784067>makes anyone with a single criticism about popular thing out to be some evil shitposter hellbent on destroying some nobody furry general on a hidden board>"y-you don't know what projecting is!!!"
>>22784015Have sex
>>22784067>>22784124Just fuck already
>>22784124https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
I want to see all the yeens kiss.
>>22784333only if ozzy is kissing wolter
>>22784124You literally said you're mad that thing X isn't getting as much attention as thing Y and it's thing Y's fault. The only implicit part was you thinking you knew better and it was pretty well spelled out by your post.
>>22784333trans ozzy and cis ozzy kissing!
>>22784360mtf ozzy x ftm ozzy
>>22784357not the same guy dumbass.also that's not even close to what the other anon was saying.
>>22784355No, Wolter is for his sister only. And sometimes Remmy.
>>22784360>>22784384degenerates like you only demonstrate why Pack Street will never get another update
>>22784460Weaver's down with selfcest thoughHe does it all the time
>>22784389One day Wolter's gonna get his paw down Martina's pants.That's going to be interesting.
>>22784466it's a lot harder when one of them constantly needs a dilator
>>22784495Hey now it's only kissing anon
>>22784518and...?
>>22783897musk shitposter anon is my spirit animal, he embodies the worst of pets of furries general and hmofa while blogposting like hes fresh off haha, id think hed furry rp more as a possum rather than a stoat
>>22784387It sure is
>>22784638>"PS fans are quick to absolve the author of criticism">"N-No, Y-You're just jealous because it's popular!"Like clockwork
Trans rights, baby!
>>22784750>to the detriment of a lot of other work>Writers these days post something new and they get 1-2 replies, and one of them is Comic because he loves engaging with everyone.literally blaming PS for others not getting enough attention
>>22785188More like blaming rabid fans who refuse to discuss literally anything else.
>>22785215>Pack Street is why other fics don't get more attention!>What??? How dare you accuse me of saying Pack Street is why other fics don't get more attention! Stop projecting!!!
>>22785265Noone ever said Pack Street directly drove away any other fan discussion.It's the fans who obsess over it to the point of depression over none of the characters being real.It was always the fans.
>>22785215>people who like thing discuss thing they likeshockingalso what do you want people to discuss? nobody else here produces anything good or consistent. oh no yes i definitely want to talk about percy and caitlin relationship or how cameron is actually a possible clinical case, o fucking wait they are shallow and one dimensional for your usual sol or shippy stuff. BOY i sure want to talk about those characters.
>>22785323>"to the detriment of a lot of other work, frankly. Writers these days post something new and they get 1-2 replies, and one of them is Comic because he loves engaging with everyone."Says that right here: >>22783897>Noone ever said Pack Street directly drove away any other fan discussion.'Cept u did
>>22785339This is nothing about what "I want."This is about anons deliberately closing themselves off from the rest of the fan ecosystem to jerk off some unoriginal, overhyped furry fanfic.>>22785378Not me, my guy.Besides, what he was talking about was that the constant deflecting of criticism by THE FANS have gotten so bad that nobody wants to so much as give attention to anything else anymore.Do you fuck seriously have zero self-awareness?
>>22785472Do you just throw that "zero self-awareness" jab at everyone who debates you for anything?
>>22785472subjective and more importantly nothing of value was lost considering most that come of this thread is porn anyways, which we have from meesh to milesdf to make which are actual artists who draw well and not hobbyists trying to get some following on a general
>>22785497>deflecting criticismLiterally what I was just fucking talking about
nigger
>>22785720AH FUCK NO THE STOCKS ARE GOING DOWN WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE HWAT THE FUCK WHAT THE UFCKTHE ADVERTISERS ARE FUCKING ON FIRE WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE
>>22785751fucking lost
>>22785472>Not me, my guy.Right, I forgot, you're just the guy who showed up to argue exactly what the other guy did and fervently defend him, right after he mysteriously dropped out of the argument!
>>22785807But he's right
>>22785550Dude an anon earlier gave you a reason why nobody talks about anything other than pack street, and it's because everything else is one dimensional and inconsistent whereas Pack Street is longer and has great character interactions. You don't like it? Fine. But don't act like it's the threads fault for talking about something they enjoy. It makes you sound like the Grinch
>>22785848Which Grinch? There's like four different versions now.
>>22785848>and it's because everything else is one dimensional and inconsistent>don't act like it's the threads faultYou're literally acting like it's the thread's fault.
>>22785872Actually, he's justifying why people don't discuss your bland stories. You're like the guy who get chewed on for your writing then start some rant of your work being too highbrow.
>>22785872Okay. Let me rephrase. It's not the threads fault that people gravitate towards a certain thing. But it's the threads fault for not adding more things into the mix and making it as interesting as said thing.
>>22786004What stories?>>22786030So Otterly, Smug, Toga, or any other worthwhile writer suddenly doesn't exist now?
None of you are even arguing for the same points you started with, this whole conversation is embarrassing.
>>22786051>Otterly, Smug, Togathey're all shit
