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Why is Zootopia considered the "furry movie?"All the furries, including Onta, are claiming this as a revolution in the fandom, but all the characters are literally just animals standing on their hind-legs.If they were anthros, all the animals would have humanoid bodies, titties and roughly be around human size. Like Robin Hood. These are just regular animals with opposable thumbs.
>>1958276The hen clearly had cleavage in that movie, stop being a shit.
>>1956155Furries on 4chan != all furries everywhere.Most furries are chill and don't rub their fetish in everybody's face like here.
>>1958334Chicken breasts... Goddammit...
>>1956155You do not know what an anthro is. Why do people not know what an anthro is, it's like the easiest definition ever.
>>1958345That's hilarious, and wrong.
>>19583454chan has a million times more weebshit fetishes than furry shit. In case you don't know, /trash/ the bottom of the barrel of 4chan is the only place that allows furry.
>>1965137There's the other place
>>1958345>>1965068Yes and no.I consider 4chan's furries to be a middleground. Other furries I've met in public are rather reserved, only bringing it up if they know for sure you mentioned it.However, you also have the crowd that is just plain crazy. Crazy to the point where that is literally all they can talk about, the lord help you if they see you can draw a wolf or something.The biggest issue is that the insane people are a LOUD minority, and the general public can only think of them when the word "furry" is mentioned, and it's easy to see why.
>>1956155Furries covers everything from feral (4-legged talking animals) to cartoonish to humanoid to human with cat-ears.In fact, if you consider the amount of goo-girls, latex-creatures, reptiles and assorted other animals and inanimate objects that populate the fandom, we could easily just rename it to the "Rule 34 fandom".
>>1960993Because the term covers an absolute fuckton of things when you look at it strictly from its "base" definition.Way more than what people usually want to imply with it.
>>1956155there is actually a hell of a lot more work in anthropomorphizing Zootopia's characters than what most fandom artists do, which can be simplified to slapping animal features (a muzzle, digitigrade legs, ears, etc) onto a base with human anatomy. There's actual consideration taken for how the world around them works, as well.
>>1956155Just furfags being furfags. Anthropomorphic stuff isn't new. In fact, it's incredibly old. I guess they're hoping for new "recruits".
>>1956155>high budget>Mainstream film featuring anthro characters>some fairly obvious sexual implications (Gazelle and her Bara Tiger dancers, Nudist resort.)>Has an advertising video that explains what anthropomorphic isIt's not hard to figure out.
>>1956155It's animal characters done right, for once. Standing up right, but without complete human anatomy.Stylized, but not deformed beyond recognition.Traits of animal species are present, instead of simply being furry humans.Yes, I consider it a revolution in a way.
>>1972356Not new recruits, they will get that regardless. They are hoping for normalization of furries.
>>1972539On top of all that, Disney encouraged furries to viral market the movie by posting pictures of themselves at the movies in fursuits. I'm okay with that.
>>1972724Then they're not really getting it. Anthro stuff is pretty much a human thing. That's like Ratbat hoping Cars will make her fetish publicly acknowledged.When you get down to it, furries are just people who feel especially strongly about something that's otherwise a fairly regular aspect of human expression. Honestly, the existence of the furry community seems to be putting a bit of a brake on sexy depictions of anthro animals. Before the furry fandom became a thing, it wasn't at all unusual to put a sexy cat in a cartoon.Pic related. She looks like something you'd find on e621.
>>1956155Same way family films are considered kids movies
i remember some old flash quiz made by shawn keller.. there was a question "what was the first furry movie?"does anyone remember it?
>>1956155>all the characters are literally just animals standing on their hind-legs.you mean the same way they have shoulders?
>>1982506I'd guess "Animal Olympics" by Yasuji Murata (1928)There is definitely some room for debate there, though.
Yeah this is why I want to fuck them they look like real animals. Somits not furry its straight up zoophilia.
>>1982506"furry movies" dont exist, the true question is... what was the first anthropomorphic movie?If I remember well it was a very old vintage black white stop motion movie, a fable with antrho animals... i think was a French movie, i dont remember the name but im talking about something maybe even before ww1
>>1956155the Lion King, Alpha and Omega, Balto... is also "furry" if they are animals and have some degree of "humanisation" they are inside of the radar of the furries, even a lioness in a cartoon,l if she acts like she have a human brain (she can't talk but have a intelligent behaviour, like a speckless human being and a expresive face and body language)
>>1956155Because furries are still under the delusion that they're an oppressed minority when in fact everyone stopped giving a shit a long time ago, so when something mainstream crops up that fits into their comfort zone they latch onto it and try to put it on some kind of pedestal because it ostensibly represents them, when in fact nobody gives a god damn fuck.
It's not a furry movie. There has been thousands of movies with walking animals in them. We don't call the loony toons a furry fuckfest do we? It is just that 12 year old wana-be furries think everything animal is JUST FOR THEM AND NOT ANYTHING ELSE!
>>1989108Best comment of the thread.
>>1956155>Onta.>Speaking for the fandom.
Are there any reptiles in that movie?
>>2008431No. Reptiles are a disgusting lesser species. Same with birds.
>>1956155Anyone got the "We all want to fuck that rabbit" pic from /v/?
Do you suppose Judy masturbates a lot? Her species has a naturally strong sex drive and as far as we can tell she's a virgin.
>Ralph Movie ="Gaymers" fandom>Big Hero 6 = Otaku fandom>ToyStory/Nemo/MonsterINC/Other movies = Oldfags of Pixar classics>Furtopia/Zootopia = Furdom/Fandom>DC and LucasFilms = Others famdon of SciFi/SuperHerosDisney ITS SO EVIL!
>>1989108But its a LolaBunny-BaitTier this Movie...
>>1956155I don't give a fuck if people call it a furry movie or not. Judy a cute, and there's some nice porn.The definition of anthropomorphism isn't that complicated though..."an·thro·po·mor·phism (ăn′thrə-pə-môr′fĭz′əm)n.Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena."So there you go. They're anthro.
>>1956155Because they want to capitalize on it's success. MLP is not longer the hot shit you can rake in hundreds of thousands furshekels with.
I want to ____ that fox's ______.
>>2026460I want to change that fox's dirty diaper.
>>2026576Piss off to the containment thread.
Well. Guess Bats vs Supes isn't gonna beat Zootopia in the review department, that's for sure.
>>2026460I want to lick that fox's paws.
Wrote a short bit of Nick/Judy smut.http://pastebin.com/qRUZwxZA
While we're posting fics...https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11830037/1/The-War-Path
>>1973265The oldest piece of uncontested figurative art, at 40,000 years old, is an anthro lion.You're right, this stuff is embedded deep. But what I really hear floated is not the "mainstreaming" of furry, but rather something to produce a second or third wave of furry fandom. Stuff that has the same effect that Gadget, Princess Sally, or Cleo had on 90's kids. Because as you said, attractive animal people have dried up somewhat.>Before the furry fandom became a thing, it wasn't at all unusual to put a sexy cat in a cartoon.Eh, the furry fandom predates the drop in sexy cartoon animalfolk, and I suspect that plenty of animators and artists got in on that, just like it is today. The problem is that the general public got wind of it, too.
>>2030696I get the feeling this was somewhat spawned by that discussion about Judy being in heat and Nick basically tying her up with various sex toys working on her to help, and I said that it wouldn't work because she needed Nick for it, cause it just wouldn't work if she didn't feel loved.Is this that thing?
>>2032004Nope, it was actually spurred by an anon jokingly suggesting "Nick getting a sprained pelvis, Judy coming up with all sorts of elaborate ways to boink despite this".Didn't end up going all the way through with that idea because I'm a talentless hack who can't think of more than 3 or 4 ways of boinking, without involving all sorts of freaky fetishes.
>>2032033If you want a tip or two, stop having them say "penetrative" and penetration. It's not particularly cute, or sexy, or how anyone would expect someone to speak.>You’re in no condition for any kind of penetrative sex, Nick.should just be "You're in no condition for sex" for example. What you wrote is far too clinical, formal, impersonal.
>>2032033oh and also a picture for you.
>>2032120Saying that Nick's "in no condition for sex" would have been a bit awkward considering the rest of the story.It did feel a bit awkward, yes, but I couldn't really think of any other way to say it. It did come off as something Judy would say, kinda. The way she was so knowledgeable about codes and regulations and such; I wouldn't doubt she'd use big words from time to time.
>>2032235>would have been a bit awkward considering the rest of the story.Not with what comes after, Nick reminding Judy that there's more than just the knot. It would show that Judy was just thinking of the one bit, forgetting all the foreplay and everything else that one can do to get off.
>>2034971For ages now I've just been imagining Nick coming with Judy to visit Bunnyburrow, for whatever reason, work, or vacation, or whatever, and it turns out that all of Judy's sisters just become infatuated with Nick, all of them wanting to date him and stuff and it makes Judy supremely jealous.Maybe it's part of my stupid love of harem anime.
>>2037501Do you mean the sisters to be about her age or children? Because I imagined this with children and it was cute. Otherwise yes, bunny harem sounds sexy. Either way, I like the idea of Nick being covered in them.
>>2037632It would be all of Judy's unmarried sisters. Older, her age, and younger.Obviously only the older ones would be wanting to get with Nick, but the little ones, like that cute little sister that runs after the train at the start of the movie, would be all like "Judy, I'm gonna marry your boyfriend!"
>>2037632A swarm of rabbits can skeletonize a human in less than 10 seconds.
>>2030696found a picture for your story.
>>2038534Close; Judy was sitting atop Nick's belly/chest in the story.Still delicious, though.
i fap to furry porn but i honestly fucking hate everyone involved in the furry communitynot only do they always latch on to the latest new hot thing, filling up e621 with the same pics for MONTHS, they see things like zootopia as a sign that furries are indeed a lifestyle and are accepted by everybodyi wish 4chan had a strong stance on kicking furries out again
>>2041889Okay, that was random.
>>2041999well its related to zootopia and /trash/ in general
>>2004727That's super hot even without any visible genitalia
>>2037671>like that cute little sister that runs after the train at the start of the movie, would be all like "Judy, I'm gonna marry your boyfriend!"Aww that's cute. Especially if you consider that this innocnet sentence would make Judy realize what she actually feels for Nick.
>>2041889This is true for ANY fans or groups, though. Not just furries.
>>1972683design was fantastic, yes yes
>>2037501Considiering how fox-ist her father and mother are, I highly doubt they'd be into him. They've been influenced more heavily than Judy due to proximity.She'd be able to influence some of them into not being as prejudiced and some might even be interested, but I think the reaction would largely be negative.
>>2041889People latch onto what sparks their imaginations at the time and bounce off each other for months afterwards until the creative spark for that particular bit runs out. It has nothing to do with furries and has everything to do with humans.
>>2041889You and me man, let's bring that furry hate back.What was that train picture people would always post? 40fph or something on that line?
>>1956155Because it's not some alternate fantasy world where foxes live in huts in the middle of the forest going on quests and adventures. It's modern. Most of the shit in that movie tech-wise you can find here on Earth. Along with that, it's also more socially and societally relatable. Jobs, apartments, other people. One of the big things talked about with the furry fandom, is that what would life be like if everyone was an anthro animal instead of human, and Zootopia does a very good depiction of it.
>>2052397if thats something they think so much about then why are they so shitty at making that shit?
>>2049628Eh, her parents do business and get along with the same Fox that slashed Judy's face when she was a child and was the cause for Stu going full overdrive with the Fox-Away stuff.
>>1956155There are furries with semi-feral characters, which largely look like animals that have stood up on their hind legs. Anthromorphization isn't a black or white thing, there are different varieties.
>>2052496Because the art is mostly porn and nobody knows how to animate.Clean furry fan-fiction has the good shit, if you can find something that wasn't written by a 12-year-old.
So why is the assistant mayor so tiny? The other ones that look to be of her people are a lot bigger.Also the lack of roles given to non-mammalian animals is problematic.
>>1956155because it's a movie about animals living in a city together like humans. now shut the fuck up and get fapping
>>2054982what roles would you want them to have?they said that, as of right now, only mammals evolved.So fish swim and are eaten.
>>2055279What about Dolphin's and Whales I wonder?
>>2055693That's a good point. Maybe they think of them like we do of mermaids, unicorns or fairies.
>>2054982I think it's two different kinds of sheep. The larger ones have these freaky eyes while Bellwether and that sheep from the beginning have normals eyes and are tiny.
>>2055712I dunno. I can see Dolphins as some weird surfer dudes at the sea part of the city.
>>2055693they're mammals, they evolved.theres some art, i think it's fanart, that shows Nick and Judy speaking to a Narwhal that's in a business suit. Clearly he was a Whale Street Executive
>>2055721It's because they were rams, she was a sheep.
>>2056086They're both sheep. the male term for a sheep is ram.
Anthrpomorphic animals do not equal furry.They've been around for a really long time. Liek centuries. They've been in animation since the birth of cartoons with characters like Felix the Cat, Mickey Mouse and even the original Betty Bop(She was drawn as a dog originally).Furries is just some miniscule fandom that popped up in the 80s as some off-shot of SciFi conventions. They came to light thanks to the Internet legions finding someone to h8. But yeah, unless the work is original characters and art from said community it is not furry. That's just nonsense. I bet my bottom dollar furries have contributed nothing to the animation industry, saying shit like funny animal media is furry, which is pretty popular with the general public, is just enabling these lads to think they've some legitimacy when it comes to the long and proud animation history.It would be, for example, saying the Last Unicorn is a brony movie or anime is only a otaku's medium which is totally false.
>humans genetically modify animals to speak and think on their level>goes extinct after apocalyptic event of some type, most likely because of self annihilation>animals create civilization after a million years pass
>>2062274you got yourself caught now what's the next big step of your yiff plan?