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/ZTG/ - Zootopia General: Suffering Edition

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>>18689709
Gonna ask again, since nobody anwered my question last time:
Does anybody know why Zistopia died?
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>>18689709
why can't he make the grilled cheese himself?
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>>18689851
Because the writer/artist had a mental breakdown and quit it?
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>mfw I just learned grilled cheese is actually not grilled cheese but a sandwich
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>>18689957
Its the thought of the grilled cheese that counts
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>>18689957
A cheese sandwich that is grilled, yes.
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>>18689957
why would you grill cheese by itself
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B U N S
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>>18689937
http://nicolaswildes.tumblr.com/post/154969734450/zistopia-psa
According to this, they only intended for a temporary hiatus, and they still kept posting OC a while after the PSA.
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>>18689851
>Does anybody know why Zistopia died?
My understanding is that it ran into all of the same problems that the original Zootopia pitch is was developed from had.
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>>18690156
*it was developed from

I actually caught that typo, but apparently I made it again when I went to correct it.
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>>18690089
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>>18690186
I can feel my arteries clogging already
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>>18689851
Artist probably lost interest, it had been going since the fandom started gaining traction and IIRC the artist was getting into the whole mindset of not wanting to be around (getting into dumb fights weekly, having little focus, ranting blogs). Don't quote me on this but it was also around the time she broke her stylus or something?
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>>18690217
cringe if not ironic
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>>18690089
>Not knowing the goodness of grilled cheese
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>>18690089
Bu-but sir, it's a thing.
https://youtu.be/s7mrvv95cBY
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>>18690220
IIRC most of it was hand-drawn, except the animations
>>18690156
What specifically? I remember that making a convincing "happy ending" was an issue in the original.
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>>18690402
she started doing commission work to pay for it, didnt she?
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>>18689851
Author posted that one of the artists who was doing a chapter couldn’t complete it for some reason, and rather than having someone else do that chapter, the comic was going on indefinite hiatus.

Apparently the comic has a planned ending as corroborated by others who worked on the project.

Don’t know what the issue is now, lack of interest most likely.
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>>18690639
On her tumblr, she did link to commissions for somebody called "thewittyarsonist". I guess that's her main account?
>>18690680
>Apparently the comic has a planned ending as corroborated by others who worked on the project
So close...
>Don’t know what the issue is now, lack of interest most likely.
I take it nobody's mentioned it semi-recently?
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>>18690898
her zoot fandom name is nicolaswilde, twa is her main account
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Her main account seems to be Steven universe focused
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>>18690898
I’m not sure if she was given flack for it on other platforms, but one day (way after the hiatus started) she wrote on tumblr that her story was better than the original Zootopia. It didn’t sit well here on the chan, and since then she’s been rather disliked by some users here. No idea of her standing on reddit or tumblr.

She disliked anyone asking about when the comic was going to update, which may have also pushed the indefinite hiatus. She still appeared to want the recognition however, I remember a tumblr post where she was musing and said she would “probably” do a ZNN interview if they asked her.
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>>18689957
Don't worry, I had that confusion too.

I personally like fried cheese anyway
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>>18689957
Reminds me of the time I found out British “cheese on toast” wasn’t the same as American grilled cheese sandwich
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>>18691062
honestly what she said kinda got taken out of context, she was getting shat on by people and she fired back by shitting on the original thing (furry mess meme), yet what she wanted was to say that zootopia movie was not the only story worth telling (i mean the little fursona cringe response was absolutely pathetic but on the context is kinda justifiable)
i think what made her disliked here was the sum of situation, shit like the bunnyburrow guest comic, arguing with anyone, heavy politics posting, bunny noses, snob attitude and THEN the furry mess
shes like one of those people you get assigned to work with or recommended and the person says "they are nice, but kinda hard to get along if you dont know them"
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>>18691602
I'm out of the loop, could you please spoonfeed me?
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>>18691738
thats p much it if you mean better than original zoot stuff
she got anons shitting on zis direction/tone/development, she got mad
one comment was something like that "story is bad cuz old concept was canned, original zoot is only zoot"
she proceeded to make a two panels post where in the first her fursona said the movie was just a furry mess of an iphone commercial and the second one she said that just because it was the final version doesnt mean it was the only version worth telling
some people got mad, though i do remember tumblr going yas queen slay kind of tumblr reaction so i dont think she stopped because of that post
thats it i think
im pretty sure its the same thing as currently aoirem is going through where tons of posts are sucking their dick and only a minority are actually shitting on them
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Cute custom casepile

76.91.36.250

Download Drawpile, join this room, make a layer, create the art

and get in your suggestions for the next one when this one is done

http://freesuggestionbox.com/pub/hlvovfp
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Hi anons. Has anyone been lewded lately?
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>>18692561
Mostly Terry, and he even lewded himself.
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>>18692561
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>>18692561
Rob drew his fursona naked last thread.
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>>18692708
Do you have the boxers version?
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>>18692804
I don't remember there being an alt, but I do have this.
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>>18692795
missed that, can anyone post it?
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>>18692795
>>18692869
Enjoy
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>>18692446
I want vampire glasses bun to bite me.
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>>18692892
I am in a happily committed relationship, but it does not hurt to look.
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>>18693031
>committed relationship
I'm not sure that's what I'd call this...
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>>18693010
Isn't vampire glasses bun just vampire bun with glasses?
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>>18693031
The best tubes, like boner, will share. Do more than just look.
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>>18693137
Aren't you just me in a different location? Let's get closer. I wanna masturbate.
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>>18692410
Thanks for the info.
Did she delete the original tumblr post? I don't remember seeing it on her tumblr.
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>>18689957
Are you retarded anon
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>>18693137
Yes, in the same what that a grilled cheese sandwich is a cheese sandwich that is grilled.
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>>18693223
Maybe, Im not really able to skim through all her rebloggings for it. Unfortunately
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>>18693130
how does tube taste, Mr. Lewd squirrel?
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>>18693130
It's called bondage, Terry like it very much
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Lest we forget this too
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As I gaze upon these lewds, I feel the urge to lurk here again. But the freedom my escape has granted me is too good.
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>>18692860
Thanks.
Looking for it but haven't had luck. I vaguely rememer it was a solo pic of Terry modeling underwear but not sure if it was either boxers or briefs.
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What is this place of liars and libels and prohibited stuff
>>18693806
You can't leave, I won't allow you
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>>18693817
I looked though my pics and couldn't find it.
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>>18693880
>You can't leave, I won't allow you

ooh, a taste of the forbidden goose juice in trade for eternally stuck in this place? mmmm
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>>18693806
Have you found a promised land beyond these walls? Legends speak of it.
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>>18693880
You can't stop me. Can't kiss me if you aren't even able to touch me. I've touched you, though. In the past.
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A few little doodles

>>18693880
Welcome to hell, tuber. You can't leave either.
Enjoy the eternal lewding.
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>>18693995
Nice doodles ACA (?)
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>>18692410
>iphone mess

Wow was she the one who made up the furry iPhone commercial phrase?
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>>18693959
Yes.
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>>18693995
These doodles are nice!
Thank you very much!
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>>18693995
>Enjoy the eternal lewding.
What about you?
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>>18693817
You are lucky I am more willing to help than report you to the ZPD for asking such things
It is such an old pic

>>18693918
>>18693989
>>18693995
>Worry
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>>18691602
Tbh I think what she said got taken out of context too. Same with AoiRem. With AoiRem there was all that flack about them claiming Jack was their own original character, but i don’t think that’s how it meant to come across since English isn’t their strong suit.

Zistopia has its good moments, though I was never a fan of the BlackJack story (but the art is stellar). I think most of the artists who create for the fandom are doing it a service. It’s definitely not a project I could take on and run with so props to them for putting themselves out there.
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>>18694096
Take me with you anon, I don't know where the exit is.
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not bad
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>>18693806
I was free for a few months too and now I’m back ;( relapsing hard
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>>18694063
Yes, at least I don't remember anyone using it previous. I do remember complaints over excessive product placement but the first time I've read hot furry mess was from her.
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>>18694171
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>>18694221
That's a pretty good animation
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>>18694269
God I keep wondering if this is legit or ironic.
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>>18694171
>but i don’t think that’s how it meant to come across since English isn’t their strong suit
No, it's exactly as they said.
When they saw that people weren't buying their bullshit they tried to make Jack an OC by removing his stripes.
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>>18694269
I wish she hadn’t gotten all preachy and throwing her political beliefs in your face. She and the comic definitely had their clever moments
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>>18694221
seeing this please happy fox gives me life
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>>18694280
Furry logic:
Drawing porn of major copyrighted characters without the creator's permission? A OK
Drawing porn of an OC without the creator's permission? You monster, you should be shot!
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>>18694221
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>>18694318
Oh, too bad ;( welp I tried to throw them a bone and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Tbh from their writing I get this feeling they’re kinda young.
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>>18694363
She was a freshman in collage, so yeah.
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>>18694180
The exit keeps changing, but we'll find it again.
>>18694230
Come with us. You can be free again.
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>>18694009
>>18694101
Thanks!
Also yeah, is me. I'm trying a bit of speed drawing and my art's evidently taking a bit of a quality hit
>assuming my art has quality to begin with

>>18694132
Obviously I'm the sole exception to this rule.

>>18694221
A fox who actually got his grilled cheese?
A rare sight indeed.
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>>18694392
>Obviously I'm the sole exception to this rule.
How cocky, ACA. If I dont see lewds of you soon, I'll spend 1000 hours in paint to lewd you myself.
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>>18694392
They were nice doodles, the quality was fine!
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>>18694392
>Obviously I'm the sole exception to this rule


Post your fucking Zoosona coward.
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>>18693031
Why not both?
Squirrels have more than one hole.
Or there is always frotting.
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>>18694392
>Obviously I'm the sole exception to this rule.
Don't tempt me, thicc boy.
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>>18694382
C..can you hold my hand?
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>>18694571
Show me their fucking zoosona coward.
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>>18691062

> My work has a better story than Zootopia
> Out of context

I know nothing about Zistopia , but really if that's the quote no matter the context the response should be 'well it fucking better be'.

Zootopia is an awesome movie - glad we all agree - but it's rollercoaster story is not what sells it.

What even is the story? "Bunny cop goes to city, gets shitty city job Meets shifty city fox. Funny bunny and big cox fox go on whacky adventure to defeat racism. Mayor's assistant actually to blame! Floppy coppy gets the crooked canid to change his ways! Also, organized crime, death threats and the mafia = awesome."

The story is there to do nothing more than provide an excuse to deliver the awesome stuff (and the animal puns), it's a framework and sort of falls over if you lean on it.

If Zistopia successfully pulled off the original story's... story, *of course* it'd have a better story. It wouldn't have a lot of what else made Zootopia awesome, but certainly in story and world building it'd have it beat.

TL;DR - The best part of Nick 'The Red Rocket' Wilde is not his skeleton, but he still needs it to deliver everything that makes him Nick 'The Sexual Dynamo, The Red Rocket, The Point & Shooty Rooty Tooty' Wilde. That's Zootopia's story. Kinda low standards for beating it.

TL;DR - The best part of Zootopia

<-------
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>it only took two years to /ztg/ to realize zootopia was garbage
glad were on the same page now
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>>18694718
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>>18694696
The big issue is, the original plot to Zistopia had a terrible premise for a kids movie. Why would anyone wanna root for Nick/Judy to save the city if it was full of terrible people.

The thing is, they had to change it to be able to family friendly for people, and they couldn't figure out a good ending for it.

So as a kids movie, it's okay but it has it's issues. Zistopias issue is it pushes the dark stuff a BIT too far, hence going into shit like the Collar Zombies in there. And let's be real, how would YOU end Zistopia?

I enjoyed Zootopia as a kids movie but I like the world they introduced more than the stuff we saw in the movie [trust me, the art book really shows more on the world that was/could have been].

>>18694718
Man I've literally only seen it twice and I have a goddam webcomic of it.
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>>18694761

Oh definitely. There's no way in hell they could have made Zistopia as a movie, and I don't think it'd have been an ounce as popular even with us subhuman /trash/ dwellers.

It's just that something can have a mediocre story and still be good in other ways.

Crysis 1 - it's story is borderline nonsensical. It's still one of the best games ever made. Who needs story when you can knock out north koreans by throwing crabs at them?
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>>18694789
Oh yeah like, the premise of Proto-zoot has a LOT of good parts to it but holy shit it is something that falls into the hellish third act trap.

And unlike a game, you don't play Zootopia [THEY NEVER MADE A GAME WTF DISNEY]
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>>18694696
>it was good but it was furry mess xD
>small mouse making a parody of godfather and cop story is the focus of the movie and its le bad, what if we made yet another prince of egypt and other overly heavy handed movies xD

>On a movie that main theme was how everyone is fucking affected by bias despite what they want or say

I know it's bait but holy fuck, it's a well done bait.
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>>18694507
I'll do it for him
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>>18694841
More and more I think that Zootopia lawsuit really hindered Disney from releasing more merch or doing anything Zoot related like a video game.

Now that the lawsuits pretty much wiped out Disney released that kids book and there’s new merch and put Zoot in that app game
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>>18694472
Thanks again!

>>18694889
That pic's like two years old at this point, why that one
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>>18694761
Part of me likes the idea of the darker previous setting of Zootopia (minus the collars of course), but I wonder how they would still do it. Along with removing the collars, they changed the point of view from Nick to Judy because we needed someone to root for and to care about the city. Could they have kept some of the darker tone while having Judy as the main protagonist?
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>>18694889
he's prepped and ready to be lewded
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>>18694961
>>18694961
>That pic's like two years old at this point, why that one
You haven't drawn his whole body many times
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>>18694944
When it comes to the merch, i have no idea but when it comes to video games I have a hunch.

Around the time of Zootopia and other movies [pixar also] came out Disney Infinity was a big thing. So things like Zootopia or other movies were simply just made to be in those games.

We haven't really gotten any Disney games [minus a shitty DS one for Olaf for some reason] for most of the animated movies since Wreck it Ralph. [Which was GARBAGE.]

>>18694961
Then make a new one coward.
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>>18694718
You
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>>18694961
>>18695000
Though I did find this one by Rob
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>>18694970
The city? No. The point of the movie was "everyone is evil and twirling their moustache to beat preds up", watch the loan scene. Judy? Maybe.

The only way to make people want the city to be thrive is to make people cheer for the city, add mammals from both side on the wrong and some issue that require both to work together to make zootopia good for them to live together. I think that was the point of the whole "This is not the Zootopia I know" scene with gazelle and protesters.
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>>18695012
You’re probably right. I saw some of the Zootopia games made for Inifinity and I thought they were pretty decent with new voice acting for them. They probably put their eggs in that basket and that blew up when the whole thing was canceled
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>>18692117
"Free Judy" till it's backwards.
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>>18695071
Basically this kind of thing. Even if it made it kind of out of nowhere where people went "MAN WE HATE PREDS LOL".

>>18695072
Yeah, so we only got minor side things for Zootopia. No little adventure game or.. I dunno if Point and Clicks were more popular I could see that working.

Cameos in other games, and a hidden object game that died hard.

And a city building app? Not in the US though.
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>>18694611
K.
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I wanna see ACA putting that long tongue to use again.
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>>18695351
Calm down, Nah.
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>>18695453
Speaking of NAH, I would love to see him and Nemo having a civil conversation about Terry's lewdness.
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>>18695000
>He knew he was big down there but he never imagined SO big
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some pizzapals
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still best bun
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>>18695663
>still gayest bun

FTFY
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>>18695554
Pizzacolt really needs to keep a better eye on his fish.

>>18695067
I gotta thank Rob again for this, this is a real nice draw.
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>>18695554
Equentin should stop having fishes as pets
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>>18695663
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>>18695526
>Bigger than his
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>>18696279
Skye in a wetsuit is kind of hot. Wonder what nick in a wetsuit would look like.

Fuck I'm lapsing hard anons help me
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>>18696455
It’s too late for you my child
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>>18696455
Probably the same except with a pretty hard bulge between the crotch.

I should draw this
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>>18696455
Skye in a wet suit is hotter
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Real talk, a friend didn’t invite me to a thing some weeks back so I didn’t invite them to my thing and didn’t really want them to come though they texted asking to hang out today.

Am I jerk?
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A relic from the past
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another one
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>>18696686
Gideon sure has the wildest fantasies
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>>18696830
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>>18696830
then... SUPLEX
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>>18696830
>>18696853

My fetish but it’s awful
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>>18696721
he's a huge gay.
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>>18696680
Maybe. you don't know why he didn't invite you to the thing, maybe he likes hanging out with you, but he didn't knew whenever his other friends would be cool with you, or you would be cool with them.

I just go: "always treat others the way you would like them to treat you"

But at the same time, what's done is done, no reasons to be upset about something that already happened. If you feel like your actions broke something, look for the opportunity to fix it
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Is Weaver deaded?
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>>18696686
>A relic from the past
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>>18696455
Imagining his tip sliding out of his sheath and parting the skin tight wetsuit away from his fur?

>>18696541
Please do!
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>>18696882
This is pretty tame, all else considered
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>>18696924
he better not be, I'm donating on his patreon
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>>18694269
You forgot the followup panel!
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>>18696944
didn't he come back a day later and tried apologise that he was a pretentious asshole though?
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>>18694321
And what's worse is the worst of it came with some of the best art that comic ever had.
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>>18695071
>"everyone is evil and twirling their moustache to beat preds up"
You know, it probably would have worked if there was at least some support for predators on the prey side. The illuminati plot from zistopia would have dovetailed nicely if they were manipulating elections to keep collars in place.
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>>18696976
Sorry I meant I didn’t like the art, which is mean. Great color work, style is just not my taste
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>>18697081
Isn't this where they start pushing the fact liking prey was like a sexuality or something?
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>>18695554
Please zhan.

Let them hook up.

Please...
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>>18696506
>>18696541
>>18696674
>>18696947
You are all monsters. I dont want to burn away another year and a half in this malestrom.
Anons pls
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>>18697069
No, he came back like a MONTH later, and never apologized.

And this was after he basically shat on the thread from the Discord.

Last I remember, he spent months shitposting and arting in the Discord when the mods didn't know what was going on.

Then when they tried to have limits, he threw a shitfit and left again, seemingly for good. I got tired of the drama after that, so if he came back (again), I wasn't there to see it.
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>>18696680
Are you? What you did was kinda a jerk move, but if you didn't want them around then it was the right move. What matters is if you want to hang around them now. Also as the other anon said, keep in mind if they had a reason.

>>18697032
I actually had to seek around to find the pic, and people mostly posted the first one. It also doesn't help that the pic is just so close to embarrassing fursona mouthpieces.
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>>18694221
who draw dis
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>>18697257
how are you this bad at recognizing CCs
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>>18697069
Don't think so, he basically said he didn't care for the threads (during the "Hiro will shut down trash" scare years ago), he came back to advertise stream a bit, then dissappeared again.
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>>18697123
The Illuminati in Zis was fucking stupid.

Because it took the idea of systemic racism in society, and literally said "Hey, actually, if it weren't for these guys, everyone would be happy".
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>>18697147
Yup, the whole "WildeHopps isn't heterosexual because it's not normal to society" or something.

I mean technically she is correct but you'd argue that it's like saying interracial couples aren't heterosexual either.
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>>18697237
yes, he came back
and with a shitty OC no one liked
just to disappear again
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>>18697336
From what I hear it felt a bit forced to just make it interesting rather than being interesting.
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>>18697147
NW (IIRC) spent several text posts that she believed that if a male animal was attracted to a female of another species and vice-verse, regardless of pred-prey, then it was essentially being bent.

But the pred-prey attraction was on a level that basically had them on equal terms of outright homosexuality.

I think tumblr ate it up, but there were people here who were more skeptical of that thing.

And they, and I, hated how Gwen Skye was so sanctimonious about the whole subject because "abloo bloo bloo, you hate gays!"
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>>18697257
It's TGG

>>18697282
Armasyll literally cannot recognize even the easy ones like Weaver
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>>18697393
is true :v am artistically blind
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>>18697257
Check reply links
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>>18697123
Yeah, the illuminati works. But illuminati plots are kinda, I dunno, Bourne/007/Assassin Creed, aren't they?
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>>18697349
>just to disappear again

back to the discord

he hated being told to follow rules and keep certain topics to certain channels.
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>>18697406
How's that game going?
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>>18697391
She also made the comic to show that Judy was pansexual to everything EXCEPT straight relationship with male bunnies. The one where she another girl was shitting on her for being unable to get a date while she was having hots for a naked wolf in a balcony, then the friend said it was a wolf lady.

Kinda cringe but technically not a sin.
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>>18697406
how's the tranny party?
did HE get triggered again?
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>>18697336
I don't think the argument was about WildeHopps not being hetero, just that it's deemed unnatural.

Unnatural is a word thrown around by many even when at the gay couples, so it's somewhat relatable that both interracial and homosexual couples would find kinship in their "unnaturality"

I personally don't think that Zistopia's paralell between these things is too farfetched, but I can see how other might think that it's too much
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>>18697483
>pansexual
>has exception

What
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>>18697497
>I don't think the argument was about WildeHopps not being hetero, just that it's deemed unnatural.
You haven't read her post, have you.
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>>18697483
>pansexual

She wants to fuck her family too?
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>>18697621
gee i wonder who could be behind this fucking post
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>>18697572
Sigh... I did not, no...
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>>18697639
Pan means all. So I think all includes family, the elderly, children. Pans are really gross.
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>>18689957
Here's your solution:
https://youtu.be/RllWJUvrxEY
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>>18697483
please post link or comic
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>>18697674
Clucked
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>>18697081
Haven't read zistopia but thanks to the thread i already know what happens in it and if i had doubts about reading it with how over the top things sounded this image is what sealed the deal and made me not want to touch it.
Had eyerolls with how full of ego the story became from what i heard from you guys but this "not skye" just makes me angry.
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>>18697497
Any parallel of oppression and outlawness can be drawn to any fucking opressed group. The point is she was too deep into real world politics and probably twitter smegma that it would lead to those kind of posts and stuff like >>18697081.
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>>18697681
I dunno, man, I'm enjoying mine. The nonstick surface is pretty good.
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>>18697748
The earlier parts of the story were actually good
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>>18697805
This, pans can be awesome. Nonstick surfaces means you can grill a cheese to your fox and not use oil!
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>>18694761
>Zistopia had a terrible premise for a kids movie
This is making the presumption that Howard wanted to make a kids movie.
If you consider the background with him liking 'Robin Hood' in his youth, growing up gay, and being into animation, his view of the world would ideally set him up to make something like Zistopia.
There are dark adult cartoons out there, but most never made much money, and Disney is in the business of ̶m̶a̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶k̶i̶d̶d̶i̶e̶s̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶y̶ making money.
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>>18697458
rewriting how meshes and their textures are loaded, planning how the pathing grid is going to be setup, finished the dialogue backend a few weeks ago and i've been putting off how the frontend is going to work, and i made a toblerone mesh for no reason :V
so, decent
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>>18697123
>>18697296
If I recall correctly, proto-Zootopia ended up with this problem, too, with an ancient sheep conspiracy having manipulated civilization since ancient times.
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>>18697748
notskye is barely a character, go read the story for the early parts.
notskye just shows up a bit on the story but most of her stuff is sidecontent, and the going full retard is when the story was already meh to begin with so doesnt matter
its good, seeing nick & zisjudy develop is nice even if there is no conclusion
>>18697703
fix desuarchive search, seriously there is no way to search this shit fast
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>>18697899
AH SHIT HURTS MY FINGERS
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>>18697899
>i made a toblerone mesh for no reason :V
You better make that a usable item in the game.
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>>18697899
OwO what's this?
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>>18697898
Note: I never said Zistopia would be a kids movie. But as a family friendly movie. Which is Disneys major forte. Zootopia was definitely a family friendly movie though, and calling it a "kids" movie [though I didnt say Zistopia was going to be] was a bit far.

>>18697899
Wasn't this a dating simulator?
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>>18697899
>toblerone
that HAS to be in the game.
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>>18698048
>Remmy gives Charlie and giant Toblerone.
>"Chocolate is toxic to foxes, Cormo."
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Alright thread, want bulge or no bulge first?

First reply chooses.
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>>18698121
bulge
supersize me captain
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>>18698121
Bulge of course. Do you even need to ask?
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>>18697899
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>>18698121
Bulge.
>>18698168
Have a good snooze Lewdgoose, may you dream of your squirrel bf.
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>>18698168
Buona notte tuber
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>>18698210
>>18698187
Look to >>18698179
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>>18697237
>>18696944

Even if he apologized, people here wouldn’t forget or readily forgive.

Not sure why there was such a shitstorm over this and why some people took it so personally.

Maybe anons didn’t like how he said his goodbye but it doesn’t seem like he meant any ill will.

All this does is chase a CC out and make it difficult for them to come back and share comfy. And that’s probably why CCs now just disappear without a word, no knowing if they’re just taking a break or if they’re gone for good.
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>>18698179
Sup candy, how've you been?
Nice draw.
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>>18697958
And on what words should I search?
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All this talk about Zistopia and Chumpy made me feel that good nostalgia of the olden /ztg/ days. Good to know these threads can still be comfy af.
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Is Trix still doing streams around here?
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>>18698251
i will be honest with you chief, half of his leaving letter makes no sense to me and most of his stuff i saw was from before he even left for the seals. like who the fuck is ryz? bunanon isn't just the one who writes the weird jack/judy stuff and bunanon rp?
these posts also hide what made my skin crawl about chumpy, that was that he announced that the threads were already declining and he'd be surprised if they lasted some more months on his first departure post. i mean the fuck you are barely here m8, tf you doomposting here for. i aint going on the discord trying to shit on your parade because people keep posting borba on the thread. if you got issues on the discord act like an adult human being and fix them rather than air dirty laundry here.

i can agree that sometimes people can hold grudges but youre honestly picking a terrible start for that discussion, unless youre actually trying to defend the shitstirrer.
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>>18698261
Well I drew the bulge on the color layer and fucking colored over it so that's something.
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>>18698457
I love the shirt effect in the bottom panel
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>>18698457
Nice Rob, I'm glad to see this continue!
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>>18698273
no idea, tumblr's a nightmare and e621 thumbnails do not fucking help identfiying since absurd res.
id put around "judy_hopps wolf -nick_wilde" or something but even then there's a fucking billion 10000x3000 entries.
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>>18698457
Who let Gud in there? He's just gonna harass all the tubes
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>>18698457
AW SHIT AVERY

Also Nick is reminding me of Indiana Jones for some reason.
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>>18696702
Yeah, that's a classic.
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>>18698457
Damn
Great to see more of this Rob
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>>18697483
>>18698500
do you mean this comic?
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>>18698683
And it was a good slip.
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>>18698683
OwO
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>>18698594
>>18698555
>>18698550
>>18698499
>>18698475
Thanks guys! Glad you like it!

>>18698683
Hot daaamn! Nice work Candy!
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>>18698595
Yeah. If you mean the whole comic, then I think e621 has it.
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>>18698751
>>18698763
>>18698827
Wow stop being supportive or ill draw his butt-view jerks.

Yo also thread, what kind of place would Nick live in?
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>>18698873
Some people use his concept art apartment, full of pipes, sleeping on drawers. I'm sure concept art anon has it.
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>>18698457
Who's the panther with Gud?
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>>18698873
In that caae i better shower you in praise.
Rainforest? mostly for the whole concept, could also be downtown. Maybe somewhere inbetween those districts.
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>>18698944
I personally think he lives in a nicer place than the concept art apartment.

That place was also to indicate the sorry lifes predators had to lead, by taking underpaid jobs, and paying impossible rents.

I think the final version of Nick, lives in somewhere nicer, at least something similiar to Judy's place.

He wouldn't be in a high end apartment, the way I drew him in FoxyTeaser but I doubt he lives in a basement
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>>18698441
I wasn’t around when chumpy was active or when he left so it doesn’t make much sense to me either.

I’m just saying that the grievances have been aired out many times and people make mistakes. I think it’s okay to let it go and just remember the art instead.
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>>18698991
>>18699003
>>18699011
>>18699019
That's the one, though I might be misremembering something but I think there was more stuff about Judy talking around on how she was bad with dates with other bunnies. That latter one might be merging with other stories since it's a trope common as fuck in the fandom.
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>>18699047
It looks like a pretty swanky fuckpad 10/10 buns should be dicked here

That Zootopia skyline in the background is amazing as fuck Rob. Looks like fireworks
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>>18697748
BTW, the whole conspiracy was to create collars that essentially lobotomized preds and the stuff with Manchas going feral was a side effect of the collar fucking with a pred's brain.

I forgot if it was a way to make sure they'd NEVER complain about their collars, or a way to make the collars unnecessary; the main llama's plan didn't make much sense.

Also, collars were created by the cat Nazi's.
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>>18699047
Wow thats a heckin good idea of it. Nothing exceptional nothing run down.

Good shit man.

>>18699108
Yeah this kind of shit is what was the weird point in the comic. Like they could've shown the fact the collars were controlling them without it being... this?
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>>18696674
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>>18698179
Candy!

Man, it feels like a dog's age!
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>>18699108
>collars were created by the cat Nazi's
nono, it was created by zootopians to be put on the captured cat nazis, to be sent back and make the crazy cat nazis kill the rest of the cat nazis.

Basically like a zombi virus in warfare
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>>18699156
Nice TGG, she looks good!
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>>18699058
I have no issues with his art or grievances when it is posted, it was other anon who posted them. I just have problem with people acting like the thread bullied Chumpy away. Nobody is saying nobody makes mistakes (especially considering the thread were in), but Chumpy literally dropped the thread and only came back to try to pivot the thread agaisnt other users. I forgive him but that doesn't mean you get to say "Chumpy did nothing wrong, this thread is toxic and this is why everyone is leaving" without me challenging it. If you don't want it brought up, doesn't bring it up, don't foster discussion about it.
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>>18698441
>>18699058
>>18698251
The reason people didn't forgive him was that the thread loved Chumpy. He was really cool back during the first year, and literally everyone wished him well when he went off to join the SEALS/Coast Guard.

So when he came back, and was basically ignoring everyone in the thread, people were taken aback at his attitude. He was acting like an asshole for no reason.

Tensions started growing, then he made his infamous drama-leaving post, and then came back.

I know that kind of shit is normal for people on FA or whatever, but it's still annoying as fuck.
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>>18699181
IIRC, woke sheep dude told Judy that they captured Nazi scientists to create the original collar to use on captured cat Nazis and activate them during prisoner exchanges/releases, and that the fathers/grandfathers of the current Cub Club were the ones who lobbied them to be used for public pred use.

It's been a while since I read it, and it was really, REALLY dumb, so you might be right tho...
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>>18699164
I am surprisingly still alive somehow.

Life won't let me DIE.

>>18698967
WHOOPS my hand slipped again wow
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>>18699313
same It's a bit over complicated, and whatnut.

Also it's 1 am here and dunno how much work I'll have, so for now, Good night magical place of ztg!
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>>18699350
Did you know you made a cameo in Rob's newest comic?
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>>18699350
Think we could get a Henrietta lewd sometime soon?

I miss that cute 'yeena.
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>>18699374
What the FUCK Rob why did you draw my zoosona as not some horrible gremlin of a creature.


>>18699388
If only Henrietta wasn't fucking dead....
Nah but maybe tonight I do need to DRAW.
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>>18699350
Dang. Hope you keep on making suspiciously lewd mistakes then

>>18699358
Sleep tight Mr. Civet!
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>>18699047
I think you're on the mark regarding the concept art being other setting, though I have a hard time imagining where movie Nick would leave. All fan interpretations are kinda unimaginative as they seem "default apartment" description, which Judy is, to be fair.
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>>18699459
Judy's apartment seems like more or less a dorm room its amazing wheres the fucking bathroom.

[totally didn't make Henriettas room like that whoops]
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>>18699108
I wonder if NW ever saw this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCeeTfsm8bk
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>>18699313
>Cub Club
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>>18699156
Nice.
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>>18699531
Tasty flower. Could be tastier with special sauce
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>>18699508
Assumed shared bathroom, kitchen, laundry, et cetera. I mean, look at the rest of Zootopia. Multiple sizes, specific tools or pet-toy style things. I remember a TT that was houses or something and people were theorizing tubes would have pipes to separate rooms, maybe more vertical than other homes.
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>>18699531
Why is he eating that flower?
Who eats flowers?
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>>18699108
Yeah i k ow about the smile zombies.
Being honest, this felt very soapboxy so i didn't felt bothered at all, but rather found it cute, mostly because the smilies on the collars, feel they have a nice composition to them so they look, sorry for using this word, aesthetically pleasing. Thanks to that i ignore the whole point zis was trying to hammer in to the point the plate broke, and focus on the thing i like. If something is already going down because the author's ego, why not try to see the small good parts you do like?
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>>18699643
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>chocolate :v
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>>18699251
Well he somehow didn’t get into the coast guard, something about him accidentally breaking his leg, so from then on he was probably very dissatisfied with a lot of stuff. A cocktail of disappointment, self-doubt and desperation probably overcame the dude, which lead him down on a path of destruction. Chumpy tried to get back into the community, but it seems his actions and the resulting consequences created a mindset where he could not see himself as part of the community anymore.
I just hope he’s gotten wiser from the experience and is doing ok, wherever he might be.
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>>18699531
>>18699673
And on the distance, a tube dude is both angry at his garden getting eaten, and feeling lost as his whole worldview is flipped on its feet as he sees it isn't ungulates the ones who eat his flowers.
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>>18699788
Nice Comic Sans asshole
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>>18698457
So freaking good, I love how you build the scene and anticipation Rob
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>>18699829
So what was chumpy's sona?
May have had reason to be upset.
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Meanwhile.
I thought you had to worry about fur in your palm?
Oh, right, females...
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>>18699935
First a sheep then a hyena then a seal and then that weird candy cane thing? I think that's the order anyway. I joined the community after things went sideways for him. I remember the yeen the most.

Dude could draw a damn pretty badger though.
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>>18700004
Nah, sheep, seal, rooster in the discord for like a day I think, then hyena, then candycane dog.
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>>18697422
Maybe not a tiny "illuminati" cabal, but rather political corruption or a much larger political system.
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>>18700139
Any comparison? It can get cynical silly, though we're already on collar territory so it might fit.
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>>18700403
Well, just look at politics in real life.
It's not just a handful of bankers that makes bad shit happen, lower-level politicians and community/religious figures might be indoctrinated or paid off, indoctrination via public education and the media, local organizers paid by NGO's. If it showed the CC being a well-organized, corrupt political machine, that would be a bit more believable than 5 hoofed animals with money.
To make the society more "likable" it should highlight that there's at least some popular prey support for predator rights, but they've been getting politically snubbed. What it should set up is that there is a predator rights movement boiling under the surface, but Nick and Judy are the catalysts that lead to real progress.

>Cabal/conspiracy-type enemy is now believable
>People don't want to see the world burn now
Bam, problem solved, audience redpilled.
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>>18700403
>>18700711
TL;DR -
>The cud club should be bigger than just a few people, and the people involved should have different motivations (money/power/useful idiots)
>There should already be some support for predator rights to not make the situation hopeless and make the world savable
>Judy and Nick shouldn't start the pred rights movement, but rather tip the scales in the right direction.
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https://www.americanbar.org/groups/entertainment_sports/announce/es-blog/2017/08/esplanade_production.html
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>>18700969
Yes, yes, we all know; this is old news.

AFAIK, it was dismissed twice by the courts.
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>>18701148
i like that yeen tho
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>>18700898
Honestly just showing some predators and preys mixed community live together fine would be already enough for me, wouldn't need a rebel rights movement silenced. Actually I dunno, that one Zistopia part where every bunny but a stick in the mud is just saying "wow isnt collars just silly why does it even exist" kinda rubbed me the wrong way.
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WEN PACK STREET
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>>18701416
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>>18701594
Oh no
I got it cancelled
I must commit sudoku
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I have a setup for a Zistopia that could take place after the first film
>people get dissatisfied/rejected by society or get screwed over by the system
>things getting fucked over by things beyond their control, feeling a lack of meaning, frustration of basic urges (read: Industrial Society and its Future)
>people turn to crime, terrorism, and other thrill-seeking stuff
>instincts/animal impulses blamed instread
>tame collars required for people who are "at risk"
>the actual reason is to breed out anybody with balls (see: zistopia's knothouse problem) to make a world of docile NPC's
Thoughts?
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>>18701594
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Fresh out of Zookyo

Abunikop

Coming this summer.
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>500x600
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>>18701610
>You got it cancelled!
I hope you 4down by 8across.
Wait, that's crosswords, what's sudoku?
>just kidding
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>rinehart for scale, i'm dun
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>>18702442
May as well ask

Are those health/mana numbers?
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>>18702480
health//steamina numbers
y would there be mana, that's silly :v
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>>18702499
Why do non-playable characters have stamina?
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>>18702510
because fighting :v
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>>18702522
I... isn't this a dating sim?
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>>18702531
I don't think even Arma knows anymore.
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Huur
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>>18693995
I love Nick's face in the lower left
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>>18702661
Will it ever be a game...
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Actually, if we're talking zist and similar fics, I just want to shill for someone.
I've just about finished (or caught up) reading Kitsunegari.
This is a seriously intense fic with an amazing amount of detail and emotion.
I think the 'blurb' is a bit misleading which initially put me off reading, but now that I do my reading via 'text to speech', I'm less afraid of 200k+ word stories.
The story parallels the movie, but as seen by other preds while the 'savage' incidents go down.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11862965/1/Kitsunegari
Also on A03
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>>18702915
yes :u or i'll die trying
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>>18703000
Okay but what kind of game is it gonna be.
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>>18703043
A gamer game.
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>>18703000
I have no idea how complex game design and stuff is, but would it be possible to generate many of the Zoot, and more-so the Pack characters, that could then be used in a 'Red vs Blue' style machinima?
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>>18703083
i've never played it :v but gl getting someone to make decent zoot models
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>>18703117
For the right price, I'm sure he could.
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>>18703083
>"So Nick, why do you think we're here?"
>"I don't know Carrots, it's one of life's great mysteries..."
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>>18699081
I always really dug Zistopia. Yeah, the artist got soapbox-y with the sexuality politics junk, but the worldbuilding was awesome.
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>>18703043
Battle Royale Early Access Survival Mixel Retro Horror Card Game Soulslike
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>>18703962
At this point it probably will be all of this and MORE.
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for anyone interested in my models' source, https://github.com/armasyll/psde
>or if you're interested in fucking with anything :v
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Are we going to see eldritch Judy for October?
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>>18703153
kek
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I come on thread having a drink, open the drawpile, no inspiredt. Close- realize i've just been zoned out for almost 4 hours. :(
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>>18704838
WELCOME TO ART!
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>>18704884
Thank you it is hellto be here !!
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>>18704838
I sure hope it was a refreshing can of Pepsi you had.
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>>18704838
yo dude, sorry i missed ya
dunno if anything i can do can help but if you down for doin drawpile stuff lemme know
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which zoot is most likely a weeb
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>>18705514
Lionheart.
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>>18705514
you
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>>18705514
Priscilla.
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>>18705514
Charlie or Pandora
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>>18705659
Sleep tight bunner
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