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/ZTG/ - Zootopia General: bright colours, butterflies and happiness edition

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Current TT Theme: Halloween (Submissions are due Oct. 26)
More information on TT: derpy.me/trashthematicthursdays

TT Archive: t3event.tumblr.com
TT Pastebin: pastebin.com/gudYsYHL
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>>12060166
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Damn, I had a good name for mine too.
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You wanna do WHAT to Ozzy?
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Finished HC's request.
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>>12060185
do tell?
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>>12060186
Hug him, or watch as the badger does it.
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>>12060183
These are good foxxos.
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>>12060203
>pic related
>"Aids Nick Edition"
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>>12060219
Alternate title: Foxadelphia.
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>>12060186
Kiss his forehead and stroke his head
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>>12060242
Good buns, good foxes, and a horrible, horrible skunk
Look at her
Plotting
Scheming
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why would clawhauser show them shipping porn
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Who do you miss the most, anon?
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>>12060317
fuck let me try that again
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>>12060319
People I don't aim at.
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i sweat I'll get back to making story progression stuff one of these days

but until then have a pizzafeline
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>>12060317
Why would you post a thumbnail
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>>12060319
All our dead CCs
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>>12060355
it downloaded that way /shrug/
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>>12060348
>courses for horses
But what does this mean?
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>>12060348
it wuold be if do sex with pizza equine

would make harrd me cock
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i like zootopia
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i hate zootopia
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Why don't you understand that no one else will do, my sleazy yeen?
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>>12060348
There's no better way to get to a colt's heart than through his stomach.
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>>12060388
Shes building an obstacle course
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>>12060190
Amazing, waga! Love the colors and the fur details. You did a perfect job, kudos my friend
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>>12060319
/co/
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>>12060346
I desperately wish someone would draw this with Charlie or Rosie.
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>>12060340
>>12060317
Cause it's the best ship, has a badger in it.
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>>12060166
>Current TT Theme: Halloween
I drew Mack as a gorgon (specifically Medusa) for Halloween because using her dreads as snakes sounded like a great idea.

I also like the thought of "Macdusa" at a party and playing a game in which she tricks her friends into looking at her in the eyes and if they do, they have to freeze in whatever pose they're in for 5 minutes.

>>12060190
You did so well on this! Great job, Waga.
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>>12060319
This pretty kitty
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>>12060190
Digital paining is patrician tier
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>>12060497
>those eyes
Good stuff, funny use of character design
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How do you fix a rabbit overpopulation problem in the future? Make them into walking IEDs
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>>12060574
Yee ee e s
Good stuff dude
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>>12060497
Damn youre early but thats cute
Medusa must be something crazy in Zootopia
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>>12060574
No, bunnies deserve gentle head pats
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>>12060574
This is the most dis of Zistopias
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Embrace It updated
>married, domestic Nick and Judy
>collared Nick that won't shock him but still necessary
>adopted fox kit because Judy can't be pregnant anymore
>a lot of side chars's story arc being concluded
(with a weeee bit unhealthy amount of ships/pairings) nicely
>Jack and Skye's side story being underway
>a box...
>a funny BOX!!!
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>>12060574
jesus christ how horrifying

Kinda reminds me of XCOM2. I sure hope there's resistance fighters.
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>>12060574
akella this is really fucking cool
i love the aesthetic
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>>12060780
Source?
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>>12060676
Is it any good?
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>>12060442
No one else will do what? Let you down? I can see that.

Anyways, I'm gonna head to sleep now. A bit early, but I had a rough day.
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>>12060916
You have a good night Mr Yeen, please take this tube to keep you warm.
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>>12060676

Honestly I feel pretty fucking mixed when it came to the final chapter. Like the author wanted to still make it happy and light-hearted but still couldn't give them a perfect end. And the pregnancy kind-of went against facts stated in the last chapter.

So I have no idea if they forget about it or it was just an assumption that she couldn't have any more.

>>12060826

I'd say you should. Romance doesn't happen right away but when it does it feels solid and enjoyable and the actual case/killer was kind-a cool/interesting.

The speciesm and the "OH GOD HE'S A FOX!!! HE IS EVIL!!!!!" was pretty bog standered though.
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>>12060542
Thanks!
>>12060615
I knew the topic would be Halloween anyway, but it only took me a few hours anyway. Thanks!
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>>12058840

>"Nick!"
>"Mmh."
>"Nick wake up." She's rocking his shoulder, and rocking her hips against him.
>Nick cracks one eye. Judy is right where she belongs under his chin. But her pupils are huge in the dark, even behind half-closed lids. He knows that look.
>"Another one?"
>"There were two of you," she says. She's chewing her lip. "You, and you."
>The addled mind of a tired Judy Hopps is such a strange place. Nick is struggling to wake up enough to process this new information. It's harder than it should be. Even her grinding against him is slow to pull him up out of unconsciousness.
>"You can't concentrate that much animal magnetism in one place," he mumbles as he reaches for her. "The universe would collapse."
>"Okay."
>"Okay?" She's naked, and so randy she won't even let him in at first. When he finally does get a claw between her legs she stiffens like a live wire.
>"Would be worth it. Come onnnn..."
>Nick wraps his tongue around his soaking finger and it's better than adrenaline. Okay, now he's awake. One taste and he doesn't care how late this is going to make them to work tomorrow morning.
>"I've only got two paws," he says.
>But he can make it work. He's got teeth and a tail and in a minute he's going to have a serious erection. Judy's already pushing at his shorts. Would that be enough?
>It's her apartment. That means her toy's around here somewhere. Under the bed in its box, where he'd watched her put it away last night. It's no second Nick Wilde, but it can also do things even he can't.
>Judy is still half asleep, and can't decide which part of him she wants to hump. Nick has to slow her down long enough to make sure she's lucid enough to decide. He gets a big paw against her soft chest and holds her gently down, which might not be helping. The teeth against her ear definitely dont, but the kiss probably does. It gets her to pause for breath.
>"Are you sure."
>"I'm here," she pants. "It's me. Gimme."
>"Just making sure."

cont.
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>>12060916
>No one else will do what? Let you down?
Believe me, there's no way you could.
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>This is going to take some careful positioning over her so he can reach what he wants to. But if he lines them up right, maybe it will at least feel like two Nicks.
>Rabbits build intimidating vibrators. It kicks like an air drill in his paw when he clicks it on. It makes Judy kick, too, when he slides it home. Her claws seize his hips and she comes sharp and fast.
>And Nick almost bucks himself when he feels a hot rabbit tongue against his tip. And her paws, pushing against his sheath, sliding his erection out, making him swell.
>Now it's a race. Most times Nick can give Judy another one before he gets too carried away, but tonight she is so focused and enthusiastic that he might just come first. He can feel his heart thumping harder. It won't be long.
>It does put that last bit of concern to rest, though.
>So he lowers his muzzle and adds his tongue to the buzzing vibe. He tries to time his motions so Judy will feel his efforts from both ends.
>And in the end he's not sure which of them is more successful. She squeezes hiz muzzle with her thighs, and laces her fingers under his knot. Her tongue swirls.
>Nick is seeing stars. He pumps Judy's toy in her until he feels her twist again, and tries not to pump too hard against her paws. Almost-
>Oh, there. He watches her throat bob as she swallows. He can feel her catching her breath.
>When he's caught his, he switches her toy off, and she moans when he slips it out.
>But it seems to have scratched her itch. Nick reorients them. She's wiping her mouth.
>"It wasn't too strong, was it?" He looks her over, to make sure she's really okay. "That other Nick gets carried away sometimes."
>"No, it was good," Judy laughs. She nuzzles against his chest again, and now she's quiet and still. Sated. "I'd give you a thank-you kiss..."
>"In the morning," Nick says. "I'll be here, don't worry."
>It's just a shame, he thinks, that there won't be another Nick to help with the laundry.
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>>12060780
Backless dress Judy is the best Judy
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>>12060999
in the last chapter it was said that Judy couldn't give birth "anymore", which means if the 2 have sex, they wouldn't be able to have kits. And they already had sex before the incident, so there is that
Ok, honest talk here, sometimes this fic confuses me as well. But overall, it is still very well-written (despite having so gosh-darn many "orbs") compared to many fics. It has a good story that progresses and not many plot holes, and a good sense of direction for main characters as well as side ones
So, all in all, not bad, not bad at all!
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This is not trending enough.
https://e621.net/post/show/1356092/2017-anthro-belt-beverage-buckteeth-bulletproof_ve
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>>12060574
Damn Akella, this is even darker than the last one. I see the rabbit has a scar, is it from a lobotomy or something?
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Hello everybody!

The next Greentext Theater will be on Tuesday, 7pm PST!

Who here's excited? I'm excited! You should be excited too!
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>>12061141
Ok, we get it.
can you please stop posting the same fucking shit??
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>>12061217
calm down anon, it wasn't posted that much
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>>12061085

I actually thought of almost this exact scenario before thinking of the sex machine.
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What are some of the worst zootopia fanfictions in your opinion?
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Hey /ztg/

Who has best footpaws?
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>>12061116
Huh. Context clues! I ain't good at them that's for sure.

But ya, it sure as shit better then most of the ilk that is out now-a-days. Even with the crap ton of ultra cheesy tropes and stuff within it.
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>>12061245
You
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>>12061238
I've seen a couple stinkers on FA
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>>12061200
I am always excited! Can I add this short to be read >>12050050 ? Would it work out alright? It is done with usernames so I'm not sure how well it would go over...
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>>12061254
Oh...thanks, anon.
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>>12060609
>>12060730
>>12060790
>>12061069

Thank you!

>>12061155
I would say it got it during the 'taming' process. Sometimes all it takes is some physical force to get what you want.
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>>12061217
>please stop posting the same shit.
Screen capped, renamed, address copied only 10 minutes ago?
First post!
Hadn't realised if it had been posted before?
Also, not talking about the artwork, but the description that goes with it.
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>>12061274
I'm gonna make a sequel to this idea of yours, all thanks to you!
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>>12061050
>>12061085

Welp. I'm aroused.
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>>12060348
meow

she looks very pretty zhan

>>12061200
yay
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>>12061238
You mean stuff that's rated pretty well but is still bad? Cause there's a mountain of shit but most of it is rated as such.
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>>12061266
I don't have the ability to see which post you're referring to here but I'll add it when I get home!
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Don't trust rams.
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>>12061200
Hey comic!

I know you've already got one of mine on the rreading pile, but how 'bout this one too?

http://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/trash/image/1507/59/1507597431309.png

Can't post images at the moment so a link will have to do.
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>>12061325
How about something the author put a lot of effort into, is formatted properly, but the plot just makes you want to puke. Regardless of rating, I'm asking opinions.
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>>12061361
Added!
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>>12061298
Happy that I could inspire you! I myself wrote a little synopsis for this au, but it's very bare bones and doesn't have a lot of details.
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>>12060497
>>12060528
Thanks dudes, really appreciate it.
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>>12061200
I'm excited, and maybe we'll get to hear more than two greens this time?
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Greentexts give me anxiety

They remind me too much of my past
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>>12060497
I wasn't expecting the eyes to move, nice on Mack.
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>>12061422
Then print out a greentext and nut on it.
Fuck your past.
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>>12061473
I wanted them to look more like googly eyes but I had no idea how to do that but thanks you!
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>>12061050
>>12061085
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>>12061337
You can trust Rams. Sheep are wonderfully predictable, they will consistently do the exact same things every time and rarely will they ever alter their decision making and thought process.

Its Foxes you need to doubt. Complete opposite of Sheep, unpredictable, capable of switching sides, beliefs, or attitudes at a moment's notice. They make for excellent thieves and murderers because rarely will they do the same thing twice and that makes it hard to trace a pattern.
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>>12061406
I don't think that it is bare bones. In fact, I like things that leave the stories for the imagination!
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why is everyone so cute
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>>12061581
'cause we are all bunners!
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>>12061510
Fake Dick Still Nick
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>>12061581
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>>12061581
Because everyone is asleep.
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>>12061626
do you watch them when they're asleep?
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>>12061634
Not him, but I brush their hair and whisper to them in chinese
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>>12061634
I do more than watch them. I hold their hands.
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>>12061654
I always hated people that do that
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>>12061238
>>12061367
At the top of the list, I would say is "Immoral". After reading it, the author actually has pretty good writing structure, few typos, but holy FUCK the self-insert power fantasy and stupidity in the plot.

For effort, "Zootopian Chronicles"; the overall series is nearly 800K words, so that is a lot of typing, but it is in script format, humans in Zootopia, human OC paired with Judy (because research, despite said research being wrong), and that just scratches the surface of what is wrong with this story.

"We just call them night howlers" is another, if only because of the author's insufferable OC Trisha that might as well be a female Jack Savage, but is overlooked by many because "girl on girl!"

Finally, "Force of Nature", even if the story is my guilty pleasure at the moment.
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>>12061695
anon, that's racist, hair-brushing is completely legal in most states
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>>12061525
Charlie specifically refereed to Remmy as a "wildcard". What kind of maniac do you have to be to be seen in that light by one of the shiftiest foxes around?
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>>12061104
Not exactly backless dress, but this one is good too.
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>>12061714
>800k words
>only a handful of favorites and followers
Goddamn why?
Seriously, it's clear no one is really reading it and no fanfiction needs to be that long.
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Here's OJ's first new draw from the previous thread, minus the "requests" to avoid confustion.
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>>12061850
A nuclear one.
A wild one.
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>>12061866
Fuck, posted the wrong one.
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>>12061857
That's one of my favorites.
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>>12061866
>>12061884
YOU HAD ONE JOB
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>>12061884
Here's the next one.

>>12061897
Dammit!
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>>12061860
Autism. The author really believes that what they are making is something special and deserves to be seen. And they are utterly blind to everything wrong with it. And this second part is considered the "2nd Volume" and he is planning on making it a trilogy.

And with statements like "I set out to make something ambitious, maybe even something TOO ambitious." Menser is so far up his own his ass, he is utterly delusional of everything around him.
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>>12061922
Fuck it. I'm bored and need the laugh. Anybody got a link to "The Zootopian Chronicals"?
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hes beautiful
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/ztg/, how do i friends?
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>>12061920
Here's the second to last one, Lucas the maned wolf.

This was the last one OJ drew:
>>12060340
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>>12061850
While true, Remmy is quite predictable. He's just not a typical Sheep but that doesn't change what he is.

No amount of fast food can change that
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>>12061958
Be charasmatic, kinda, and not antisocial.
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>>12061958
be a likable person
if thats to hard then lie and pretend youre a likable person
if you cant even do that then I suggest growing a split personality that has a likable personality
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>>12061943
May God have mercy on your soul, you crazy bastard.
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>>12061958
Become sociable and approachable. Also, be good at listening. People love to vent.
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>>12061979
>>12061983
>>12061991
... fuck.
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>>12061991
>People love to vent.
Everyone loves to vent, but few seem to love listing to venting... it's a conundrum.
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>>12062012
just find someone that genuinely cares about you and your well being
its that easy!
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>>12061983
F...Fox... I failed all three...
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>>12061860
I guess this is one of the few cases where an author is writing solely for themselves.

Also >>12061922 this. The author doesn't seem to believe that there is anything really wrong in his story, despite there being cheating, rape that is brushed away, Nick being an asshole to the highest degree, etc.

An anon, at least I am pretty sure it is one of us, has been arguing with Menser in the reviews about WildeHopps and it is fucking hilarious. They honestly don't think there is any romantic potential between Nick and Judy, and think Judy and a human is a more likely pairing.

>The only reason they are put together romantically is because they are male and female. It is inevitable that any male and female working together will have those who will automatically try and force them together as a couple. To me personally I really like the idea of FINALLY having a male and female in a relationship like this in a Disney movie where they can be friends and not romantically thrown together. But alas the fandom seems to think if you have a male and female in a Disney movie like this they have to be together romantically for some reason.

>>12061943
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12116737/1/The-Zootopian-Chronicles-I-Earth

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12175688/1/The-Zootopian-Chronicles-II-Darkness

You can honestly skip the first story; summary, Judy gets sent to Earth becauses reasons, gets poked at by scientists, accidently molested by human OC, saved by OC, bonds with them, and then transported back to Zootopia with human OC.
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>>12061367
>>12061367
Can't really think of any specific fics, but these show up pretty frequently across the board and they almost never do well
>Nick & Judy involved with an overly convoluted Illuminati-esque conspiracy that makes no sense. Made doubly ridiculous by the fact that they are fucking beat cops who would never be involved with it regardless.
>Nick was secretly a way more dangerous & intelligent criminal before meeting Judy. Bonus points for having secret agent fighting skills.
>Human inserts.

This one's more of a personal dislike but also can't stand anything to do with interspecies relationship angst. I honestly can't tell when these are done well or poorly anymore because its used so fucking often.
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>>12061943
Anon you are going to be at it for DAYS, reading it. Are you sure you want to do that?

Well this is the link to the 2nd Part, just look for the first part if you want to do that one to.

(Where everything just goes fucking stupid is the 2nd part though. First part is so nothing.)

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12175688/1/The-Zootopian-Chronicles-II-Darkness
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>>12062020
People like that are a rare gem these days, but family can usually be counted on to care a little bit a t least.
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>>12062047
is the first one "In the after days" and the second "Wilde heart"? Yeah, those are freaking convoluted, but hey, if the fan boys and girls like 'em
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A lot of people like this: http://cloudyloudy.tumblr.com/post/166451284308/kulkum-korarusancomics-the-mark-chapter-13
...why?
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So CCs, are you already working on your Halloween submissions, or are you still trying to think of ideas?
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I wanna raw Nick
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>>12062045
>>12062049
>37-41 chapters
OH GOD WHAT HAVE I SIGNED UP FOR
I REGRET EVERYTHING
I still gotta do it though.
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>>12062162
I'm finfishing my edgy thingy, gonna make a lot uncomfortable with it but ah well
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>>12062162
CCs don't think
they're mindless attention whores
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>>12062192
incorrect
im constantly thinking of cute boys
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>>12062192
indeed, those damn content consumers... SHAME on them!
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>>12062192
Former CC
Can confirm
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>>12062173(me)
ONE OF THE CHARACTERS IS NAMED BLAZE WHAT THE FUCK
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>>12062100
People actually liked "Warmbloods"; after that, I have no faith.

>>12062173
I want to read your reaction to the first four-five chapters of "Vol. 2", that is the first challenge.
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>>12062192
Sounds like the pastor project tests worked!
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>>12062189
Hmm edgy is a fine line to walk... art can be dark, but still be very good, like Repy's Halloween comic last year. (Hopefully by "edgy" you don't mean "cub porn" though)
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>>12062223
but warmbloods was beautifully drawns and colored, how could you not like it?
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>>12062162
My draft is on schedule. If all goes according to plan, I'll be able to drop chapters from TT through Halloween itself.
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>>12062084
I'm honestly terrible about remembering the names of fics, even when I like em, but those two definitely fit the bill.

I mean I can usually suck it up if the writing is good but at some point, there's a fuckin line
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>>12062162
I've got an idea, I just don't know how engaging it'll be.
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>>12062238
nah, no cub, just a continuation of this >>12061541
...you just gave me an idea though
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>>12062049
Are we discussing cringy human in Zootopia five?
I'm still trying to determine if this one is totally tongue in cheek, or if the author actually believes that he is writing a masterpiece?
The self insert is running at 150%.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11896584/1/Zootopia-Sly-Human-Dumb-Zootopia
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>>12062173
Zootopia "Small Cocks over Fox" Chronicles
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>>12062223
I mean if you want I can like write shit down.
I'm a writefag though so be warned I'm gonna be pretty salty.
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>>12062268
oh yeah, the author of Wildeheart claimed that they did research as well, lots and lots, as Nick turned out to be a super soldier that could memorize things better than a computer and Judy is like the sexiest of the sexy... for some reasons

I wonder what happened to that fic
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>>12062295
do it, we need the entertainment
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>>12062258
Cool, it sounds like you are planning something involved.

>>12062269
Maybe post a hint as to the topic, and we can tell you what we think?

>>12062271
Leave them kids alone...
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>>12062278
>Google it
>Starts off with solider human
>worry.jpg
>Author bombards reader with military jargon, designations, and codes
>wakemeup.jpg
>multiple hard breaks to shift character POV within the first chapter

I can't
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>>12061850
She referred to him as a wildcard cause he's too oblivious and would have most likely probably given away her disguise
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>>12062249
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, so here is the Warmbloods I am talking about.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11901147/1/The-Warmbloods

I apologize in advance.

>>12062294
>The difference in a human vs a fox and a bunny is that humans still basically have sex the same way bucks do. Although bucks tend to do it at quite a frenetic pace. However foxes and canines in general are quite different. What may seem like copulation is actually them merely attempting to fit their "knot" into the vixens special pouch exactly right to be stimulated so that their soft male member will fill with blood and become fully swollen. Without the stimulation of that pouch the fox's reproductive organ is flaccid held semi-rigid only by a penis bone. Also foxes do not copulate like humans or male bucks... they instead become locked with the vixen for an extended length of time... sometimes 15-30 minutes until they finally release after spreading their sperm in the vixen. There are other issues with other types of sex (for example oral sex) where foxes would have issues trying to perform while a human would have some chance of success using some creative solutions.

Ignoring the fact that canines can, in fact, ejaculate without the knot.

>>12062295
Do it, I would love reading all the salt.
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>>12062335
JUST DO IT
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>>12062317

Clawhauser getting a tarot reading, but tarot is complicated and it was originally just meant to tie in to something else I wrote. I think it's kinda spiraling out of the original intention.
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>>12062357
oh, that, nvm I thought you were talking about that fan art on tumblr
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>>12062335
Did this literally start with "I hate sand"

oh my fuck
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>>12062278
>>12062335

If you think thats bad. You should see this:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12152321/1/Zootopia-Two-Worlds

Its basically that ONLY WORSE, Its a retelling of the movie except with a Human Soldier OC and the author is such a fucking internet tough guy. Imagine the OC whiteknighting Judy after his first meeting with Nick, that is exactly what happened.
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>>12062357
>ignoring the fact that canons can, in fact, ejaculate without the knigt

Right? it's like he's never seen a veterinarian jack off a dog before to collect the semen for breeding.
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>>12062357
>Nick would have trouble with oral sex
what the FUCK am I reading
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>>12062383
*after 'her' first meeting with Nick
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Is there any suplexing stuff?
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>>12062373
I could see Clawhauser getting a ominous tarot card reading being a good start to a Halloween story.
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>>12062401
The author trying to justify his shit writing.
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>>12062383
You know what, no. I'll take your word for it. I'm never gonna get back whatever amount of time I spend reading that.
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>>12062436
>This would have trouble with a vagina

jesus christ what a literal delusional autist
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>>12062359
>third chapter
>author inserts a break with a note that you can play a specific song here if you like

DONE

SO DONE
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>>12062436
Damn...autists can write all this shit, but I can't get myself to write a few sentences. That's gotta change.
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>>12062357
>Ignoring the fact that canines can, in fact, ejaculate without the knot.
Is this firsthand experience anon?
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>>12062483
That's genuinely funny
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>>12060461
>missing the worst board
What?
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>>12062417
I guess there's this...
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>>12062517
thats a body slam anon
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>>12062517
N K O
K
O
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>>12062525
>>12062536
I don't know much about wrestling... how bout this?
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>>12062486
Look at it this way.
The reason they produce so much is because they do not look back or fix anything.

They write, vomit it onto the site, then never fix it.
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>>12062549
That's it, anon.
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>>12062436
>But in reality its much more likely judy and a human could work than judy and Nick

Wow.
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>>12062313
>>12062223
>>12062357
Alright so I've read through the first 5 chapters and as requested, have written down my thoughts on "The Zootopian Chronicals: II Darkness"

Honestly everything started going downhill like 2 paragraphs in. Aside from the incredibly obnoxious author's note, the fact that they're naming humans shit like "Zues, Saber, and Blaze" is already a red flag.
Also:
>Zdate: 36 P.C.
Like why
Why would you even
And Jesus Christ, play format too. Play Format is one of the harder to read formats of text if you're trying to actually enjoy a story so why in god's name would you write your Zootopia self insert human fanfiction in play format?
Did you expect Byron Howard himself to roll up in his Chariot and go "OH SHIT GUYS, WE FOUND THE SCRIPT FOR ZOOT 2" ?

Here, direct quoting pasted from the fic itself

>Judy: "It's just I'm not ready to talk about it with you."

>Nick gets a hurt look on his face. What in the heck is wrong with this long eared ball of fuzz. She never has had a single problem discussing anything with him. Well anything except

>Nick: realizing "It's the human. Carrots what have you gone and done?"

>Judy: "Nick, it doesn't change anything with us. Nothing will ever change with us I promise you that."

>Nick thinks Damn it Judy what the hell have you done.

Man, the OOC here. And on top of that you're going to use ellipses with a space after 'nick thinks' to state Nick's thoughts. So not only are you not using ellipses properly, one of the biggest trigger to anyone who knows anything beyond basic punctuation, but you're also going to use them to transition speaking methods for the exact same character.
Not only is the transitioning and wording sloppy there but hot DAMN, go back to gradeshcool English, bud.

Part 1, because apparently my post is too long. Only on chapter 2 rn
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>>12061085
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I honestly would read these sorts of human stories if they WERE tongue in cheek.

make it like, a weird interdimensional version of Jackass. I'd read the FUCK out of that.

"Hey, I'm Corporal Johnson and today, I'm going to fuck that rabbit."
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>>12062632
Vidya crossover where Halo comes to zootopia
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>>12062598
wow...
this makes me feel grateful that our writers are not autists
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>>12062632
>"Hey, I'm Corporal Johnson and today, I'm going to fuck that rabbit."
would read
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>>12062663
/trash/ is a beautiful ship of garbage, afloat in an endless sea of piss.
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>>12062598
Which is funnier if you read this, since the author claims to make them true to character.
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>>12062663
>our writers are not autists
They are, they're just better writers
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>>12062699
>specifically claims that he didn't make nick an emotional cucumber
>he made nick an emotional cucumber
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>>12062649
I'd fund it.
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>>12062192
you got me there buddy
the only reason it takes me more than five minutes to finish some shitty low effort drawing and sell myself out for attention is because i have to stop working every five minutes to jack off because im so horny thinking about how many of you dumb pieces of shit are going to give me the (you)s i need to convince the doctors not to cut off my life support
every time i one of my posts doesnt get enough (you)s i think about just ending it right then and there but im too much of a pathetic coward to possibly miss out on the 1-2 (you)s that i might get next time i post
if i wasnt such a mindless cowardly attention seeking faggot maybe i would be could bring myself to just put an end to this fucking meaningless facade that i call my life and validate with the attention of anonymous users on a lebanese hair braiding forum
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>>12062699
There's a lot of terrible crap in the rest of trash. I'd say ZTG is an island, but the other generals probably think that too.
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>>12062699
Because, you know, Nick asking Judy to show him how a buck was removing her pants right after she was nearly raped is totally true to his character.
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>>12062807
Have a (you) to survive anon. Keep fighting the good fight.
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you know whos cute

u
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>>12062807
I came.
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>>12062752
Gideon's feet are probably the second grossest part of his already gross body.
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>>12062854
wrong
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>>12062864
second only to his putrid goblin face
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>>12062869
but youre super cute anon
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>>12062882
still wrong
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>>12062887
Good stuff Akella. I could see rhinos being on the ZPD swat team.
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>>12062887
You're popping these things out like mad
They make me think of a video game that would come out of Zootopia as a shocking story driven shooter like Wolfenstein combined with Spec Ops The Line
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>>12062854
That's very kind of you Anon
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>>12062887
shit akella these are fucking mad cool
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>>12062807
What the cuss did you just say about me, you little fluff? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class at Zootopia community college, and Ive been involved in numerous scams and tricks, and I have over 300 confirmed hustles.

I am trained in evading taxes and I make 200 bucks a day, 365 days a year since I was 12.

You think you can get away with saying that to me over the Internet? Think again, carrots. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of foxes across Zootopia and getting the police to pay for my jumbo pop. I will not only sell you a pawpsicle, but I will sell one to each of your puny friends. Youre cussing broke, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can dodge taxes in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my bare paws.

Not only am I extensively trained in hustling, but I have access to the entire Big gangster community and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable tail off the face of the continent, you little wabbit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your muzzle.

But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you fluffy prey idiot.

Youre cussing broke, carrots.
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>>12062598

>Judy: "Together. And well like lots of stuff two mammals do together when they are like that and they have strong feelings for each other very strong."

>Nick is stunned a second as he took this information in

>Nick: "You and the human did no way. Carrots are you putting me on?"

>Judy: annoyed "Why do you think that is a joke?"

>Nick: stunned "Because like how in the hell would that even work?"

>Judy: defensive "It works quite well. Everything works quite well. I mean I don't know. I think it does. It seems to well I have no idea. It's not like there is any manual for that situation but but we both seemed quite happy even if it was a bit awkward at first."

THE ELLIPSES, PLEASE

>Nick: slyly "I read some of those human books you had on your little pad the ones with certain topics of interest to me."

>Judy: confused "Okay not sure what you mean but let's go."

Make up your mind, are you describing stuff in script format or during sentences? The switch is killing me.

Jesus, the star wars section. What even. I'm not gonna bother with that one but it's a steaming pile of crap.

Ch.3
Oh boy, now he just straight up says "zoodate"

>Fox Fatale

>This chapter is rated M/+. It has strong sexual suggestion but is not graphic or crude but suggestive as all hell. I told you this stuff starts heating up fast. And we are just getting started.
Great, now I get to read "sexual suggestion" this dude's shitty style.
Whatever that's supposed to mean.

Oh man, now Nick and "the human" are revealing thier tragic life stories to each other. Tooootally how that happens.

>Vlad: "Your money is no good here Nicky. Just bring him upstairs in a minute. And see Meme at the bar for some drinks for the ladies."
>>One of the chapters is named meme
I get that's it's supposed to be Mimi or whatever but yeah, Meme is accurate to this whole story.
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Gimme requests, ztg. Canon or zoosonas (with refs, please)

>>12062887
damn, that's a great poster!
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>>12062951
NANI?!
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>>12062947
OK I'm done. I lost it at chapter 3, and I'm really tired today.
I tried ZTG, hopefully you enjoyed this, lol.
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>>12062943
jesus christ fucking listen here you fucking ghoul
if that isnt a copy pasta you should probably consider reaching over to your bedside table and using that loaded handgun that youve been saving for a rainy day
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>>12062947
So we're finally giving it the MST it deserves? Fine by me.

I miss Project AFTER.
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>>12062709
STEP 2 IS SNUGGLE BUN

DO NOT THROW
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>>12062952
How about Zeke grooming Sunny, with a brush or tongue, either is cute. Do yeens even groom with their tongues?
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>>12062969
>rainy day
but anon...
I love rainy days
:c
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>>12062952
draw Bucky and Pronk doing something together
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>>12062952
Hey HC, how about something with the wolf guards? They don't get enough love.
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>>12062807
>the bit about the doctor's not cutting life support

Holy fuck thank you for that laugh
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>>12062993
Damn I forgot the ref
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>>12062952
Pack Street Remmy in his late forties balding, wearing wife beaters, blue yoga pants, with a gold chain around his neck.
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>>12062887
>rear AND forward-mounted turrets

Goddamn, the Sheep State does not fuck around.
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>>12062995
well at least you'll slightly less depressed than usual
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>>12062963
No wait! You didn't get to the part where the human OC cheated on Judy without being drugged or drunk, but Judy forgives him because "Nick was the one who set him up."
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>>12063085
Anon plz
I can't even
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>>12062486
Just deliberately write shit, lots of it, but then go back and sort it out.
You'll probably only keep half of it, but it may be presentable.
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https://sexbad.tumblr.com/post/166450335855/im-calling-it-bodeon-and-you-cant-stop-me-also-a
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>>12063085
>cheat on my gf irl
>HOW COULD YOU
>babe I'm sorry, Hitler's ghost made me do it
>Oh well, if Hitler's ghost made you stick your dick in that other girl, then I guess it's okay with me. I forgive you.
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>>12062632
>not Cernel Joson
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>>12062961
OMAE HA SUDENI SHINDEIRU
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>>12063154
Is that piss
IS THAT FINALLY PISS
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>>12063154
watersports is definitely one of the worst fetishes
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https://sexbadsfw.tumblr.com/post/166400529729/birthday-boy-a-very-serendipitous-commission-for
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>>12063156
Please stop, I'm begging you
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>>12063145
What the fuck is the creature being rimmed supposed to be?
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>>12062486
maybe it would be easier to write if that cloud of self pity wasnt blocking your view of your computer screen
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>>12063171
TB, is it painful for you to read peoples bad attempts at phonetic Japanese?
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>>12063085
>it's another "author shits on Nick for the sake of his OC" fic
What are the chances that this author self inserts himself as his OC too?
Pic related when I hear about this story.
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>>12062632
>>12062649
"Boom chicka bow wow!"
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>>12063181
Looks more like dust and dried semen to me, anon.
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>>12063175
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I can't remember seeing any of the pack getting drunk before. What sort of drunks would they be?
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>>12063194
Now I'm curious, are there fics that shit on Judy so the self-insert OC can get that sweet fox dick? Bonus points for human OC.
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>>12063211
Seriously?
Also there is almost no porn of that movies characters (not sure how old Bodi is supposed to be though, so maybe that's a good thing)
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>>12062947
>Judy: defensive "It works quite well. Everything works quite well. I mean I don't know. I think it does. It seems to well I have no idea. It's not like there is any manual for that situation but but we both seemed quite happy

Oh god that sounds like donald trump
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>>12063233
Ask and ye shall receive:

https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7940167/AlbineFox
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>>12063225
Mostly sad
A flirt or two
One would start revealing embarrassing things about themselves in a desperate bid for attention
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>>12063193
Kind of; in this instance it's writing the は as "ha" rather than "wa" like it'd actually be pronounced.

The most painful by far is when people go "Oh, you speak Japanese? *Lists off names of car companies* AHAHAHAHA"

I assume every language has some sort of dipshittery like that though; for example Italian and people listing off types of pasta or something.
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>>12062807
(you)'s are bad 'mkay!
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>>12063260
Fug, beat me to it. His fics are pretty hilariously bad too
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>>12063279
Made funnier if you realize his pals with (((Menser)))
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>>12062952
Boat Goat, please.
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>>12063114
>>12063142
Seriously, two does, who are apparently "masters of seduction", have sex with the human OC. Nick only ordered the room for him to be in. But apparently Judy even goes "I doubt even my brothers or my dad could resist them" and forgives the OC while getting mad at Nick for setting him up in a situation that he "couldn't help himself."
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>>12063287
Really? Don't you lie to me anon
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>>12063260
Oh man, everything on that page is like a red flag, I love it.
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>>12063275
(you)s are the only thing anchoring me to this mortal coil you fucking gremlin
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>>12063296
Check both of their favorites.
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>>12063233
Fox hunt, on FF, don't have time to link it
Male human x Nick, Judy got fucked and fucked some random married fox thinking it was Nick because the author hated Judy
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>>12063245
he might be around 17
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>>12063255
Dubs confirm trump wrote self insert Zootopia fan fiction
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>>12063302
source?
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>>12063225
al: relaxes, sheds his concerns for a bit, lets slip a few things he normally keeps buttoned up
anneke: even sleazier, even less in control, goes till she barfs
avo: starts thinking she's very suave and funny until she gets sloppy
betty: stirs her up a bit, wants to play bar games like darts or pool, almost willing to dance, god help you if there's a chance for a fight
charlie: abstains for fear of loss of control, but when she does she leans in hard on lost inhibitions
marty: liquid courage, picks arguments, rants more
wolter: see anneke
ozzy: not actually a fan, gets kind of emotional and clingy
remmy: oh boy get ready to hear what he ~really~ thinks about everyone, epic apology tour the next day
velvet: giggle factory, flirty, really unwinds
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>>12063314
And if thats not good enough for you.
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>>12063255
>We're gonna make the word a better place. The best place. Believe me, it's gonna be the greatest place you've ever seen, bigly.
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>>12063327
Read the filename.
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>>12063344
Oh god I thought that those names were familiar
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>>12063320
source?
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>>12063314
Autists of a feather flock together
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>>12063340
What about Best Badger?
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>>12063322
Hmm... that's marginal. I guess he's believably 18, and they don't specify an age.
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>>12063320
C u t e b u p p e r
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>>12063274
Japanese is so different that English that brand names and maybe a few words are probably all most people know, even the ones that watch Anime.

Your comment made me thing of this (I think it's all greetings and random phrases):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9g8bUOmvm8
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>>12063386
Rex is a violent drunk.
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>>12063351
Here you go anon, enjoy.
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>>12063340

Matching preferred drink:

Al: domestic beer by the case.
Anneke: "SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS"
Avo: Gin and tonic. She's watching her intake.
Betty: Whiskey.
Charlie: Still at a highschool level of drinking, so mostly screwdrivers.
Marty: Rum, but only *good* rum (get ready to hear about the difference as he mixes it with a disgusting grape soda, burying the taste anyway)
Ozzy: Basically okay with anything, no strong preferences.
Pandora: Whatever cocktail comes with a forest of fruit on top
Wolter: "EVERYBOOOOODYYYYY"
Remmy:
Velvet: White wine.
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>>12063293
>he couldn't help himself

Fucking what? Is he physically incapable of independent thought? I fucking hate when people use the excuse that "I couldn't help it". That only tells me that the character is a weak, slimy piece of shit who can't keep his dick in his pants
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>>12063225
>Al is like his father, saddled with crippling quiet suffering
>V is a fun drunk but is very lightweight, usually only drinks with Avo or Betty
>Betty likes to cut loose when she drinks, expect bar games and getting dragged around like a prop
>Marty hates the taste of alcohol but when he does have too much his Martina personality bleeds over a bit
>Avo is the lightweight of the Pack. Absolutely cannot take her whiskey so she's usually the designated driver
>Ozzy thinks a bit more clearly when he has something in his system but too much can lead to mood swings
>The twins forget who they are when they're drunk and will insist they're their sibling. Keep a watch out or its easy to forget which is which
>Pandora is like Betty on roids, get out of this Tiger's way seriously she will run you over and not notice
>When Don has too much to drink he makes himself a pan fried cricket steak salted and buttered, he eats that, puts on a pair of wet socks, and goes to sleep
>Dewy starts off drinking beer and ends the night drinking every fruity thing on the menu
>Rex is no different smashed than he is sober
>When Remmy drinks the memories come back. He doesn't drink often
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>>12063470
Ah shit, forgot the Remster.

He strikes me as a beer guy, maybe a liiiittle bit more particular than Al is without going full beer snob.
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>>12063274
People in das dritte Reich suffer from that kind of dipshittery as well.
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nite nite
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>>12063516
slep tite
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>>12063516
sweet dreams
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>>12063386
rex I figured's the type of guy who quit drinking after some experiences when he was younger, from his talk with remmy I got the feeling he's maybe seen some shit and his chill demeanor was something he worked at rather than coming naturally, so he's comfortable saying no
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>>12063302
Judy's skull is pretty much all eyes, it has little room for a brain... hence dumb buny
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>>12063516
Sleep tight, bunner!
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>>12063470
>>12063490
al's the type of drinker who if you looked at his can and said "oh, so you like lagers?" he'll look at you like you're some kinda huge nerd
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>>12063483
>If Charlie's been drinking she will absolutely feel you up while pretending she's not doing anything
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We should pick on autist writefags more often.
A very comfy (and funny) night.
And now sleep, perchance to dream of fluffy bunny butt.
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>>12063605
And you leave without your wallet.
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>>12063470
>Marty: Rum, but only *good* rum (get ready to hear about the difference as he mixes it with a disgusting grape soda, burying the taste anyway)

See I'd have guessed Spanish coffee
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>>12063225
Wolter is pretty sloshed here
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>>12063380
Wait
That picture
Noble?
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>>12063627
And your semen.
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>>12063608
It's always comfy to laugh at things that are hilariously terrible
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>>12063428
>Rex is a violent drunk.
I've met people like that, who are real nice when the are sober, and scary when they are drunk.
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>>12063274
an italian I feel obligated to say that the fastest way to flatter us is by listing off types of pasta
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>>12063636
Aw, I like this one a lot, real cute
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>>12063673
Always gotta be careful. When the glass is empty, the truth comes out.
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Speaking of terrible writefaggotry,
Any sort of professional study material I might be able to bookmark about creative writing/storytelling/worldbuilding?
Just so I can avoid ending up like those hacks.
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>>12063225

I think Avo would just be very...her
but amplified and more open

And more willing to do dumb things

ikindofhaveaficaboutitmaybeyou'dwannacheckitout http://archiveofourown.org/works/10538868
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>>12063698
>favourite types of pasta
Ooh, let's see...linguini, rotini, fusili, porcini, mussolini, beany weenie...man, they're all good!
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>>12063483
>>Dewy starts off drinking beer and ends the night drinking every fruity thing on the menu
that's cute
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>>12063729
The only way to stop being horrible at something is to be horrible for long enough until you're not. Just always try to improve, but don't be afraid to suck.
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>>12063729
Wilde heart
It's so convoluted with such "detailed" details that it got... even more convoluted
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>>12063627
It's the perfect crime, because once they realize their wallet's missing they figure the molestation was just a cover for the robbery, so they tell her off and she returns the wallet but actually it was stealing the wallet that was a cover for getting away with the molestation
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>>12063225
Pandora would probably super energetic. Dancing, flirting with like literally everything, might trip and break a table. Or someone's spine.
Would give great cuddles after falling asleep. Minus the hungover tiger breath.
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>>12063737
BEANY WEENIES ARE NOT ITALIAN
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>>12063729
I don't have any professional sources or tips, unfortunately, but I think the biggest thing is just the ability to take criticism.

It fucking sucks when you make something and people tell you how it's bad, but it's absolutely necessary. Unless you're some prodigy, you can't just make something fantastic out of nothing, it has to be refined.

I think all the authors mentioned could've really improved their works, but it requires critically examining what they've done and accepting that it's flawed. If you go into with an idea of it being some fantastic, million-word epic vision, things are gonna be rough.

That's really my 2 cents: get yourself to start writing, and then be willing to revise and change when others give feedback.
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>>12063642
In that case she can molest me as much as she wants.
>Charlie best girl.
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Goodnight /ZTG/
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>>12063833
Pandora'd grab you around the middle and wouldn't let you go. If you've been drinking too, better hope you drained the tank before she conked out for the night because you aren't going anywhere.
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>>12063729
Start making a list of things not to put in a Zootopia fic. (unless you're absolutely sure you can do it right, it definitely can be done)
Like:
Don't add a human OC to Zootopia
Don't shit all over an MC just to make your OC look better
Don't pair your OC with a MC
Don't make your OC or a MC into a marysue
Make sure the actions taken by the MCs stay true to their character. Ask yourself "would Nick really do/say this?"

and of course a lot more, but you get the idea
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>>12063874
>Mentally disabled career criminal fox who barely takes care of herself and lies to people for a living is superior to the beautiful buissness woman who runs her own chain of shops across Zootopia, and gives lectures at colleges
I was about to go to sleep but that's fucking wrong.
OK, now that's done goodnight ZTG.
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If I link my art and fics here will you guys give me honest critique on it? Getting tugged by fans with no standards is fun and all but I want to actually get better.
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>>12063729
Might pay to look through the 'TV tropes' website.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanficRecs/Zootopia
A lot to trawl through.
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>>12063954
Yes
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>>12063954
Do it fag, don't hold back
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>>12063954
People around here aren't really qualified to give good critique.
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>>12064004
Yeah well you're qualified to suck my dick
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>>12063730
That was a good read. Now, it's time for me to sleep.
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stb
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>>12063954
>honest
>4chan
Pick one.
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>>12063010
Started the wolf guards but I couldn't make it look decent, same with Zeke/Sunny. Maybe I should get some sleep and restart tomorrow, not making progress tonight

>>12062997
>>12063012
saving these ones too for some later practice

>>12063902
sleep tight, bunner
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>>12063954
neato, are you a new CC? Welcome on board if you are!
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>>12064073
No he said he wanted an honest critique not a sugar coated handjob of advice
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>>12064100
They can be welcome aboard and be torn apart.
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>>12064100
>implying
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>>12063919
>>12064042
>>12064057
Thanks!
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>>12063954
Folks like Rose and Comic are really great at giving pointers for art and writing (respectively).
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>>12063729
Well if you want study material, I've found the Hero's Journey to be pretty useful - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey

Most of it applies more towards the basic outline of mythology, but the various stages can be generalized into a pretty solid outline that covers what are generally considered to be core parts of a story. Of course, little of that applies to a slice-of-life story, so it comes down to what kind of writing you intend to do. If nothing else, keep a solid outline - have a good idea where you're starting, where you intend to go, and some major landmarks along the way.
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>>12064100
Man I wish this place actually did give out free handjobs
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>>12064134
so is asig I believe, and highcow seems to be stepping up as well
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>>12064115
Nah desu once someone's a cc people will to be too afraid of scaring them off to give a really rigorous critiques
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>>12063986
That's the kind of attitude I'm looking for. I haven't got one thing for you atm but you can rake my DA and AO3 over the coals:

https://bluedouble.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://archiveofourown.org/users/BlueDouble/works

I'll try to put my new stuff up here along with everywhere else. No lewds unfortunately, although I do plan on some SFW kinky stuff like scent/biting/bondage jokes.
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>>12064172
>TE and some edgy writefags as well as that guy who is making rape simulator
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I thought the most interesting thing about Transformation was that popular perception of Charlie was so out of step with the tone of her internal monologue that it's deliberately written to fake you out into thinking it's Marty. Part of that's definitely from our perception being coloured by Remmy's own perspective and interpretation on Charlie - I wonder how many other characters would sound much different in their own head if we got the chance to hear their side?
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>>12064207
hey dude, a bit sad that you won't be a CC among us but ah well, what can you do
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>>12064172
That's why you go to Comic and get him to lovingly draw and quarter your fic before your mortified eyes.
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>>12064207
Getting a bit late so I'll see if I can't give your shit a rundown tomorrow. Post this shit again at peak hours.
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>>12064233
It's interesting cause the way her inner monologue was written actually did seem in-character for Charlie the first time I read through.
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>>12064220
Honestly I have a certain degree of respect for arma because it seems like he's just kind of doing his thing and doesn't really give a shit about what other people think
Even if his thing is a little bit fucked up
>>12064261
Guess I'm shit out of luck not being a writer then
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>>12064038
glad to bring you some enjoyment

sleep tight anon
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>>12064233
That'd be interesting. Does Anneke have the interior monologue of Sarah Jessica Parker in Sex In The City? Would Ozzy consider himself a beat poet? Is Rex actually still a barely contained pit of rage and bile in a vat shaped like a badger?
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>>12064271
lookin forward to that beating
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>>12062952
I would like to see Betty dressed up in a sheep costume like this, and either Al or Remmy accidentally seeing her.
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>>12064220
Armasyll

If at any point you say "that guy" in this thread, it's Armasyll.
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>>12064273
I think a lot of people bought into Remmy's sort of blunt, shallow interpretation of her as just a weirdo with aspergers who doesn't understand social conventions. Transformation revealed there's a lot of depth to her thinking and some of her "ignorance" is a put-on, part of her act. It really connects with what happened with Savages and the latest update, where Charlie was actually extremely sensitive to something Remmy had been somewhat careless about, which doesn't fit with the "beep boop I'm eccentric what are feelings" act she did earlier.

I don't think anyone else has such a big gulf between how Remy perceives them and who they are on the inside as Charlie, since she deliberately tries to mislead people. Well, Marty/Martina I guess, but that's deliberate and sort of played for laughs with the audience.
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>>12064261
Comic doesn't shit on people though, he just explains his reasoning. He actually hates disouraging people or is afraid of it. So why does it suck to be critiqued by him?
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>>12064233

Where's that Porn Street written from Avo's perspective? Actually I think there's two, one where she sucks off Al, one where she sits on a dildo at work. Point is even if they're not canon I bet that's how Weaver would actually write her perspective, so that's one more character whose internal monologue we've seen.
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>>12064220
TE here. If you've got rigorous critiques I'd love to here them. I've had some good read lines.

That said things like "Your porn comic about a mom molesting the bullies of her son in order to get revenge isn't very realistic" and "Stop what you're doing because I worry about you committing career suicide" aren't exactly what I've got in mind.
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>>12064390
It might be a common trait of foxes in Zootopia to be deceptive of what their true motives are or who they actually are when no one is watching, as seen in both Nick and Charlie.

The only one who could probably be taken at face value is Gideon, who is short, stout, and may literally be on the inside what he is on the outside...which could be why he's so jarring.
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i just realized it was midnight after i asked about how to do the thing right
>>12063754
>>12063759
>>12063863
>>12063913
>>12063964
>>12064143
i'll try and get to these when i'm on tomorrow, i swear!
i'm just really tired right now.

i'm sorry, and good night
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>>12064390
remmy thought she doesn't think about stuff at all, but it turns out charlie actually overthinks them to hell and gets so worked up on anxiety and insecurity it LOOKS like she doesn't understand stuff
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>>12064220
Even if he isn't actually a pedo, TE has proven himself to be one of the biggest douchebags I've seen here in quite a while.

I'm morbidly curious if he ever joined the discord and, if he did, what happened when he revealed his hidden power level.
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>>12064430
>it not realistic
>not a valid critique
...dude
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>>12064207
You should do more finished work
It seems like most of the stuff on your DeviantArt is like sketches and just characters with some graphical shapes in the background
And just doing sketches and rough drawings will only get you so far, you should do finished pieces to practice composition and shit like that
And by finished I mean like a fully rendered piece with good composition, not like just a character with a background.
Also on the one shaded and colored character that I saw it looks like for shading you were just using a shade of the same color that was closer to black, you should try using shifts in the hue and saturation to add some temperature to the light

feel free to correct me if I said something retarded, I'm pretty tired
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>>12064462
he seems pretty chill to me
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>>12064432
Gideon grew up in a very different environment than the city and it seems like he still needed to go through therapy to work out his identity issues, if anything he might've felt more of a need to play into the whole "I'm a big mean predator" angle as a kid to justify the isolation he felt.

Charlie deffo has the same issue as Nick where she feels the sting of other peoples' prejudices and expectations of her because of her race and to some extent has decided to embrace those expectations rather than challenge them. She kept beating herself up during Transformation for being ugly and unlikeable, to the point that she fantasized about being someone else to get away from herself (and rationalized away her feelings as always by making it a work thing, the same way she rationalized her feelings about ditching Remmy as self-preservation).
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>>12064462
He hasn't joined the Discord, all the CC's their hate his ass so it's probably good he hasn't.
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That all sounds good, thanks! You're right on all those points and it's similar critique I've gotten from some friends.

I'll work harder at making full scenes and bone up on light/value.
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Hope you all have a good night, I'm going to bed.
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>>12064233
transformation actually made me wish charlie was the deuteragonist because her perspective was so refreshing to read after riding along with "ignorant sheep misses subtext constantly" for 20+ chapters, but she still managed to think herself into weird corners anyway in her own way. would be fun to see stuff through her eyes again
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>>12064207
ONe of the first things I notice from some of your inked pieces is the rapid laying down of the hatching (which is harder to replicate digitally for me) which makes your lines look a little "hairy".

It might look weird at first and feel arduous, but it'll look better if you try to carefully lay down your hatching lines one at a time. It'll make the final image more solid and finished.
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>>12064465
No, anon. It's not a valid critic. The whole premise is absurd.

If I were going for realism, the mom wouldn't be molesting the cubs to get revenge for her son.

Also there's the whole talking animals thing.

>>12064516
Do they? I wouldn't know. Haven't heard a peep in any of the streams.
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>>12064391
Oh, for sure he's never discouraging or negative. It can still be massively intimidating to have an insightful critic read your own words back to you.

I think a big part of it is the fear of unknown unknowns. Sometimes you have known unknowns, e.g. "I'm having trouble with the flow of this part, and I know Comic will comment on it and give some pointers." Those are relatively painless. What's agonizing for me is having someone make me acutely aware of my blind spots. It's super important for growth, of course, but it can still be really scary.
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I can't tell how Weaver does it, but whenever he draws Wolter or Anneke I can always seem to tell which is which even if he doesn't seem to use obvious secondary sexual characteristics or clothing to indicate who's who. I can't tell what it is.
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>>12064576
The few discussions on their about him I've seen is universal disgust, haven't looked on their in a few days though
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>>12064584
Not him
Does he give feedback on only fics or does he also do images
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>>12064572
different anon, but is it bad that I actually prefer it more when no shading was involved?
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>>12064542
I just wish he'd rotate perspectives from chapter to chapter more in general, though I would also accept more side-stories
I remember thinking maybe he'd do season two from other pack members' perspectives if Remmy was forced to go "on the lamb" to escape angry mobs, build some tension over his fate by showing how nobody knows where he's at
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>>12064629
No, it's not bad, that's just a personal preference.
But I'm making a small critique what's already been applied, so I'm going with that.
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>>12064572
Good point. Line control is an issue (as you saw) but that gif and your explanation is really helpful!
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>>12064591
eye lashes, small as they are
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>>12064622
Just written stuff, I believe.
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>>12064207
I agree with >>12064467 on making more finished pieces
It's kind of hard to get a feel for your current ability since most of your recent work is uncolored sketches, which kinf of limits the critique people can give you. That being said after looking through your art I did notice that you seem to struggle with drawing fur/hair.
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>>12064622
Maybe not images but he has worked on comics.
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>>12064591
look real close next time you see them in profile

wolter has a sliiiightly squarer snout, while anneke's is more curved, it's enough to give away who's who

also while they both have messy mohawk manes, wolter's is slightly more like the limp, greasy spikes of a careless dude, while anneke's usually has a strong single swoop going across her head
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How has there never been a picture of Charlie with her Remmy-wool blanket?
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Fun question, don't take this serious
But would weaver be considered a veteran artist? (one that is good at drawing, coloring, shading, etc)
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>>12064816
According to him, no.
Probably a specialist artist.
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>>12064816
I don't consider him an artist at all.
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>>12064816
He's a kekistan veteran
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>>12060190
Love this Waga
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>>12064762
i forgot she still has that
funny she didn't try returning that too, guess she doesn't mind *one* reminder of him
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>>12065027
She paid for it. She didn't pay for the shirt.
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>>12064762
She's wearing it here.
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>>12065027
Why return something that's your property
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>>12065119
>>12065076
Oh, it's hers to keep, so long as swaddling herself in the wool of someone she feels abandoned her doesn't bother her.

She clearly had some misgivings about Remmy in their last conversation she wasn't fully ready to talk to him about yet, so instead she mostly deflected onto how it just "makes sense" to settle their business and distance herself from him now for "self-preservation". I'm curious if this sort of denial is still in her thinking when she's alone with the blanket or if she can admit her frustration in private, or if it really does bother her so little that being wrapped in his wool is no big deal.
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I finally have a physical keyboard under my fingers, so let's see.
Well, there are not many things that I could say that other anons didn't say.
The main critique that I can move is you having many finished drawings as sketches. Not only for the general design, but also for the thickness of the lines and the way they are drawn. Instead of a continuous flow many times I saw very thick "segments", that are used in the sketch phase. I suggest trying some exercises from drawabox.com for taking more confidence in your lines.
You have a good grasp of the Zootopia anatomy, sometimes you put much less detail in the paws sometimes more, so it is harder to judge from it.
Good also on expressions on the characters.
There is however another big problem, correlated with the first one, and it is the way you draw fur. This is particularly shown on the cheeks, where they are represented, many times, as a couple of solid lines, reducing greatly the 3D effect and detail.
Refer to pic related. You should put more detail into it, with smaller lines (or enabling more pen pressure control, that let you control the size and opacity of your lines).
So, in short, it seems that you use sketchy drawings in order to hide the possible errors (since the brain in a sketch would automatically select the better lines), however this hinder your growth at a full potential. Try to complete your drawings, with a phase of drawing clean lines over the sketch, where you can add details like fur tuft.
Still, I saw your improvement and it is very good, continue like this.
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>>12064762
picture her after remmy dumped her to go hang with anneke, wrapped around her balled up blanket, wearing his shirt, taking deep breaths between wracking sobs for the trace amounts of musk clinging to them so if she screws her eyes shut tight she can pretend she's not alone and somebody's staying with her through the night to comfort her
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>>12065272

Sometimes I wonder what WOULD have happened if Remmy had texted Anneke to let her know the date was off 'cause Charlie needed looking after and just stuck with her. Did she just need another half-hour of cuddles? Would she spend the whole night wrapped around Remmy? Would she have gone back o normal afterward or changed?
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>>12065235
Excellent shit my dude. I really appreciate the feedback and I'll work on applying it to my art.
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>>12065319
They would have just talked about Pandora. Cuddling wasn't the source of comfort she was looking for
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https://piczel.tv/watch/nobby

drawing with rose, gimme some requests
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>>12065221
You know its a possibility that she could have just thrown away the blanket. No point in giving a sheep with wool a wool blanket back.
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>>12065391
Draw Rose drawing Rose
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>>12065391
Betty cooking for Remmy while Remmy is waiting in the table, drooling
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>>12065365
She was wrapped around him in a tight hug and didn't let go until he excused himself, I think it's pretty clear she wanted physical intimacy (just cuddling, not 'intimacy') as many loners find they do when faced with crisis
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>>12064207
One thing I noticed is that with a lot of newer artists, they tend to be shy about how dark or how much area their shading takes up.
Don't be afraid to use just a little bit more to be more apparent that it's there.

https://www.ctrlpaint.com/ has nice instruction on this
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>>12065397
Certainly possible, although I feel like if she did we're likely to learn about it in some future chapter, that'd be a pretty harsh signal that she's through with him if so. Conversely, if we find out she kept it, it could be a little hint about the state of her feelings toward him (that is, haven't thrown him out completely).
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>>12064614
Why do I feel this is more like the opposite of guilt by association?
Would that be innocence by disassociation?
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>>12065391
Something with proto judy and proto nick
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>>12065319
i'll tell you what wouldn't have happened - the bum's rush this chapter
if remmy had stayed with charlie while she was in crisis, she'd have stayed to walk him through this one, or might have even sought him out during the party to check how he was handling it
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>>12065391
Ageswap Nick and Judy
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>>12065391
Some Stan or smol hustlers would be good, maybe sleeping on each other?
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Oh, he's so handsome
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>>12065391
Kris x Mrs. Otterton lewds, maybe a double ended dildo with Mrs. Otterton domming?
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>>12065505
Just like in his reward poster
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>>12065486
And Anneke winds up mad with him either way, good job Remmy.
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>>12065425
Hugging and cuddling are two different things anon. Cuddling is more intimate while hugging is more for comfort. When you said cuddling, i assume you meant she wanted to get intimate, which wasn't the case
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>>12065451
That's a great example pic, thanks for making it. The specific shadow shapes and higher contrast are a DEFINITE improvement. I've probably been hiding my lack of shading skill with low contrast and vague areas of shadow so seeing it fixed here is great.
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>>12065391
Betty and Remmy in bed, after sex, Remmy smoking a cig
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>>12065391
Remmy having a dream where he is this super bulky and handsome hero bigger than Al, with pred maidens swooning over him, only to wake into cruel reality.
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>>12065391
Betty x Velvet lesbian sex
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>>12065391
Could you draw some more of Al and V?
A romantic lewd would be cool.
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I heard Rose left before and came back. Why? Not doxxor?
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>>12064816
I wouldn't say he's especially good at the things you listed, but I think he is a veteran artist in the sense that he's a master of his own niche.
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One day I will lewd everybody here.

Mark my words /ztg/!!!
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>>12065803
Those hands are not nice hands
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>>12065803
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>>12065803
Have you ever drawn lewds though?
I mean most of the things you've drawn are definitely not SFW but I think it would be hard for anyone to jack off to them
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>>12065803
lewd pelag
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>>12065803
You don't even know which CC I AM
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Ok blogpost. My friend is a lesbian, started dating this girl. My guy friend and I were hanging out and he said he just started talking to this girl and the name was uncommon so I asked him to pull up her pic and he's chatting to up my friend's gf.

So what should I do? Should i tell my friend or should we first try to get the girl to flirt / go on a date before we tell my friend anything.
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MY TARGETS
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>>12065543
Exactly the point that i feel people are missing out on when this scenario is brought up. Yes we know that Anneke didn't even want to go on the date anymore but that doesn't mean that she didn't want Remmy's company or else she would have turned him down on going to the cafe too. Even with the awful job he did at it, Remmy was still with Anneke when she was hanging her little scared freakout about going savage. She Remmy would have stayed with Charlie, then Anneke would be upset with him. Its still a situation on both sides
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>>12065997
And some others
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>>12065997
>mfw completely safe
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>>12065391
Betty dressed up as a sheep and acting like one while she's in her room.

You could have which ever P.S.er looking in on her through a window.
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>>12065997
HAH, most of them are dead, and many are not even there, including me, muhahaha
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>>12065987
Tell your friend annonymously. He deserves to know.
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>>12065803
Lewd Honey first, then we'll start talking.
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>>12065987
Tell your friend. You already have photo proof that your lesbian friend's girl is talking to your guy friend. If she refuses to believe it with just this evidence, then at least you conscience is clear that you told your friend about it
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>>12066023
no prob bro
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>>12066047
Perfect height for bun banging
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>>12065987
Sorry, iv'e always been a bit lost with this kind of stuff. Are girls and guys not allowed to talk to each other without some shit going down? I mean, if she's a lesbian then why the hell cant she talk to him?
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>>12066061
Honestly, i agree with this
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>>12065391
Betty bringing her bf Remmy home to meet her parents.
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>>12066056
>>12066034

Thanks for replying. I should have clarified, while it's a dating app, she put on her profile that she is "looking for friends." She's been normal friendly so far to my guy friend. I feel like if I show this to my lesbian friend right now the girl might just say "oh I'm just looking for friends".. should we try to flirt / trap her to prove she's cheating?
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>>12066025
Well then, forget what I said, its pointless if I do a lewd from someone who is death.
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>>12066070

If she's just wanting to be friends that's cool. But it's kinda weird to do it on a dating app?
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>>12066143
Not him but fucking dating apps get fucking flooded with people "looking for friends" so you have to keep changing them up to find whathever apps have actual people looking to fuck, I have ten dating apps and use four rn because the rest burnt down and became either bullshit or weird social media sites
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Ahhh, its already past midnight!

Greentext Theater will take place on Tuesday, 7pm PST! Join me, trashweasel, The Third Man and Mackenzie as we read your greentexts!

And if you would like your greentext read, let me know!

I'm going to go pass out.

Goodnight, magical and wonderful /ztp/ threads! I hope your pajamas are extra comfy and your pillows are properly fluffed.
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>>12065997
>>12066018
>tfw you're not on anyone's radar for lewding and you're not sure if this should make you happy to be safe or sad to be left out
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>>12066240
Goodnight bun bun
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>>12066240
Night comic, sleep tight bunner
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>>12066018
>tfw your zoosona has more hair on his head than you do
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>>12066253
Tell me who you are, anon.
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>>12066272
Prester?
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pagina tenina
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>>12066276
Sorry anon, gotta let it happen naturally. My time will come and I will know my true feelings at that time. For now I shall wait, create some content now and then, cherish the few (you)'s I get and enjoy the safety of relative obscurity.
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>>12066331
>>12066331
>>12066331
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>>12066312
This kind of attitude is really annoying
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>>12066453
Another anon in exactly the same position.
>This kind of attitude is really annoying
Possibly, but as soon as you say who you are, everyone will treat you like a dick.
>tfw
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>>12066937
Exactly this. I just wanted to say it, I don't want someone to make something for me because I asked. I want to get good or prolific enough that people just lewd me because they know I'm there or they'd enjoy doing it to see my reaction or something like that.
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>>12066982
Yep, been trying to do the same thing for a while now.
I guess I'm just not good enough yet...
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>>12066995
Don't worry anon. We're both gonna make it. One day... One day.
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>>12067002
>>>12066331
You write or draw?
(might as well run it till it dies...)
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>>12067002
Listening to some seriously chill stuff on soundcloud;
https://soundcloud.com/th-e-n-d
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>>12066008
It wouldn't be the same, here they're both mad, if he'd stayed with Charlie, only Anneke would be mad.
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>>12067013
drawfag here
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>>12067027
pretty good shit, real chill
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>>12067089
OK, I started at writing, but I'm dabbling into drawing.
>tfw not very good...
Hint, I made my own card, probably the best I can expect.
Yeah, that musics not bad.
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>>12067109
I've been thinking about giving writing a go, but judging by my attempts at writing in school I shouldn't even try. Though I guess judging by my attempts at drawing in school I shouldn't have tried that either. Maybe I'll have a go at the next 5/5 or something.
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>>12067127
I failed english in high school, but had a go.
First attempts are usually pretty bad, but if you're tough enough, send them to Comicanon for a blind readthrough.
It might feel brutal the first time, but it make you better (I think/hope).
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>>12067186
Also failed english in high school, by like 2%. Really good at reading, comprehension and spelling. Not great at what was essentially feminist critical theory and wasn't aware I was allowed to argue against the conclusions we were being told to draw
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>>12067210
I was starting to get interested in girls by that stage and just lost interest in studying.
Spent the rest of my life learning by having to talk a lot.
I also read a lot (still do)
This may interest you if still listening to soundcloud;
http://9soundclouddownloader.com/download-sound-track
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>>12067225
I'll give it a look later, gotta go eat some dinner
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>>12067237
Hows the weather in Perth?
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>>12067250
ITS RAINING SIDEWAYS
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>>12067250
At least it was for a bit
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>>12067349
I grew up in Belmont, live over East now.



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