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A moment of silence for the fallen.
>>11967601Michal Bay here, what if the Fallen get Revenge?
Midnight at the Mystic Springs Oasis Drawpile172.117.241.1Download Drawpile, join this room, make a layer, create the art
>>11967603You have a good night Anon, your taste in cool medieval stuff has been noted.
Is Aardwool crushed or is it leading up to a s i c k forgiveness arc?
Just got caught up on the Pack Street update. Is that it for the series? Kinda feels like a good point to leave off now that it's dealt with the aftermath of the Savage stuff.
https://piczel.tv/watch/nobbystill streamin with rose, I'll repost what I've done here
>>11967628Remmy's literally down and out with all the ladies right now, so every prospective arc is basically at the same place.
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>>11967634Taking any requests?
>>11967631Nah its the beginning of Season 2 appearantly
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>>11967643Seriously man bros before hoes, Wolter and Ozzy ride-or-die.
man charlie was cold, it's one thing to not want to be seen outside with him or even to burn him about how he'd ditched on her in the past, but returning the shirt? that's personal
>>11967714Like she said, its not beneficial or in her best interest to be connected to him ,especially in her line of work
>>11967765Probably also not in the best interest of Remmy to be seen with a thieving fox.
>>11967720anxious fox :(>>11967714I don't think she's completely angry at remmy but she does seem a little, kind of hard to read, maybe she just doesn't want to associate with him anymore if he's a risk?
i hate lifesingles - livedubs - die
>>11967784calm down friend
Man half of them came down on Remmy like this is somehow his fault, even Avo and Betty were basically implying like "it's on you to make this right" which is pretty shitty, fuck. Wolter and Ozzy are best.
>>11967796reroll
>>11967818shut up youre not me
>>11967822nice dubs
>>11967788She's not really angry, she just keeping him at a distance for logical reasons. Doesn't really make sense to hang out with a sheep after the whole conspiracy
Goodmorning /ztg/ whats up?>>11964975ohohohoooooooo, I go get my snacks
>>11967814Have you thought that maybe his interpretations of his situation has changed due to the events and his stress and position?
>>11967814Avo is a snarky bitch in general.Betty seemed stressed while also being totally honest with him, in a way that I don't think you should read as hateful.
>>11967720Foxxos are the softest and the bestthis is cute as hell
>>11967814Avo, yeah but Betty just said what Remmy was already thinking: hiding yourself is just gonna make things much worse in the end. She didn't say to go and make things right but to go out and show your face so people wouldn't be suspicious of you
>>11967814It's apparently not about whether he pulled the trigger on Pandora, if they thought he did that they'd probably beat the shit out of him personally.It's about all that other stuff they were talking about in the lobby before Remmy walked in. How predators were being treated in the city during the hoax, how the story was being reported afterward. The thing they're reacting to is more Remmy's place in that environment rather than him personally taking a shot at anyone.One example, he's talking to Charlie and calls the news a "bombshell". She picks up on it and points out to him that it's good news, it's only a "bomb" if he's thinking of it purely in terms of how it could impact him. They're looking for that sympathy he talked about at the end of the update rather than him turning everything that happens into something about himself, if he'd been more integrated into the community in the first place (he doesn't even think of his packmates as friends) he wouldn't be having this problem.
how the fuck did the last thread hit page 10 in just four hours
>>11967920PS update
>>11967909I very much agree with you here, and I thank you for having stronger typing skills to explain this better than me.
>>11967836Keeping him in the hall, yes, but returning the shirt I think is a slightly more personal thing. Not like someone else was going to know that was a sheep's shirt. I think on a larger level she was trying to distance herself from Remmy - that she even thought the shirt was worth returning is itself sort of a message, that she thought it could hold some sort of significance she wanted to shed.
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>>11967909>It's apparently not about whether he pulled the trigger on Pandora, if they thought he did that they'd probably beat the shit out of him personally.I think this is the big... surprise, maybe? of the chapter for me. I assumed the fallout was going to center mostly on a whodunit situation where people on Pack Street would scapegoat Remmy for what happened to Pandora, but it mostly seems grounded in more day-to-day racial tension. Remmy's in the sort of hot water that one lone white dude living in a black neighbourhood after an unprovoked police shooting would be rather than some sort of conspiracy plotline.
>>11967957fuckin RIP
>>11967948I'll worry when she returns the blanket.
>>11967957The dreaded SLOTHU ATOMIC ELBO DROP! Only hope for goat is if he can tag in some help... maybe some tiny replys can save him.
>>11967948You could think of it like that, yea. It could also be that she returned the shirt so that basically all of what she owe to him is returned so that she no longer has any obligation to the sheep, thus cutting off any connections or favors she is obligated to perform
>>11967989She paid for that blanket so she isn't obligated to return it to him. The shirt is something she owed to him
>>11968015That level of detachment isn't necessary if she's just trying to avoid associating with him, though - he's probably not about to come around asking for it. It seems to represent a larger personal commitment to separating from him.Regardless, I don't think she's completely burned him, or else she wouldn't have opened the door to keep talking to him after dropping that sick "It doesn't feel good, does it?" line. She can't be as cold to him as she thinks he was to her. I think they might patch up later but if Charlie had any feelings for Remmy at all they're pretty much buried, she's out of the race.
i should sleep before my depression sets in...nah.
>>11968035Yeah that's the point. She talked about not wanting to be seen with him and worrying about eyes everywhere but a homemade wool blanket is more of a giveaway than a t-shirt. If she got rid of the blanket even though she was under no obligation to do so that'd be when she really wants to cut Remmy out of her life, otherwise every cold night will just be another reminder of him.
>Charlie gave Remmy's shirt backCHARMY GONE UP IN FLAMES
>>11967814Basically what >>11967882 said,Betty came to him with advice and an overview of what Remmy basically already knew. She said that their relationship was cool but its the overall community that he should think about.
>>11967957It was probably Fuel that paid the slothu for this.
>>11968067>"It doesn't feel good, does it?"fuck me that line, that was cold as i-i-iceever since that chapter I was wondering what charlie really thought about remmy blowing her off and there it is, the logical professional felt betrayed
>>11968085Charmy was never viable in first place since neither of them showed romantic feelings or even any remote attraction for each other
>>11968114It's true I kiss people I'm not attracted to all the time and sometimes imagine them in sexy underwear
>>11968067>Regardless, I don't think she's completely burned himYea she didn't completely burned him which is why I'm seeing what she is doing as something logical rather than emotional. If she was emotional then she wouldn't have opened back the door or even offer him advice
>>11968114It was funny seeing how many people jumped on Charmy after Transformation. There was a lot of argument over ambiguity but I think we see the truth now.
So the situation in Pack Street reads as more like a slow burn than a race riot, nobody's breaking down Remmy's door just yet but there's definitely room for violence or bigotry down the line. He's not done patching up relations in the pack just yet and despite Betty's instructions I doubt everything's going to go as relatively smoothly as they've gone so far.
>>11968128She did, she said to just keep going instead of doing nothing.
>>11968124>It's true I kiss people I'm not attracted to all the time and sometimes imagine them in sexy underwearIts funny cause if I spit out my saliva after kissing someone that basically means I didn't enjoy it and of course if I imagined a girl in sexy underwear, its only logical that it means I want to have a relationship with her
>>11968128You can't say emotions aren't factoring in, though. Like that line about how it feels to get ditched isn't just a dispassionate observation, it's a barb, and it's kind of clear Charlie WANTED to end the conversation earlier but felt guilty about trying to stonewall Remmy. She's trying to project being logical about it, obviously, but it's papering over some actual feelings - she certainly didn't want to explain *why* she needed to return the shirt right away, beyond the vague need to not be associated with him.Basically Charlie's got more mixed feelings than she's letting on and is using "it's only logical" as an excuse.
>>11968155my money's on marty ratting remmy out to somebody outside the pack after al squashes his complaints internally
>>11968148It's kind of confusing because I could only see this being a blow to Charmy if there was anything there in the first place. Like, things like the shirt and their awkward encounter after Pandora was attacked have to have had some weight for these scenes to now matter in reverse.
>>11968191I'm not saying that emotions isn't being factoring in at all (I mean hell, her saying "it doesn't feel good, does it?" made that very clear) but everything that Charlie has done is mostly due for logical reason and self-preservation. Hostilities towards sheep is gonna really high and it makes no reason to have someone who's gonna bring her that much attention
So why was Ozzy being weird most of the chapter?
>New chapter of PS>Fuel lewding Nemo>TT in two daysSo many things...What are you looking forward in the next days from this thread, anons?
>>11968166If I like someone I make sure to never wipe my lipstick off. Also, I want to be in a relationship with all the people I find attractive, yes. This makes sense to post.
>>11968240He wasn't sure how to feelAfter seeing that Remmy's the same dude, though, he's fine with him
>>11968155>Betty assures Remmy that he'll be fine as long as he has the whistle.>Remmy gets into trouble and blows the it>It was broken the whole time
>>11968240Ozzy takes a lot of his cues from other people, especially if he's not confident himself. He wasn't sure what to think of Remmy in light of the news, so when Remmy approached him anxious and timid he also became awkward. Then, when Remmy approached him more warmly and sympathetically, Ozzy's own apprehension melted away.The dude's too mellow to hold a grudge, he just needed an opening to reconnect.
>>11968257>>11968260Remmy specifically says Ozzy seems hurt. I think there's more to this than just being a social chameleon. After all, Remmy's been dour around him before and not brought him down.
>>11968247not that anon but what does that have to do with spitting out after kissing him? If she was wearing lipstick she could have simply wiped it off. Spitting out just seems more like she didn't enjoy it.
>>11968238I think it's more accurate to say everything Charlie's done has been *rationalized* by her as being logical for self-preservation, but we've already seen before that she's not as cold and robotic as she might try to project. Separating from Remmy because he's a liability is sound reasoning, but also provides cover for any unresolved issues she has about what happened to Pandora and the fallout.We can all agree that her "appointment" the day after the news is probably to go see Pandora in the hospital, right? I don't think the cure for the Nighthowlers came out in hours after Bellwether's arrest but it's probably not too long.
>>11968276Assuming it's from the line "and wipe the taste of sheep off my lips." then 'spitting' is a pretty radical interpretation. There isn't any other instance of spitting I remember.
>>11968079 (me)this was a mistake
>>11968294I guess it depends on your interpretation of it but wiping out Remmy's taste off her lips comes off as her not enjoying their kiss, at least to me.
So did anybody parse Al's reaction to Remmy? I figured it was just him going to have a talk to Anneke about the need to suck it up for pack reasons even if she's mad, rather than also stalking off angrily. Then again the way Betty sounded it didn't seem like he was particularly fond of Remmy at the moment either.
>Why should Remmy do x? Why should he help y?>Why was Wolt being friendly if he wasn't invested?>Why why whyThis is fucking Pack 101, guys:>If you know someone needs something and it's shit you can help out with, then you do it.
>>11968322Man that's a huge stretch. She started eating, she could be wiping her lips because of that, or she's taking off her makeup on the way back home. It's not even like she had to kiss him in the first place.
>>11968339Al must be fucking kicking himself that he let Remmy into the pack then it turns out sheep are behind a giant conspiracy and everyone on the block wants to gank him. If they'd held off just a few weeks they could've thrown him to the lynch mob and be done with it, but now it's a whole manhood thing with him.
>>11968085Along with Egyptian Cotton, Aardwool, Sheepdogging, and whatever they call the Dora ship.
>>11968367>sheepdogginglol are you fucking kidding m8literally the only ship that didn't get fucking torched was sheepdog as usual, because it's the canon ship
>>11968350She specifically narrated "and wipe the taste of sheep off my lips."If it was anything else why emphasis the "taste of sheep." She could have as easily said wiping the lipstick off my lips or something else
>>11968370There is literally NO evidence for that ship. She straight up says to his face she's not interested, and was about as detached and irritated with Remmy as literally every other character. The only reason it has any traction at all is because closet barafags like to imagine the wolf with a strapon.
>>11968370As much as I like Sheepdog, even I agree that none of the girls are too keen on Remmy right now
I DO think it's a little interesting that the first mammal Remmy sought out was Charlie, even if he explained it away.
>>11968386I think every ship has been reset to 0 at this point (except for sheepdog, which was never really there to begin with). It's gonna be up to Remmy now to reconnect and try and normalized things. Once all that's done, some will still be bitter and others will warm back up to him again.
i like zootopia
>>11968372Why is that inherently negative? The lingering taste of the kiss could suggest it lingered in her thoughts, or it could just be to draw the audience's attention to an aftereffect of something significant that happened. There's not really any built-in connotation to the gesture.You are reeeaaally reading into that one idle movement.
>>11967909>It's about all that other stuff they were talking about in the lobby before Remmy walked in.I'm amazed how much of the thread doesn't seem to have understood that. They don't think he's a co-conspirator and they're not just a bunch of racists who go "wtf I hate sheep now", but people will keep imagining it that way so they can stick to the "Remmy did nothing wrong" narrative.
>>11968385>She straight up says to his face she's not interestedWhat chapter is it if you kind me asking? All I could find was this:>Looking down at my thick wool, I glance back up to Betty with a thoughtful expression. "You really don't know anything about sheep physiology, do you." >"No, I don't," she echoes, turning away from me with her prizes. "Don't particularly give a shit, either."It sounded more like she didn't care about learning about sheep
A point I noticed and I'd like to mention is that Remmy mentions having been alone since he "left home and came to Pack Street." That means he's been out of the herd not too long, and implies that his circumstances being as bad as they are is a recent development.
>>11968416That's also confirmed in the first chapter, anon>Recently, circumstances I'd rather not go into detail about right now forced me to find a new place.
>>11968345Wolter was actually the only one that fully stayed by that creed. Everyone else was overrun by emotions one way or the other. Only my iopinion, but I think he thought something like: "He's a sheep? Yes. But he's Remmy. He's our sheep. He's part of the Pack."Truly best boy.>>11968372>Transformation actually takes place after this chapter.>Everyone is trying to reconnect with Remmy except Charlie.>She now despises sheep in general.
>>11968424See, I always interpreted that to mean he left his place on, say, Flock Street and was forced into Pack Street. That maybe he had been out on his own for a while before arriving there.
>>11968430Ozzy was under stress and tried to do the right thing. He just needed some help. Don't forget.
>>11968385>closet barafags like to imagine the wolf with a straponIf that was the case then people would have flooded Nobby with request about Betty pegging him. Especially since Nobby likes big girls pegging smol guys
>>11968350>she could be wiping her lips because of that, or she's taking off her makeup on the way back homeShe specifically says she's wiping away the taste of sheep. She didn't say "I wipe my lipstick off" or even "I wipe my lips", she outright says she's wiping away the taste of sheep.>It's not even like she had to kiss him in the first place.Yes she did. It was how she preserved her cover. When she kissed him in the alley, it was just a peck on the cheek.A lot of people thought Transformation was ambiguously Charmy ship fuel but it's clear now that ship is sunk in the harbor.
>>11968430>Wolter was actually the only one that fully stayed by that creed. Everyone else was overrun by emotions one way or the other.It's pretty amazing how the whole thread fell over itself defending Remmy for blowing off Charlie, but then Charlie blows off Remmy for the exact same reason and suddenly it's unforgivable.
>>11968410Strictly speaking Remmy's done nothing wrong because he hasn't done anything, and I don't just mean the dart thing. Remmy hasn't done ANYTHING lately except exist and be inherently politically inconvenient simply by existing. The other pack members are projecting their feelings regarding the news onto Remmy and their relations with him as an outlet, and even if Betty and Al decide they've got a duty to protect him they're certainly impressing on him that he's on thin ice as a result and needs to acknowledge that to them. A lot of characters are going to be looking at Remmy to re-convince them that he's on the level because of something that happened that has nothing to do with him personally, because he's a visible representative of larger social forces who actually do pose a threat. He's guilty until proven innocent and is asked to internalize this as natural and to protest this state of affairs as a sign of ignorance.
>>11968446>>11968460Along with Egyptian Cotton, Aardwool, Sheepdogging, and whatever they call the Dora ship.No one's really happy with Remmy atm, and Betty's never once shown any kind of affection for him to begin with. Seriously, everyone likes to imagine there's this lame Tsundere character just beneath the surface, hoping Remmy senpai or some bullshit will notice her, when in actuality he's beneath her both in the pack and as a potential partner. Why in the FUCK is the beta gonna date the friggin omega? Everything she's ever directly done for him is just basic human kindness and fulfilling her role in the pack, yet sheepdoggers still like to pretend this is all part of her secret affections or some other lame shit.Hell, by all this logic AL should be in the lead.
>>11968469I'm pretty sure there were two sides arguing over the Charlie thing and now both sides are claiming victory over the new thing, threads tend not to have a single hivemind.
>>11968481Just to that last point, people really into Sheepdog almost always seem to want Al and Velvet to work out.
Whatever happens nextMarty and Remmy's next interaction is gonna be funny as hell.
>>11968469>but then Charlie blows off Remmy for the exact same reason and suddenly it's unforgivableNobody said that.All I saw was people arguing that Charmy is sunk. Obviously she was running on emotions, she tried to get "revenge" on what the sheep did. She has gone that extra mile.She knows what he is feeling and she could have decided to be understanding. Instead she decided to give him the cold shoulder (not without a reason).And I remain sad because I'm an Anneke fan.
>>11968481>Why in the FUCK is the beta gonna date the friggin omega? Because if either Betty or Al followed or even care about traditional wolf customs, why have a pack with different species, especially a prey and why follow a wolf who's engage to a deer. I'm pretty sure a Beta dating an Omega is gonna throw the PAck into chaos.No one is saying that Betty is head over heel in love with him or vice versa but saying that Betty isn't option is wrong too because both have done something beyond just pack mates (Remmy's daydream, him flirting with her, Betty blushing at the though of his dick size, her smiling when he made a lewd comment about whether she shaves down there, her teasing him about trying some lingerie on Avo's suggestion, her basically catcalling him everytime he sees her). These things surpass her just being Beta and fuel the ship just like how some interactions fuel Aardwool, Charmy, and RemDora
>>11968532>I'm pretty sure a Beta dating an Omega is gonna throw the PAck into chaos.I meant to write "not gonna throw"Sorry
>>11968514>And I remain sad because I'm an Anneke fan.same, it's a bit of a burnBUT it's only the first chapter and it hints at a longer arc with Annie so I'm very excited for thatIn regards to Charlie I think that she's just a little emotional right now but Charmy isn't sunkLike other anons said, a lot of things are essentially back to zero but it's a weird zero. Like zero + whatever Remmy has done to them. Like "he/she will remember that"s in a Telltale game coming back to haunt you. And I think that's gonna be the fun of season 2 as well as the source of most of the dramaAlso I think people should focus on how sweet Wolt and Ozzy are and Remmy even calls them friends at the end of the chapter! It's great
>>11968532>Remmy's daydreamYou mean the one he had about her? Which she in no way reciprocated?>Him flirting with herGonna need some evidence for that that isn't stretching the definition of 'flirting.' Even then, still no affection from her.>Betty blushing at the though of his dick sizeBecause she needs to have feelings for him to get excited by the thought of a big dick. Avo was blushing too, last I checked. Egyptian Cotton confirmed?>Teasing him about trying on lingerieYou mean that scene where she was taking IMMENSE pleasure in taunting him about his closet sexual preferences, actively taking sadistic glee in his misery and humiliation?>Her basically catcalling himLike when she snaps her jaws at him to get a rise out of him, taunting him and flinging insults every time she walks by her stoop?Seriously, she gets a LOT of entertainment and glee out of making the ram suffer.
>>11968560It is confirmed: Wolter is best girl.
>Annake turned total prey-hate, running away from Remmy.Why thank you Weaver, go ahead and tear my heart while you're at it
>>11968581He's no Rex but he's a damn fine second place.
>>11968598No, she's still very hurt, not hating.
>>11968560Yeah, Anneke is gonna need some time to recover, but I see it feasible.Charlie, I'm not so sure. She is probably one of the characters most easily swayed by emotions and it is dangerous because she doesn't know it herself. Various times in the previous chapters (and now) she seems cold and calculating, but every time she shows emotions she doesn't acknowledge it.At first she looked at Remmy from a distance, but she seemed not to have many preconceived ideas about sheep, so she had the possibility to warm up to him. But now she seems to despise him for being him AND being a sheep, and she probably doesn't realize it completely.I saw Marty being nominated for it many times here, but if someone is gonna throw Remmy under a bus it is probably her.>>11968602Rex numbah two, Wolter numbah one!
>>11968623We'll see next episode when they hit up the bug burga and Rex saves Remmy from a vamp! Or maybe from a really bad meal, you never know.
>>11968605hurt over what? Their not-date wasn't any good, but at a situation like that, I don't think Remmy is to blame for not being able to comfront someone.All in all, she shouldn't ignore him unless, she doesn't trust him anymore.
>>11968563>You mean the one he had about her? Which she in no way reciprocated?How can she reciprocate if she didn't even know about it.>Gonna need some evidence for that that isn't stretching the definition of 'flirting.' Even then, still no affection from her.His comment about her being a "nature girl down there" got a toothy smile out her. She could just have easily gave him a face of disgust or cursed him out.>Because she needs to have feelings for him to get excited by the thought of a big dick. Avo was blushing too, last I checked. Egyptian Cotton confirmed?I'm not saying this is proof that she likes him. I'm merely stating that this is an erotic though she had about the sheep. Take that as you will>You mean that scene where she was taking IMMENSE pleasure in taunting him about his closet sexual preferences, actively taking sadistic glee in his misery and humiliation?You say that as if the other girls didn't do the same thing to him at other points in the story. Every girl to some extent has humiliated or taken pleasure in Remmy's misery at least once and people still ship them. Why shouldn't Betty?>Like when she snaps her jaws at him to get a rise out of him, taunting him and flinging insults every time she walks by her stoop?If you taking about her calling him "fluff" or "yarnball" as insults, then everyone is pretty much guilty of that. Plus, if you read the latest chapter, Remmy has deemd them "terms of endearment" which means that they were not insults to him, at least not after the first time>Seriously, she gets a LOT of entertainment and glee out of making the ram suffer.Again, everyone has done that to some extent and people are still shipping them
Give me Nick and nobody gets hurt.
>>11968668Sorry, Judy asked for him first
>>11968635>How can she reciprocate if she didn't even know about it.You answered your own point there. IT was Remmy's daydream, not hers. How it indicates in any way she has affection for him is beyond me.>His comment about her being a "nature girl down there" got a toothy smile out her.Because you can't get a laugh out of lewd stuff. The fact that he was brazen enough to ask that got a chuckle out of me too. She COULD have gotten offended, but she laughed instead. Because it was funny. Doesn't mean she's getting ready to reverse-mount his ass.>Because just like Avo, she just had a erotic though about him and though about his dickYou're absolutely right. She had an erotic thought about a male's penis. Incidentally, if you've fapped to a porn star ever, it means that you've got an affectionate connection to this one that borders on the romantic.>You say that as if the other girls didn't do the same thing to him at other points in the story.I'll give you that point. EVERYONE has taken Remmy through the ringer. Still doesn't change that fact that her lingerie comments were squarely aimed at making him squirm.>>11968658You seem to have repeated yourself there friendo.
>>11968636She's like 21 and just found out that someone she may have had feelings for is a part of a group of people that have deliberately caused her to feel constant fear for the loss of her identity and sanity for the last few months or soShe's feeling betrayed and confused, she's probably projecting that onto Remmy. It doesn't make sense, but it's not supposed to. It's supposed to be irrational, and irrational anger usually gets solved in stories.
>>11968668Here you go, anon.>>11968683But this is good too.
>>11968474You're wrong. Remmy has been a shitty person to all of his neighbors nonstop and now the birds are coming home to roost.
>When you want to sleep and are doing basically okay, but the new chapter makes you feel bad even if it's great quality writing.Friends help.
>>11968710Not non-stop. He's been maddeningly flip-flopping from asshole to normal guy depending on the scenario. Which is kind of worse in a way.
>>11968716Perhaps a sleepyhead can help?
>>11968685I changed some of the grammar around cause it looked like i made alot of them, my bad. The point I'm trying to make isn't that Betty love him or even that she likes him and wants to fuck but to say that Sheepdog is out the race or shouldn't even be considered a viable shi is wrong. Utimately, we can agree to disagree since we both have different interpretations and none of them will ever be answered
>>11968716Everything will be fine eventuallyGo to sleep, anon. You need it and deserve it
>>11968722>It's so easy for you to love me when everything's good.
>>11968735Yes.Ugh.
>>11968685not that anon but alot of this is basically speculation just like the other anon's points. Unless you can provide facts to some of this stuff, I don't see why shipping Sheepdog is a big issue when alot of speculations can be brought out for different ships as well.
>>11968777Mostly it was just for the sake of being contrarian and stirring up debate. It's been a long night for me, and having something to discuss, even I don't feel particularly strong about my side, was entertaining.At the end of the day, I think sheepdog is about as viable as any of the other ones. My whole point was that everyone's kind of on a level playing field right now, and I'll add that we've barely even seen what's happening with season 2.
This thread is making me realize how many people that post here have no concept of empathy.That even once person was unironically saying Remmy did nothing wrong blows my mind.
>>11968245Boner_M updating RCF
>>11968690Yeah but that's what bothering me.Her fears, her questining her own identity and sanity was justified based on the informatio she had. It's what made it so relatable and understandable.She suddenly show so much irrational distrust towards a guy she has NO proof is involved in something is frustrating.
>>11968690>>11968797>She's so irrational!>Irrational anger>Irrational distrustIs Remmy writing these?>distrust towards a guy she has NO proof is involved in something What the fuck?? Do you think Anneke is mad because she thinks Remmy was part of the conspiracy?
>>11968793oh, ditto.Nathan grew into one of my fav OCs. I really want to know what will happen to him, since he was completly left out from the final chapter, like he is already certain to die from his injuries.
>>11968792An important thing here is that this is still fiction that's about walking, talking animals but people bring in their own thoughts based on what's happened to them, and it's easy to pretend like everything in the story has a direct analog to real life, when it's totally not like that.
>>11968813>What the fuck?? Do you think Anneke is mad because she thinks Remmy was part of the conspiracy?It feels like half this thread skipped over everything that was said in the lobby before Remmy came out.
>>11968824That's a fancy way of saying people are projecting onto Remmy, but Remmy is really not the guy you should see yourself in.
>>11968791It was a fun discussion indeed anon. I like to discuss and debate things and bring points and speculation into light. I agree that every ship is viable until the end but most of my reason for arguing is that sheepdog shouldn't just be ruled out. It funny actually cause I ship RemDora a bit more than Sheepdog
So, Jay, what did you think of Walt Disney Animation Studios' 'Zootopia'?
>>11968814I liked Nathan too. Conflicted because I'd like him to survive but then I think RCF needed some important character deaths. If Weaver came out of hibernation I'd love for RCF to as well.
>>11968831It's more than people projecting themselves onto Remmy. They're also seeing Remmy's situation in this warped fashion, not quite realizing how much the ram's perspective biases things. Even reading into minor details problems that aren't there.
>>11968813>Do you think Anneke is mad because she thinks Remmy was part of the conspiracyIt feels like that a LOT. Their "not-date" ended with the agreement that neither of them is in the right state of mind/ mood for it, and they should try it another time. Her not even saying a word to Remmy feels like she doesn't trust him anymore.Unless she got emberassed from realizing that Remmy must've heard her bad-mouthing the prey populi of Zootopia. But Remmys comment should've given away that he is not mad or anything.
I don't think it's as enjoyable as Boyhood, Jay.
Can I get really real here?How many sheep do you think were raped, murdered, assaulted, or otherwise fucked up after Bellwether's conspiracy ended?
>>11968853>It feels like that a LOT.Then re-read it, but better.
>>11968826Oh no I personally never though that Anneke was mad at him because of that. Any affection she has (if there ever was any to begin with) for the sheep is currently gone. Whether its temporary or not, only time will tell
>>11968862>How many sheep do you think were raped, murdered, assaulted, or otherwise fucked up after Bellwether's conspiracy ended?A lot fewer than the number of preds that were raped, murdered, assaulted, or otherwise fucked up before Bellwether's conspiracy ended, probably.
>>11968853>But Remmys comment should've given away that he is not mad or anything.Oh wow, does he forgive her?? Whoa holy shit, he's so gracious! She's really lucky that he's willing to forgive her after all that, phew!
>>11968866Anon, it's not a contestBesides, in Zootopian history there's probably nobody that's had it worse off than the rodents and other really small mammals.
>>11968864>Then re-read it, but better.I don't think that fair anon, if that's his speculation then let it be until the time comes.She could have had her own suspensions that she's just keeping to herself when the group was chatting in the lobby. She could have said one thing but though something else
>>11968862I think definitely at Ieast some assaults and bullying. Betty bringing up the whistle makes me think something is going to happen and Remmy might have to use it.But maybe not everyone will answer the call.
>>11968864Annake is pissed off by prey pretending that everything is normal, at the prey that "spat" on predators.On their date Remmy did nothing that sort of thing, so why should she be angry at Remmy in specific? Everyone is saying bad stuff about how speciest Remmy is, with "must be a predator thing", but if Annake looks at him like that because of the things OTHER prey animals did, what makes her better?
>>11968864Why is she mad, then?I'm not saying she thinks that he's a part of the conspiracy. I'm saying that she's blending her feelings towards that with her feelings towards him. But, and I guess I'm being a Remmy apologist here, he literally did not do anything wrong. Hell, her comments about prey sweeping things under the rug don't even become valid with him until she leaves the room
>>11968892At the dinner Anneke is scared of how it must feel to lose yourself, forget your loved ones and hurt them without thinking when going savage.Remmy on the other hand tells her, yeah, that sucks, he totally scared of being attacked, but it's totally ok with Marty or something since he can fend them off."It doesn't happen to prey." shows he can't empathize with her when she needed it.
>>11968892Anneke being in the wrong as well doesn't make Remmy necessarily in the right, even a bit.This doesn't make Remmy evil or anything, though, but if you look at what he actually said when he walked down the stairs the words are cringe inducing .
>>11968894>Why is she mad, then?Because Remmy's flaws, previously ignored or even dismissed, are now cast into a much harsher light by the new understanding of events passed, and the context of a larger awareness of the city's sociopolitical state.
>>11968881you are twisting my words out anon. I didn't say 'forgive', as even Remmy probably knows that there is nothing to forgive. As far as I can tell, Remmy probably understands her feelings, he just wishes that Ann wouldn't cast her into a group with the rest of the prey, which she seemingly did...you could call that "irony of life", I just didn't expect that from Annake
>>11968845I really miss these guy's in depth reviews, just no interest in their short stuff. Hope they go back to it some day.>>11968847More RCF would be amazing.
>>11968907Yeah, okay. I can see that.
>>11968884I really wonder how many predators would look a blind eye to the reprisal attacks. They've got a painful situation given that standing up for a sheep, even if they absolutely want to, would kill their status among their more racist friends. And the hardcore racists who feel determined to get some kind of a sheep no matter would probably immediately attack a defender as a traitor too.
Friendly:>Ozzy>Betty>Wolt
>>11968942Yea pretty much
>>11968942Remmy's such a drain though, Wolt and Ozzy had to go out of their way to make sure he feels super welcome.
Wut
>>11968942Betty isn't so much friendly as she is a devoted Beta who takes her role as guardian of the pack deeply seriously.
Okay, but listen...Slozzy.
https://piczel.tv/watch/nobbyay gimme quick requests, ill be goin for a bit more
>>11969214Ozzy's default setting is happiness and wanting all of those around him to enjoy themselves, though.Asking him to stop shining on the crazy diamond is silly.
Think nick/Judy/Judy is the new thing with Japanese CCs right now
>>11969231/r/ Party Mouse
>>11969231Charlie whoring Remmy out.
>>11969231charliexwolter comfy
>>11969231A cat couple
>>11969231aardwool
>>11969232That can be pretty unhealthy mentally
>>11968906idk, he tried to play it off as a joke, while accepting that he is sometimes an asshole. Everyone is so hating on Remmy, while one of the main lessons of Zootopia itself is that non of us is perfect, and the point in life is to try better ourselves. You can only fix yourselfs if you acknowladge your flaws.>>11968907Remmy's irrational fear of getting mauled by predators and Annake's irrational fear of going savage both stem from the same thing -> Bellwheter's plot.With that lifted, she should think that his fears will be lifted too, instead she acts like it was his fault.Both predatory and prey were victims of this plot both were just pawns in the powergame.As much as she is rightfully mad and prey acting like the only victims, she is just as bad if she acts as Remmy's fears were not justified. They were at the time, based on what they knew
>>11969231More Anneke would be nice, be her sadly drinking a coffee in a Sahara Square bar or being sexy in lingerie
>>11969233>threesome
Can someone repost Bates' Finnick from last thread and the cute like 90s style anime Martina attempt by someone
>>11969263Remmy's not Hitler. He's just a guy who fucked up his first after Bellwether meetings with preds.
>>11969279And most of the pre-Bellwether meetings.
>>11969279But I'm asking "with what did he fuck it up?"With a jab at himself?What, he should've rolled over and apologized for beliveing Bellwether's plot? They all did, only predators feared themselves. And Remmy did everything to connect with them, with Annake despite his own fears.
>>11969221There is a reason why Remmy asked:>"Are we -- are we good? Like, the two of us, I mean?"After she finished explaining the Pack's current situation with him.He meant it if him and her are good personally, as in outside the whole Pack ordeal
>>11969263>Remmy's irrational fear of getting mauled by predators and Annake's irrational fear of going savage both stem from the same thing -> Bellwheter's plot.Even if you want to argue that his fears were justified, the way he handled them, expressed them, and used them to change the way he treated others was certainly not.
>>11969305It would've been bad no matter what. He probably should've apologized for being standoffish at best in the past, said that he's so glad that the truth is revealed, and asked to hang out with them, maybe. The "joke" though was pretty terrible as he needed to start off with total sincerity. He shouldn't have brought up the weather.Look, fuck, it wasn't a good situation.
>>11969263>Both predatory and prey were victims of this plotNot even in remotely equal amounts.
>>11969327Agreed.And this kind of goalpost moving is a large part of why the rest of the Pack feels so pissed off.
>>11969305>And Remmy did everything to connect with themNo he absolutely did not. How can you read chapters 1-22 and think "well, he did everything he could"?
>>11969320what, did he went to peace rallies telling preds to fuck back off to the forest? Or did he live beside them, taking attempts to learn about their culture and befriend them.Don't misunderstand me, the guy is not perefect, I'm not saying he deserves a fucking medal of something, I'm just saying he doesn't deserve this whole shitting on him either.
>>11969253
>>11969274You mean the Rose version of Nikolu's Martina?
>>11969337>And this kind of goalpost moving is a large part of why the rest of the Pack feels so pissed off.Not to mention "but what about sheep???">>11969340>Or did he live beside themNot by choice. He hated it, wanted to move out, and said he never would have come here if he knew better.>taking attempts to learn about their culture Only when it was kicking his ass>and befriend themAlmost never.Remmy has been a piece of shit and >>11969338
>>11969327Bellwether used predators as weapons and fellow prey as scapegoats. Who do yout think the victims of the maulings were? She had to get prey FEAR predators. To get that she had to create prey victims, like that moose mauled by the polar bear.
>>11969345>>11969345Charlie's adorbs
>>11969345Smol thief
>>11969345This is so cute thanks Nobbo!!!
>>11969231Something with Remmy and Wolter
>>11969340Here's just one example:During the dinner, they're both scared that someone they know will go savage. Thus, like you said, they both believe Bellwether's lie. So why is Remmy blamed more than Anneke?Because, for Anneke, that fear manifests as "what if I or someone I know goes savage? Will they be okay? What even happens? How do you live with that fear?"For Remmy, it manifests as "At least if Marty went savage I bet I could take him."Both are facing the same lie. Remmy's response is, as it ALWAYS is, selfishness and lack of empathy. He's only concerned about how it might endanger him, and shows no compassion for others. The idea of Al going savage is scary to both of them, but Remmy doesn't give a shit about Al in that scenario.
>>11969340He's in the pack, he's safe, and he's been given an explicit endorsement to go about life as normal from the Beta.It's not as if he's been totally cast out and forgotten.Fuck, don't forget he still has the whistle. The entire rest of the Pack is obligated to protect him like a family member. That's fucking huge.
>>11969355It's like you're expecting Remmy to get a medal for not being racist, though.
>>11969375Yeah, I keep seeing this sentiment of "REMMY DOESN'T DESERVE THIS TREATMENT!" but what the fuck has he gotten that's so insufferable?Anneke left the room. Big fucking whoop. She didn't even say anything to him.Nobody was even being mean to him. At worst, Charlie was slightly passive-aggressive but still gave him advice.Why are so many people talking like he was shoved down and beaten unconscious in the lobby?
>>11969351I'd love to see them stream together and makes some real kawaii shit
Does anybody else fear that this will happen:>Remmy goes into the neighborhood and encounters a predator that he doesn't know or barely does.>The predator does something that looks scary and threatening but has jack shit to do with Remmy. Maybe drops a heavy box that he's carrying and makes a loud growl. Or misses a step on a stair and falls onto somebody else.>Remmy interprets this ambiguous situation as an attack and freaks the living fuck out.>Remmy makes it way worse. He acts like he's being attacked, and it just draws attention.
>>11969374>Remmy doesn't give a shit about Al in that scenario.or OR he just somewhat tried to see and bring up small positive thing in the shitstorm of bad things. (an encounter with someone going savage is survivable) I don't think Remmy hasn't thought about it that 99% of the time, he would end up dead, and you can preach about emphaty, but if you would live in his shoes without knowing who can turn savage and kill you at any corner, I don't know how much you could think with the head of predators.All theses anon with the, "Remmy is shit and is at fault with everything" are speaking of the high-horse of KNOWING WHATS ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. Remmy did not.
>>11969414Yeah and then Remmy will blow his whistle and assemble an annoyed pack
>>11969387>I'm not saying he deserves a fucking medal of something, >>11969340
>>11969420>The boy who cried wolf
>>11969420Jesus fuckI can totally see Weaver writing this, and it would make me want to strangle Remmy myself even though I broadly feel for the guy
>>11969420How can he blow a whistle that's left in his drawer?
>>11969442>Remmy breaks down crying and sobbing
>>11969267
>>11969464You cheeki breeki.Saved.
>>11969231Gideon and bogo sex
>>11969211>>11969233Whos the amazing artists of the images?
>>11969517https://mobile.twitter.com/ichi__owo/status/917675781400096768/photo/1https://mobile.twitter.com/1015_zi/status/917674770912632832/photo/1
>>11968882Considering the Rodents live as client/slaves to the Skaven living underneath Zootopia I’m inclined to agree.
Please someone shuld lewd vrbit with terry
>>11969793All hail horned rat.
>>11969833
>>11969977Psst or should i post lewd images of you?
i absolutely hate everything i've been drawing lately
>>11970007So I lose whether I speak or I stay silent?But you will see.Soon(ish).>>11970012I understand that feeling.But remember pic related.
>>11970012Keep drawing until you hate your art a little bit less.
>>11970059>So I lose whether I speak or I stay silent?>But you will see.>Soon(ish).What will you do?
>>11969977it doesn’t look good, try redrawing it
>>11970074how about I try redrawing your mouth using my dick
>>11970100I know it terry is a lewd mongoose!
>>11968245Where's the pic of Fuel lewding Nemo?
>>11970134>>11969635
Good thing that I never lewd anyone, now I would be safe throughout this silly war of yours
>>11970173No!
>>11970181Yes!
>>11970190You will see!
>>11970074Don't care, it is a sketch, an old drawing and it is more than enough for its purpose.>>11970120That wasn't me
Are there sides in this lewd war, or is it an all out free-for-all?
>>11970200You don’t want to or you can’t?
Boney keeps turning Sleazy into a sexual SCP/Eldritch thing, and I gotta say...It's kind of hot.
>>11970248Sleazy can now lewd people in ways that shouldn't be possible on this mortal coil.
>>11967814Seems like most of them were pissed that he gave up on them like he couldn't trust them.
>>11969464how lewd
technically not ztg related, but I was doodling some of rose's characters too and thought yall'd like em
>>11970345Very nice, thanks for sharing dude!
>>11970345Damn Nobby, this is pretty hot.Also, you've been going for like 10 hours.
>>11970345This makes everyone happy
>>11970345>technically not ztg relatedwill be par for the course for the next week or so
>>11970248Lately Boney is turning everything into eldritch, I now expect a story about eldritch beings from him for Halloween
hmmmm..... boys
Damn the threads straight up died after that PS update.
>>11970672It's like when there's a massive party and then everyone wakes up the next morning tired as fuck.
>>11970672I mean everything major has already being discussed but I'm sure with the day crew waking up and realizing that there's an update, the same discussions will repeat again but with different anons. It's pretty much the usual for every PS update until the end of the week.
>>11970672PS general will wake up in a few hours.
>>11970568I'd ask him to poke more at the idea, because I find it really interesting, but I owe him so many draws and a story that I don't have any right to ask him for anything.I owe him so much content, he could probably legally seize all my assets and enslave me as his personal foot stool.
>>11970744>stoat enslave yeen as his personal foot stoolYou want this, don't you?
>>11970706Not to sound like a shitstirrer but that's really the most annoying part is having repeated discussions over and over. I get that it's different people contributing their input but its pretty much gonna be the same input cause we all read the same thing
I've never been here for a PS update and the thread was going wild. Has any other CC or work gotten that kind of hype?
>>11970778When this happens I pretend im on reddit and it's just their usual circlejerking
>>11970778Well, I suppose just scroll past it, you know? Maybe think of new convo to start, or create some content.
>>11970778That's understandable>>11970794This is unintelligible
>>11970783Don't think so, No.
>>11970783Mead with JiD, sometimes Boney with ARCF, some of Reply's biggest conics
Bin thinking about straight Nick lads. Totally no homo over here.
>>11970812Bunanon updates too
>>11970812Eeeh. Maybe Boney or Reply I'd believe but that shit was crazy anon. We had 90 posters and hit page 10 in four hours.
>>11970812Don't forget Borba
>>11970833Not even close, dude.
>>11970797That sounds like a good idea but most likely the convo will be lost in the sea of debates. Hell, I had to go back just cause I missed some of Nobby's drawing from his stream.
>>11970818Yes, I forgot, thanks anon>>11970820Yes, I know, but I have been here since the beginning and similarly crazy things happened. And how could I forget the thread that broke 1000 replies in the few hours that 4chan new thread button was down
>>11970816Is it even possible to have straight thoughts when thinking about Nick?
Hope the thread gets that crazy when Zoot2 is official
>>11970778hello shitstirrer
>>11970901Judy.Checkmate
>>11970901YesI'm doing it now
I hope another CC comes along and brings that kind of energy with their work.
>>11969274
>>11970758...Well, that would explain why I keep procrastinating with drawing his stuff.
Weaver would put out a guilt trip chapter on the day where I do something worthy of being guilty about. Stop narrating my life, you don't know me!
>>11970783Not really, and it's a fucking shame. I make a point of talking about and critiquing and promoting it, but it's comes down to a difference in volume, at the end of it. I get that worldbuilding beyond the characters and settings of the movie is popular, but it's a bit disheartening that an intentionally ambiguous slice of life story is the one thing the thread decided to focus on. It doesn't evoke zootopia for me, I dunno.
>>11970537so much filtering..at least the threads are alive i guess
>>11971059It's like a reverse Dunning Kruger effect. Somehow Weaver's convinced everybody else he's not low quality shit.
>>11970989i want him to bend over and smooch the yeen on his big ol nose
>>11967814Well Avo and Betty were killed by savage Pandora so I can understand why they would be mad. And Anneke and Charlie an heroed because of it too.
https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-get-zootopia-merchandise-back-on-store-shelves?recruiter=761544130&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_content=nafta_copylink_message_1%3Amessageoh boy oh boy oh boy.cant wait for zootopia to be popular!
>>11971059It's more akin to Weaver promoting it through interesting side content, porn, shipping, deepest lore little comics and having a more in depth central content. It also attracts tons of great CCs such as Nobby, Otterly, Boney and Middry which help on making it even more involving for people, even if through unofficial content. Complaining about it is a bit like getting angry at wynn for the amount of RineViolet stuff in the thread.
>>11970812whats jid and arcf? sorryalso any other big comics for zoot? things just happen is on my list to read already.
>>11971106I don't want them back on the shelves. They didn't sold because they were shit and mostly ugly, offmodel, and unrelated to the movie.I want zoot merch, but new one that actually makes sense.Like... where the fuck are my zootopia limited editions figurines of Nick and Judy, disney? WHERE?
>>11971172i still find plushies in local claw machines. and that's it.
>>11971147Judy is a Dickgirl (mead futashit comic) and Artificial Rabbit children in Fox (boney_m mpreg shit).
>>11971059I think PS is especially successful for a bunch of different factors:One is yes partly because of the volume, there's a lot to immerse yourself in once you make the PS jump.Two, Weaver is just a good storyteller and artist.Stories and characters are relatable to target audience. Also, harems are appealing and there are many characters, so you're likely to find at least one to be bestgirl/boy for you.This is big, he's able to reach the audience with both story and art. Most CCs can only do one or the other. And since his art is more simple, he can produce more and a lot faster than CCs who can only produce a few comic pages every now and then.
>>11971236>Weaver is just a good storyteller and artist
>>11971136>>11971143>>11971151>>11971180Source?
>>11971257100% jelly
>>11971236>Stories and characters are relatable to target audienceSpeak for yourself>harems are appealingSpeak for yourself
I'm still kinda shocked that it actually happened. I still haven't fully processed that yes, Pack Street did finally update.
>>11971297I know. I haven't looked at it yet because I still can't believe it.
>>11971297Me too. Feel like breaking hiatus even if busy as fuck.
>>11971267Of the adoration he gets from people like you? Hardly.
>>11971232oh. yikes nevermind.
>>11971267>>11971309Saltier than the Dead Sea.
>>11971318>That was a joke, you dip
>>11971099The hell are you talking about?
>>11971094I need to add more tubes to my collection.Maybe I should set my sights on Teabro or that serial licker.
>>11971349listen man. listen. i am retarded, alright? you gotta keep this in mindi wouldnt but it below this place anyway
>>11971364are you the fucking perhabs anonill fucking gut you
>>11971147Judy is Dead comic by Mead, a Rabbit clan's fox by Boney_ M, both excellent
>>11971147Judy is dead, comic that you can see on Mead Tumblr, already finished.A rabbit's clan fox, story by Boney, you can see the first season on ao3>>11971059For me it is one closest to the movie, for two reasons.First, in almost every chapter you can see a part of Zootopia, be it fish taco stands or a mammals gym.Second, like the movie, the city is the background. Weaver doesn't say "look at this tipical Zootopia thingy!" but he blends it seamlessly into the world. But the city is still important, because those interactions and story couldn't happen in other settings
>>11971378...Perhabs
>>11971378i dont know who that is i just wanted to read a comic
>>11970968tfw your work doesn't have energy
>>11971257>>11971283Speak for most of the thread*Just check this and the previous thread.
>>11971478It's not up for a vote.
>>11971423Take a lesson from these guys!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11quU3nqkVE
I seem to be lacking reaction image of sad and disappointed of Nick and Judy. preferably from the movie. fanart is ok. Help an anon out?
>>11971389>those interactions and story couldn't happen in other settingsDisagree. Most of the interaction happens in An Apartment through the eyes of An Awkward Guy. It's a valid storytelling choice, but to me, zootopia is very much in the background. There's nothing there to remind me of the unique city.
>>11971513
>>11971478Allow me to define "lowest common denominator"
>>11971530
>>11971538
>>11971551
>>11971565
>>11971423Hang in there.
>291010>(Nick*Judy*Jude)I swear, Nick getting all these bunnies...Or is it Judy getting her fox and another version of herself?
>>11971578What a cute bun.
>>11971582What if one of the Judy's is actually Nick because he can't get enough of himself and his cute ass.
Anneke seems the maddest but also seems like she might be the quickest to come around after she gets the chance to vent and Remmy manages to say or do anything to appease her.Al probably sees Remmy's situation as more work and obligation on him and is trying to keep a lid on his resentment and bitter racial feelings but I assume Remmy'll eventually misstep in a way that'll cause those to bubble up anyway.Avo seems at least basically satisfied with him but also seems like she's done with him until further notice, I don't think Remmy can do much there except wait for her to warm up on her own again.Betty still seems to care but also seems to share Al's weariness and wariness. I think she's a little more sympathetic than she's letting on, and even if she chews him out a bit later when he inevitably fucks up I don't think she'll hold any genuine ill will against him.Charlie is probably the hardest nut to crack since she's obviously got some personal reservations that she's trying to suppress. I don't think she's going to admit how she feels outside of little jabs, especially considering how she seems hurt over how the last time she opened up to him went, so I don't know how they clear the air unless something external happens.Wolter and Ozzy are obviously now the coolest characters in Pack Street ride or die bros 4 lyfe.
>>11971614Then he would just be Jack.
>>11968854But Mike, nothing's EVER taken twelve years to make!
>>11971582Poor Nicky...
>>11971646Its a straight Nick appreciating himself. If it would be jack, then it'd be a gay Nick.
>>11971754who drew it?
>>11969327>>Both predatory and prey were victims of this plot>Not even in remotely equal amounts.This. If anything, prey actually now have it way worse than the predators did because there are so many more of them. What was it Bellwether said in the movie? They outnumber them something like nine to one?
>>11971794Visitilou
>>11971813what a nonsensical arrangement of consonants and vowels
>>11971783Is that Jack or Jill? I can't tell.
>>11971779>no tail poor vixen indeed
>>11971810That was prey outnumbering the preds, anon.They certainly don't have it worse as the majority population.
>>11971842yes
>>11971842I am almost positive it is based on a greentext with Jill.
>>11971514Well, looking at such a broad generalization you can remove the setting on everything. One can say, in the same way, that Zootopia is in general a buddy cop movie where the protagonists learn not to always judge on appearances.For me it is the details: like Nick sniffing the air or the little doors of mice's home everywhere I saw a myriad of details that wouldn't happen anywhere else, like the hooves grips or the little feral behaviors or the different greetings depending if you are a hoofer or not... But this is only my opinion and maybe I'm only a sucker for little things like these.>>11971754When did VisiTi draw this?
>>11969438>the boy who cried out wolfThis is what sheepdoggers actually believe
>>11971513sad on the inside
>>11971830la li lu le lo
>>11967620secret message on top right
oh man, that stream was like 13 hours. I think I got some decent stuff with that oneanyways I took a 2 hour nap and a shot so I think I'm goodevens: take quick requestsodds: oberwadge
>>11971857I agree with you on details! My point is I haven't seen much of them in pack street, so the feel of zootopia just isn't there
>>11971962Might be different way of readings then, because for me there are a lot: the different sizes in cars, the hunger for real fish and real cheese, the eternal sloth volleyball play, the little things like the clacking of hooves on the road, shearing (like just in this chapter, how Remmy describes his wool in a way like an human would describe hair), using sinks to wash smaller mammals... I could continue on and on.Obviously it can be like a movie, in which you can put these details in the background AND continue with the story, otherwise you lose pacing, so there are pieces where you can't put the background, for the sake of the story. But, every time they are walking around around Pack Street (also one of the reason I look forward for the next chapter) I get the right feeling, I say: this is Zootopia. A low-income, pred dominated street, but it is Zootopia.But, like I said, it might be different ways of reading, different people tend to focus on different things, so the final impressions can be different.
>>11972102Y is sad
>>11972127I bet he thinkin of all that bune puss he ain't gettin right now
>>11972102>tfw your bun gf edges you all night and doesn't let you finish at all
>>11972127had to grill his own cheese
>>11972147i heard bunny piss and i thought wtf would nick like that because piss is basically where the pheromones of bunnies and blood impurities go and thought of nick lapping it from her urethra hahai mean it would be kinda weird haha
>>11971353Savage Pandora killed Avo and Betty at the store, and Charlie and Anneke couldn't handle it thanks to Remmy being a complete fuck-up. But they were all back to life and things kept going on because no one really dies since they're in purgatory.
>>11972102This is fuel's work, right?
>>11970221Dude don’t make this personal, if he doesn’t want to then respect his decision. What’s your problem dude?
>>11972215>If he doesn't want to then respect his decisionOr scream autistically about it over dozens if not hundreds of posts. His choice.
>>11972192Tbh I can't believe so many people haven't seen that Mini at all yet. Weave didn't announce it but it's RIGHT THERE
It just now occured to me that people who didn't read the Pastebin version never got to experience the April fool's chapter.
>>11972237Because it seems like you never felt bad about someone criticizing your work, if you even do something, I understand your lack of empathy. Think however that not everyone is like you and even if it’s frustrating for you to watch a_sig post „not-perfect“ drawings he will some day do the opposite. Till then though let him have a little fun, will ya?
Morning? No, eternal night172.117.241.1Download Drawpile, join this room, make a layer, create the art>>11971936Surprise will be left for the last posting
>>11972374We seem to have got our wires crossed. My general outlook is that if you've got some kind of useful criticism, say it. If you just "don't like thing" then ignore it.
Levels of gay are low today thread. Keep it that way.
>>11972413nick sheathknotting rhinehardt while judy fucks violet with a straponpolice brutality rp
>>11972395>>11972395>it doesn’t look good, try redrawing itAh my bad, I didn’t seem to find any trace of „useful criticism“ however. Care to elaborate?
>>11972434fortune cooke
>>11972497Yes
>>11972497p sure foxes dont have thosethough my knwledge on matter is small and come from /trash/ drawthread
>>11972207ye
>>11972543thanks, wanted to make sure I'm saving it in the right file
how would nick react to being viciously booped in the snoot
>Pack gets chinese takeout.>Charlie gives Remmy her fortune cookie while Wolter and Ozzy choke back their laughter.>What neither of them know is Charlie's giving Remmy a footpaw job under the table.
>>11972556Angery
>>11972556depends who does the booping
>>11972562>>11972562>>11972562new
>>11972556>you viciously boop Nick in the snoot>shock, followed by an expression of confusion and hurt visualize as he holds a paw over his hurt snoot>“Why would you do that, anon?!“ he ask, tears forming in his eyes as he turns his head away in shame>You try to comfort him by putting your hand on his shoulder, but hold>“Why did I do that?“ you think to yourself>there’s awkwardness in the air as silent sobs fill the room>“Shit, I think my snoot is bleeding. I need to use the bathroom.“ he barely gets out as he hops off the couch and rushes into the bathroom>“I can help!“ you want to say, but it doesn’t come out, it’s too late>You sit, staring nowhere, as you cup your face into your hands and think>“Why would I do that?“
>>11972461>I didn't find any trace of useful criticismI never said there was. I think anon is being a cunt. Hence the "scream autistically."
