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reshilling for slooty foxes
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>>11345717
Goddamn you FA.
You and Fuel and your goddamn sexy Nicks.
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>>11345717
This Nick epidemy is the best
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>>11345717
At this point, I'm just going to have to accept it.
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I hate Discord
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>>11345833
It's odd that ever since michael left the discord, irl posting of people stopped. Weird, huh?
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>>11345833
Discord's fine as a program and for socializing, problem is discords for most shit from 4chan tend to be run and filled with sperglords and autists who lack human empathy and social grace.
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>>11345863
>stopped
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Sexy Bunny
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>>11345855
Silly nick.
You don't need a scarf, you have winter floof.
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________ was a mistake.
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>>11345886
>futa
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>>11345918
ztg
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>>11345918
Gideon
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>>11345923
that's her mound, you idiot.
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>>11345918
The discord
Fur-, sorry, Zoosonas
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>>11345918
weaver
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>>11345863
You're probably the kind of piece of shit that exists on each 4chan discord just to cause trouble and leak shit unrelated to the thread onto it. Literally the cause of every general's woes, not that you specifically ruin the fun for everyone else on all generals, just that you're like the high school clique archetype for the antisocial asshole who ruins every event people go to for fun because you're so maladjusted you can never have fun with the normies and ruin things for this general.
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>>11345938
this anon knows what's up
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>>11345962
please do not vore the aardwolf
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>>11345855
Autumn/Winter is truly the best time of year.

>>11345962
>Aardcest
Too lewd, delet
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>>11345445
Hope you feel better, asig.
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>>11345998
if a sig was german, he'd be known as der_sieg
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>>11345886
Post all the sexy bunnies
We must counter the gay
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>>11345988
>Autumn/Winter is truly the best time of year.
I concur
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>>11346033
no
hetero is a mental illness
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>>11345998
Of course he sleeps nude, he's a tube and a cute one at that.
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>>11346057
Aversion to hand holding is an illness.
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>>11346085
Hand holding is an illness.
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>>11346033
>Post all the sexy bunnies
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>>11346110
You are an illness.
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What happened to smooshing, I miss smooshing.
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>>11346047
>tfw no qt fox bf wrap you up in their tail to keep you warm on a winter evening
Just end my life now senpai

>>11345998
How did they get into his house if he was sleeping?
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>>11346142
No u
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>>11346149
smooshing has been banned due to the grievous bodily harm it can cause.
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>>11346158
Hamilton made a key forever ago.
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anybody got model sheets for judy and gideon at hand?
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>>11346158
>How did they get into his house if he was sleeping?
Hamilton has a key obviously
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>>11346170
Ok
Now let me get inside you. I want your body totally under my control.
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>>11346195
People just need to hit up the smoosh training facilities and watch the informative videos...
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>>11346224
Fool!
Vore is my fetish!

Now suffer the wrath of my acids!
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>>11346209
I don't seem to have any Gid ones, sorry Anon.
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>>11346210
Someone should tell Terry to change his locks, it's not safe to have a couple of serial lewders creeping around while he sleeps
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>>11346257
that'll do I guess, thanks
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>>11346297
filthy hybrids?
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>>11346248
>implying you can vore microbes
>implying they simply can't travel through your tissue membranes and get into your bloodstream before reaching the stomach
This is why you will die
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>>11346113
That's a cute bun, but I prefer buns with predators.
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>>11346335
Microbes aren't evven mammals
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>>11346209
Gideon a shit, why would anyone need a model sheet of him? Just draw Nick, add a hundred pounds, take off a foot of height, and make him really, really pathetic.
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>>11346297
what if that's only the first trimester
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>>11346376
Exactly.
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>>11346410
Somebody requested him so I'm giving it a shot.

>just draw Nick but completely different

right-o
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>>11346161
Welp, like always.

There is a NSFW version, but you have to be a $5 patron, and yiff.party hasn't had anyone upload it yet since Miles is CUF.
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>>11346410
I laughed more at this than I should've.
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>>11346459
You're a damn good smoosher famished, thank you.
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>>11346450
Oh, wait, I forgot the stupid haircut, that's important.
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>>11346451
I need.
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Hello everybody!

Its a three day weekend! Who here is excited about their break and plans on making cool stuff for the thread?

Let's post some lazy three-day-weekend music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGVxu1t77Dg

>>11345962
Famished your weird drawings are always so funny to see.

>>11345998
That was so kind of you to make, buddy. I hope A_Sig sees this and feels a little better about all that's bothering him. Its comforting to know you've got friends who care.

>>11346113
That is not a lewd VRbit.

I just eat flowers and enjoy candles and like to swim in speedos.
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>>11346459
aww, he's so grumpy.
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>>11346149
I miss ahegao
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>>11346350
>filename

Bill Murray signed on to voice Garfield the first time because he thought one of the Coen brothers was involved.

He knew full well who was involved with the movie when he took the cash to voice Garfield for the second movie.

He blocked any script for a Ghostbusters 3 because Ramis and Ackroyd knew that people would riot if they killed off or sent off Venkmen between movies.

Ramis fucking dies.

Murray agrees to be in Ghostbusters reboot since "he knows the cast is funny".

Bill Murray is a fucking prick.
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>>11346491
Sorry, but take this instead.
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>>11346497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn_6z2uuVFo

>Who here is excited...
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>>11346555
>Bill Murray is a fucking prick.
Maybe, I don't like to pry into peoples private lives, I just really enjoy most of his work.

>>11346497
Just doing some painting and extra snoozing this weekend. Also that is one of if not the lewdest lops I have ever seen, eating flowers or not.

https://youtu.be/PZbkF-15ObM
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>>11346658
Judy's nipples there could cut diamond.
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>>11346644
It wasn't private at all.

Ramis and Murray had a falling out since they had a disagreement on the philosophy and how long the time loops went on in Groundhog Day, they didn't speak for years, and he rejected any Ghostbusters scripts that came his way.

Apparently, it was a miracle that he even agreed to voice his character in the PS3/360 game (and you could tell how much he didn't give a shit by his voice), and even then I don't think that he & Ramis recorded in the same room at all.

Supposedly, they "made up", but Murray kept rejecting scripts and rewrites all the way up to Ramis' death.

It is possible to like someone's work, but think they're a reprehensible human being. Just look at Woody Allen and Orson Scott Card.
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>>11346350
>Bill Murray as Garfield is weird

They wanted to make a Ghostbusters cartoon after the movie. They got the rights. Bill Murray refused to let his image be used in the cartoon. They had to change the appearances of all the characters. Egon got a white pompadour, Ray was a fat ginger, etc.

As a fuck you to Bill Murray, they cast Lorenzo Music as the VA of Peter Venkman and had him do his Bill Murray impression. The same VA also did Garfield. Over the years people confused Murray with Music. So when they made the movie the cast Murray for box office draw.
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>>11346497
Time to get some fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4zr3ZPSDac

>>11346644
>C2C
excellent taste

>>11346033
damn right
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>>11346411
>>11346411
Unf. Birthing porn when?
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>>11346451
what's CUF?
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>>11346737
I fuckin miss Lorenzo Music, man. He's also great as Ralph the All-Purpose Animal.
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>>11346522
no you don't
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>>11346670
Betty is a good wolfmom.
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>>11346788
>no you don't
I do. Much in the same way that you're going to miss that shot.
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>>11346795
Jude the literal dude seems like a cool guy.
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>>11346788
more badass hamilton pls
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>>11345717
I really like seeing "distressed/embarrassed/humiliated" drawings like this and wish there were more, or there were more scenarios of things like this
Judy and Nick tied up in ropes in the Canals, or maybe a rodent is walked like a pet in bdsm gear around bigger mammals unseen, or a naked bigger mammals has to somehow hide from everyone as they try to get clothes
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>>11346737
All the problems that the Real Ghostbusters went through were undeserved and numerous.

Such as the reason why they had to call the show the "Real" Ghostbusters.

Don't get me started on Janine and the junior Ghostbusters.

>>11346763
Cash Up Front.

Basically, the way that yiff.party gets material is that they have bots make pledges and download the material/get the links. It then cancels the pledge before it can get charged.

When Patreon started noticing all the fraud, they gave users the option to charge their new patrons up front; i.e. you have to give the amount of money for the tier you want up front.

Yiff found a way around this, by basically making it so that someone could take the bullet for the site by paying the CUF, and having Yiff piggy back and downloading everything to the site.

Since that requires people to pay between 1-20 dollars or so up front, per CUF patron, you sometimes get a long stretch of no updates for a creator, if they even get one at all.
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>>11346823
He's cool in all the right places
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>>11346795
source?
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>>11345923
Virgin confirmed
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>>11346875
It's Numbers.
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>>11346303
>It was a complete surprise to Judy Hopps when the "other" Nick declined her advances
>The bunny knew he was at least physically attracted to her, she could smell it off of him
>The pausing of the fox's gaze on her voluptuous form helped give away his interest as well
>But, when Judy unzipped the front of her jumpsuit and teased him in the privacy of her apartment, the last thing she expected him to do was to zip it right back up and rebuke her!
>She had never seen any male resist that strategy before!
>Her curves and assets may have not helped the common stereotype about her species, but they did give her some influence over males
>Yet, against this fox, she might as well have been as flat as a board
>It amused her and frustrated her at the same time, finding no real fun in this Nick's stoic response, so different than the Nick that she knew
>She had wanted to play a little bit, experience this fox from another world
>This only made her more interested in him
>So far, he had stayed in the confines of Judy's apartment while he adapted and she got him the collar and key they would need for him
>She watched as Nick used her laptop, looking through as many websites as possible to get a feel of this different reality
>Maybe even look for a way back to his world through some obscure parts of the internet
>She wondered if he had something waiting for him back home, and that was why he refused her
>Maybe it was his own Judy Hopps
>She smiled
>Well, she was Judy too, and it would be fun if she got him to see that
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>>11346833
very feelsie
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>>11345998
>One time they are there while the mongoose is having some spicy dream.
>Hamilton sees for the first time the huge dudetube of the tubedude.
>He would never forget the sight.
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>>11346922
I like it! Would love to see this continued somehow.
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>>11346922
More of this please anon
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I miss you
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>>11347384
I'm right here baby
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>>11345956
Nah. He's just a narcissistic ass-hole and its fun messing with people who seem to think that they are better than everyone
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>>11347406
I'm glad you're here with us anon
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>>11347403
Judy doesn't know
Nobody tell her
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>>11347433
I'm assuming by your grammar you refer to this michael, I'm honeslty in the dark as to what goes on in the discord for this general so it really doesn't matter much to me.
I point this out just as a warning, don't do cliques and similar bullshit because it'll tear the general apart or you'll have to outsource all of your original content.
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>>11347370
Where is the gif of Betty doing this?
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>>11347577
He just makes a song once in a while and then starts to samefag pretending to be his own fanboys here in the thread. He also posts nudes and "important gif for every thread" just to pretend to be relevant and to be intentionally annoying.
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>>11347577
If you're new to the threads, a warning:
There's a person who has been following weaver since he was in the /mlp/ threads. He's dedicated his life to fucking with whatever fandom weaver's in.
In fact the Roommates thread is talking about him.
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>>11347577
>don't do cliques
They're already a thing, pal.
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Sorry for the late replies-- my internet is very spotty down here.

>>11346580
If the song is meant to be representational, I wish you luck in the job search! Its never fun to be unemployed.

>>11346644
I can't wait to see what you paint, buddy! And Life Aquatic is an awesome movie! I hope it inspires you-- we could always use more Scubatopia!

>>11346748
Its always fun when you're doing cool Zootopia stuff!

>>11347697
Nice Nick! Is this Jam?
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>>11347657
Just like with MiniTuffs then.

>>11347680
Then enjoy the golden age while it lasts, it'll all fall to ruin soon enough.
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Gay love is the purest form of love.
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>>11347695

"Ach- Judy, you have no idea how to give a blowjob, do you?"
"Look, I went to college to learn, okay?"
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>>11347725

post pack street boob
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>>11347705
>I can't wait to see what you paint, buddy!
Oh I'm just painting models... nothing to do with the thread I was just making conversation.
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>>11347708
kek
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>>11346459
Thank you guys.

Goodnight /ztg/
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Goodnight mr tube, dream of cute badgers.
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>>11347811
Sleep tight tuber!
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>>11347811
Lewd Goose
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>>11347811
Good night A_Sig!!
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>>11346601
v feelsy
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So how much Progre has been made on Armasyll's '""""""""""Dating Sim"""""""""""? Is it still just a rape/gore simulator, or did it get expanded?
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>>11347976
just rewriting some of the backend to make things easier to expand on :v
other than that, more locked doors, inaccessible items, and no new text
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>>11347762
I thought gay incest was the purest
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>>11348030
No. Childhood best friends falling in love, confessing their love to each other, becoming a couple and consummating that love, then getting married and adopting children is the purest form of love.
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>>11348020
>______
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>>11348020
You'll make the Judeon lovers very happy, and you should be proud of that
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>>11348020
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>>11348112
yeah all three of them
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>>11348090
Why was Alec so mean, /ztg/?
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>>11348020
DELET THIS
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>>11348149
>>11348120
>>11348094
>>11348036

I don't get it. What's the problem?
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>>11348160
Gideon is gay, he doesn't belong with Judy.

He belongs with a cute country boy.
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>>11348160
______ should not be encouraged.
Ever.
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>>11348137
Alec was super nice whenever I talked to him!

He would tease me but it was all in good fun.

I should see how he's doing!
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New Pack Street when?
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>>11348200
>New Pack Street
>New
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>>11348160
Is a meme. Don't think too much about it.
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>>11347862
I can picture his smug little face so clearly
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>>11348160
You've sinned.
You've fucking sinned.
Why don't we have Templars for shit like this?
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>>11346731
>Orson Scott Card

Oh, OSC is a prick? (*Discreetly looks up on Wikipedia*) Fantastic. Now I can hate his work AND him.

Honestly. I have no idea how anyone could possibly have thought Ender's game was a good book.

The entire thing is just Ender accomplishing things literally any human being could do while the author wanks himself off silly over how super speshul he is for doing it. Seriously, the amount of wank is unreal (as you'd imagine from any character called 'Ender'. Honestly, might as well have called him Raven DarkShadow McEdge). It's informed ability all the way down.

And that's not even going into how fucked up his depiction of the human race is. I've never read a scifi book where the premise was 'save the human race' and finished the thing thinking "For fucks sake *why would you want to?*"

No one acts even remotely human in that book. Middle-class teenage schoolboys will go straight to murdering a fellow student if they can get away with it to start with. In fact, every child is violent to the gills! (Which is weird, because one of the so speshul characteristics of Ender is that he's so violent its pseudo-ubermenschian! *swoon* - but it doesnt exactly stand out).

I experienced this dull feeling of 'oh, of course' when I found out he was Mormon, because he has this very obvious theme in the book that people cannot possibly save themselves or improve themselves. Greatness is something you are just magically born with.

Everyone in the book is either a dumb, unthinking slave or a morally superior over-human. And not in the cool Nietzschean way.

> TL;DR = I can't say it wasn't a compelling book. I read right to the end. But it's a book where I began desperately cheering for the aliens early on, and when I finished it I actually used it to help me start a fire in my fireplace. Seriously.

I cannot believe that mary-sue wank fic got him fame. I've read fanfiction better put together.
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>>11348214
Plz

I don't know how much longer I can wait
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>>11348200
"Pack Street was a mistake"
- Weaver
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>>11348160
Judeon for whatever reason triggers people.

... Keep drawing it
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>>11348214
>Using the top/bottom version while also being wrong
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>>11348020
Well, despite some anons' aversion to the subject matter, this looks pretty good so far.

Mind if I make a request for some time in the future?
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>>11348199
IIRC, He's since gone to taking commissions over on FA after he left.

Also he has a cat sona.
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>>11348160
Others have said it, but it's just a meme.

I'dve hoped that some people realize that you're new to the community and don't get the inside jokes yet.
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>>11348199
he's on inkbunny now.
https://inkbunny.net/sp8tarnater
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>>11348287
>I'dve hoped that some people realize that you're new to the community and don't get the inside jokes yet.
That's an interesting problem I've been thinking of.
Highcow runs the new Pastebin, there should be resources for important things in the thread like info about TT that can be easily copypasted when people ask.
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>>11348232
Well you best keep waiting cause no new info has been release
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>>11348295
I don't know what FA or Inkbunny are.
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>>11348228
Did you hear he rewrote Hamlet where Hamlet was sexually abused by his dad and how it turned him gay?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet%27s_Father
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>>11348316
furry art site
and
furry child art site
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>>11348260
I'm super busy with my comic and am basically doing zootopia stuff just to let off steam so I can't promise anything. But tell me what you'd like and I'll see about fitting it in.
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>>11348316
Art sites catered to furries.

Less rules than Deviantart, but there are limits.

FurAffinity can be pretty bad if you go beyond their niche and rules.
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but why?
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>>11348351
I hope he's making a ton of money then! It'd be nice to know he's financially secure.
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>>11348228
he wuz a good bug din' do nuffin' was jus' on his way gwine to bug church on sunday my bug church need mo' bug money fo' dem bug programs.
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>>11348348
>How much longer will chapter 2 go on for? I'd like to see what you have for chap 3.

Well, my request is for a sexy, intimate picture with Nick and Honey Badger.

Honey was a character who was part of Nick's scam crew in the prototype script, along with Clawhauser and Finnick, she was a conspiracy theorist who believed that sheep were controlling society.

She got cut from the movie, but her model was reworked into the badger doctor from the mental hospital who was arrested in the final product.

Since then, some people here (me included) like to have those two together, romantically or platonically. It's similar to the Jack Savage and Skye thing.
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>>11348492
What, no "*Notices Bulge* OwO what's this?"?
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>>11348436
We're getting close to the end. A few pages of dialogue. One more sex scene. Some wrapping up dialogue. And a couple pages of money shot.

I'll take a week or two to recuperate after that before ch. 3. But yeah, I'm looking forward to 2 being over too. I'm hoping I can finish it this month.

Other than rings and hair, is there a major difference with the models?
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>>11348523
The concept art they provided here isn't the cut model, this Honey is more upright. THe final Honey we would've gotten before the doctor, the old difference is the clothes and uneven/crazed eyes.
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>>11348492
We're anonymous autists posting about the corruption of a kids' movie on a mongolian cheat codes BBS

but ffs RP is still the cringiest shit out there
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Any good Dawn Bellwether art? She's always been my favorite
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>>11348523
What >>11348569 said, but also a bit more.

Honey was one of the more... inconsistent models they had. There are some versions where she's fairly thin, others where she's wider.

The one on the right is closest to how the badger doctor eventually wound up looking.

Personally, I'm fine with whatever design you wind up using; I just love some badger & fox lovin' regardless.
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>>11348523
Honey's actually got a huge number of designs. Most people seem partial to this one; it's very striking and hints at the conspiracy theorist part and has sort of a spunky vibe without going full on crackpot recluse like some of the other concepts.
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>>11348599
She's had to do desperate things in jail.
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>>11348639
Fair enough. Kinks?

Looks like one of those girls who likes the tough exterior but is a beta in the sack.
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>>11348646
>Hoofer holding tube hostage
DELET
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>>11348661
I would say that she'd probably fuck differently depending on what mood she'd be in.

Sometimes, she might be beta. Others, she's the one in charge.

For this, I'd like to see her a bit more submissive this time. That she wants nothing more than this moment, and the two of them, to last forever.
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>>11348661
Only the filthiest, most degenerate kinks, Anon. Affection between two consenting adults.

But seriously, there's no real baseline. There's been a few different examinations of her, mostly through a friends with benefits relationship with Nick before he met Judy. Things like musk, teasing Nick (so that he ends up masturbating during his visit just to relieve the pressure), some rough stuff, some really tender stuff. It's pretty much fair game.
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I still would love stories about Honey
Just doing Honey things
Conspiracy planning stuff, ranting to mammals on the street, doing odd jobs
Honey adventures
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Does /ztg/ like Ernest and Celestine?
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>>11348766
I LOVE THAT MOVIE!
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>>11348766
I do, I streamed it a few times earlier on
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>>11348661
I second the scent stuff, seeing Nick taking in Honey's musk and getting harder than he already was.

>>11348766
I'm... afraid I've never seen it.
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Your Zoosona is now somehow involved in Pack Street. They had an offscreen cameo in one of the chapters or have some reason to go there outside of the story. They might not know any of the characters, or could know one or two. They're not anywhere near Poochie status.

How are they involved?
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>>11348785
I can stream it for you some time when I have the time again.
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>>11348808
>armasyll's chamois runs a daycare for predator kits
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>>11348808
They find a celebrating, but angry mob that's tearing apart a sheep doll.

They then point out to the lion and tiger that there's a sheep in the building they're in front of.

As the mob rushes in to the building, the zoosoma walks over to the gym, happy to help out that sheep that lives in the neighborhood get to his party.
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>>11348784
Oh hey, I remember that!
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>>11348785
>he hasn't seen it
You need to fix that problem
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>>11348784
I was there for that
Comfy shit
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>>11348808
>Sick of Sahara Square/wants to live closer to work, can't afford/not willing to pay increased rent so moves in somewhere in the general area of Pack Street
>Owes someone a favor/is hired to handle the drinks at some block party or other

That's all I can really think of. The place he works is really interspecies-friendly so maybe Al and V dropped in at one point. I dunno.
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>>11348918
Whats up, giant ocelot?
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>>11348492
wtf i hate inkbunny now
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>>11348943
My dick, now that you're here.
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>>11348808
walked in and got lost
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>>11348808
>Otters like fish
>When I was a kid I'd traverse into neighbourhoods chock full of people on social welfare with my parents to buy fish from some old woman's freezer

He's probably getting fish for a dirt cheap price from a trap house
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>>11349042
>boop
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>>11349042
Actually thats not what happened what happened was actually this
>otterly writes Take Me Or Leave Me 2
thats what happened
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>>11349042
This otter needs to be lewded
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>>11349081
That expression is very NiTW

I LOVE it thank you mr anon i don't actually know your handle will you tell it to me

>>11349088
pls
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>>11349134
>pls write TMoLM2
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>>11348808
>Like in real life, rough areas have some of the best coffee
>Pack Street has a tiny, one room third wave shop that roasts their own beans
>Painted concrete brick walls, construction going on outside, and it's always the wrong temperature inside, but the coffee is absurdly good
>Commutes all the way across the city to get coffee there and people watch
>Charlie came in once to see what "good coffee" was like, he recommended her something and they talked for a while
>Mostly about the show Nathan Fieldmouse has where he gives awful advice to businesses
>She didn't like it, but thought Avo would
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>>11348808
He kicks The Pack our of a bar after they all get absolutely wasted, with Remmy being the only one sober and having to walk all of them back home.
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Reminder that foxes are weebs because Zootopia doesn't have any media where they're the good guys.
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>>11348808
Sona is a recreational scavenger, Charlie is a good source of knowledge and components for older tech, gives her first crack at any salvage they don't want or have an immediate need for
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Good night ztg
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>>11349427
Sleep tight, bunner!
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>>11348766
Yep!
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>>11349404
>No specs for shows or carytons or movies in Zootopia
Pain
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>>11348228
Ender is fuckin textbook mary sue, yeah
Also vaguely fascist overtones mixed almost schizophrenically with "but what we REALLY need is compassion!"
But maybe the fascism is just his Mormonism leaking through -- either way it's like you said, some people are just naturally better than others
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>>11349609
I think the bigger flag is his characters being abused by older brothers in all of his stories.
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Hey /ZTG/ I just saw a really disturbing picture of Nick getting gutted and raped. Can I have some comfy Nick to make it go away?
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>>11349686
Don't go to e621 without filters, anon.
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>>11349686
Pretty comfy here
Actually it's just the only Nick pic I have on my phone
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>>11349686
no
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>>11349686
>>11349707 this
Also in the future remember that you're inviting someone to post it if you describe it.
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>>11349686
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>>11349727
>Also in the future remember that you're inviting someone to post it if you describe it.
Hey /ZTG/ I just saw a really disturbing picture of Nick being really sexy. Definitely DO NOT post sexy Nick's.
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>>11349716
I, my dear anon, despise you.

Also, Jack Savage is the biggest bitch in Zootopia. I believe the commissioner of that picture is jealous of Nick Wilde and projects themselves onto Jack.
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>>11349743
Nicks*
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>>11349744
The commissioner is also a coward, decided to remain anonymous.
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>>11349744
Jack Savage is a cutie who deserves a patootie. A few bad images don't ruin a character.
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>>11349768
Jack Savage is the reason that This is what True Love Looks Like was made.
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>>11349768
This. Otherwise Nick and Judy would be trashed just by the amount of MLP crossover stuff alone.
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>>11349744
hahahahaha
no
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Explain why your favorite OC is the best without using their name or species.
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>>11349779
He was also the reason Fuel's drawings of him were made, and Mead is making a comic about him after WutB, and comic's thing. Focus on the good and you'll lead a happier life.
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>>11349797
He invites his tiny Fox friend (who is a social goof) over for dinner with his extended Asian family, a third of whom don't even speak english.
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>>11349811
Jack Savage is the reason that Black Jack was made.
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>>11349811
Appreciate it Anon. I'm going to go scribble down a revenge fic to make myself feel a bit better.
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>>11349811
>Focus on the good and you'll lead a happier life.
I refuse and will solely obsess about bad things and complain that nothing is good.
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>>11349797
I love her smile, could always be a stepford smiler but it is enough for me to find some strength to go day by day.
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>>11349811
>>11349849

Jack Savage is the reason that the sequel to Fluent has Judy needing to fuck as much as possible, so she begs Nick to be able to have a second lover.
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>>11349404
>Nick and Finnick have an "anime night" every Sunday
>The majority of the anime that they watch has fox characters either as the protagonists or at least good guys
>Eventually Judy asks Nick about what they watch, and he reluctantly shows her, fearing some judgement
>He did not expect the excited squeal from her as she showed him her favorite animes, featuring bunny characters that went against promiscuous and cute stereotypes
>She became a third member of their anime Sundays
>Saturdays though, Judy and Nick looked up more...adult animes featuring foxes and bunnies
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>>11349811
>He was also the reason Fuel's drawings of him were made

I love Fuel's drawings of Jack!

>Mead is making a comic about him after WutB

I can't wait for that!

>and comic's thing

Aw shucks.
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>>11349905
>And then, Anon woke up and realised that he was a lone weeb on a board of furries.
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>>11349871
Let us be honest; that guy would have just used some random bunny OC if Jack didn't exist. He tried the threesome shit with Gideon and no one liked it. He tried it with Finnick, and no one liked it. It wasn't going to work with Jack, but he still acted surprised by it when no one liked it.
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So, how about them human in Zootopia ideas?
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>>11349946
AWAHO happened
Nothing else is needed
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I don't feel safe enough just being cuddled by Betty. Not even Eldritch Betty. I need someone to actually threaten me first, like that Greentext where she's cuddling Remmy and someone throws a rock through their window.
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>>11349952
AWAHO?
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>>11349952
I really don't get all the positive receptions for AWAHO. It didn't completely suck and that's about it.
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>>11349946
human reincarnates as pigmy shrew
cant get used to life as a mammal so tiny
dies, gets back to life groundhog day style
its a torture fic
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>>11349974
http://archiveofourown.org/works/8154437/chapters/18687605
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>>11349952
This kinda petered out and died. I think the artist got freaked out by some of the shit people did in this gen; he actually showed up and asked for feedback when he started this.
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>>11349986
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>>11349974
All women are HO, a misogynistic fic written by Traveon guy.
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>>11349986
He was around during peak Joker
We lost a lot of good people then
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>>11350011

/end
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>>11349996
a few hundred people want to have a good time together
one person wants to have a good time by not letting them
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>>11349996
Joker.

The guy who demanded the thread go his way and said the thread would die.

Then actively tried to kill it; repeatedly over and over.

I still think he was someone from the discord. IIRC, he was a leaker too.
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>>11350021
A human being treated like something to be fearec by Zootopia. I like it. Beats the "I'm a human and suddenly I'm an animal because I died." Or "I'm a human in Zootopia and everyone loves me."
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>>11350042
He is the leaker. He just doesnt use the duplicated image spam anymore. And he does have a discord account.
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>>11349996
not to be diminishing joker spam but im pretty sure it was more akin to "hey guys, look at this thing im working a lot on" with people going "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
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>>11350056
*feared

Sorry.
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>>11350056
I remember recently someone did a Zoot/Sing crossover, where the first human evolved from apes and Judy loved him, but he was hunted by terrorists.

That kinda shit really poisoned the well before it was ever really dug, sad to say.
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>>11350065
Be straight with us.

Was it Michael or any of his little group of friends?
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>>11350086
Because instant "canon falls for OC" type thing?

Unrealistical.
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>>11350068
I remember he reposted it one night where a bunch of people were friendly to him, he explained he was thinking of a sequel after that that starred Nick, drew a picture of his handle which was a plague doctor holding a banner saying thanks
That was the last I saw of him, you see him another time?
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>>11350056
of course you do, if youre self inserting, being someone who is feared is way better than just being another normal civilian or assumed normal

you should write a fic about it, these threads love self insert fics/green, and most are unfortunately done with stuff like betty. could see a pretty solid following base for something zootopia.
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>>11350111
Nah, don't remember that one. I did see it reposted without tumblr/repost filenames with the mixed reactions.
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>>11350099
The discord drama was between a few people and they used the threads to snipe at each other
The majority happened over PMs, all the threads got were anonymous attacks and venting from time to time
Almost all the major players left and the conflict has pretty much died as people moved on
But the problem is Joker saw it, and Joker finds any way to fuck with everyone
What he did wasnt on anyones side, he found a way to make a conflict worse and for it to involve everyone
Thats why his spam includes all players involved, because hes an opportunist
Not defending anyone, but the one guy is watching and finding any chance he can get to ruin the fun for everyone and make anyone who has it bad have it worse
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>>11350086
I'm sure there would be great ideas and settings using human in zootopia. You guys always create great stuff, I'd read a story of a human interacting with Zootopia world and characters. Would definitely be more interesting than 'Nick visits the burrow' or 'Relationship Drama Screenplay with Zootopia Characters name'.
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>>11350113
I actually have a fic planned, Zootopia being part of another continent on Earth, much like ours, except Anthros and Humans evolved alongside each other, feral animals still existing, all that being luck of genetics. Some countries, say, the Middle East, China, some places in the US, hate Anthros, seeing them as an abomination against God, monsters, subhuman.

Zootopia was founded by Anthros, for anthros, around the late 1800s, being a cultural melting pot of different species, minus humans, of course. Humans, until recently, weren't allowed in Zootopia. The protagonist is a human, military type, coming into Zootopia, mostly due to international pressure to open borders and start communicating. Zootopia has the exact same problems we face, terrorism, crime, war. I don't intend for it to be a super happy story all the time, it'll get dark.

Still, of course, in the early stages right now.
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>>11350126
I remember the mixed reactions too. Always felt bad because I thought the comic was harmless.
He seemed pretty set on making his second comic when I saw him talk, too. Thats why it surprised me when I never saw him again, but then again a lot of people got frustrated and just up and left.
It surprised me that so many stuck around.
Im grateful for it though, you all are cool people and I like the things you make.
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>>11350321
got frustrated with the spam*
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>>11350299
Sounds amazing dude!

>I don't intend for it to be a super happy story all the time, it'll get dark.
Yeah I like that, way too many fics are just boring happy all the time. Forget that there is a unsavory, dark and gloomy side of life. Can't wait for more news of it!
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>>11350172
>"Nick visits the burrow"
I can only think of a handful of times I have enjoyed that trope, because usually it turns into "Oh hey, I am bringing my best friend/boyfriend who is a fox to my home town full of bunnies who probably have fox repellent at the very least! I am sure nothing will go wrong and there will be no drama! Oh, and some festival involving carrots will be there too."
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>>11350359
Yeah, the idea has always been bad. And the comics who explore it also are pretty bland or preachy. Hello Bunnyburrow and WUTBurrow comes to mind.
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Am I too late to audition for the gay?
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>>11350299
Reminds me of GATE.
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>>11350412
Yes.
The role's already been filled by a "Gideon Grey"
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>>11350412
Nah man it's cool, always accepting new applicants.
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>>11350392
Here is pretty much the only comic, I feel, that used that idea and was pretty decent at it. Mostly because it kinda focuses mainly on Nick, there are hints of WildeHopps but nowhere near the center stage, and has pretty good interactions with Gideon and Stu.

http://imgur.com/a/5pJJJ
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>>11350339
Well, it's through the eyes of a trained killer. Not the idealistic innocence of Judy, or Nick's cynical and hurt worldview. Wolfe is a soldier, he knows exactly how fucked the world is.

Here's a little sample, picture yourself walking into a civilian village, and seeing all the townspeople in a mass grave, kids barely old enough to walk, women. I apologize if that sounds a bit edgy, but war can be, in an unironic, fucked up way.

And yes, his name is Wolfe, it's a play on how an actual wolf has a pack, this one's a loner. I've been doing some research on things that happened in Vietnam, Serbia/Bosnia during the purges, Iraq. Some of this sounds like something an edgy teen would write.
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>>11350431
But didn't GATE fucking suck?
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>>11350359
Eh, some don't bite that bait. Depends on how it's done, really.
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>>11350503
Well, yeah, the tone can be a bit heavy and mature, but it is war, isnn't it? And don't worry about it, it seems like you ve been doing your research, it doesn't sound like an edgy teen would write.

Also Wolfe is a pretty cool name, goes on par with the Zootopia theme.
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/ztg/, how do i comfy?
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>>11350538
I only saw the anime, it hardly have any real conflict as the humanity had militar d
superiority, but iirc the LN dwelves on deeper issues of the portal.
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>>11350503
I applaud your enthusiasm, anon, but I've seen 'military man in zootopia' attempted so many times and it always turns out shit.

By all means, you do you, but ain't no way I'm jumping back into that hole.
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>>11350603
For each their own, I guess.
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>>11350593
Plus the anime had really, really shitty animation.

>>11350503
>>11350603
"Soldier in X" has always been really bad, no matter what fandom I've seen it in.
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>>11350589
step 1. kill yourself
step 2. MAXIMUM COMFY
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>>11350503
There was an anon who wanted to do a series of human in zoot stories from different time periods
He got a way more negative reaction than you got and that sucked because I havent seen him since but the biggest question was "why were they humans"
And he realized them being humans didnt mean anything, it was just characters who were from different countries and places moving to Zootopia
So I ask you, does the story change dramatically if they aint humans? Cause you can get a ton more readers with that small change.
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>>11350589
YOU MUST PRAISE HIM
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>>11350589
Well you can bully the VRbit with lewd or rolled up newspapers. That always helps me.
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>>11350603
What, Anon? You don't like entire paragraphs talking about the make, model, and specs of each attachment on every gun?
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Even number, I get in bed for ASMR and comfy videos.
Odd number, I stay out of bed.
Dubs, I write a suicide note and stop in the middle to imagine something Zootopia related.
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>>11350647
As mentioned numerous times before, most human in Zootopia themes are just self inserts.
A few newcomers get the idea as the 'stranger in a strange land' concept, and naturally gravitate towards using humans.
Still a no-no.
If they want to do strange, the option has been left open at various places to use non-mammals, typically reptiles.
There is enough diversity to probably get away with this if anyone is thinking in that direction.
Side note, TMNT/Zoot crossovers will only appeal to twelve year olds...
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>>11350647
There was also the anon who wanted to unironically have human mythology in Zootopia where whites were considered good by the mammals, where they saw the blacks as corrupted or evil.

And the anon who wanted someone to write him a story where humans invaded Zootopia with our "superior armament" and how they probably wouldn't be able to resist.

Or the anon who kept spamming some vaguely philosophical quote about how humans were the deadliest of mammals and trying to build up support to have humans in Zoot.

They might've even all been the same guy.
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> tfw i'll never know if my pack street headcanons are anywhere close to true because they'll never even be addressed in the story
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>>11350728
sleep well,friend
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>>11350724
>draw a gun
>that one asshole in the comment section has to make a huge deal about it, regardless of how you draw it
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>>11350731
Oh Human Fuck Ya... is there nothing you can't ruin.
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>>11350564

And, I don't know if I'm going to have a romantic subplot with Wolfe and Nick. I could see them being close, one being an idealist buried under a cynic, and the Wolfe basically running from himself. Though, it'll be slow going, not just "they meet, and fuck the next day."

>>11350647
the big thing I want to explore is the cultural difference, the outsider, the distrusted individual. You could do that with Pred/prey, but not on the scale I'm trying to. This is a Zootopia that still talks about how even during primative times, humans were evil, while Anthros were able to somewhat coexist without a lot of violence on par with human history. The only reason Wolfe is even in Zootopia is they're all under pressure from the rest of the world, and running out of room for themselves.
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>>11350731
Anon I've got news for you, they were all the same guy.
Not a troll either, he was just... particular.
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>>11350776
This honestly sounds about as generic as you could possibly make it.
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I'm thirsty /ztg/
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>>11350776
>Though, it'll be slow going, not just "they meet, and fuck the next day."
Good to hear, a slow developing relationship is rare to find in fanfiction, especially furry ones, doubly for homossexual as most are sexually heavy. Feel free to drop by with updates, buddy.
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>>11350827
ofc u in ztg on a friday night
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>>11350647
>So I ask you, does the story change dramatically if they aint humans?

This is the question anyone needs to ask themselves before attempting to write a "humans/Zootopia" fic. Because for humans to even EXIST in this universe requires a good amount of explanation, as it has been stated that humans, or primates, simply do not exist. It is not something a Zootopia reader can just go "Oh, well I guess humans exist now."
Is it worth coming up with a possibly convoluted background for human characters when you could tell the same story with animal characters? Stereotypical species as they may be, maybe using a wolf could be interesting, where they were once part of a "pack" but thrown out and is now shamed as a "lone wolf". And that is just one of the most common animals used in media!
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>>11350827
Perhaps a pawsicle could quench your thirst?
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>>11350731
>There was also the anon who wanted to unironically have human mythology in Zootopia where whites were considered good by the mammals, where they saw the blacks as corrupted or evil.
Oh god and he said that mexicans and arabs would be like "centaurs and genies who arent bound by morality and who might be helpful or harmful depending on the circumstances", that was horrific
>>11350776
I get you want a truly different MC, but making an animal culture is more different than a human culture to me
What about a country of lions who are at war with a country of deer and they eat them to send a message and scare them? Like its an atrocity and a warcrime, and now hes in Zootopia. That would be hardcore and maybe too edgy to me but thats at least what is cool about Zootopia, I learn a new culture and I learn how it mixes with Zootopia
A human culture, I know about already, like the desired effect youre looking for might still be better done with like, proud segregated species
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>>11350776
>>11350818
>generic?
Man it's just shit.
Self insert super wolf, and surprise, surprise, he's fuckin gay.
Jeez, just get over yourselves already.
Male fox, female rabbit, start from there...
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>>11350844
im scare
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>>11350886
>Self insert super wolf
Sounds like a certain fic I know...
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>>11350754
>Had sleep problems my entire life
No such thing as a nice sleep, just oversleep and undersleep.
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>>11350915
Did they sparkle?
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Ok, think of it like this. You have an isolated country, a country continuously growing and expanding, running out of room for the population, maybe starting to stretch their resources too thin, facing pressure from the bigger players to open up, maybe even facing pressure from people in their own country. War is out of the question, because, humans will inevitably unite against Zootopia seeing a common enemy. Zootopia doesn't see humans in terms of nationality, or creed. They just see humans. Humans, who have tried to eradicate them, humans, who have exiled them. That is one of the reasons I use a human MC, I can't see that level of hate or fear for a wolf from a majority of a population.

Technology wise, Zootopia could roughly be on par with modern day, sans nuclear power or weapons. They're more ecological. Solar power, hydroelectric...

As I said, still working out the details.
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>>11350844
good thing it's only midday where I live or else I'd be having nightmares
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>>11350942
No, but he might as well have. He did get Judy pregnant. Also was a crimelord who could destroy Zootopia on a whim.
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>>11350979
Speaking of which, it literally just updated.
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>>11350957
>I can't see that level of hate or fear for a wolf from a majority of a population
Dawn Bellwether
a sheep
who had it out for ALL predators

just because the animal doesn't fit a trope doesn't mean they aren't capable of it
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>Gazelle doesn't want for much. Money, attention, travel - they stopped being a concern, or even being novel, years ago. >Accommodation, security, food and drinks are all accounted for. She has staff for that.
>But showbiz is lonely. And finding free time? That's hard, especially on tour.
>So she guards that jealously, especially now that she's found someone to share it with for the first time since her career really began.

>Finnick has the remote for the bus' sophisticated security system. It's almost as big as he is, but he knows how to run it now. Gazelle watches his sensitive ears twitch as the locks fire, and the blinds, and the beep of the special override that not even her manager Vance can get through. For the next half hour, the rest of the world is shut out.
>This is a strange partnership. It's the aftermath of a surprise success, which was itself the aftermath of a surprise meeting in the alleyway behind the studio, of all places. She'd stormed out after an argument with know-it-all recording engineers. He'd just been passing through. He might not have said anything about what he'd overheard, even thorough the building's soundproofing.
>But she was glad he had.
>Finnick has innate ears for everything: Syncopation, dominant and diminished chords, hooks so subtle that she won't realize at first that she herself is tapping along.
>He fixed the single, in one night. And in the six months since then, he's become her closest friend. Her lead producer. A kindred spirit that is actually in this for the sake of music, instead of some starry-eyed fan.
>That must be what makes the sex so good.

To be continued tomorrow when I have the time to clean the rest of this up
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Been missing my camera and my tablet pen.

Finally started cleaning my room.

Camera has been found
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>>11350957
This doesnt sound like Zootopia anymore then. Zootopia is the land where anyone can be anything. Why would they have an exception for humans beyond anything else?
I dont see Zootopia harboring hatred towards a country. Its a messy city but its not dictated by hate, its hardly dictated at all, its problems are one of a democracy
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>>11350957
I rolled my eyes so hard it physically hurt.
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>>11350957
>I can't see that level of hate or fear for a wolf from a majority of a population.
Actually, there is a really good movie out there that could explain this for you.
It's called Zootopia, have you seen it?
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been thinking of Charlie lads
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>>11350957
Sounds "Eye of Argon" terrible.
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>>11351067
been thinking about her trip to the chocolate factory, lads
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>>11351032
Seriously?
And why were you looking to find this?
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>>11351067
I think of her sometimes. This is the path it takes.

>She's such a cute, sleepy fox.
>I wish I could cuddle with her.
>Or put my head on her chest.
>Just about every Anon in the thread thinks she'd rather rob me blind, even though I'm not rich or an asshole
>They're probably right
>She has a lot of issues, too
>I'm better with someone else.
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>>11351033
I thought she targeted predators just to get and stay in power.

To this day, I can't see anything in the film that showed that she actually hated predators except when she repeated what Judy said on TV to mock her. I think she just played the tumblr card on everyone and it worked.
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Been thinking of Artemis lads.
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>>11351044
Pretty good.
Great character building but is the next part gonna be sexy time or more story?

>>11351049
Finding a tablet pen will be an achievement on its own.
Good hunting, anon
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https://nighttopia.tumblr.com/tagged/a-heat-bun
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>>11351114
The people were willing to hate predators
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>>11350957
I am sorry to tell you, but I don't think such a story would really work out in a Zootopia setting. It requires almost an insane suspension of disbelief for the average Zootopian reader to accept humans existing within the same universe, let alone where apparently these hundreds of different species, some three times as big as humans with much more strength and natural defenses and weapons, were isolated from the rest of the world by a single species.

It just isn't worth the hastle, buddy.

>That is one of the reasons I use a human MC, I can't see that level of hate or fear for a wolf from a majority of a population.

Maybe not a wolf, but guess what animal was bullied as a kid, denied service, had the chief of police say his word wasn't good, almost ran over, and HAS PRODUCTS SPECIFICALLY MADE TO HARM HIS SPECIES!

>>11351032
Wait, really?
Fucking damn it.
At some point, I am hoping to see "completed" next to it, skim through it and see how that mess ends.
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>>11351095
Because I keep the first page of FF.net's results to keep an eye out for new things and it just popped up.
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That's not a musk deer
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>>11351067
>been thinking of Charlie lads
Me as well anon;
Bestgirl.
>I'm even using this as my desktop.
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>>11351114
She repeated that to mock Judy for being a pest in her plans

Dawn tricked and fooled everyone into turning against one another by playing on the fears and racism rooted in the citizens of the city. Dawn couldn't give a flying fuck to either Predators or Prey given they BOTH were dumb enough to buy into her bullshit.
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Again, it's a work in progress guys, to those of you calling my ideas shit, let's see you do better, to those of you at least being constructive, I appreciate it. Some of this is subject to change, I might make it a bit less "humans are bad, we should hate them" and more "I don't know, humans are a bit vicious, and they've fucked us over a lot, we should be a bit careful now that they're sending some here." Of course, it will range from mammals who have no problem with humans, to the ones holding hard grudges, to the in between.
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someday, somegay
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>Bestgirl.
damn straight
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>>11351155
>let's see you do better
I already have because none of my stories have humans in them
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>>11351155
If youre good for criticism, we'll give it to you
I think you got some good criticism here desu
You can talk to Comic if you want a one on one critic
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>>11351194
>tfw you're not even best girl anymore
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>>11351114
>>11351151
>>11351180

Finally, someone gets it. She's not a bigot, she's just cruel and calculating and knew exactly how to get into power and stay there, which honestly is a lot more chilling than "I did it because I hate those mean ol' preds"
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>>11351151
>>11351134
Exactly. Glad to see some agree with me finally. She is not the racist like everyone likes depicting her as. She even pointed out the numbers in the film. She targeted predators because she knew it would get her and keep her in office. Still did a bad thing, but not in the way so many like to say.
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>>11351221
Marty will always be 5th best boy in my heart
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>>11351221
You're still my best girl Martina, would be bestest if you were you a badger but beggers can't be choosers.
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>For the Queen!!!
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>>11351194
That's well drawn, just needs to squint a little more.
>>11351221
And now a joke...
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>>11348316
Well I'm fucking spooked.
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>>11351253
That's a creative C man
Good job
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>>11351229
Kinda like Hitler. Is Bellwether Disney's darkest villain?
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>>11351155
It's hard not to call you out when the general premise raises so many red flags.
These kind of fics have been done before and most, if not all of them, have failed in explaining why there needs to be humans in the first place.
If you think your story is good, flesh it out, write it down, then publish it.
No point in trying to defend a story that doesn't exist.
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>>11351155
The conflict idea sounds OK, there's just one word that keeps messing it up;
>Human
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>>11351253
I was wondering if wed see a flipped card

Chilly will be stoked to see this
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>>11351282
Don't forget
>Nick is gay with my OC
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>>11351123
the rest is sexy times, yes
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>>11351286
what a flipped card?
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>>11351268
If they had given her more focus maybe than making her just a surprise twist at the very end. If they do anything else to try to make her darker in a further film or series, it would ruin it. Best to leave her be or give some really good redemption backstory. Like her fear of larger animals leading her to do what she did, and then the abuse she received in prison.
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>>11351253
Hey that's pretty fucking cool.
This card thing has been turning out great stuff, good job Pho for starting it and good job T for contributing
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>>11351294
Bi, actually, closeted though.

What, I can't make Nick bi? And with a human? I'm sorry, but AnthroXHuman is a big kink of mine. I don't want to make it the main thing, but something more of a sideplot. Truth is, this is the first thing I've written in about 4 years.
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>>11351067
are you me
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>>11351294
Yep, poured petrol on themselves, currently standing there with a match.
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>>11351299
I should be clearer, a card that is different when you flip it, what is it called when its almost the same when flipped but one side is different?
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>>11351335
He strikes the match...
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>>11351268
>>11351229
>>11351242
Dawn's entire scheme depended upon the shittiness of people to fulfill her goals and it worked flawlessly.

I mean, trick everyone into thinking Predators were naturally going Savage for no discernible reason? After hundreds of years where this doesn't happen and the City eats it up all for her the day it hits the public's knowledge. The media blows it way out of proportions, the Mayor is a big enough dumbass to try and hide the affected predators and gets himself caught in the act making Mammals think its a part of a big cover-up effort. They ate it up without so much as an eyeblink.

Having a dumb bunny from a country bumpkin family speak at the initial press conference to explain the situation was just icing on the cake for Bellwether. The reason why she wanted Judy to be the face of the ZPD was so she could look at the department every day and laugh at how everyone in the system was so stupid to believe what Judy said and how dumb the Rabbit was for thinking that. She probably gave Judy the offer to join her because she figured she'd be dumb enough to believe it.
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>>11351253
Nice
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>>11351335
Because human in zootopia is shit and canonxOC is doubly so. You're pretty much grilling up literal cancer and then asking "what's wrong with the steak?"
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>>11351342
I think there are a few of
>me
around...
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>>11351335
So, forgive me if I'm a bit rusty. Still, I get it. Plenty of people have tried what I've tried and fucked it up. I can see where you're coming from.
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>>11351335
You can make Nick bi. Lots of good fics make Nick bi.
You can make Nick with an OC. There has probably been one or two that have been good that did that.
You can make Nick with a human. There hasn't to my knowledge been a fic that did that very well.
You're doing all three. You're treading dangerous ground.
Look, write it if you believe in it man. If its the first thing you wrote in four years then just get it out there, you know? Cause maybe the thing you write after that will be even better. Or maybe this is genius.
Hey, if people dont like this story, try another story too. Try one for TT.
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>>11351364
In some ways, taking the real life parallels that can be assumed in the movie, the underlying fears/hates are really a bad reflection on humanity.
One needs to have a bit more suspension of disbelief to continue enjoying the movie once that concept has sparked.
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>>11351335
>I'm sorry, but AnthroXHuman is a big kink of mine.

And that explains so much.

To be blunt, in almost every human OC story in this fandom (or any fandom with animal characters), it becomes apparent very quickly that the human is the self-insert, and so that has quickly become the natural reaction to such pairings. Self-inserts/canon characters is basically a big no go for most people, and even then OC/canon character still makes people cringe. Then add in you are going against the WildeHopps pairing, where people go "REEEE" at pairings where Nick or Judy are with other people, and you are going to face quite a bit of opposition.

As >>11351274 said though, no point in trying to defend a story that doesn't even exist. I don't think there is a point in arguing "Hey, give this a try" or "it is still in the works, it won't be so bad" until you actually have it written down and published.

Just keep in mind the criticism the thread has given, ESPECIALLY the "does the story significantly change if these characters aren't human?" and could you possibly tell the same story with animal characters, and not just use human characters because you want to due to some kink you have or you REALLY want to see humans in a story.
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>>11351374
Haven't looked, but I guess Lola has pawpads?
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I unironically think that there's nothing inherently wrong with the concept of a human in zootopia. It's just they've all been terrible because all the writers are terrible.
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>>11351474
All the writers that do the stories are terrible because all the good ones understand that there are no fucking humans in Zootopia.
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>>11351253
Holy shit, this is super awesome dude. Thank you so much!
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>>11351505
That's what I was waiting for, my favorite thing about these cards
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>>11350692
Don't lie to that Anon you fucking heretic
I leave to play some Vidya and this shit happens
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>>11351495
Doesn't mean there can't be.

Good writers know how to use their imaginations, anon.
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>>11351533
>Doesn't mean there can't be
Yes, it does. Primates do not exist in the entirety of the Zootopia universe, period dot the end.
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>>11351459
I actually support WildeHopps. This won't be some cheap "Judy is a bitch to Nick so, he gets with the OC because the OC is super fucking perfect." Wolfe might be a "Heroic" character, might be a bit badass, but, again, as I said, soldier. Psychological trauma, nightmares, injury, PTSD. I want to deconstruct what some other writers rely on. The "unkillable super awesome character saving everyone and has no flaws."
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>>11351382
>>11351385
>>11351399
>>11351474
>>11351495
Yep, just a reminder...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nP9hU8eUfE
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>>11351545
That's a nice headcanon you've got there but it's not a very good use of your imagination.
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>>11351548
>Wolfe might be a "Heroic" character
But the gayness anon...
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>>11351565
It's fun to go back and watch this now and then.
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>>11351548
Heres another thing to think about
Traction
Do you think a lot of people will be interested in reading your story from the threads?
Its hard to sell a military fic, or even one that isnt a comedy. Human in Zootopia makes a lot of people instantly say no. AWAHO is universally regarded as the best, and it still has people who say they will never see it because its got humans.
Lets say only 10 people read it. Will you be happy with that?
Just asking cause this will probably be a reality.
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>>11351533
>Doesn't mean there can't be.
>Good writers know how to use their imaginations, anon.
I have seen this wording before a long time ago...
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>Speaking of humans and Zootopia
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>>11351624
when?
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>>11351646
Tarra and Felde
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>>11351634
I refuse to let this thread die, until we burn the heretic!
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>>11351620

Yep. I'm not doing this for popularity or fame.

Worst case scenario, I fuck it up to the point it's mocked on here years from now. Did I give it my best, and did what I could? Yeah? I'm happy.
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>>11351659
Doesn't ring a bell.
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>>11351576
>Nice headcanon
Thanks man it's the same one the creators have
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>>11351659
You have proof for that?
>>11351672
>Worst case scenario, I fuck it up to the point it's mocked on here years from now. Did I give it my best, and did what I could? Yeah? I'm happy.
Good on you then, and godspeed. I really mean that, I wish I had the courage to try shit creatively like that, I would write a lot more than I write now.
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>>11351668
Well, you have a fun time there Anon, don't be out too late and remember to wear your sallet.
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>>11351505
>flip the card
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>>11351672
OOOHHH, I see where you're coming from now.
You want the fame that Sprinkah, Spintherella, Borba and Wan have.
You may be onto something anon...
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>>11351709
Not that, either. I'm just stating the worst.

Ideally, it receives a lot of praise, realistically, it'll be mixed, maybe slip under the radar.
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>>11351474
>humans in Zootopia
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>You break the rules and therefore this card cannot exist!

But for real, that's a nice card T and I don't really mind the non-uniform design. It's actually a pretty cool dark/light theme.

HOWEVER. Since you didn't give Chilly a suit, I can't add her card to the main deck. I'll still put her in an extra but if you're willing to give her a proper suit and rank, I'll move her up.

Might I suggest her as the Scribe of Lewd?
(and yes, I changed the title from Peasant since that seemed a little mean)
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>>11351867
Nah, it's ok 'cause I had already made one for Boney anyway. I am fine with my new cards being simply "wild cards"
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>>11351867
also her arttist hat could technically be counted as her crown. Ok I'm done bye!
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>>11351943
Okay then. Would've been great to have another main card to fill the deck sooner but I'll respect your decision.

Thanks again, T!
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>>11351123
Thanks anon. Still haven't found the damn tablet pen though
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