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Just got around watching Zootopia, pretty good.

What did /co/ think of it?
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>>87898171
Judy was hot and had great reaction faces
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it was shit
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>>87898781
>Not "cream the rabbit"
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Furry bait.
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Generic, predictable, followed every formula Disney ever has. A waste of a movie. Althought better than the disgrace big hero six and frozen were.
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>>87898171
Bellwether did nothing wrong.
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>>87898828
Go to bed, Gidget.
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2/10 no Finnick in a dress
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>>87898171
Actually got away with a Breaking Bad joke, that's always a plus
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A well made and surprisingly well written film. It's rare to find a kids' movie that actually features racism as a plot point instead of just soapboxing. Also, the furry community has had a field day with it, which is always amusing to watch.

Shame the music is so lackluster, but oh well.
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Remember me?
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It was pretty cute, would have been better if they change the villain.
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>>87898927
>Also, the furry community has had a field day with it, which is always amusing to watch.

Well, hey, they'll always do that, so, oh well.
As for me, long as she cute, it don't matter

None of this matters
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>>87898965
Weren't you that asshole no one cared about?
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>>87898927

>Also, the furry community has had a field day with it, which is always amusing to watch.
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>>87898171
I for one loved it and the bun!
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>>87899458
I cared.
I cared just enough to hate him.
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>>87899741
Don't speak bad about me!
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>>87898927
>>87899542
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>>87899824
get your sick fantasies out of here asshole
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>>87899824
This is the EQG Copypasta only replacing all mention of Bronies with Furries.
Get that weak stuff outta here.
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>>87898171
there were literally 1000 or so threads about it
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preachy, the whole "don't judge book by the cover" been done to death.
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Definitely good, but I don't think its "the best Disney movie since Lion King".
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>>87898927
Russian furries attended the premiere in their edgy fursuits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs_Ql8vnzEE
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>>87900947
>>87898927

yeah, they blew it when they picked the music,
especially Shakira.

guess it was too late to change the composer.
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>>87898171
That part his hilarious. That Fox's face..
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>>87898171
Was pretty neat. Love the character designs, expressions and creative location ideas.

Hope theres a sequel so I can get another artbook.

From Maryland so I didn't run into any furries at the theater the two times Ive seen it.
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>>87901178

Hey, another Marylander! Although technically I go to Delaware for movies...
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>>87901192

Brandywine for me.
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>>87901178
>Hope theres a sequel so I can get another artbook.

uhh, about that..
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I liked how "cute" was the rabbits' version of "nigger"
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>>87901389

I guess you mean "nigga", nigga
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It was a good movie but it spawned an incredibly cringey fanbase.
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>>87901958

But furries have been around a long time now
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>>87898171
its weird how little merch of this there. Did Disney not expect it to be a huge hit? Did the creators not want to make another marketing monster like frozen because it would pervert their art?
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did they ever answer why there were no zoos and lizards in zootopia?
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Im consumed
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>>87902665
>Did Disney not expect it to be a huge hit?
Essentially.
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It gave me a bunch of things I didn't ask for
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>>87902687
racism
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I had a choice between Zootopia and Norm of the North, I chose the latter. Did I fuck up?
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>>87902665

this movie got as much merchandise as Moana, however it's inaccurate because of that weird story with the rewrite, the movie probably costed twice as much to make that the chart says.
Movie did well at the B.O. only because furries saw it 10 times, that money didn't go to Disney but to cinemas, if the merch sold well we'd probably see new toys by now.

I'm sorry.
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>>87898171
there are threads on /trash/ since the movie came out
that says everithing
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>>87903198
holy weekend
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>>87898171
It had no business being as good as it was.

However, it did feel rushed in parts and was rough around the edges. Thoroughly enjoyed it, though.
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>>87904811
I always bring family movies to Thanksgiving
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>>87902687
Zootopia is a city in a mammalian nation-state.

Other branches of animal live in their own countries.

My headcanon (inb4 autistic) is that bats are like Hawaiians and live off in some archipelago near the bird nation.
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>>87903274
>if the merch sold well we'd probably see new toys by now

Precisely. Disney isn't stupid. They want to make money. Even if they don't expect something will be a success, once they realize it will generate profits, they will do everything to make money from it. If its a Disney product, then it probably was successful. That's why we have Frozen Rock Salt
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>>87905118
If it made all that money and no one is buying the merchandise, does that prove the furries saw it 10x theory? How do you profit off of the bunny besides making a sequel?
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I really liked it, but for some reason I dont want to watch it again.
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>>87903274
Zootopia merch on the Disney store website is a single page. Most stuff is for inifinty making it useless. Frozen has three pages with each page maxed out for the total number of items it can display

A lot of people would probably buy a Nick Wilde T-shirt. The crew even made their own T-shirts. Why can't you buy them?
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>>87898171
when will we get the Dark Ride? This might be one of the few examples where we can make our waifu real through audio-animatronics!
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>>87903274
The real problem with iir society are people like you, people who only have a general idea how things work and then oull the rest out of their ass and act like it was true.

The movie certainly did cost more, but nowhere near twice as much. The previous version was not even halfway done and they made the new one on time before release deadline.

Cinemas get relatively little of ticket money and earn their living on popcorn and drinks. There are professional sites like Forbes that wrote very informate articles about it, Google that. Short version: when it comes to blockbusters, what the studio actually earns usually oscilates around 50% of global earnings and 70% of US BO.

Moana has Lego sets. Fucking Lego. Zootopia really surprised them with that billion. The only reason there was no more merch was Finding Dory. They missed their chance at launch and then did not want to compete with their own 100% certain cash cow. It's business 101.

Zootopia still brought in about 500 million for Disney and about half of that is profit. The worst case scenario (costly re-do's) is they are STILL 200 million ahead. That's insanely good for a production disaster this movie almost was.

Oh, and no biggie, but this the third film in recent Hollywood history to break a billion without being a sequel or an adaptation of a popular story (book or fairy tale). The only other ones? Cameron's Avatar and Titanic.
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>>87905559
ok
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Watching it ten times in theatres was fun.
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>>87905559
it's too late to cash in on that movie, though, they blew it the moment they picked Shakira to sing. I remember when fanbase called it "the next lion king" , if anything this is "preachy robin hood".

Music sold Disney movies in the 90s , and the people think revival era started with Tangled forgetting there was that Bolt movie before.
Why? Musical of course.
>>87905169

Well, I saw it 5 times just for visuals alone.It was really nice experience. I'm a sucker for talking animals in movies, they're cuddly.
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>it's moana versus zootopia thread
You do realize that those movies was made by almost same people and same company?
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/pol/ ruined Jewish entertainment for me.

The original concept with the collars was about not being white and living in a western civilization without privilege. You can even watch the making of zootopia and near the end have a gay white dude say how privileged he is and an asian woman say how hard it is not being white and that she teacher her son about white privilege.
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>>87906015
>you can't compare how they treat monkeys and lions differently
>why?
>because they're both in a zoo so it doesn't matter how, DUH
lol retard
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>>87906043
All those disney movies talk is always about how much money they made, because usually they are so dull that there is nothing to talk about, besides money.
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>>87898927
They gutted a lot of content and soundtrack was part of it, although I think the music we had was alright in conveying emotions; stuff like this https://youtu.be/G2_U19d3z-Y?list=PLeGWJIkLfHeXTzDIedILwJuZMsewu7dcl was wasted in the credits of favor of Shakira
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>>87898171
Judy has a great pair of thighs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6rP-YP4c5I

Also, this fucking song got stuck in my head again...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7Br9p2f-Q
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>>87898171
meh, hard to fuck up a buddy cop movie, they wherent exactly shooting for the stars buts nce to see movies targeted at boys again be it wreck it ralph with videogames or thisone with cops there needs to be come actiony flick for all ages
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>>87904927
those kids are going to fucking die.
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>>87906144
I'm not sure anyone can be any dumber than this.
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>>87906034

Same boat my friend, I just wanted to know more about the move, not know it was going o be some extreme leftist propaganda dressed as a kid's flick.

Where the hell is world heading to?
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Get it, while it's hot!
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>shitting on Shakira
Who would you have instead? Katy Perry? Nicki Minaj? Adele?
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>>87907682
already pirated it B)
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>>87907682
Aaaannnndddd... it's gone.
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it was great but the part with the toucans creeped me the fuck out
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>>87907723

It's not Shakira, it's rather the song, Let it Go sold Frozen, Everything is Awesome(selfsatire of catchy songs) sold the Lego movie.

Its just not catchy enough
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>>87905826
I think I got you beat.
Anyone have a pic of those ticket stubs some guy posted on his facebook at the end of March. He was seeing it once & sometimes twice a day.
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>>87906223
anyone got a mega download link for the soundtrack?
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>>87899542
I wonder what exactly counted as dressing as your favorite animal. On the scale of "T shirt that's an animal's fur pattern" to "Full fursuit" what's the least amount of work I would have had to do for that?
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Best Disney movie since the Renaissance era.

>b-b-but furries!

I do not care about furries as it is not currently 2004.
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>>87901958
I don't know about that. Only time I've seen people talk about it, aside from people like OP that watch it for the first time late, was the first couple weeks after it was released.

Meanwhile people still go on about fucking Frozen where I live. Like what the hell?
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>>87898171
Whatever. 6/10. Though I should lower it for the forced and annoying propaganda.
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>>87898821
Never saw big hero 6. I thought it would have been a tier above Zootopia though. You sure about this? Frozen was definitely worse though.
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>>87898171
Loved it!

And b4 that "just a reminder" guy posts this, i'm looking to collect one of these if anyone sees one:
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>>87908290
if it felt forced, you were looking for the propaganda, sweetheart.
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>>87903274
>>87905118
I hear people, I mean offline like at work and shit, bitching about every Cars and Planes movie and wondering why they keep on making them yet they turn around and keep on buying Cars toys for their kids and in some cases grandkids.

>>87905169
>too far into make a movie to back out Disney starts to expect it to not be a hit so makes little to no merch
>no merch is sold because it's just not there
>when people ask about why there isn't a sequel Disney can just point to merch sales and blame consumers for not buying enough.

Though sometimes Disney is taken by surprise by a film being a hit. Back in the 90s they thought Pocahontas was going to be the big hit everyone was going to talk about for years to come and The Lion King was going to be the whatever movie people would forget but it'd make them enough cash to keep going and make Pocahontas and whatever other projects that wasn't announced at the time. Look how that shit turned out, they're still shitting out Lion King merch.
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>>87908359
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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>>87908299
Not that guy but if Zootopia is predictable then BH6 actually gives you real precognition. Every single moment can be predicted before it happens. It's best to turn off your brain for that movie and entertain yourself with the action if you want to enjoy it (and I'm usually not the kind of person who says that).
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>>87907723
I still have no idea who Shakira is.
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>>87908397
Then you have a comprehension problem. I can't help you.
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>>87908429
>Every single moment can be predicted before it happens.
Well I already have that problem with most media so that doesn't bother me. I've gotten too good at getting into the mind of the author.
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>>87908455
You're actually retarded.
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>>87908462
No, no, I get you. It happens a lot to people like us who enjoy all sorts of fiction. But BH6 is REALLY bad on that aspect.

Also, their ears are very under-detailed for some reason. Guess it's supposed to be "cartoony" but it doesn't work and it's hard to not be bothered by it.
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>>87898171
Incredible how even evil bellwether is adorable!
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>>87908290
It wasn't propaganda, "herbivores vs carnivores" is a very common thing in stuff like this and it only looks like that in the current political climate.

>>87908359
It really doesn't make sense.
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>>87900947
I don't think the Lion King is that good. I didn't even like it as a kid. I do like the sequel, though.
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>>87908513
Okay I understand. I might just read the synopsis and see a few scenes then. Thanks, buddy.
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>>87908616
It's still watchable, just don't expect to be amazed. It's sort of a good action movie, at least.
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>>87898171

It was good enough to fly five thousand miles for.
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>>87908731
I remember you..! :^)
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>>87909134
In the mountains.
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>>87908555
I did not see that coming desu
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>>87901285

Hmm, no?
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>>87909447
How??
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>>87898171
It turned about 75% of the board furry, so I think we liked it.
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>>87906242
haha , even if this sequence was not deleted , they would probably never allowed this long view of Judy's ass
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>>87906242
I still havn't figured what WillFanofMany's connection is to this movie and how he got this footage. Was he an animator on the film? These legit releases or smuggled footage? Whatever, I appreciate it all as it gives a wonderful insight into the evolution of the production of the film.
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>>87909543
Hard to say. I may have been overwhelmed at the intense amount of details and world building.
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>>87898171
Was pretty solid. Despite the cliche plot, had a lot of good characters, great visuals, and was never dull.

Also, we needed more Doug. That was one stone cold motherfucker.
>That shot into the limo
That was one bad dude. Makes his own product AND snipes like a boss.
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>>87909572
>implying
They've always been here, they just had an excuse to be furry "in public".
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>>87909725

dude, he complied all of the stuff from the bluray, documentary and tumblr of people who worked on the movie.

THEN he added some gay music and made his own version of the "original plot" and deleted scenes.

You know, your typical autistic fan.
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>>87906242
This would've a been a great movie if the story was about getting rid of the collars.
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>>87909974
Staff were leaking scenes on tumblr? Whoa. Didnt know that. Thanks for the info.
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>>87907682
Blue Dopia
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>>87908380
>>87908602

Lion King was simply the better musical (also it wasnt really an original story tbqh)

and Pocahontas had hilariously offensive song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2av9SQsMIi8
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>>87906242
what the fuck was wrong with disney
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>>87910264

this scene really made me uneasy when i was REALLY into the movie, you should check the archive at 5th april, we got sooo depressed that day.

long story short: previous zootopia was dystopian hellhole. They wanted to show racism in the most banal possible way.
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>>87910368
No thanks, I like Zootopia too much to even consider how close they were of fucking it up.
But do you have any other archives worth reading? I didn't have the time to browse 4chan all day during the zootopia threads but I really wish I had
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>>87910236
You just have to wonder why studio B isn't studio A.
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>>87898927
It truly was the ultimate redpill anime
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>>87910445

didnt katzenberg told them b team they're the worse team to motivate them?
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>>87900673
I was gonna say that. I recognized it right away.
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>>87910416
Lolwtf! I want that!!
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>>87910524
You should be over 18 years old to browse.
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>>87910236
>offensive
To whom?
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>>87910587
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>>87908290
>>>/pol/
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I thought it was funny. Girlfriend loved it too. I was looking for laughs and I found them and that's all I care about.
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>>87910397

Not really, And i dont want to tarnish my memories by digging into the past

ps. that day the documentary was released, Pixar's reaction to that "movie" was.. well.
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>>87910698
I spot Hillary Swinton in the background.
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>>87910368
I never even watched the documentary. I heard about it going up on Youtube, started downloading it, and while it was downloading I got around to reading the reaction posts from people who were already watching it, then decided that I could get along just fine without dwelling on ShockCollarTopia.
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Why the zootopia`s toxicologists are so shitty?
>an extremely common plant with known psychoactive properties.
>a lot of subjects that could be studied in detail
>it takes a cop to tell them what plant caused it
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>>87910760

well duh. it's all concept art you can find in the artbook or on the artist's blogs.

>>87910771

Good choice, not forcing you, as a casual viewer it really bothered me seeing "different" versions of characters i just fell in love with.

apparently it wasn't THAT scary, little rodentia reel (youtube) proves that.Fans just overreacted, myself included

Now i know it's simply part of the process of finding a good story in a new setting.
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>>87910820

Otterton knew.
Madge was alone.
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>>87910820
>northamerican doctors
>good
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>>87910977
Dude, the literal best doctors on the planet are in North America. People come from every corner of the earth to get procedures done here because of it.
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>>87911061

is the link to that "app" still working?

Shakira did good, Gazelle would look too thin dancing with this guy.
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>>87911122
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>>87911063
The best surgeons you mean. General care and diagnosis is shit if you don't have the money just to persuade them that you have the money.
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>>87905559
>Avatar and Titanic
>not adaptations
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makes no sense. but i like it.
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>>87911231
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>>87911238
You want someone as small as him with someone as big as her.
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>>87900958
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>>87910509
wow!
you're a real smart guy, aren't you?
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>>87910236
Nigga it was a bad guy song, you're not supposed to agree with it.
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>>87911332
What the Hell is your problem?
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>>87911353

ah well, the lirycs are hilarious.
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>>87910603
>>87911353
Probably meant "offensive to intelligence".
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>>87911363
what is your problem? nobody gives a fuck that you recognized some pasta form a 10 hour old post. don't spam threads with examples of your "awesome" and "impressive" knowledge of mlp pastas, save it for your blog instead
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>>87911420
This and the next year are actually supposed to be unlucky for the rabbit.

>>87911480
I'm not even that guy. This shit is uncalled for.
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At this point I just wanted it to become some kind of zombie splatter movie with a virus degenerating the mammals into their savage pasts.
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>>87911523
it's not uncalled for. he's being a faggot and setting an example for other people to follow. since there are no usernames on this website there is no need to brag about how much useless shit you know.

my main problem tho is that he's wrong. he claims it's an EQG pasta but it's not. it's a pasta related to rumors circulating during that time of an MLP feature film. EQG wasn't announced until much later.

and yes, I do have autism and this triggers me
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>>87903198
it is impossible to fuck up as hard as you just have. Hide. The good taste police are out to find you. you are no longer safe. Run.
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>>87910891

yeah, it reminds me of the process they went through for the first toy story where Wood was this evil mother fucker that despised Buzzlight year, and he was completely unsympathetic.
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>>87911654
That's no brag, he's just going "hey, I recognized it too" because that's something people do, even in this site. Also, calling it the "EqG pasta" is easier than "that pasta about the rumors of an MLP movie" and anybody who knows the context can understand it either way.

You're not just autistic, you're an idiot. You know what "triggers" me? Idiots pretending and failing to be smart.
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check'd
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>>87910771

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmYX20YaD-Y
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>>87900958
I'm surprised this is allowed in Russia.
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>>87910368
So in the original version predators were forced to wear shock collars since puberty?
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>>87911654
Go back to /a/
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>>87913896
pretty much, they went full orwell with it, kid's were brainwashed "it's for your own good", you can't get angry or you'll get shocked, or happy, or excited.
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>>87914137
A fine taste in beefcake.
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>>87911061

Those fuckin' tiger eyes.
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goodnight, thread.
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Goodnite senpai
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>>87914747
They were shameless with how homoerotic they made her back up dancers
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>>87900958
>there were professional photographers taking pictures and video of this
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>>87910416
Huh. I wonder if someone out there owns one of these dolls, a pair of scissors, and a fleshlight...
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>>87915737

I guess they were thinking 50/50, huh?
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>>87898171
It's good. You should stop avoiding it.
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>>87898171

Good, but thats it.
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Judy is not made for sexual. She's too adorable.
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>>87915905
Lol.
Well, my google-fu must be nonexistant, I can't find those anywhere. Just the small plushs
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>>87918010
>adorable
Yoooo, hold back on that racism
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>>87911026
and she looks at me
and I look at her
and she looks at me
and I look at her
and she looks at me and I look at her
and she looks at me and I look at her
and she looks at me and I look at her
and she looks at me and I look at her
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>>87915737
The proper term is "bara", you ignorant fuckhead
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>>87910523
Kinda retarded that a simple prank fucked him up for life
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>>87911100
the added fact that she's asian
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>>87908290
I give a 9/10. Hell, I saw the leftist Social Justice seeping out of the whole "wants to be an elephant when he grows up" and "token bunny" crap, and I just didn't give a shit. It's an enjoyable movie, and the message is so vague beyond "racism is bad", that it is entirely agreeable regardless.
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>>87907723
Adele as a hippo would have been fantastic
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>>87912060
sequel has a cruella deville type prey villain who is killing mammals for their fur. Maybe a lizard. Wants to turn Nick into a scarf
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I thought it was a good bait&switch, the first 15 mins had "muh token bunny" and "muh fox elephant" then as soon as she met nick and his based "no one cares what you do or your dreams and no one ever will" the film got better and better

It taught stereotypes exist for a reason, but at the end of the day people are individuals so you shouldn't be shocked if someone doesn't fit their stereotype, and that dreams don't just magically happen - you have to work for it
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>>87913896
it was a lot like psychopass actually
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>>87920503
What's going on here? Is Nick getting sexually harassed by his boss?
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>>87920676
It's a "if the character personalities were different" thing.
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>>87920266
I think this movie is both blue and red pilled. Depending on your world view, the moral can be interpreted as such.
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>>87898171

Great movie.

There was also a pleasant lack of furries in the theater when I saw it. And, by pleasant lack, I mean there were fucking none.
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>>87908555
My cropped porn sense is tingling
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>>87899824
I'm glad /co/ still talks about MLP official media more than /mlp/ does.
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>>87909725
>>87909974

WRONG!

You can find all the stuff on Vimeo because that's where the people who worked on the film have accounts. They did it for reels and proof of concepts
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>>87921034
>a still crop of a year old thread proves we talk more about /mlp/ than the one of the fastest traffic boards does
?
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>>87919792
>it was just a prank, bro
In context it was basically a hate crime
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>>87906387
>>87911699
Just got back from my senpai's house and they fucking hated it, had to turn it off prematurely. I should have listened lmao ;_;
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>>87921549
What did you think was going to happen?
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>>87921776
>1776
god bless

And I brought Finding Dory with me just in case but they've already seen that, I had no choice since they were expecting a movie.
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>>87920735
Nick isn't a ravenclaw. More of a Hufflepuff
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>tfw humans are predators
>Zootopia's original script
Would you want to live in the original Zootopia as a human, knowing you'll have to wear the tame collars?
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>>87922559
Not really.

Being a human in the Zootopia universe would suck innately because humanity's premiere exceptional quality in our universe is that we're capable of higher thought.

But that's pretty common in Zootopiverse; we'd be the butt monkeys of society. Inability to exhibit emotion would be the icing on the suck cake
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I was pleasantly surprised with how flawed the main character was for a children's move.

And the whole podium scene made me sad. But I'm a a bitch when it comes to those kind of scenes.
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>>87923013
>we'd be the butt monkeys of society.
Literally. Without natural defenses like claws or impressive strength to defend themselves humans would probably be stuck doing menial labor and working as sex slaves.
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>>87923013
What if in their universe humans were comparatively smarter too?
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>>87923173
A rolled up newspaper and you'd be king of Zootopia by lunch
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>>87923267
>rolled up newspaper against water buffalo and lions
You're welcome to try.
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>>87923280
just smack the nose and talk down to them
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>>87923267
>brandish a rolled up newspaper
>get tased and arrested for assault
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>>87921044

AND vimeo. i overlooked that one.
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>>87923146
Me too. It was very smart how they handled prejudice for the most part and how we got to see a protagonist who claims to be above letting fear dictate her actions acting out of fear.
My problem with the scene was that we saw why Nick was so triggered when it wasn't too long ago that we saw the muzzle scene. We didn't need to be reminded by a flashback. What we did need reminding of was Judy's fight with Gideon. Nick triggered her too, but we should be smart enough to know that that doesn't excuse her. We all saw how she grabbed the fox spray at the beginning, so we know that this fear isn't random, but a flashback to Gideon would let us know that her fear wasn't something in her bunny instincts.
They probably did it the way they did it do that there'd be no mistake that Nick wasn't just being a touchy jerk while Judy is the only victim here.
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>>87923543
More like get darted. I really wished they kept darts in.
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>>87898171
now that the dust has settled and emotions are less shitty, have we as a race decided if we want the fox and the bunny to be friends or to fuck?
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>>87923233
Then we'd be running shit I guess and everyone else, herbivores included, would probably be wearing the collars
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>>87924537
Foxes are omnivores like humans. So we'd be in the collars
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>>87924519
Well the movie couldn't keep Trump from winning so I guess that means they're just friends.
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>>87924561
Our intelligence enables us to be running things in our own universe. If we were comparitively smarter in Zootopiverse, we'd still be running shit
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>>87906034
>>87906034
>extreme leftist propaganda
what the fuck are you talking about?

the movie's message is "don't hate niggers" not "rise up against the bourgeois" or "kill all the crackers race war now" it's literaly the most softball anti racism message out there.
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>>87910397
>fucking it up
We would have gotten minority report with animals. That shit would have been awesome.
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>>87924519
Humans as a race are instinctually driven to be greedy and therefore as a species we would want both
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>It taught stereotypes exist for a reason, but at the end of the day people are individuals so you shouldn't be shocked if someone doesn't fit their stereotype, and that dreams don't just magically happen - you have to work for it
THIS.
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As an allegory to real-life Racism it doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm still not sure who was persecuting who in the end. And the movie doesn't seem to acknowledge that Judy's issues stem entirely from being small, and not from being a herbivore.


Also I'm really starting to get tired of Disney's "surprise" villain trend. Their all so lame.

That being said as a standard buddy cop show its fairly decent, and the characters are very likeable. Also this was the movie that finally warmed me up to CGI animation, the landscapes are beautiful.
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>>87920941
itsunknownanon.tumblr.com

You do the rest.
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>>87921549
Liar.
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>>87923013
>premiere
it's not the only one. it's just that you don't notice the others because our society evolved to the point that they aren't nessesary anymore.

humans were never the fastest sprinters but we had amazing stamina old human hunter-gathers were able to keep rmoving for days and didn't get heat stroke because our lack of fur lets dissipate heat better than other animals.

early human tribes used their superior stamina to chase herds of prey for miles wait for them to get tired and then kill them. faster sprinters might have been able to out speed them in the beginning but the hunters would eventually over take them.
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>>87925334
>I'm still not sure who was persecuting who in the end
That's how it is in reality too. Those who are "privileged" are also victims of prejudice. That's the point.
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>>87898171
one of my favorite movies in a long time
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>>87920566
>It taught stereotypes exist for a reason,
I think you might have missed the point
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>>87906034
The problem with that thinking is that you have to believe that the world is truly color and gender blind. "Don't judge a book by it's cover" is a decent moral that coincides with the idea of "anyone can be anything" which in the end means that that friendly politician could be a self serving sociopath.

>>87906777
>Where the hell is world heading to?
Disney made a movie about how prejudice is bad. Oh no.
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>>87925521
Right, and regurgitating nice phrases and knowing that prejudice is wrong doesn't make you free from prejudice. Setting an example is the most powerful thing you do.
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>>87925547
How so? He's right.
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>>87925781
Exactly, people who claim to fight prejudice tend to be massive hypocrites.
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>>87924852
To their credit, there's also the "all dem crimes were just staged by racists, we dindu nuffin".

Otherwise yeah, they played it really soft. Hell it's part of the reason the original script got axed.
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>>87925853
They can be, but Judy's final message about "trying" almost excuses the white liberal ally who will spend more energy defending dreadlocks than they will put into social justice warrioring.

It doesn't ignore the harm of prejudice, it just goes one step further than other open and shut works of fiction which will often oversimplify the complex issue.
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>>87925976
It's more like "Race riots are instigated and inflamed by politicians who stand to benefit from racial agitation". Which is very true in recent years.
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>>87925941
Clawhauser was depicted as offensively gay.
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>>87926059
"Try to make the world a better place" is so Milquetoast a message it can apply to anything.
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True.

Endtown crossover when?
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>>87926096
But he's straight, a massive fag but he likes girls
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>>87910977
Oh yeah, I can't tell you how many times I've heard that classic line. "I gotta go over seas... there are no good doctors in America."
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>>87926096
Clawhauser was just offensive to look at period
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>>87908555
Why crop this? It's not all that obviously NSFW
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>>87926185
But it's true. I know of people who had to get attended in Mexico of all places to get proper medical service.
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no he isn't. the movie was about how it's wrong to be prejudiced towards people but

>It taught stereotypes exist for a reason

is the excuse people use to justify being prejudiced towards a group of people because it means that the stereotype is the norm and that the ones that don't follow it are the exceptions.

and it's also not even shown in the movie. I don't think that any of the characters except for nick really follow the stereotypes that you would expect from their species.
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Judy's thighs have literally ruined me as a human being
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>>87926759
Are you delusional? All the animals alternated between following their stereotypes and defying them. Stereotypes are not entirely bad, you just have to be aware that they're right as much as they're wrong.
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>>87926810
Dat icewall climb tho
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>>87899542
It looks like a promotion for kids, so probably something basic.
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>>87926950
Ah yes.. and the chair on her 1st day at work.
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>>87927184
Rabbits don't do anything for me but there were definitely a few moments I was like "damn, she got da booty"
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>>87926657
People go to Mexico for cheaper service, not better service
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>>87898171
tore my life down to the bare foundations and made me feel joy for the first time in many years

one of those movies that is just so astounding that it makes you wonder how flawed human beings are able to create things that are so beautiful
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>>87928483
Now the only question is what animal would he be?
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>humans are predators

No humans started out as scavengers and became omnivorous, meaning we don't necessarily need meat, but we can live off it. Even cows will sometimes eat little chicks but that doesn't make them the equivalent of foxes. Most of our "predation" is all industrial and done by manufactured instruments, meaning even Judy Hopps could be "a predator" in the same way we are, all she would need is the same instruments we use to be predators ourselves.
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>>87928502
>Now the only question is what animal would he be?

https://twitter.com/DonaldTrunkZtp
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>>87928630
That's pretty shitty.
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>>87928600
Uh no we're predators. Eyes forward baby! Find me another creature that takes a sharp stick and jogs down an antelope over the course of several hours.
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>>87926848
Exactly! The point was, "stereotypes are sometimes based on real things, but that doesn't justify treating everyone like a stereotype"
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Bellwether a cute! Cute cute!
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What happened to that small dog with big ears and funny deep voice?
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He was given a big breakfast.
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>>87919792
His mum scrapped what little money she could to give him the opportunity to be a cub scout, his childhood dream, he was looking for acceptance and friendship instead he found hate and a muzzle, fucking kids I kind of relate to him, kids are evil
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>>87926185

Oh yes, because all I hear over here is "I sure need to go overseas to get that glorious US healthcare".
Actually here people mainly choose France/Switzerland/Germany for specialized healthcare outside our reach (mainly because we lack resources, and not professional expertise), and when we do need to go overseas, the most sought after healthcare is, maybe to your surprise, cuban, not american.
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>>87929338

Kids just don't see consequences of their moves.I wish this story was told 10 years ago, I relate too. All this time wasted.Nothing but escapism.
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>>87898171
good, but preachy.
I enjoyed the hell out of it, but the moral is just one of those ones it's like. "the only people who are gonna listen, are the ones who already agree with it."
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>>87923013
Humans are the best endurance runners on the planet
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>>87902687

For the story of Zootopia they wanted to make sure the line between predator and prey was established. Adding reptiles and birds would make the line blurry
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>>87920266
Man you dumb.

The predator/prey dynamic does not equate 100% to any social issue we have. FFS predators appear to generally occupy positions of power in Zootopia.
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>>87929338
I wish they had clarified what happened to his mom. Like he lives under a bridge because he pays for a really nice retirement home for her.
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I just whatched it for the first time recently. Over all, I really liked it, but I have to say; I really didn't like Jason Bateman's performance. He's so emotionless.
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>>87931142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2b_8qnNbCQ
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I'm just glad NIght Howler bullets look like blueberries. Could you imagine how fucked the script would be if they resembled strawberries?
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>>87931142

the more people talk about this movie the more flaws they find, at the beginning some people weren't sold on the bunny's voice either.

but what did you expect from the secondary movie of the year?
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>>87927400
Not the same anon, but people actually go because it is cheap and GOOD. There are some shady places (that not even the locals use), but most of the hospitals and clinics are regulated by international standards. They tend to use high quality equipment and medical staff is required to be very knowledgeable and experienced.
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>>87898171

I liked it. It tried to be preachy, sure, but if you consider the lessons of what they have shown, instead of what they have said...

- People are idiots and assholes even when they don't intend to be.
- Racism exists because people are in fact different.
- Crime pays.
- Police are generally incompetent, as well as more concerned with bureaucratic feuds and avoiding actual work than helping the public.
- Politicians are lying conspirators, at best they are only concerned with looking good in public's eye, at worst actively instigate civil unrest to grab power.
- The person you absolutely have to be on good terms with if you want to get anywhere in life is your local mafia boss.
- Elaborate conspiracies usually fall apart because people are so unpredictable and uncooperative that they won't go along and even if you do succeed, it can all come crashing down in a moment's notice.
- The way to get the girl is to be an asshole, and the way to keep her is to demonstrate convincingly that you need her less than she needs you. Heartfelt confessions and willingness to help will earn you nothing.
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>- The way to get the girl is to be an asshole, and the way to keep her is to demonstrate convincingly that you need her less than she needs you. Heartfelt confessions and willingness to help will earn you nothing.
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>>87932607
That's what happened in the movie, however. Like, literally the next scene after Nick decided he now has a shoulder to cry on, Judy shat on his feelings in a way that demonstrated that she paid no attention whatsoever to his words.
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>>87932732

it was a decision between "what she thinks it's right" and "what she actually should do".
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>>87932780
No, it wasn't. Under a sudden pressure, she blabbered the first thing that came to her mind. But that's not even relevant to my point. What's relevant is the fact that until Nick exploded in her face she didn't even realize that she may be hurting him.

Amount of Judy thought devoted to Nick's confession: zero.

Moral of the episode: if a girls makes a sad face when you tell her your sob story that doesn't mean she gives a fuck about your feelings.
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>>87932863

i'd suggest you to watch one of the later parts of the documentary.
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>movie set in a world where there is a bland majority and a minority that is seen as more dangerous and violent
>minorities are acting more violent than normal
>majority becomes afraid of minority group
>character points out that maybe the majority should be cautious about the minority group
>gets told about how wrong that is, even if minorities are being violent
>the eventually find out that it's the majority group making the minorities violent so they can control them

Wow good movie guys. That's a narrative I've never heard before
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>>87932930
>Character leaves home
>Goes to place
>Faces conflict at place
>solves conflict
>Hapy ending

Bravo Disney.
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>>87932930

i dont have the hustle one. so i will use this.
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>>87928898
Lol. "And There She Is"
Cute... I like it.
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>>87932893
I suggest you try to provide an alternate explanation and moral for the scene based on what was actually shown in the movie, if you don't like mine.

Everything that wasn't in the movie is not relevant, and saying that it is insults the script writer. Good fiction is self-containedn - it requires no additional explanations or supplemental materials to understand the story. If a piece of fiction does need them, it is not good.
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>>87932956
Oh yeah, it's originality I was complaining about it
Yeah, that's the problem
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>>87932567
>demonstrate convincingly that you need her less than she needs you
Except that isn't what happened. Nick showed he did need her, and had his heartfelt confession and even though there were some twists and turns, in the end he still gets the girl.
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>>87933057
>Except that isn't what happened

That exactly what happened.

>Nick showed he did need her, and had his heartfelt confession

And immediately, in the very next scene after that, Judy demonstrated that this confession meant absolutely nothing to her.

Therefore the exact moment when Nick's feelings suddenly started meaning something to Judy is easy to pinpoint. That happened when he turned his back on her and walked away.
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>>87905826
>>87929514
Huh. I think there's a guy on the zootopia discord channel who's seen it 20 times.
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>>87898171
It was good, but leagues behind Toy Stories, Incredibles and Wall-E.
I'd rank it somewhere with Over the Hedge.
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>>87898965
aw yiss chkn lttl
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>>87905050
>bats are like Hawaiians and live off in some archipelago near the bird nation.

I can totally see that
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>>87898797
I didn't care much for it, but it annoys me how much furries claim anything that has a talking animal in it as "furry"
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>>87934921

there's sooome truth to this though, the creator of this movie is practically a furfag

but who cares, i loved talking animals since I saw Around the world with Willy Fog.
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>>87935021
The characters don't really look like what is conventionally a furry though, just animals wearing clothes. I just mean in general, however. I'm not 100% knowledgeable on this movie or its creators
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>>87935089

true, they're cartoons just modeled in 3d.

your typical furry "artist" draws a human with animal head, tail and matching skin tone.
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It was generic and boring. looked like an episode of something from the 80's stretched to a boring movie format.
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>>87928741
>Find me another creature that takes a sharp stick and jogs down an antelope over the course of several hours.

But that's the point. We're not engineered to do that, we choose to, that's why we have to make a sharp stick. Anything in Zootopia could technically make a sharpened stick and do the exact same, that doesn't mean everything in Zootopia is a predator. Also our eyes are forward because we're primates.
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>>87935236
>generic and boring
>never before was there a modern talking animals story about political intrigue that's a commentary on prejudice that is also a buddy cop story

Okay sure. It's something you've seen befur.
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>>87933916
He's the best.
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>>87935965
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>>87936101
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>this movie is slowly turning you into a furry

Please end it all
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>>87936392

I have a question for you:

What was the first furry movie:

-Robin Hood
-Animalypics
-Secret of Nimh

?
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>>87899824
plant our tiny seed
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>>87936466

Secret of Nimh?
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>>87936818

NONE.

all of these movies are for general audience, not "for" or "by" furries.

"Oh no, I'm a furry now because i liked a movie with talking animals", drop it. Stop thinking that.
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>>87936971

But Judy was pretty cute, though.
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>>87936971
I'm with this guy. The team behind zootopia worked hard to ensure that the bipedal animal characters were actually just bipedal animals. Rather than following re furry style of just giving animal features on top of human anatomy, the characters in the movie are just the animals we know in real life. Calling it a furry movie is like calling The Force Awakens a trekkie movie.
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>>87898927
>actually features racism
what is it with people and racism?
why can't it be prejudice and leave it at that?
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>>87937069

my family's dog cute too. i like her. and that's it.
>>87937166

no no, it was about biases, according to the documentary.
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>>87937166
They use the word "racism" in the documentary and reference the study using a class of white kids and treating half of them like blacks.
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>>87935206
>>87937080
While it may be the typical style to draw human anatomy with animal faces/features, that doesn't mean that there isnt a style of furry art that is akin to what was in Zootopia.

If the definition of a 'furry movie' is one that was made for the 'furry community' (try reading that without shuddering), then there is no such thing as one. Zootopia, Robin Hood (the Disney version) and other stories featuring anthropomorphic animals are quite often made for general audiences.

Zootopia is an animated movie aimed at families. But it's no surprise the furries are drawn to it and will 'claim' it as such
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Sorry if this has been discussed before but I just watched this. Thanksgiving and family and all. So a bunny is laughed at for wanting to be a police officer because she's too little. Literally towers over mice in an area the larger police can't go.

Did they not think through the story? Did they think kids are stupid and won't notice? Even a show for kids should be internally consistent but to make a movie about muh equality trumps logic I guess.
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>>87938096
Think of it like weight classes in wresting/fighting. Judy is too large to police Little Rodentia (she could have very easily injured or even killed one of the residents in her chase) therefore she is put in the 'general weight class' where she is considerably smaller than the general public
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>>87938351
I didn't catch that at all from the story. And where's the mice or bunny police? They don't have them? They don't need them? Carnivores go down to the size of insects.
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everyone either wants to fuck the fox the bunny or both with the finnick watching and j-ing off
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...next, Judy should have an access to a time machine
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>>87938737
>I didn't catch that at all from the story.
The fact that she chased Weaselton into Little Rodentia is the whole reason Chief Bogo is mad at her when she gets back to the police station. By following him in, he continued to flee with no regard to the safety of the citizens and were it not for some close saves from Judy, some of the mice could have died. Weaselton would not have been trying to topple buildings and overall endanger the public if Judy had not followed him into the area. Catching a vegetable thief would not be worth the lives of the mice.

>And where's the mice or bunny police? They don't have them? They don't need them?
I'm pretty sure they do have mice police. Or it's possible Mr. Big keeps things quiet in Little Rodentia so as to keep the police away

And bunnies are large enough to be policed by larger animals
>Carnivores go down to the size of insects.
I'm not understanding the point of this one
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>>87930158
i disagree. i was racist AF before I saw zootopia, now I've deeply simmered down




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