>>87344278The detail was amazing. I think it was a good decision to change the point of view from Nick to Judy in order to lighten the mood of the film.I hope that all the mindless bureaucracy and inter-office politics don't grind down Judy's hope and optimism.
The worldbuilding was a lot more interesting than the story itself.
>>87344278Thought it was great. Can't wait for the sequel.
Worse than Moana
Besides the forced politically correct terminology, I thought it was pretty damn good.
I enjoyed it quite a bit and appreciated the level of craftsmanship put into the setting as a whole. Really made the world come alive more than a cast of celebrity VOs could. I even bought the book.That said, I find I spend most of my time in these threads perversely shipping the living hell out of Nick and Judy.
>>87344278Great art, fun script. The world building was so great that you forget it's a city of talking animals and four completely different ecosystems.No real weaknesses, all around good film.
Pretty boring, desu."What if animals did people things" has been done to death.
>>87344499nice meme, guys.
>>87344707I know that it's been done since cartoons began but the issue that I find is its trying to tackle a human issues, racism, to creatures that are so different from each other to try to call them equal.
I agree with everything said above, it's a pretty solid movie, but they violate this rule here a couple times.
>>87344842i was one of the first guys hyped over this movie, made few memes, hyped people with that silly billion "ladder" thingie, then reality hit like a brick.Just enjoy what we got, a good movie about talking animals (with meh music, Moana will be exact opposite).
Judy just got a ton more attractive knowing she would vote for Trump. No doubt Hillary would remind her of Bellwether with all of the corruption.
>>87344552Zootopia will fuck FEEL THE ETHNIC shitskin Moana in the box office, just like it fucked Finding Faggot Dory despite having a fraction of the marketing budget and promotional effort.Moana must fail if Zootopia is to survive
>>87344907>good movie with meh music, Moana will be exact oppositeSo... shit movie with great music?
>>87344933>>87344945exactly. It will be just like Frozen.
>>87344552>Talking animals vs brown people movieNah m8
>>87344802The inherent differences of the animals had very little, if not nothing, to do with the theme of prejudice. The setting of Zootopia was clearly built to suit everyone's differences. The theme was almost entirely focused on the dichotomy of prey and predators.
>>87344278Nothing special. Not bad but not that great either.I'm assuming the popularity is mostly furries, right?
>>87344278I want to fuck the bunny.....oh the movie was pretty good.
two hours of animals badmouthing each other with a fox acting like a complete faggot.
>>87345003just one catchy song will do, and BAM you've got a hit.
>>87344980You mean two movies about talking aNo, too easy
>>87345784exactly. Zootopia had, like what, Shakira?who listens to her anymore?
>>87345784But thats legit catchy, not pop garbage
preachy and blatantly political
>>87344463>I galleon nick & judyi don't get it
>>87346005still, would show it to my kids>>87344383yeah, that was my favorite part too, shame about these unused locations, but they weren't needed for the story.
So the predators were supposed to be niggers and shitskins, right?
>>87345398WHO IS DRIVING?
>>87345784So this movie is about pacific Island Herakles?
>>87344933>Moana must fail if Zootopia is to survivewhat
>>87346142Foxes were obviously gypsies
>>87346142yes, but that was in the SJW version>>87346162it's the TLK vs Pocahontas meme someone created.
>>87344278An honest 10/10 movieBut that music video at the end was weird. It made me really uncomfortable when that all those shirtless tigers were dancing. I feel like that scene would have been better if it was Gazelle singing but instead it panned to each character doing a little dance to the song in their respective spot (like the fat leopard at his desk)
>>87344278Honest thought: there's nothing to talk about. Really.
>>87344278Anthro characters in every other movie just look like shit to me now.
>>87346349frozen: "muh snow"zootopia; "muh fur"moana: "muh water"when you have shitload of money you can pull off such stuff, i prefer engaging stories.
Honest thought: Good movie.A world of exceptional qualityExtremely attractive charactersIt was the tinsiest bit boring, but that doesn't derail the whole thing. Can't wait for the sequel.
>>87346428>sequelyou really bieleve in that? what kind of story you could tell in same city so it wont feel like retelling?
>>87346497something about building a wall to keep the reptiles out
Disney's Black Lives Matter.
>>87346497Maybe go to the bird town, the reptile town, the aquatic creature townFucking anywhere
>>87346497Literally anything. Did you watch a movie set in New York and think "How could they possibly make another movie set in this city?"
It turned me uinto a furry
>>87346497Buddy cop movies get sequels all the time.
>>87344278It was fucking good.
>>87346567You were always a furry, Anon. It was right there, in your heart, the whole time.A WHOLE NEW WOOOOOOOOORRRRLD
>>87346634>that voice acting
>>87346674Maybe but I've never fapped to it before I watched Zootopia
Fully enjoyed it.Loved the racial undertones and how both carnivores and herbivores made a grey area of both sides being discriminated and how both sides had their own sensitivities to consider.Damn good buddy cop move that actually deserves the "Lets give Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks an award even though animation is a medium and not a genre just so it can never touch Best Picture and ruin our adult movies for adults like us" awardDamn shame Moana gonna steal it from Zootopia just for being far more fresh in voters minds
>>87346688/trash/ seems to give Shakira a pass because she's the reason Gazelle has hips at all.
>>87346806yeh, it was released too early. just like the other great movie that got snubbed by... uh...
>>87346806>Damn shame Moana gonna steal it from Zootopia just for being far more fresh in voters mindsAlso Moana will have songs. People in this day and age WILL meme the fuck out of at least one of them to whore themselves for views and celebrity status after what happened with Frozen
I liked all the little details. Amazing the movie turned out as well as it did considering they scrapped the whole fucking thing so late in production.
>>87345784I don't know how anyone can find abbos interesting.
>>87346922yah, how much of it was actually animated and rendered?
Didn't live up to the hype for me at allThe city was pretty cool looking though and I enjoyed that whole chase through the mouse city
>People think it won't get a sequel after making a BILLION FUCKING DOLLAREEDOOS
>>87347019It will get a sequel.I just really don't want it to.Let it become a timeless classic in it's own right instead of Shreking this shit.
>>87347019Awards, man. It's about the awards. If Zootopia doesn't win an Oscar it's not going to get a sequel, and we've seen that the Oscar committee votes on animation like fucking idiots: whatever is fresh in their minds will win, and Moana will be fresh in their minds and thus get the most votes (of the people who do vote, since most people abstain because they think watching animated movies is fucking beneath them, the snobs).
>>87347103>>87347019i think a short or two in the unused locations would suffice without tarnishing the original.
>>87347103A sequel would be good. Now they have sure footing in the world they made and can focus on a better story and take their time. Fuck a series though>>87347121ONE BILLIONRICHARD NIXON FUNBUCKS Unless Disney suddenly decided they hate money they'll make another one>>87347155That would be a waste of a rich world
>>87346922Why is an entire district of the city called a "square"? That's stupid.
>>87347214>>87347155you'll have your comics. sadly Zootopia is not as popular as you think.
>>87347237Shut up, nerd
>>87347214Sequel would be ok, but it probably wouldn't have the same kind of sudden profoundness that made Zootopia stick out in collective mind.
>>873472503 MINUS 2MILLION WITH A BSACAGAWEAS
>>87347237It's a big square you dink
>>87347250Popular enough in the markets their accountants count on.
>>87347250The problem is its way more popular than Disney thinks.
>>87347280there are two kinds of animated sequels:"more of the same" and "comedy relief gets the spotlight"both suck.
>>87347398Maybe among the internet weirdo crowd
>>87347214>ONE >BILLION>RICHARD NIXON FUNBUCKSThe Lion King made close to one billion dollars, and at the time it WAS the most successful animated film ever released until Finding Nemo. Even so, it remains to this day one of the highest grossing animated films of all time.What did it get? Two direct to video sequels.
>>87347449rightso let me give disney more money for a sequel
>>87347465I'm sure they've learned from their mistakes.
Sucks that Zootopia won't be in the next Kingdom Boysu Ravu
>>87347465gettin the jungle book treatment tooThough I guess thats most of them by now.>>87347675RIP
>>87344278The real tragedy of Zootopia is knowing that Judy had exactly 3 bad days in Zootopia before she was a hero while Nick lived there for 20 year and an had an awful life
>>87347853Nick is a literal millionaire. Shit was going pretty well for him when we saw him. Yeah tragic flashbacks and whatevs but it got better.
>>87347853More then that. After Nick leaves the city goes to shit over the course of at least a few weeks and the whole time she blames herself.
>>87347853that was the point, to show kids bullying is bad.
>>87347914>Nick is a literal millionaireI'm pretty sure he was bullshitting.
>>87347914>Nick is a literal millionaire. Shit was going pretty well for him when we saw him.What exactly was Nick spending his hustle money on if he was living under a fucking bridge?
>>87347914>Nick is a literal millionaire.It seems to be eaten by his expenses somehow.
>>87344278While it is multiculturalism dribble its actually logical, because see there are only a couple animals that have what is called the sadistic instinct or the pleasure created by the suffering of others, the animals shown here lack it thus if they became intelligent they create a utopian civilization that has only has to worry about conmen when it comes to crime.The sadistic animals are:HumansDolphinsOrcasElephantsChimpsBonobos
>>87348012Zootopia was hardly multicultural. It was multi-ethnic, but nobody seemed to actually have different ethos.
>>87348012>Zootopia sequel set in Aquatopia and they're chasing a serial rapist dolphin
>>87347914Only if you go by a definition that everyone who has earned $50k a year for twenty years is a "millionaire". We usually only count it if they have a net worth of over a million at a given time, and unless he's Scrooging all his cash into a bin somewhere and stealing/scamming his way into free living expenses the entire time, fairly good chance that his cash on hand is far, far less than a million.
>>87348076>Penguins of Madagascar had a villain that was a dolphin who was doing it for the evulzHoly shit
>>87346558I don't think they can leave the city though. There is so much we didn't see of Zootopia in the first movie. Its designed to be explored by the viewers. That's why it's such a great movie to re-watch. It would be a waste if in the sequel Nick and Judy went to another city when we haven't seen even close to all of Zootopia.I would like to see Nick and Judy ride on the back of a Golden Eagle and fly through the city. And considering the history of Disney theatrical sequels involving anthropomorphized animal partners who are in will-they won't-they relationships, that might be pretty close to what we get
>>87347914yea and Skinner paints houses during the summer so he's a billionaire
>>87348146I just want to see the ice cream joints in the fox part of town.
>>87348146all the locations and characters had enough screentime, sure there was more, but it like concept that "that was needed that was not"
>>87348201is there a joke here I'm missing? Do the cones look like bunnies and the foxes lick them?
>>87348267i think you need to rewatch the movie
>>87344976there should be a scene in Moana where we see a Fox chasing a rabbit
>>87344278Birds of prey have been known to eat mammals as large as Foxes and Rabbits. I'd like to see Judy and Nick on equal footing of the food chain. Maybe a scene where one of them is going to be eaten and the other needs to save them
>>87348267Merely somewhere where the waitresses look like foxes.
>>87348421Chocolate factory fight. Judy falls into a vat and Nick thinks she's been turned into a real chocolate bunny
>>87348491A lot of the regional release date timing for the movie was to take advantage of local school holidays. In Japan, they waited until right before the Golden Week holdiays.
>>87344278so the original film was going to be about Zorro with animals. Since Zorro means The Fox, would the movie have been sexy Zorro Nick?
>>87348511ahh, makes sense.https://vimeo.com/185752466thought this had something to do with recent reveal in korea, guess i'i was just projecting
>>87348559no, the original film was going to be about a spy bunny
>>87348592it was one of the movies that was pitched
Would you still ship Nick and Judy if they were both guys? Or girls?
>>87348634this is 4chan, that would just make everyone ship them harder
The plot was pretty thin and seemed rushed. The mayor was a shitty red herring and everything indicating him being a bad guy hinged on how he treated his assistant, the ACTUAL bad guy. It didn't give a very good into police methodology despite the whole movie being about cops, and what the hell was up with Judy Hopp's police training montage? She was pitiful, but reading a book somehow made up for her lack of strength and allowed her to cheese through the tests despite not being at all qualified?I suppose the message there is that everyone can be anything they want to be. But that's a bad lesson and wrong. Shakira had no reason to be in the movie, it felt like when Home tried to save Rihanna's career. Needless and forced. The whole thing ending in a dance number/concert with a song that advocates "doing everything" regardless of illegality or danger was lame.
>>87348668What about this
>>87348634I don't ship them now. Would not ship them as guys definitely because it's gay as fuck. Would probably not ship them if they were both girls either, for I might be a yurifag, but I'm not really that much of a furry.
>>87348703this.they're BFF. but fandom gotta fandom.
>>87348703>I don't ship them nowOpen your heart. Let the love in.
I'm gonna say itMoana is hotter than Judy
This shitty movie was hella racist. Not a single bird person.
>>87348677Agreed, Zootopia didn't into what could have been a good cop movie but ended up bogging down because the reason mayor and assistant didn't even try to make sense for Judy and wasn't a good attempt to infer racial tension from predator and prey coming together even though the movie didn't really end up making anything
>>87348937that silver tounge of his could make women pay HIM for sex.
>>87348969who said it was only women?
>>87348969so you're saying /co/'s fox is a whore? Cause convincing women to sleep with you for money is the definition of being a whore. In that context, him living under the bridge seems even worse
>>87349017He didn't live there. That's just where his drinking/thinking chair happened to be.
>this is what little girls will develop a crush for next
>>87349065ah, ye olde big oaf.
>>87349038i doubt we'll ever know where he lives.
>>87349093In our heart's, anon.He lives in our hearts.
>>87349065Walt is rolling in his grave.
>>87344383This. If it weren't for the insanely high budget that would have been necessary, Zootopia would have flourished as a tv show that spent time exploring all the facets of its world.
>>873490931955 Cypress Grove Lane.
>>87349109we saw where he lived as a child. They had a telephoneThe bigger question is will we ever see Nick in a speedo? There is art of Finnick in a speedo.
>>87344278I don't understand the appeal because I'm not a furry.Talking animals are about the most cheesy thing in existence. Literally talking babies tier.
>>87349320But anthro characters aren't insufferable and hideous like babies.
Who's going to die on duty, Nick or Judy
>>87348146>I would like to see Nick and Judy ride on the back of a Golden Eagle and fly through the city. And considering the history of Disney theatrical sequels involving anthropomorphized animal partners who are in will-they won't-they relationships, that might be pretty close to what we getIn the same vein, I want to see both Nick and Judy trying to propose, only to keep getting interrupted by the plot, until they finally propose simultaneously near the end of the movie.
>>87344278Never saw itLike TGWeavers fanfic series about it
>>87348199Everyone knows doin up the house gets you lodes e mone.
>>87344278I would have liked the Collar Version better
>>87344884>coincidences to get them out of it are cheatingSo all of guy ritchie's movies are automatically shit?
>>87349240Larry Page and Google are controlling my mind! Or i'm just overreacting.
>>87347439>"more of the same" and "comedy relief gets the spotlight">both suck.>Shrek 2, Where's Dory, Kung fu Panda 2, Despicable me 2, Toy Story 3>implying
>>87351878>Like TGWeavers fanfic series about ityeh, it breddy gud
>>87351878>I enjoy the fanfics more than the movieGod I hate folks like you
>>87352223Kinda want burrow sharing to continue beyond the bathroom.Even for just one panel of Every rabbit-on-one-fox that would happen.
>>87344278A little better than Wreck-It Ralph.
>>87349065I don't remember girls getting a crush for Genie.
>>87352442Because1: Aladdin was in the same universe and2: Genie wasn't voiced by the fucking Rock.
>>87352277>implying I've ever shared anything about Pack Street before this threadI ain't no fag spamming threads with shit that just caught my interest. That's the same reason I didn't go see the movie. I suppose I could watch it sometime soon, though.Don't be so butthurt, fanboy. It's just a family movie
As someone who hasn't seen a Disney movie in a very long time, I thought it was very good. Judy freaking out over the naked animals was pretty funny. Didn't see it coming. I honestly loved a lot of the "animals doing people things" content, especially with the animals' height being roughly to scale (like the tiny mammals needing their own miniature seating area & door on the bus, giraffes ordering drinks from the stall with the tall delivery chute).Also made me wonder if Little Rodentia has its own dedicated police force, since even a smaller animal like Judy had trouble operating in there.
>Scheming dignitary from Reptile nation hides behind diplomatic immunityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY
>>87351878>>87352658wasn't using an avatar a cause for ban, or some shit?
>>87353199>Two posts is avatarfaggingI'm not that degenerate. It's just weaver stuff
>>87348634I don't ship them now, but if they were both the same gender I probably would
Not enough ferals. 5/10
>>87348634If they did everything the same as guys? Yea, there still would be that chemistry.
>>87353474people can search for the word 'frozen' without looking for the movie, you know.
>>87353609Frozen got an upcoming TV shows, TV Special, Comics, Magazines, Books, & Sequel.
>>87344278One of my favorite filmsI didn't think anything could hit the spot as well as Wall-E but damn it was up there
It was a kid's movie. Nothing in there for adults/manchildren.
>>87344933Is Zootopia /pol/ approved?
This movie is a feast for the eyes, but the story is weak to me. Certain scenes linger on for too long(Like Judy in the Elephant icecream store), while others are rushed through to get to a deus ex machina ending(Bellwether twist at the very end, Judy's time at the academy, and Gideon explaining the night crawlers). It looks good, but I've seen the movie three times, and it doesn't leave me with a real emotional impact.
>>87344278Turned me into a bigger furfag than I already was.Also, fox husbando.
>>873442788.7/10 bretty gud
>>873442788/10 i didn't like the song becouse it was bad and the ending was poor, it should ended in romance fox x bunny.
One of the only Disney movies I didn't mentally check out watching with my niece and nephew.Little hamfisted with the metaphors and some stuff doesn't totally work but I dig a more modern movie without the usual musical numbers in the middle. Also it isn't some retelling of a classic fable or fairy tale. Judy and Nick are really good characters and have clear arcs and personalities I can relate to.I enjoyed Zootopia and Big Hero 6 a lot more than most of the other Disney stuff released in the last 10 years.IMO if they want to do a sequel (and they almost certainly are since it made over a Billion) they need to just swing for the fences with the social commentary angle and find a way to work it in as a B-plot and connect it to the A-plot like the original. If it becomes a generic buddy-cop thing it'll be okay but won't reach the original- the whole setting is basically designed to be an exaggeration of diverse city centers and the complications thereof.Go fuckin nuts; actually go there with the interracial relationship angle and have Nick and Judy hook up, have her find out that Zootopia is cool with Predator and Prey living together but still finds Pred/Prey or interspecies relationships unacceptable, flip the whole "Judy convinces Nick to believe in the idea of Zootopia" dynamic to "Nick convinces Judy to believe in the idea of Zootopia". It's like pottery. Done. Generate a little controversy while you're at it.
>>87349065>little girls become obsessed with big ugly baraI was born a generation too early
>>87351961was there any explanation why preds wanted to stay in that hellhole?
>>87358756Casual propaganda that it was for their own good.The scene at the museum establishes that.
>>87358918didn't make sense to me, they should get the fuck out of there.they were dumbed down for the sake of "story".
>>87344907I wished I had saved those "$billion ladder thingy's"... they were great. :^)
>>87355644these pacing issues came from the fact it was SJWs dream movie rewritten and reanimated at the very last minute, new movie is inoffensive >>87359283>what is desuarchive
I thought it was a pretty good deconstruction of social justice.
>>87344383This.The worldbuilding overshadowed the mundane plot. Really hope theres a miniseries at least
>>87358991It doesn't make sense because you're too brainwashed too see how it's being used on you or even how or why that it would work.
>>87344278I loved everything about it. Watched it numerous times when it was in the theatres... Saw it again in the the theatre 8 days ago. It's just great!
I'VE BEEN SAYIN FOR YEAHS RABBITS WERE CUTEAND NOW THEY BELIEVE ME
>>87344278it was okay.i want to fuck the bunny.
>>87344278It was okayI wanna hug the fox
>>87359934Praise the Great Bunn in the sky... i'm a believer!
>>87344278It was good, I think they did a good job with anti prejudice message without making it a case of "These are white people and they are racist and these are black people, they are victims"Doesn't stop people from trying to shoe horn their races into it thoIt genuinely makes me happy that it did so well and we'll likely see more
>>87344278The first CGI movie that I actually liked visually. I mean, let's be honest, something like 'How to Train Your Dragon' or 'The Incredibles', while good movies, aesthetically look like cold diarrhea compared to visual masterpieces like 'The Lion King'. Zootopia was beautiful though, it's the first modern animated movie that I'm not entirely sure would look better hand drawn. I don't know if the tech has gotten better or if the artists have, but if things stay like this, I'm not as sad anymore that we moved to CGI.That said, the story of Zootopia was mindless junk food for the brain.>Racism.. BAD!>Cute animal characters>Good and evil too simplistically defined in this story about prejudice>Villain had little motive but to move the first pointAnd I get it, it's a kids movie, fine. However the original scope of what they were aiming for seemed much grander, so the entier thing felt crippled by how simplistic it had to be to make the higher ups happy. The final product also felt like watching a twitter drama unfold on social media, since the biggest thing at stake was "muh feelings".
>>87346404Like The Rules of Engagement?
>>87347465but there wasn't a hamlet 2 for them to crib off of for sequel ideas
>>87359934Check your privilege.
>>87349065why do they always make the shrek faceare there no other human expressions
>>87360352>visual masterpieces like 'The Lion King'Stopped reading right there.
>>87347675Wait what? How come? Source?
>The whole premise of the movie was "It's not easy being non-white." until it was scrapped because there was no easy feel-good story to tell with being non-white
>>87344278Neat worldbuilding, even if it is barely explored.Muh HD furMessage is about prejudice being bad, but beyond that all the specifics are mostly left up to interpretation.Male and female protagonists in a Disney movie don't get together for once; got a good "buddy cop" dynamic going onCute, racist, loose-cannon cop bunny is fairly unique and enjoyable.
>>87361956Forgot to mention, those are points for it; I liked it.
>>87344278Looks overhyped just like Frozen was, so I haven't watched it yet. It doesn't help my friends wouldn't shut up about it either. Yes, I'm that shallow
>>87347465To be fair, LK2 was okay. Not good enough for theatrical release, but better than any other Disney sequel, and probably better than a decent amount of theatrical movies.
>>87362208>overhypedIt wasn't hyped at all.
>>87344278I like to imagine that it happens in the same universe as StarFox and Zootopia is a city in Corneria
>>87362385Also I'd like to point out that Bunny's dad has a resemblance to Peppy Hare and that both Starfox and Zootopia share the silly "naming people after the animal they are" patternExample:Bunny HoppsFox McCloudMajor LionheartGazelleWolf O'Donnell (Starwolf)
>>87362461By the way by pointing out his resemblance to Peppy Hare I'm not implying that they're related, just that the artstyles are somewhat similar
>>87362473What? Are you saying all rabbits look the same, or something?
>>87362484No but when it comes to anthrophomorphic cartoon rabbits there's several routes you can goAnd when it comes to Zootopia and Starfox they took a pretty similar route
>>87352442I did when I was little but didn't ever let it show in fear of my family harassing me for it
>>87358402>hamfisted with the metaphorsI know I'm hours late here but I sincerely hope you're not talking about the 'cute' scene with Judy and the fat receptionist cop, because that was literally Disney getting away with a nigger joke.
>>87344278FUCK YOU OP!Now I gotta watch it again.
>>87352442Totally agreedJust because something or someone is the main protagonist in a kid's Movie doesn't mean that it will influence what girls will grow up lovingIf this was the case we'd have a ton of tub chasers because of Shrek
>tfw a girl at my job looks too much like Hopps>lil button nose, big eyes, round head>really want to facefuck her until she passes out
>>87362662I don't believe you I'd have to see a photoGiven the size of Judy's eyes it might not be attractive at all
>>87344278 Why is the majority of concept art for Disney movies so much better looking than the final product?
>the plot was greaty.. you too
>>87362736>Each frame took extended time and effort to make>There are people out there who have spent entire days working on Judy's ass>And have been paid for it
>>87362728>Disney movies>DisneyMost concept art in all kinds of media looks better than the final product.
>>87362728because you pirated it on youtube at silky smooth 480p.
>>87361844What Josie said at the end of documentary was cringeworthy
>>87362613I don't think that particular joke was a problem; I was more talking the stuff in the final act when her and Nick find the drugged animals and she does the press conference and all that after.The press conference, the protests, the scene between her and Nick, etc.It was all a bit too on the nose after 2/3rds of the movie handles the subtext largely better.
>>87361844I'm so glad those land whale SJWs in those documentaries got their movie changed to something watchable
had fun watching it with my husband. i don't think i'd ever watch it again though.
>>87362261>better than any other Disney sequel
>>87344278It had a beginning, middle, an end, it had character growth, it had an interesting (albeit impractical / logistically unfeasible but perfectly acceptable) world, it had multiple themes, it had people doing the right thing for the wrong reasons and the wrong thing for the right reasons (I guess you'd call that moral ambiguity).I feel like the sequel will be shit, possibly even direct to disc, and that Nick and Judy will just be friends even though that's not consistent with Judy's character. Character wise what would happen is someone like the fat cheetah would ask Judy if they're dating and she'd be about to say "no, we're just..." and then he'd say "Yeah I mean a rabbit and a fox? A rabbit CAN'T date a fox, that's just never been done!" and then Judy's inner Locke would shout "DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T DO!" and then she'd announce (out of spite) she and Nick are getting married and then not be able to back out of it and then decide it's actually for the best anyway and go through with it.
>>87346980>how much of it was actually animated and rendered?That's kind of a relative question because you can do very fast renders and animatics if you want and it's not like filming where all the cost is in the film / cameras / equipement / crew / logistics associated with a set and so on and so on.With 3d you can do very quick renders and you aren't wasting much money, and as long as the designs of the characters (or most of the characters) don't change, you aren't actually wasting time with modeling, texturing, or rigging those characters.Also all the work on props is fine too, you can reuse all of those, and if you're working with generic rigs you can even reuse animation (with some tweaking), so it's not quite the same as if you completely re-shot a movie (which of course even then you can do editing tricks, like with Back to the Future replacing their lead star after filming had begun). Don't get me wrong, all those years spent reworking it and so on cost them money, but there's a lot of work that can be salvaged with 3D.
>>87344933Mommy and daddy aren't regulating your internet browsing, I see
>>87361844>>87363672>>87364669When conservatards are so desperate to keep their power.
>>87344340>I hope that all the mindless bureaucracy and inter-office politics don't grind down Judy's hope and optimism.They certainly would have if not for Nick.Companionship is what enables us to do amazing things, just having someone there to say you can do something when you doubt it is incredible.
>>87365424Did you even watch the making of documentary?The entire collar story was full retard and the entire world was unlikable. They even said numerous times that they were about to scrap the project entirely because they couldn't fix it. Original Zootopia was garbage and to no ones surprise the poison haired fatties that were there were the ones that were pushing to keep it going.
>>87364669>Nick's movie >not watchableLots of fans would LOVE to see the city from Nick's point of view, just because it's not marketable doesn't mean it's not watchable.
>>87365645Seriously?The original script was so absurdly heavy handed that it's the embodiment of cringe. They were so desperate to keep the shock collars that it ruined absolutely everything.
>>87360352More like racism is an ingrained part of the world, and negative stereotypes reinforce negative behavior which reinforces negative stereotypes (see: Nick's speech and back story). How were good and evil simplistically defined? They were very much blurred: you had small animal characters doing awful things to big animal characters (in a movie where the goodguy is a little animal), even while those big animal characters are abusing the main character. The villain (Bellweather)'s motivation was well defined: This is a bid for power, she has hired a number of criminals to facilitate her coup, and she uses the "prey account for 90% of the populace, yet they're dominated by the 10% predators" speech to justify her actions. It would have been nice if she'd been a bit less smug and a bit more zealous with her prey/predators speech, but that would have muddied the waters a bit. Also, the things at stake were: predators being systematically poisoned and imprisoned, the complete dysfunction of the city as vital predator jobs sat unfilled due to a scarcity of big prey animals (a loss of 10% of the population is Black Plague levels of casualties), and rulership under a tyrannical leader willing to go to any means to get what she wants.
>>87365667I see nothing cringeworthy about them.Great tool to show some emotional scenes.People are simply insecure.Grow a spine.
>>87365891>ur insecure it's not a shitty hamfisted story mechanic at all!Whatever you say
It was pretty decent.
Preds were clearly whites, always getting blamed for the violence their ancestors committed and having to watch their language around prey feelings.Not to mention the city went to hell when a prey took office, Zootopia would have ended up like Detroit.
>>87359523>>87365617i remember april threads about it,the issue was they couldn't develop technology back then to create collars (like you said, it was in museum, for decades, so that implies fridge logic)shit was hamfisted, but since it came from disney writers themselves fandom ate it upand we got "two" movies in one.>>87365400TLK 'won" only becuase it had better songs and animation, after few years Zootopia will fade away just like Bolt
>>87344278>mame incredible, fleshed out setting>only utilize a quarter of itBiggest sin this movie comitted. Zootopia 2 please.
>>87347385Any Chinese speakers that could tell us what is the poster saying to us?
Is it only rightardies that don't like the movie?
>>87368255>rightardiesThat's a CWC-ism if I ever heard one.
>>87344278the porn isn't very good, which is odd considering how much pratice furries get. the only two good doujins are dogear and whoever did what does the fox say.
I think it's a good movie. The setting is great, the attention to detail is incredible, and the characters are nice. The biggest problem is the whodunit is really fucking predictable and the plot is kind of weak but it more than makes up for it.I don't mind the preachiness because they didn't point fingers and left who is an analogue is for what up to the viewer's interpretation. I've seen people argue predators being a stand in for minorities and others argue the sheep being radical feminism/liberals and you can make a good case for both.Also unfortunately this. >>87355708
Interesting, if not a bit shallow by the end.Judy and Nick are one of the cutest couples in Disney canon (Rapunzel and Flynn don't count because I tried to waifu her).
Gf and I did Zootopia for Halloween. We had to pick her up a new wig last minute after the grey one we ordered never came in. Rate?
>>87367195I can see the next movie going into the desert biome maybe having a water rights subplot and dealing with frontier law enforcement. Judy and Nick having to deal with a Sheriff that may or may not be in league with water bandits.
>>873684977+/10 (if you wash your face, then 8/10)Someone had really fucked up your make up.
>>87362613I didn't like Judy's reaction to the cute comment. Clawhauser was just trying to give a sincere compliment, but instead of just taking the flattery she took it as a teaching moment & informed him that the use of the word was inappropriate in that context. That's where the problem with the -isms lie- when you put down someone who was just trying to be nice by saying "we can only say that to others of our species". Judy may have tried to educate & establish courtesy, but it really impersonalizes any relationship between her & Clawauser as now Clawhauser has to watch what he says instead of just being himself.
>>87368511we already saw sahara square, the locations we haven't see were:-nocturnal district (for night critters)-outback island (kangoos and koalas)-meadowlands (umm.. sheep live there?)and that infamous themepark.plus the inside of the palm three hotel.
>>87368511Har. Har.I saw what you did there. :^)
>>87362461Bonnie. Stu....Bunny stew...!! Omg...
>>87366303Um.. why does she look nervous and sweat profusely...?
>>87370223she is about to take the knot
>>87344278I loved it. The pacing felt a bit fast, though. Really happy they didn't do the "shock collar" thing, that's just fucked up and everyone would have hated it. Only edgelords and "mature" viewers liked the idea.
>>87372304you forgot women , at least the ones i met here.glad they spared that shit on my dvd, but why they kept that idea for so long?
What has Kaz really been doing all this time?
>>87368768Clawhauser apologized sarcastically and then said she'd be eaten alive. The first briefing begins with a racial joke at the Elephant before wishing her happy birthday. The scene establishes Judy has her own idea of appropriate language in contrast to the police forces "we will directly insult you while praising you" attitude.
>>87362781>ywn animate on-model Judy smut in-between working on scenes for Disney
>>87375681you know this rendering costs million dollars?
>>87375317Forgot about that. Thank you.
>>87368497You're both cute!
>>87375762For some reason the guy that does that comic for the escapist now semi-regularly critiques doujins and he took paneling lessons from this one.
>>87366303>>87375762>>87377662read the whole thingdoes this guy have anymore art?
>>87377662I mean.....he's not wrong.But honestly, who reads doujins for academic value?
>>87366809> Zootopia will fade away just like Bolt:'l
>>87366303>that carrot in Nick's ass at the end
>>87349129why?>>87352442this>>87360520nah, this time it's ok since the Rock does it
>>87366303>>87377662Where are these from?
>>87368768it was just a joke.chill.
>>87377662The doujin artist's designs are on point outside of Nick's nose looking a little weird. Like, shockingly on-point. Like better than most of the official drawn art.
>>87344278An extremely intelligent way of explaining the crack conspiracy theory to kids.
>>87349065>Like the ancient Hawaiians say...
>>87360520I'd agree but The Rock was making that face probably before Shrek existed.