It's a shame they didn't go with the collar idea. It was very interesting
>>86414080probably would have given us more Nick porn.and that is always a good thing
>>86414080I would like to see a darker story with that plot but like Disney ever gonna okay that
>>86414242It's not like they were stabbing people or anything. Don't underestimate Disney.
>people still don't think Zootopia was red pilled as fuck after seeing this
>>86414080Collars are for domesticated animals. Fox is all wild.
>>86414311Wild animals wear collars all the time. They're used to track species and collect data.
>>86414311They were shock collars
>>86414080It was interesting but it was also horrifying. An entire class of people utterly unable to defend themselves against bullying, get upset or even get too happy without being zapped. Imagine a society where to be person in ten is forced to be an emotionless drone but the other nine can do whatever they want, including pick on him with no fear of retaliation. The undercurrent of frustration would lead to hate and violence in no time. We lost some good stuff, like Wilde Times, but we are well shed of the shock collar setting.
>>86415039They're all shit, that's what I'm saying.
perhaps they'd work better if they were the endgame in the big bad's scheme.
>>86414907>>86414080>>86414242Collars would be ok if the movie wasn't supposed to have a happy ending and was just that: a grim story about a broken world. But since it was supposed to end on a happy note, the message would literally be "racism is bad, mmmkay?" and racist prey assholes would be nazi level of infuriating. I prefer the movie that shows that everyone (even minorities) can be prejudiced, that fear is our worst enemy and though stereotypes sometimes are true, it is your job to show others you can be more than a stereotype. You know, like the movie we got.
>>86414907wasn't the Wilde Times overdeveloped because the movie was depressing as fuck so the crew wanted to take a breathe after yet another "Nick is abused" scene?I checked the march archive and someone claimed the fucking loved working on the movie and the only problem was the ending.
>>86415804Yeah, Wild Times was a small island island of hope in the middle of an ocean of depression.The ending was royally fucked. Nick and Judy solved the case, but the city was still a irredemable racist hellhole even without the corrupted officials. "Zootopia" was supposed to be an ironic name.Basically, everyone working on the movie wanted Nick to leave the city and never look back.
>>86415975>Basically, everyone working on the movie wanted Nick to leave the city and never look back.only Director wanted it, poor gay man, It was his life in a form of a cartoon.
>>86416072He has a husband and works for Disney in a country where it is legal to be gay and married. He has it better than me and I'm not bitching about my life.
Only one more week until the graphic novel!
>>86416252but his past was tragic, man. Have some compassion!
>>86414080It raised some problems, but was an alright idea. It made Zootopia into a much darker and more distopian city, which isn't what the creators wanted. They wanted the audience to love the city and be amazed by it, not to hate it and see the prey species as despotic rulers.
>>86416327I was born in a communist country where everything was limited by law. I lived the hell of social transformation, closing companies and factories and hiperinflation. I earn in a year what he earns in a month.Fuck that entitled fuck.
>>86416272i want it to confirm their friendship, i dont give a shit about tweets
>>86415060All umpteen thousand Zootopia pics are shit, got it. You must have the narrowest interests imaginable.
>>86416466I'm fine either way, but if they're just friends, one thing I would /love/ to see is Judy playing shipper and trying to set Nick up with anyone she can find. I can totally picture a sad scene where Nick gets fed up and asks what the deal is, only for Judy to respond with "How can you be happy if you're alone?" and Nick realizing how lonely Judy must be after having dozens of siblings around.
>>86416565Not all of them, but there's a much higher ratio of shit to good with things like this. Like there are plenty of good Sonic pics, but like, 2 good comics. I don't think I've seen a single zootopia comic actually reach the sex. They're all ongoing with 3 pages and then the artist stops updating.
>>86416570>the earlier iterations of the story, Judy's character was portrayed as a somewhat aggressive figure; a seasoned officer, Judy's was much more of a cynic, being well-experienced and no-nonsense. Furthermore, she was more of an outcast in earlier drafts; bunnies were typically an impersonal race that worked as phone operators. The number of rabbits were also emphasized (dramatically so) to further Judy's loss of identity amongst her own crowd—this would have been acknowledged, as her own father was unable to distinctly identify her.you know, this sound like Hopps was asian.betting my foot this was Josie's Idea.thank fucking god for Moore, Johnston and Goodwin.
https://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Zootopia/80079258i think this is news too.
>>86416679It sucks that Judy was demoted from Lt. to a newbie. I was hyped back when the early synopsis was revealed.
Collars would work too, but I don't think it's a better idea. It's a gross exaggeration. You can see a lot of things in final Zootopia, and with collars it's a crazy-ass dystopia which is unrealateable and unsubtle, thus not allowing compexity of real world stereotyping.
>>86416946"bunny chasing fox"sounded neat. but then it went all downhill.>>86416960i think it was just a very bad cartoon written by a bunch of SJWs. fans just made it "something special"
>>86416946Early synopsis was about a fox secret agent and it had evolved from a premise of a rabbit secret agent. The fox owning an amusement park and wearing a taming collar was the third draft, then they shafted the collars and made Judy a rookie but kept Nick as the main character. The one we got is the fifth take on the story with Judy as main. And they re-did it completely from the previous one in half a year.
>>86416946I was hyped as well. Such a shame. Hopefully the sequel corrects this.>>86417111Actually, the ass jay ddds almost had no impact, MAYBE adding a few cringy, but tolerable, lines.
>>86417303>hopefully the sequel corrects thisanon,i dont think there s going to be a sequel
>>86417303>sequelas much as i'd love to see unused locations, i dont know how they could write new story for the city, there isn't even that big demand for sequel, movie did ok, but it's nothing like Frozen levels of "demand". I can still hear that goddamn song at girl's birthday parties.
>>86417510>new story for the cityJust have them be secret agents somewhere else!
>>86417439>>86417510>no sequel for a billion dollar movieDisney sure is known for it's hate of money.And what's with all that "no stories left to tell" bullshit? How hard is it to write a mystery story starring two cops? And if you want to poke a beehive, make it about interracial relationships.
>>86417510New story is not the problem, but there probably isn't any other that can be as powerful.
>>86417605>make it about interracial relationshipsInter-species. If they try to make it about LE RACISM again, I might consider NOT seeing it.
>>86417656Since interspecies relationships can't produce offsprings, it should be treated as homosexuality.
>>86417510>movie did ok>1.023 billion USD>movie did ok
>>86417605>>86417741"billion " is a meme, it's a great number on resume, but no toys were flying off the shelves, it failed to reach to everyone, only older people understood it and rewatched it because "details".>>86417656>>86417643>>86417588i could only hope for few shorts. would make more sense.
>>86417741furries watched it 10-20 times in a row
>>86417782and lonely asian women. don't forget.their demography is fucked.
>>86414080Zoot Two-t needs MORE CLOTHINGI want to see Nick in a proper suit!I want Judy to wear a sundress!I want to see Finnick in a nurse outfit!
>>86417774Then why Wreck it Ralph is getting a sequel? It earned less and did not sell a lot of toys either. Your logic is flawed.It's better to earn 250+ million on a movie alone than not to earn anything. Fuck, who in their right mind would say no to 250 million? And after substracting box office shares for cinemas and costs of making the movie it's how much Zootopia made in the green.
>>86416610>The Late StakeBut yeah, I wish people would give me free shit faster.And I do mean that unironically
>>86417890>wanting based fennec bro to humiliate himself again (this page is SFW, please dont report)
>>86417946WiR started making money before it even came out, it had contracts with Coca Cola and the like, i dont exactly know how it works t b h. in short: first two weeks are money which go to disney, then it's all cinema's money.
>>86414080Shock collars for blacks when?
>>86418142they were for jews, not blacks!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqlaPttudUc
>>86417303You know, when Judy said the cute line to Clawhauser, I almost gave up on the movie. It just seemed soo forced, and it came right after the toilet joke and a "everyone puts the protagonist down but they won't give up" montage.I'm so glad that the rest of the movie was as quality as it was.>>86417656>Zootopia was about raceYou know what, I've fucking seen this meme so many times that I'm all ranted outIt was about bigotry in general.Fuck.
>>86416272You mean this one?
>>86418024you expected porn, didn't you?
>>86417266How long does it take for Disney prototype movie drafts to come out of the vault?Because I want to know what Jack Savage was like as a character, and that's the only way I know how.
>>86415060A darker movie wouldn't have upped the quality anon, if anything all the edgy 15 year olds would've flocked to it and you've would've gotten EVEN MORE shitty porn,
>>86417510>i dont know how they could write new story for the cityQuick question: Are you clinically retarded or did you just chow down on paint chips as a kid?
>>86418024I want to like Finnick, but why did they have to give him such a deep voice?
>>86418315i just dont want a rehash. fine, let's make an earthquake in the city.>>86418345because Tiny Lister is based.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBGoYnEV79Y
>>86418381So clinically retarded then?
>>86418345Why are you so upset that his voice is so deep?Are you a faggot, anon?Do you only like twinky men?
>>86415804>>86415975Everything I've seen makes the original concept of Zootopia look like 2 hours of a fox being tortured.
>>86418556he was just a predator there, "oppressed minority". "do not oppress minority" - the movie.
>>86418236He wasn't even a character, he was a just concept with little to no characterization. And then he became Nick the fox. Then they realized that the era of spy movies ended and that the city was the most interesting part. And only then they got to actually giving him personality.So for all intents and purposes, Nick and Jack are the same person in two bodies.
>>86418345Because that's the joke...?
>>86418627>>86418556The collar version opressed the minority in a cartoonish, pre-secession South levels of prejudice. And since situations like that do not exist in the modern Western society, the movie moral would be "thank god we do not do those things anymore" instead of focusing on the fact that we still tend to be unjustly prejudiced against others, no matter who we are.
I never got why /co/ was obsessed with this movie.It's a totally self contained cute movie with as much substance as "Being prejudiced is bad". It's not even self-consistent with the morals. Animals aren't bound to their nature. Unless they're sloths and wolves. Then they HAVE to be what their species tells them to be
>>86418749yes, they missed the point by a mile.fangirls needs to gtfo if they want their martyr back.
>>86418874/pol/ is that way if you want to cry about people being anti-prejudice.
>>86418874>Animals aren't bound to their nature. Unless they're sloths What the hell are you talking about. The whole joke at the end of the movie is that the Sloth is a notorious street racer who drives insanely fast.
>>86418974becaue he couldnt pull off his leg fast enough!
>>86418874>he doesn't even get how the movie is literally saying it's fine to be a little racist as long as you don't hate or mistrust someone for it"I prefer the movie that shows that everyone (even minorities) can be prejudiced, that fear is our worst enemy and though stereotypes sometimes are true, it is your job to show others you can be more than a stereotype. You know, like the movie we got."~Anon, literally in this thread
>>86418940It's not just anti-prejudice, it's hypocritical.More than that, it takes a narrative that sounds awfully familiar. All this violent behaviour by the minorities? It's actually the oppressive majority giving them drugs.
>>86417736You're right, anon! So should old people getting married, and people who can't have kids due to some congenital condition. . Everything is homosexuality unless it's explicitly for the purpose of popping out babies.
>>86418974You're saying that the stereotype that Asians are short isn't true because some wear stilts.
>>86419035Back in a day, infertility was one of the few reasons for divorce, yes.But let's not get distracted.
>>86418902Are there any other ships even worth mentioning, anon?>>86419022>Not understanding that Bellwhether is just as good of an analogy for Hillary as she is for TrumpIt really is in how you analyze it, I see.
>>86417774>"billion " is a memeHow brain damaged does someone need to be to think that a concrete number is somehow a "meme."It's the second highest-grossing film of the year, and actually more profitable than the top film (Civil War) because Disney spent much less to advertise Zootopia, and it had a smaller budget.Zootopia is a huge success by any measure, and Disney already referred to it as a franchise in its latest investor report. Furrytown 2 is only a matter of time.
>>86419096The point is that Bellwether is a stereotype of her own.The maniacal oppressor who makes minorities violent by giving them drugs.Very many people have this point of view.It was especially common in the 90s. You ever watch Boyz in the Hood?
>>86419096i liked Swinton as a villain, not sure what was her beef with preds though.
>>86419160>not sure what was her beef with preds though.They're all criminals and are a danger to organized herbivore society
>>86419160She wants the pred beef but hates herself for it. Think Frollo but replace gypsies with wolves and tigers n shit
>>86419182ahh, they were blacks!.then how the fuck they build the city together?!
>>86419022Well, central plot is not really about stereotyping so much as arbitrary division into us and them.And while stereotypes are often correct, people still have a choice.
>>86419160>her beefyeah more like her PORK with preds amirite?See it also works as a double entendre for sex
>>86419208Herbivores did all the work and the predators mooched of it
>>86419238Sheep isn't pork.Sheep is mutton.Food names are mutton to mess with.
>>86418184Yeah, brah, everyone knows that bigotry never has anything to do with race.Besides, the real victims of bigotry in today's society are hardcore gamers like ourselves. We are persecuted because of our love of logic and our superior atheist beliefs which clearly
>>86419245rrrrright, suddenly more inteligent animals became dumbed down for the sake of plot.
>>86419281All the characters in authority positions are herbivores.They are smarter.inb4 the Mayor.He was a figurehead. Bellwether did all the work
>>86418749Does the moral need to correlate to humans though? Can't we just have a film about speciesim without it being seen as a racism allegory?
>>86414080Le dreamworks face fox
>>86419422Do you not understand how fiction works?
>>86414080Was he going to be shirtless a lot originally or something?
>>86419457No. Shirtless art just helps you learn how to draw and model him better.
>>86419275>Swinton>S w i n t o n>Swine Clinton>Sheepfuck off
I want to be the one who takes Nick's collar off
>>86419507Ah I see, thanks.But I don't recall ever seeing such a method for any other Disney protag though.
>>86419533he figured out it himself, girl.
>>86419277>Picking and choosing bigotry to only be for the current issue because you personally feel slighted.>Not always clarifying that harshly judging someone before getting to know them is unhealthy.>Not understanding that this is /exactly/ how the 'social justice' mentality worksalso as a hardcore gamer and part-time pseudointellectual im just disappointed you had to slander my name like this
>>86418184Different aminals meant conflict, and that was the idea from day 1. It is the SJWs on the team that persuaded the writers to make it a race allegory. Thankfully, the final product came out still good.
>>86419561Fur works differently I suppose. I have seen some artists draw nude or just slateless clothesless art of their characters when practicing them though.
>>86417510>i dont know how they could write new story for the cityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY
>>86420005http://antonellodalena.tumblr.com/i wonder who's the mysterious poster.
>>86414080Bad idea from the beginning. The test audience hated it so much, the entire movie had to be remade.Zootopia would not have been the success it was if they went with the collar idea, people would hate the city and the prey animals too much. This movie would have been Disney's next Chicken Little.
>>86420065...but why were they surprised?actually i'd call it Black cauldron mixed with Pocahontas
>>86420124>...but why were they surprised?I don't follow.
>>86419734i remember ;_;
>>86420124Because they got wrapped up in their own idea. From what I can tell, the collars were there from the beginning, and they really tried to make it fit. But you can't love a city that's enforcing apartheid.
>>86420065Test audiences mean little. Many times they ruin good media
>>86417774dat sneeky grinlike>what? you don't have a 10 year old inside you?
>>86420200Ah. Also, people didn't hate Black Cauldron or Pocahontas, they just weren't popular. This movie, nobody would have liked the Prey or the city. At best, Proto-Zootopia would have a cult following.
>>86420433i remember kids running away from the BC test screening.pocahontas was only offensive for some.
>>86420316say what you want, but /trash/ don't have this feel /co/ does.
>>86417774>"billion " is a memeIt's one of the top grossing animated films of all time.>but no toys were flying off the shelvesThat's cause they barely made any toys to begin with. Zootopia was a surprise hit.>it failed to reach to everyoneWhat are you smoking? It was almost universally loved by critics and mostly spread by word of mouth.>only older people understood it and rewatched it because "details".God forbid a kids film appeal to older people too.
>>86420569/trash/ is, no pun intended, fucking garbage. Holy shit, what a hellhole. /co/ was comfy as fuck
>>86414080It had powerful moments but also weakened the message because the conflict was so black-and-white, and so far removed from real prejudice.
>>86420597However, there is no better place for pr0n draw threads. Yes, there is no """"community"""", but that's not why the board is needed.
>>86420634I guess that's where all the """"""""""""""comic artists"""""""""""" congregate to feed their ego
>>86420634trash is not needed. at all.
>>86420597>>86420666>>86420669Somehow the /trash/ threads have been less idiotic than this one.
>>86420593>>but no toys were flying off the shelves>That's cause they barely made any toys to begin with. Zootopia was a surprise hit.really?i can find all the stuff i want, it's on clearance. it's offmodel because rewrite, but that's it.
>>86420693I guess this is just the new """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""meme"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>86420698Almost all of it is pretty poorly made, so I'm not surprised. Disney put no real effort into merchandising for Zootopia. Haven't seen any toys floating around here in SoCal.
>>86420760god i so want Zootopia monopoly. It's as if it was made for it.
>>86417774>but no toys were flying off the shelvesConsidering the lack of toys on the shelves, and the quality of the few that were actually made, I don't find that surprising at all.Disney did not expect this movie to be a success. In their eyes it was an autumn B-movie to fill the gap while they were busy getting things ready for the yearly winter A-movie.
>>86419441Well, he´s a smug fox.
>>86418556That's essentially what it was about
>>86420720Can i please get the picture of this linked? I think it was deleted.
>>86425886Holy shit, it was deletedThat's hilariousI mean https://tggeko.tumblr.com/ is the artist, but I can't find that image in his gallery at all, and I sure as heck ain't reposing the picture seeing as how it was banned.
>>86426191Can you link a slimgur or imgur?
>>86426558Heres the link. https://68.media.tumblr.com/1582cecabe76193f2abefd9c9f574663/tumblr_odh0vwWz6R1r97maco5_1280.png
>>86414080I'm sad we didn't get to watch those polar bears. That scene they showed about the little cub receiving his collar and getting so excited he got shocked was damn powerful. Although I agree the collars wouldn't have made the movie so likeable.
>>86414080You are also very gay.
>>86427139I mean, Punished!Nick is pretty hot
>>86417774>"billion " is a meme,t. not billionaire
>In UK it's called Zootropoliswhats up with the name change? do they get offended when you use zootopia or something? do the cast have to rerecord each line that has the word zootopia in it
>>86428190Copyright claims with a zoo there called zootopia. Im sure Disney could have just bought it out or something though.
>>86414907They're saving that for the sequel...and it will be an allegory for NORMAL people with penises in america being marginalized and ridiculed by women and their not-quite-male sycophants.
>>86418142Shock collars for children of single parents, more like. Some of us are civilized, Pinky.
>>86427434you really need to go back to kitchen
>>86428601We just put the collars around their dicks until their married. Problem solved
>>86429345wow fucking sexist much reallyBut really.Fox dick.
>>86429622selfish women like you need to know their place, for your own good, it's not sexist, you're just being pampered since childhood and think you will find your prince charming who'll do everything for you regardless of how you treat him.
>>86429752A-are you trying to arouse me?
>>86427205nah, he's from poland, just like me.but there are plenty of countries like these, it's just americans never experienced such suffering so they find it fascinating.
>>86430149Latin Americans have experienced that hell in different ways like Chile or Cuba or current day Venezuela.
>>86429968someday you'll meet your Nick, who will open your eyes, You Dumb bunny.
>>86414080The only reason they didn't go through with it was because the focus groups they showed it to thought it too mean and sad. Normies ruining everything yet again, simply because they can't handle a disney film that isn't full of gay ass pop songs and lame jokes.
>>86430181ah yes, forgot. I need to be more careful with my words.I apologize.
>>86430225go watch a true noir movie and tell me how did you like it.
>>86430181Go away, /pol/
>>86430282>Come on, Nick>It's Tundratown
>>86430282Im familiar with noir type movies. The main character works his ass off to save the day,loses almost everyone and everything he loves, and only has to chalk it up as another day of work. With only his bottle of whiskey left as his true friend
>>86430282And he would like it and feel great. If sad things never existed you would never know what happiness is, you would never understand why you should appreciate your life. Did you missed inside out or just watching only disney movies?
>>86430564Yeah, I did. But everything must be dosed, why do you think Good Dinosaur flopped?The most mean spirited Pixar movie ever.
>>86431023Actually because it was not so good and wasn't advertised as heavy as typical disney movie.There is a lot of good movies that goes under radar, money doesn't mean shit. It's just shows how good marketing campaign was and nothing more.
>>86430181Socialism - everything's fine until someone else's money runs out.can you make an animated movie about this?
>>86430205>You will never meet your Judy
>>86414303What's the redpill theory? I'm legitimately intrigued since I was wondering about that aspect of it.
>>86431023>The most mean spirited Pixar movie ever.Which wouldn't be so bad if the characters didn't look like fisher-price toys. It's not like the movie got THAT dark or anything, there's worse shit out there for children. It's just jarring considering the visual tone.
>>86419441He makes that face in the movie though, compared to the typical Dreamworks face character. He's actually clever and mischievous.
>>86414080kinda want to see Nick and Judy drunk off their asses. I bet Nick is a sad drunk while Judy is a lot of fun
>>86414080was he Gay anon?
>>86433189>finnick wearing diaperno thanks.Only 6 days till prequel. Cool.
>>86416679how is that asian you racist fgt?just because you're so ignorant that you can't tell them apart doesn't mean that that's what the movie was trying to show
>>86430225it was not focus groups, the "Brain Trust" (pixar guys for the most part) gave the movie a thumbs down and said it was too dark and it had to be reworked. It was to heavy for kids I guess, at the time I liked it though. The new result is also good, just very different. What sucks is they had this fucking meeting like 6 months before the due date, so the whole thing changed and everyone had to work hell hours for several months to make up for lost time. Tons of animation thrown out, all because they did not sit down to review this movie early in the writing process.
>>86414080>movies message is about not stereotyping>stereotypes foxesamusing
>>86433274In my dreams he is
>>86434843this movie brought back that 8 yr old in me, made me happy inside.old one just creeps me out, (police cars with tusks, Jesus Christ! So you did animated that scene) guess i fell in love in Nick too, though i hate to admit it. I'll forever keep pondering why they waited with the review so long.
>>86414907Yeah but horrifying in an interesting way and compared to a lot of other things it's not really that bad.I mean I understand why Disney didn't go for it because it wouldn't fly with their target audience but I still think the original idea would have been entertaining.
>>86429980Your doggo might be part cat.
>>86429381(!!!) Damn, that's fuckin' genius!
>>86429752You know, I've always wondered: how come guys can hold our piss for hours if need by, but women can't hold it for more than like 10 minutes? Are we REALLY built that differently outside of muscle strength, plumbing, and joints, or is it because little boys are generally made to wait to use the restroom (parents driving do this, elementary school teachers do this as punishment or because unlike the girl's restroom pass, only one boy is allowed to leave class to pee at a time, whereas multiple girls are usually allowed. It's everywhere. You just gotta learn to hold it), or home before they can go, where as daddy will pull over nearly anywhere to let his little girl tinkle, so they never properly develop the control down there until they become older adults trying strengthen their pc muscles to please a man or prevent leaking?
>>86435636Wow...that ended up partially incoherent due to editing and just woken up, but I think you get the question.
>>86435636Women's urethras are shorter than men's, so we have to pee more often.I didn't understand the end of what you were asking though.
>>86414907>An entire class of people utterly unable to defend themselves against bullyingLike, white people?
>>86429601Huh. Did they not watch jurassic world?
>>86435636women have extra organs in their abdominal cavity so everything down there is more crampedalso as a general trend women consume more caffeine per average day, which is a diuretic
>>86436998old movie wasn't bad because ut was dark or depressing or whatever, it was just too on the nose, great propaganda tool for extreme left.Preds treated like shit marked like jews, called "chompers" and their only hope was a cage where they could act like savages.Genius.A good chunk of the world would be offended.Whoopsie.I think they wanted documentary to use for same thing. Double whoopsie.
>>86414080Eh, I don't think it would have worked out too well, I'm not one of them people who cry about things if they are too mean spirited or whatever but the movie just didn't seem very fun with the whole shock collar thing going on but just kind of bleak and depressing
>>86437589Plus they're distracting, you basically know what happens next with the yellow light warning.Unless it works selectively, then fuck off with such writing.
>>86418345Because it instantly sells the idea "oh, he's an adult who was just pretending to be a kid."
what did I do?what did I do?
>>86427550I don't know names but I've heard of series and films that were popular being hated by test audiences
>>86414080I kinda like old Zootopia, I think it would've been cool to see it as a movie. It's dark, edgy and weird, and you almost never see something like that in kids' animation these days. Plus it feels like this was the film the directors and story crew really wanted to make and poured a lot of passion into, while the final film's story was kind of a rush job (but still great).Anyway it's fun piecing together the old film using the material they released. Every Disney film has tons of previous versions and unused ideas but they usually hush it up, here I guess they had no choice since the change was so last minute. I still wish they'd release stuff from older versions of Frozen.
>>86439387Random people worked on random scenes and didn't see full image, I assume.Poor guys did their work for naught.Movie would be 10/10 instead of 8/10 , those were just models.oh well, movie made be feel giddy in theathre so I shouldn't complain. Does that means it was peek of Disney's second renaissance? We'll see how Moana will do, I "bieleve" in Jared.
>>86414907>would lead to violenceno, it wouldn't. it can't
>>86419446Fiction does not exist to preach messages.It exists to entertain.
>>86441439it can do both.
I remember when we had daily threads about the movie...I came up with a serial killer leopard seal, if I remember right.
>>86443184i only remember the newscaster lady, and loved that they put different anchors for the different countries.
The original looked like awful edgy garbage that was too black-and-white.If they're going to do the collar script, they would have to revise it. >>86443184Those threads got boring fast, it was pretty much just Judy and Nick shipping.
>>86443761nah it's not coming back, it's going to fade away, we don't need it. i like how japanese fans befriended together finnick and gazelle, guess they like blondes.
>>86443863>finnick and gazelleHmm, I don't have any problems with it.
>>86444093me too, both like music, completely different personalities, zero chance of meeting.it's amusing idea.
>>86433085Intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor
Would you kiss Nick?
>>86445230it's a fictional character, i do not have such urges.
>>86429980That's a brown recluse
>movie is about a girl cop not letting her size get her down and beating prejudice>small 4-foot girl cop IRL kills an unarmed nig and likely deemed her group as "unfit" for police dutiesSo much for trying everything.
>>86448160More like a bunny was hired due to affirmative action/voting numbers bait and then blackmailed a more competent character to solve the case. If it wasn't for Nick she'd literally have never solved the case.
>>86445230I wouldn't mind at all.
>>86445900Death to the Polish
>>86432639Matrix reference? I'm not sure what you're asking.
>>86414080he looks like a sonic boom character with that collar on
>>86445230Who wouldn't have a smooch with those wonderfully smug lips?
link to the thread with people who worked on the movie?
>>86441439All fiction must derive from something real I assume.
>>86441439The best fiction is allegory>Star Trek:TNG, rich with messages, vs TOS, DS9 and voyager>Frankenstein: Or the modern Prometheus >Fahrenheit 451>Moby Dick>The Great Gatsby
>>86456853>Star Trek:TNG, rich with messages, vs TOS, DS9 and voyagerBullshit, TOS was the most message-heavy series
>>86456906It's the difference between 50 McDoubles or 10 Steaks
>>86419142Woah, it's almost like you're suggesting that the CIA never worked with and fiscally supported the Nicaraguan rebels that came into our country and trafficked drugs into urban American communities.http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html
>>86417510I'm getting real tired of those faces. How can the studio not realize how uncanny they are?
>>86419277Than was uncalled for.
>>86458376His face looks like a mix of pig and ape facesHers look like two cut cones put together with Disney Princess face slapped on then.
>>86427550I know Star Wars (the original) was shit on by Francis Ford Coppola.
>>86414080So glad they didn't. Otherwise the mascots wandering around Disney would look awfully strange and dark.
>>86463138we could've got a trigger happy strung out rabbit. might've been fun.
>>86463138We almost got Disney Infinity figures with slave nick and nazi hopps.That was so impertinent. I cannot imagine any kid's books or merch based on that movie
>>86456853DS9 and voyager had messagesDS9 told me that if you're going to fight a war, you better fight to fucking win. Voyager told me that women shouldn't captain spaceships.
>>86451225I think he looks like a kinky slut.
http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Zootopia-Graphic-Novel/dp/1772751774they could at least update the cover, or something.
>>86465311>>86465311Think I'll be able to get it at my LCS?
It would be way to easy to render a shock collar inoperable.
>>86463138>Otherwise the mascots wandering around Disney would look awfully strange and dark.You say that like it would've been a bad thing.Anyway, is it weird that I don't think starting off with "mandatory shock collars for the untermenschen" would get in the way of ending on an up note but the Gisnep braintrust did?
>>86419137Adjust for inflation.
>>86467578err.. i think my brain is too small to understand (or my english not good enough), but what do you mean?>>86467654what does this make?
Why would someone draw Nick having his wife get pregnant with someone else before getting married?
>>86467231cover with it rubber or aluminium foil, right? actually the whole thing started with one sentence "for thousands of year no animal ate another, but just to be safe we have the shock collars" , the whole "just to be safe" came out of nowhere,( it's in the documentary).the whole thing was badly written. but hey, that Morris scene would make Hannibal Lecter cry, so let's keep trying!
>>86467987Nah, you just have overreactive-autism m8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=ZHURiOqMVTIi am so glad this is not canon.
>>86453587SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT BLUE, AND THEY SERIOUSLY CAUSE SENSORY OVERLOADS IN ME!!! SEGA NEEDS TO RECALL EVERYTHING SONIC BOOM AND CHANGE SONIC'S ARM COLOUR BACK IMMEDIATELY!!!FOLLOW ME IN BOYCOTTING SONIC BOOM, UNTIL SEGA WISES UP, RECALLS EVERYTHING AND CHANGES HIS ARM COLOUR BACK, NOW!!!Time healed me some and I was recovering and doing better. Now, ANOTHER BLUE ARMED GAME IS BEING MADE?!!!#SEGA has ruined a peaceful, pleasant life for me again. It is Payback!
>>86469703>not wanting a bunny-fox chase sceneWhy? Are you seriously that triggered over the other shit?
Did the police officers wear shock collars in the original story format?
Guess it´s a good time to post this here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHURiOqMVTIWhat do you think, will we ever get Zistopia: The Movie ?
>>86469998Don't call anybody!
>>86450595>>86432639The 'redpill' is basically someone who has woken up to the 'truth' that you've gotta be an alpha male to get bitches because no one respects beta males. There's some racial aspects to it too, but your average redpiller has the rough attitude as your stereotypical Redditor or /pol/-goer.It's a Matrix reference, but given that the red pill was being handed out by a black man, I really doubt that any of them would've taken it.
>>86467987>for thousands of year no animal ate anotherThat's really dumb. Even in the real world cannibalism exist, I imagine that in Zootopia world a lot of murders would involve "cannibalism". The shock collar idea would make more sense if it came after a horrible war or something.
>>86469703Nick might be a slick fox, but I don't think mammals can slide that far on asphalt.
>>86463138Someone post that concept art of Judy where she looks really masculine and angry
They knew exactly what they were getting themselves into when they made this movie.
>>86470518There were no predator cops in the T.A.M.E. universe. And technically the spy movie concept came first, with either Nick or Jack as protagonist.
>>86475097>DIAMONDSGoddammit /co/, first the twink catboy and now this.
>>86474970but it's so funny! so funny it hurts!
>>86470137make it funny, not mean spirited.
>>86414080Your mom looked pretty hot with a collar on last night.
>>86477189Man dont give the mods an excuse to delete our threads
why is it called zootopia when theres no topias?
>>86478526Nope. An enthusiast did up a Judy Hopps model for the program Blender (see attached pic). Other Blender artists have produced several poses of varying quality.
>>86478676Wut is this from?
>>86478854I think it might be from a japanese artist's pixiv, but not sure.Saved it a long time ago
>>86478526Some fan made a Hopps model in blender pretty soon after the movie came out, and uploaded it to a dropbox and shared the link in the zootopia general.From there it spread across the web hence why everybody and their grandma is using it for porn
>>86415605It was a nuanced, mature look at race in the modern world which is why people ignored that part of it or said it was secretly racist I guess.Whatever it made a billion dollars I'm happy.
>>86479003a billyun dollars, baby.
>nick is running away, the collar is triggered by increased heartbeat rate but doesn't go off in this sceneIt was inconsistent trash of a movie, but at least final scenes were more polished.
>>86417774>"billion " is a memeThis is on the level of retarded as>Improvement isnt always a good thing
>>86481972When is improvement not a good thing?When it's Home Improvement
>>86432900see, the animation here is godly. Imagine it on just slightly more realistic characters, and it would look INCREDIBLE.
>>86472618but of course i can't wait to see "punish the fox" movie with no real payoff, i fucking love revenge stories but here there was none.only suffering. he wasn't even a fighter, but a punching bag.
>>86484377why the long face? it's just an overrated furry movie, grow a pair!
>>86473604But what if I wake up one day and realize that I should be an adorable and qt grill this entire time? Does that mean that I'm redpilled?
>>86486452Nah, that's 'bluepill' territory. If you're not a white alpha male, you're not redpilled.
>>86486477I always thought its more about what had been outlined in the book "manipulated males". In terms of the way women influences society by shaming men and maintaining a threat narratives.