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Zootopia Thread

Why are the Zootopia threads dying?
chances for a second movie?
thoughts on the "original" plot.
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>>84405543
We all moved to /trash/
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>>84405591
The fuck we have. That place is just full of pathetic role playing of OCS and out of character shit.
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>>84405591
why?
>>84405699
looked at the /trash/ thread. It is trash.
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jannies have a "delete on sight" order for some reason
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Because Nick and Judy aren't a couple.
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>>84405827
have you even seen the movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWDtPOMnqD8

they are
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>>84405886
There's nothing implying a relationship outside of close friendship.
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>>84405543
>Why are the Zootopia threads dying?

There's nothing to discuss.
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>>84405921
"close friendship" you really think so?
>>84405957
it is a pity. Really like the movie
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>>84405886
Wtf are you on.. glue or 'ludes? My Dad loves me, we aren't a couple. Jeezus christ... you're a special kind of stupid.
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>>84405921
The directors said they wanted Judy and Nick to be soul mates. So while the movie established a friendship it is pretty obvious that it will escalate.
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>>84406084
this :
>>84406153
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>>84405957

We can't run out of things to discuss.
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>>84406397
why are people attracted to clawhouser. Tell me
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>>84406571
He is cute.
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>>84406703
i mean this.
This is not cute. He is the kind of guy that gets friendzoned all the time
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>>84405591
this. /trash/ zootopia threads are great.
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>>84406800
Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he isn't cute.
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Not because the mods turned gains us but the whole board. I SHIP THE SAILS THAT SAIL THE SHIP
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>>84406859
this.
It has a reason the board is called Trash.
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>>84406859
I completely agree, anon. /trash/ is fucking dreadful and it's a shame that janny will delete this thread when he wakes up for his """job"""
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>>84406943
what do you mean?
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>>84405814
There is no transparency with 4chan, and whenever they decide that a certain type of thread is "banned," they never announce it. They just delete on sight and don't even post an announcement or amend the board rules.
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>>84405543
Some janitors keeps deleting it, just because they can. (And we aren't breaking the rules). This and the end of the hype, most of Zotopia grups of other sites (facebook, whatspp, skype, etc) are dying too.
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>>84407009
why should someone delete a normal thread? I havent been to /co/ often.
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>>84406800
Because he's cute.

Technically we shouldn't like any characters that way. They're animals.
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>>84406974
cute
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>>84407166
the characters show a human characteristic. So, technically, if we like the charakter of the person in the movie. It doesnt matter if he is shown as an animal in the movie. We like the charakter. Not the fact that he is an animal
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>>84407166
Clawhauser is not cute. He's fat and gross.
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>>84405543
This is the movie with the cute fox in it, right? Oh yeah it is, I liked that one.
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How come the tundra district is right next to the desert district and doesn't have a dome to keep a temperature difference?
They do all this worldbuilding and show how all the different species can live in one city, they clearly put a lot of thought into making the world believable, but apparently a big part of Zootopia has to break thermodynamics to function? And we just have to accept it because "it's a cartoon", like anything goes? No, I refuse.
Yeah, there are cooling machines, but the energy cost of using them outdoors is insane, and they necessarily produce more heat than they absorb. Try installing air conditioning in your backyard sometime, it's a LOT less efficient than cooling a house of the same size.
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>>84407271
That's a funny way to say cute.
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>>84407271
some people find his character cute
>>84407253
and i find the character of judy hopps cute. btw. I would never jerk of to a rabbit :^) who does that.
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>>84407298
Not me, that's for damn sure
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>>84407362
No, since the owner doesn't give a fuck
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>>84407387
this
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>>84407385
What sick fuck would?
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>>84407385
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>>84407350
I personally don't mind the planet of autism that is /trash/. When they're done being autists the threads are kinda comfy. Hell, sometimes even while they're being autists. I would take the old /co/ threads any day of the week (the RP stuff isn't for me), but the janitors are making damn sure that doesn't happen any time soon.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
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>>84407447
Why did he post this?
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>>84407405
i mean it is an fictional character
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>>84407481
fuck this image
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>>84407447
the movie is 200% furry. How can we post none furry content?
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>>84407286
Have you ever stuck your hand behind the back of a refridgerator? Or an air conditioner? Anything that blasts cold air out one side usually blasts hot air out the other. It's because it needs to suck out heat into a heat-sink and disperse that heat where it won't be a bother. For a fridge this is into your kitchen and for an air conditioner this is the exterior of the building. The heat being absorbed out of Tundra Town gets vented into Sahara Square. Their placement next to one-another makes perfect sense, although you are right that the lack of insulation in Tundra Town means maintaining sub-zero temps would require an unsustainable amount of power.
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>>84406153
Soulmates aren't necessarily lovers though. The lovers are the most common way we use the term, the the basis for it is in companionship which can be romantic or just friendship.
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>>84407447
Rules that are arbitrarily enforced, Anon.
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>>84407552
"the rules" doesnt mean anything
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>>84407405
>>84407481
Stop it faggot(s), keeps this shit on /trash/ faggots like you make mod/janitor hate us.
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>>84407585
No, they hate you because you keep making these threads on a daily basis when there's nothing left to discuss.
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>>84407585
sry mate. Was just a short joke
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>>84407626
that was fast
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Forgot everything about that post. But janny is going to delete this thread anyway so may as well have some fun
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>>84407687
this
have some fun guys
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Ayyyyyy... what's happening in here?
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>>84407512
I already know that. Read the whole post.
>and they necessarily produce more heat than they absorb
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>>84407529
>Soulmates aren't necessarily lovers though. The lovers are the most common way we use the term, the the basis for it is in companionship which can be romantic or just friendship.

The directors have directly addressed how if there is a sequel they will have to address whether their feelings become romantic or not and that may displease some fans, but one of those very same directors has been shamelessly approving shipping stuff and even approved of the name "Wildehopps" for the ship so there is a very big meta indication of where their relationship would head.
They even had jokes about it in the earlier draft in which Stu is the one who tries to drag Judy back to Bunnyburrow.

And judging by online posts, fan-art and fan-fiction I would say that 90% of fans, even normies, would like the bunny and the fox to kiss.
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>>84407724
source of this?
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>>84407724

No. Now they will be justified in deleting this thread.
BLAME THIS ONE GUY RIGHT HERE.
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>>84407766
I dont know. But it is allready deleted. yay. Wasn't me though
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You faggots post lewd pictures of that fucking rabbit then cry victim when Janny deletes your threads. Fuck off to /trash/ if you want to fuck the rabbit so bad.
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>>84407362
Nope. Hiroshima gives zero fucks. This all probably seems extremely petty and silly to him and not worth his time to look into.
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>>84407784
it would have getting deleted anyway
>>84407802
hey, calm down. 1 lewd picture. and it is deleted. calm your tits
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>>84407802
I think it might be two different people posting those two different things anon
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>>84407802
Judy is more that just a rabbit. Delete your post.
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>>84407350

The Zistopia webcomic is pretty great, and it's already huge.
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>>84407802
Well.... Fuck you too, buddy
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>>84407858
>>84407876
you know what i mean
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>>84407885
She's a big bunny
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>>84407885
>pretending to be funny
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>>84407885
Delete
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Nick is the least interesting Zootopia character
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Will dump some quallity art
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>>84407905
We're two separate people m80
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>>84407954
the movie was about him at the start
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>>84407802

I will have you know that a very significant number of us do not want to do that to the rabbit.

We want the rabbit and the fox to declare their love for each other and then make love in the missionary position while holding hands.
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>>84407975
I'm glad the movie changed. Proto-Zootopia would've been awful.
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>>84407976
>We want the rabbit and the fox to declare their love for each other and then make love in the missionary position while holding hands.
I don't. I don't want that shipping nonsense at all.
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>>84407937
Why? This is hilarious.
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>>84408040
it is not funny and cringe
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>>84408040
Please do not question the bun
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>>84406859
>It is interesting because Disney obviously didn't plan much merchandise or marketing for it so it really was a surprise hit.

if these writers didnt fuck around with "muh feels the movie" , disney would give the movie toys it deserves.

still, the damage can be undone.
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>>84408047
I don't want to watch a movie about animals in a gulag
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>>84407115
>We have a discord!
>... whatever that is

Anon you should explain a little what discord is to attract more people.

Explain that it is a way to have discussion about zootopia without fear of getting the thread prunned.
Explain that people can discuss about the movie without the need to go to /trash/.
Explain that it is SFW and has a friendly atmosphere.

But man make it more tempting, not just a "we have this!" post without any image!
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>>84408139
It's a Skype group, but not skype.
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>>84408005

It would have been a great Don Bluth style movie. But it would have bombed.
No way is a dark animated movie going to do well now that parents have the internet to overplay the tone of a movie and warn them to avoid it.

>>84408035
Not quite nonsense if one of the directors has been championing it.
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>>84408116
but it is a interesting setting. all preds are "under controll" and they only have 1 place to have fun. Wild times
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>>84408116

thank god pixar told them to fuck off with that shit

it was really thoughtless on their part thinking it would work.
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>>84408160
Page 2, the end of this scene as far as I know.
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>>84408160
Directors can make stupid decisions.
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>>84408139
Well, nobody else posts the fucking thing. I shall keep this in mind when the next (yes, janny, next) thread pops up
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>>84408167

yeah sure, portraying preds as jews was brilliant idea, just imagine the backlash,

>>84408183

we know which one is needed for the sequel, and who's not.
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>>84408183
the first ideas of a movie are most likely not good.
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>>84408216
btw, you can also post the video of the plot. not just pictures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z_Cl_RRS-c
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>>84408246

im waiting for willfanofmany's summary , could be fun.. in a way.
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>>84408160
>muh kids
Go away.
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was a nice comfy thread guys. I am going to sleep now, good night janny :*
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>>84408070
i love this reference
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>>84408279
Muh Kids is precisely why it would have failed in theaters.
You can not have a movie that dark succeed now.

Remember the movie "9"?

>>84408183
Alright now you are just being blatantly contrarian.
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>>84408070
>>84408477

>ending to proto-zoo

i think.
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>>84408517
Nah, the ship is really forced
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>>84408563
isnt it a ref to falling down?
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>>84408517
No one gives a shit about some dumb parents and how much money they gonna throw away. It's about telling story, fucking beautiful emotional story.
>b-but if it's not going to make a lot of money sequel is not gonna happened
It's not gonna happened even with all money in the world anyway.
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>>84408642

Sure.
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>>84408713
Except the original story was shit
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>>84408715
>directors want it, so it's not forced!
No. There's no set up for it.
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>>84408715
Glad you agree.
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>>84408713
>It's not gonna happened even with all money in the world anyway.

Even Wreck It Ralph is getting a sequel. Big Hero 6 is getting a cartoon. And Frozen 2 is in production.
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Thank you, whale oil anon, for drawing this for me... best picture ever....
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>>84408724
Tell me why. Oh wait, you can't tell me shit besides kids and money.
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>>84408779
It's a movie for children, and the whole point of making a movie is to make money, so I fail to see your point.
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>>84408779
It's not an inviting world. It is kinda interesting, but the concept isn't suited for a movie with talking animals.
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>>84408713
No, it's about money and popularity. Don Bluth, for example, have beautiful stories and films, but they are too dark and don't produced enught money. In the other hand, Ice Age stories are shit but pretty they are funny and popular and makes a lot of money. Life is unfair m8.
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Police Constable Judy Hopps...
GoodyTwoShoes.mp3
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>>84408796
>money
>>84408806
>it's too dark, you can't make different things
>>84408850
>money
>>84408887
>it's too dark, you can't make different things
Those are real people or it's just bots i'm talking to? I don't think i have any chance
to convince them anymore.
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>>84408779

Maybe in drawing straws here, but the old script was very... female. Just check the clip "women behind zootopia" they fully accepted these retarded collars, combine it with gay director and you get a disaster.
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>>84409142
You requested something diferent about money and kids. They told you it's too dark and you don't care. Better explain why money, kids or dark are bad answers.
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>>84409142
Still legit reasons why it's shit, regardless if you like it or not.
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>>84409142

I am not arguing the commercial aspect, I am arguing that you could not tell a satisfactory story of that setting in the short running time of a regular animated movie.
That was part of the argument that the Pixar guys gave to the Zootopia production team.

By the end of the movie there was no time/opportunity to redeem the city.
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>>84409317
did she died?
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>>84409475
You're still a furfag beta
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>>84409142

oh, Howard, why are you in such denial? :^)
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>>84409359
... no... jesus, anon... just not fimished.
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>>84409475
>letting anyone know you have any interest in this movie outside of possibly acknowledging you've seen it.
>let alone a deep interest including posting on 4chan about the movie

They were right about the beta furfag thing anon
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>>84409475
>Friend saw my background
>pic related
>"Wow, that's a awesome film, anon"
>I can't talk with him about the film because I don't want to show my power level
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>>84409581
I couldn't help it that's my lockscreen ;_;
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>>84405543
Late to the party here since I only saw it recently.

Aside from the basic "buddy cop" storyline, I found a lot of the underpinnings of the movie interesting.

Humans never existed in Zootopia's reality. There are no "domestic" species, no cows, domestic dog or cat breeds or or domesticated livestock. The one anomaly is the pink skinned pig at the DMV. Every other character is a member of a wild species.

Only mammals are sentient. Presumably carnivores are still eating meat, it would just be birds, fish and reptiles. I doubt we'll see it, but I could imagine farming large reptiles, such as alligators, or birds like emus or ostriches.

The fact that all species have thoroughly suppressed their base instincts, but they're still there. Granted, it took a powerful drug to suppress higher brain function, but once under the influence of Night Howler, the predators affected seemed to revert completely to a primitive state. Imagine if some predators started using a diluted version of the Night Howler drug to ride their instincts while retaining some control. I doubt Disney would tackle drug use, but there it is.

Guns don't appear to exist. Which kind of makes sense. Every one is equipped with some degree of natural weaponry, and in the case of the police force, a gun would either be massive overkill (a rabbit policing Little Rodentia, or a Rhino with practically any other species wouldn't need a gun) or woefully inadequate (what's a pistol carried by a rabbit going to do to an elephant besides annoy him?)

The theme of people trying to disrupt the harmony of Zootopia for personal gain is a strong one, plot wise. They should probably roll with a variant of that.
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>>84409689
>>I can't talk with him about the film because I don't want to show my power level
You have autism. You can talk about a fucking movie without revealing yourself.
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>>84409702
>SFW
Eww
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>>84406974

C-cute
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>>84405543
Its just the mods being faggots again, deleting any zootopia-related thread.
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>>84409689
>>I can't talk with him about the film because I don't want to show my power level
I know this feel
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>>84408759
You're welcome, bb
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>>84409758
Maybe, but last time I talked about a petting zoo people film, people thought I was a furry.

>>84409819
Thanks bro.
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>>84409782
Can post lewds, just no obvious porn
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>>84409262
Not anyone that's posted yet, but it could have been the perfect start to a trilogy centered on fixing a broken and divided city. I think people really overestimate how poorly a more noir Zootopia would have been received, everything's grimdark these days and people eat it up every time when it's done well. Kids loved Swat Kats and Invader Zim and all those other darker-than-normal cartoons, no reason this would be different. Especially if Disney marketed it smart, and they're one of the best at marketing.
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>>84409703
Its ok, its a cute picture. We're all on 4chan anyway so who cares if you are a beta furfag
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>>84409689
I understand how you feel, but you don't have to worry. Just talk about the movie just like anyone else; don't make your power level obvious.
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>>84409946
I don't, I want to fuck the character no one else wants to fuck
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>>84409975
Flash?
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>>84409946
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>>84409990
No, but he gets about the same, if not less screentime.
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>>84410022
She needs to shave.
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>>84410049
She's perfect as she is.
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>>84410022
>The flesh under the fur is just the colour of the fur

DROPPED
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>>84410108
You're supposed to just zoom in on the buns and appreciate the incredible lighting tbqh
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>>84410115
They, both the predator and the "vermin" prey, both evolved beyond their primal roles. That's why they live in a civilized utopia.
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>>84410165
Yeah.. it's cool I guess.
I'd prefer to see Nick up close like that tho
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>>84409910

It may have worked story-wise as a dark trilogy, sure, but I doubt it would have done well financially.
Movie reviews would have started with "Your children will cry while watching this movie" and that would have been it. A flop on the first movie.
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>>84410336
>thinking of bunny holes
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>>84410279
Like I said in that post you replied to, I think you guys seriously overestimate how badly it would do financially. Especially with Disney's marketing department and how well they can manipulate reviewers.
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>>84410336
The face he's making in the second panel implies he's confused or asking a question, and yet that sentence is punctuated with an exclamation point.
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>>84410675
>>84410766
She's not even a real rabbit.

If she were she would have died from eating all those carrots towards the beginning of the movie.

Your lust is directed towards a woman in a mascot costume.
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>>84410796
Delete this post. Don't ever insult Judy again.
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>>84410820
JUDY IS AN UGLY BUNNY

WITH UGLY BUNNY EARS

AND SHE WILL NEVER LOVE YOU
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>>84408080
Judy too hawt
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>>84411067
Ugly?
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>>84410336
Is it me or is there something off about how Nick is build here?
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>>84411349
He's built kind of like a deer.
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>>84411381
Yeah, I think thats it. Neck is too long, and the torso needs to be longer.
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>>84409706

>Presumably carnivores are still eating meat, it would just be birds, fish and reptiles.

I remember reading somewhere that it was decided they'd moved to insect-based protein or something but it never actually made it into the film.
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>>84406859
Name of the artist? At least give us that.
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>>84411469
There are, according to the directors, some Bug-Burga packages in the film.

But they also eat fish.

They intentionally avoided any references to birds or reptiles in case they wanted them further on.
But fat chance of seeing any gators in the sequel after that one kid died. No toothy reptiles in any Disney films.
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>>84411527
That's fine.

Gators are assholes.

Always biting people for no reason, I just wanted a hug and he's all like 'noooo, let me just bite off your fingers and make your dad yell at you for ruining the vacation while he wraps a rag around your finger and takes you to the ER'

Bunch of old pricks is what they are.
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>>84411624
It is good that you told me
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The fuck, posts got nuked for no reason? What's the point anymore, these threads are slow.
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>>84409706

Welcome, and thank you for the last sentences, it's a great idea to continue the stories in zootopia,, maybe there will be someone who'll want to change the city, unify it, but we'll get a montage of scenes that despite having differences, all locations have its own strenghts and flaws and yet animals are happy there. Just an odd idea that just popped in my mind, perfect opportunity to show night district,night Sahara, outback island and many more.

Fresh minds have best ideas.
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>>84411827
Yes..... join us, anon...
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>(Dead)

stop it mods, what am i doing?
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>>84412225
Can you draw Judy dressed up like the easter bunny and laying a bunch of eggs?
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>>84412246
>Judy laying eggs
... yeah, probably not gonna go there....

... also, really? A bunny in a bunny costume?
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>>84412330
Yes

Also why not?

Egg laying is the most beautiful thing in the world.
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>>84412340
.... no, it definitely is not.
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>>84412468
It is though, second only to a young reptile making it's first kill.
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>>84405957
But this is fresh news from the weekend.
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>>84412030

...Soros?
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>>84405543

-no new canon content, fanarts/fanfiction can't carry discussion anymore.

-50/50. depends if Disney wants to rely on animation as their main source of income again, they're focuses on milking star wars and marvel properties now.

-it was shit, "muh fursecution" the movie, too frequent "feel" scenes always making me groan in agony.

summer break guys(and girls) lets enjoy our place at discord and return to 4chan when we'll get some REAL news about the franchise.
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Shame
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>>84408084
Merchandising rights for Disney movies actually retain their value pretty well. I mean, it's not like you still see Lion King merch everywhere, but a movie that has proven itself already but has untapped merch potential is more valuable in some ways than an unknown.
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>>84408715
You can't keep soulmates apart.
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>>84411184
>that tail wiggle
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>>84412571
How the hell did Alice in Blunderland make that much money, anyway? Do Yuropoors and Asians really love Johnny Depp that much?
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>>84414361
Alice in Wonderland was the first 3D film to be released after Avatar. Hype for 3D was at its peak and the higher prices on those tickets helped.
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>Episode of Zootopia TV show
>Judy senses that Nick is feeling down because he doesn't have any guy friends, so she suggests he try hanging out with the wolf cops
>throughout the episode Nick subjects himself to an escalating series of physical challenges in order to prove he's "one of the pack" whenever he's with the wolves
>he is clearly not physically big or tough enough to keep up with the wolves' shenanigans, and keeps getting himself physically injured
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>>84414391
The movie wasn't even filmed in 3D. I remember seeing it and immediately noticing it didn't look nearly as good as Avatar.

Badly converted 3D movies probably killed the excitement for 3D more than anything else. If you can't be assed to film in 3D don't bother with 3D at all.
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>>84414361
The correct question is, why is the phantom shit is up there with them.
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>>84414546
The first new Star Wars movie since Return of the Jedi. Why do you think?
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>>84414257

Oh, but we do, Lion Guard is the prime example of making profits from a movie made over twenty years ago
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>>84414441

I had an idea for that tbe other day

>Nick and judy are out with the rest of the precinct
>Delgato, Fangmeyer and Snarlov all engage in a "who can eat the hottest food" contest
>around the scotch bonnets they start egging Nick on to join in, Judy tries to dissuade him but he joins in anyway.
>he is hilariously unprepared for the chillies but continues as a matter of pride
>Snarlov finally orders a bunch of naga ghost bugs and looks at Nick as he eats them all at once.
>Without anywhere to go from there, Nick gets the same bugs.
>raises an eyebrow at Snarlov as they arrive.
>he reaches into his belt and pulls out the pepper spray.
>audible gasps. Even Bogo tries to talk him down but Nick's having none of it.
>maximum smug as he sprays the bugs with liberal amounts of pepper spray
>eats it all at once.
>jump cut to Nick in the hospital throwing up with bloodshot eyes and gasping for breath between hurling.
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>>84408779
You can't fix the broken society in protozoo to begin with. Unless you can think of a closure good enough for people to love the film and its theme, it'll never work out.

Also, the collars don't even make sense in the first place.
>predators haven't even prey for thousands of years
>but just to be safe, we slap on collars on every pred shocking them everytime they become too agitated or too emotional
They're not even allowed to express sorrow or excitement without getting zapped, how does that even work out?
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>>84415060

the moment you hear
>just to be safe
You realize these 7 writers went FULL RETARD and you just leave the screening room.

This is what I'd do.

(8th guy came to the game late, based Johnston, worked on WiR and made some of these reversed tropes like reluctant parents, dmv sloths, naturalist club).
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>>84415160
Also, I'm not even stretching things out with the "Just to be safe" thing, it's even in the documentary itself at 24:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
You can't make this shit up.
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>>84415195

every single fanart of collared nick, every single image of collared predator from the artbook, every single thing made for "Wilde Times" park, every toy missprint, is a results of their fucking S-T-U-P-I-D-I-T-Y.

no, not incompetency, stupidity.

I am incompetent when i am told to print a page and i print it upside down, not when i fucking break it on the 5th try.

And not a single of them, wants to admit "i fucked up, i'm sorry", whether it was Jared Bush, Byron Howard or even fucking Lassetter.

thank god there were people who fixed this mess, but i am not gonna trust any of them with future works, am i harsh?

Yes, I fucking AM.

And we all should be.
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>>84415634

that single drawing is the only thing i like from the protozoo concept arts, that cute snuggly bunny crawling to proto nick , these surprised kid bunnies , that smirking hopps... adorable.

but then you get this message:

it was all a lie, this nigger dont eat people!
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>>84415587
.. I... I kinda liked the original theme...
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>>84408019

shit this is great
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>>84416501

damn, i love these comics that give you comfy feel.
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>>84416314

>past tense.

did the curtain drop for you, my friend, do you still want to fool yourself that it was "good" idea?
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>>84416501
This made me laugh.
>Nick is their kid
>supportive
What a joke.
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>>84416594

is this better?
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>>84416627
Way better. Still hilarious to have those two be his parents.. somehow.
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>>84416501
Maybe I just have a conservative family, but never did they give me the ol' "go get your dick wet, son" pep talk.
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>>84416653

actors, they are all actors.
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>>84416686
>still wearing those outfits
>still referred to by their "actor" name
It's just a square peg in a round hole anon. Let me laugh.
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>>84416558
...no... I'm still hoping for a storyboard to be released
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>>84416771

i have no editional skills, i can show you videos separately ,

however willfanofmany is going to combine all the saved storyboard scenes and concept art to show everybody how this movie could look.

but it doesnt matter, because IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE FROM THE BEGINNING.
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Judy is a member of the most despised group in America. She would quickly become like how Byron originally envisaged
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>>84407612
Oh so dumbing of age is allowed but not this because mister admin personally doesn't like zootopia?
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>>84405543
because it was never more than just a flavor of the month. Yes, it was popular, yes, it earned serious cash, but the movie was never more than just that
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It's all about context.
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Doing a post
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>>84419512
This is a nice post.
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>>84419512

>flashing badge.


i love how georgeous everythin looks in this movie.
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>>84419556
Nice to see you're still here lad. Hope you're in the Discord too tbqh
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>>84419574
You might be surprised.
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>>84419609
Clever bunny
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10722094

just a simple question
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>>84419880
I say don't break up the team.
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>>84420261

it's still in the future.
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I would frame a picture of the smug fox on my wall
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>>84421520

sure thing, special snowflake.
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>>84421679
what
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>>84421693
Who is this semen demon?
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>>84421495
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>>84421894
soulmates
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>>84422981
>Catalyst
>CATalyst
>CAT

I groaned. Still cute though
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>>84422981
That resolution sort of ruins that picture with the red on blue.
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>>84417613
It was more than that in Asia. Nick is hasubando to many ladies.
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>>84417613
There's two comics coming out later this year, so there's that.

Really Zootopia should get a TV series at some point. Preferably 2D animated so we can see some of that great 2D designwork moving.
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>>84425715
It's a fact that the ladies go crazy for Nick. He's Robin Hood for a new generation.
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>>84417242
>tfw you will never see Hopps' tail wiggle as she crushes a filthy pred's windpipe
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>tfw the jannies killed /Zoo/ on /co/
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Where did that bong go that was drawing historical zootopia things? Like the Rhino grenadier - that looked fun
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>>84426476

it doesn't have to be about nick and judy, it could be about various citizens
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>>84405543

They're dying because you can only stay on something for so long. It's a good movie but people aren't going to go on these threads on the time.
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>>84432553
Everyone would want Nick and Judy though. They can introduce lots of new characters, and they can give the other precinct cops distinct characterizations and stories, but Nick and Judy should remain our window into the world.
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>>84432647
No, because threads were constantly deleted by janitors over the past few days. The Discord is more alive than ever.
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Current sketch progress...
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>>84433451
nice, you should do more original sketches...i like your art style
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anyone have the pic of nick wiggling his ears?
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>>84433508
Thanks. I'm already working on another. I might go back to this one later and fix what needs fixing.
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>>84433488
BUT WAIT, THERES MORE!
join in the next 5 minutes, and receive an ADDITIONAL 2+ INTERNETS! You won't want to pass up this offer...
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>>84433658
My favorite part of this drawing is it has a character from the movie that this thread is about. So its also on topic and shouldnt be deleted!
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>>84433688
Glad you understand, anonymous poster
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>>84433488
>>84415634
>>84411827
>>84406872
>>84406880
>>84406889
>>84406902
>>84406912
>>84406924
>>84406934
>>84406946
>>84406954
>>84406974
>>84407115

WITNESS THEM!!!!
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>>84434017
This is why you faggots get your threads nuked.
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Zootopia?

More like POOtopia!

Because it's a poopy, poopy movie!

BOOM! Roasted!
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>>84434114
Phoneposter scum
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>>84433658
>Humans
>Nick without tame collar
Commit sudoku
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>>84421761
Nicholas Wildman
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>rude porcupine who will be thrown into the ceiling.


plus that logo... this is so different
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>>84434353
I have no idea where they thought they were going when this picture got released. It seems like they has already ditched the collars but still wanted Nick as the protagonist...
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>>84434684

it's from 2013. so this logo is a placeholder. i think.
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>>84434607
Will Judy's family disown her?
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>>84434684
oh, you mean crowd of bunnies... they are disturbed for some reason.
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>>84434797

they are fine with foxes, did you forget about gideon?

you know, i really wonder about the time between the break up and the nighhowlers revelation.

what did judy do during all these months? did she bawww'led herself to the pillow everyday?
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>>84434797
They'd get over it eventually
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>>84434607
source?
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>>84434914
>they are fine with foxes

As business partners, not as an unholy union with their daughter
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>>84434954

that scene was deleted! it's not canon!

learn the difference!
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>>84434934
Dunno
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>>84435087
>>84435327
That's just sad.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2015/08/15/disneys-zootopia-earns-big-laughs-at-d23/#3766ad9d4f56

this interesting, they showed the original jumbo hustle at D23.
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>>84405543
So in that recent interview Byron mentions one concept for the film was going to be Zoro with animals
>tfw Zorro is Spanish for Fox

The other one was going to be animals in space
>tfw Star Fox
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>>84436744

>imitation is flattery in the sincerest form

yeah, those weren't too creative ideas.

protozoo sounded like a bit like Blacksad ripoff, too.
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http://geekculture.co/welcome-to-zootopia/
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Quick come up with animal pun names for celebrities/bands/movies/businesses/whatever.

Mink 182
Fuzzy Osbourne
Matthew Fox
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>>84439653
buns `n roses
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>>84439709
Goatorhead

RIP in pieces Lemmy
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>bigger opening than Zootopia
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>>84440239

yes we know, and we know the reason, dizny didnt want to risk much because

>>84408084


fortunately everthing went better than expecred and we dont have to worry about the franchise.

SLOP will be forgotten in a week or two.
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>>84440239
And releasing during summer vacation helped too. Zootopia's opening weekend was only the 76th biggest in unadjusted dollars, and just the 7th biggest of this year. Its strengths instead were in how long it maintained a steady pace and how big it exploded in Asia.
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>>84440330

dont forget no competition. KFP simply.. flopped
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>>84439653
Animal Collective
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>>84439653
Ibex Twin
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>>84439653
Does Nick still live in a shithole like this canonically? I wondered if he was homeless considering Judy found him literally under a bridge.
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>>84440981
Hadn't seen that art before, tried to look up source, but GIS went in a completely wrong direction. Would make a good toy, at least.

But then I remembered filenames are a thing and found it over there.
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>>84440829
>mfw windowlicker but with cows mooing comes to mind
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>>84441042

we dont know, in concept arts preds were portrayed as scum of the earth so they lived in slums and the like.

but after the VERY LATE script rewrite preds are being stereotyped, no longer demonized.

this is both interesting: we can make our own headcanon

and infuriating: so where does he actually live?! under the bridge? in the warehouse? or maybe he's just chilling in a small apartment similar to judy's? answers, dammit, ANSWERS!
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>>84441631
Interesting, the more I think about it the less sure I am of any possibility.

On one hand, Nick doesn't seem to show any real signs of homelessness aside from hanging out in weird places (even more so if we take "$200 a day" at face value), but then again facades are kind of his thing.

Personally, I feel like he'd be the sort to keep a number of safehouses rather than a real home. The warehouse being one, maybe a forgotten apartment somewhere, some people with spare rooms and a favor owed, that sort of thing.
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>>84441801

could be, we'll never know, now that Judy helped him turn his life straight he no longer needs to wander all over the city to sleep.
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>>84442002
He could always sleep under a desk at the office.
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>>84442080
Wouldn't fly at any job, let alone a police station.

It'd make for a fun little story though if he got a reputation as an excessively hard worker, but only because he was actually staying late and "arriving" early because he's sleeping in the basement or something.
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>>84442080

shoo!
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>>84443602

uh oh i dont like where it went.

stupid byron and/or jared, came up with the most creative idea for a wrong movie.
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>>84416684
I did, both my mom and dad told me to go get some, enjoy my youth, just another thing to add tot he dissapointment list.
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>>84439653

Mink Floyd, Ramstein, Huey Lewis and the Ewes, JS Bark, Dean Marten, Dave Mustelid, Kanine West.
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>>84422981
>>84424491
I'd play it.
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>>84443809
How much fanfic bullshit is there?
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>>84446355

zero to none.
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Why are some people here so fucking butthurt about proto-Zootopia's existance? I'd read a dystopian sci-fi inspired book about that exact setting if they bothered to write. Modern Noir mystery in that mammalian city sounds impressive, and the bits and pieces we can make out through the deleted scenes and art can weave a fantastic tale.
Sounds to me that people wouldn't be satisfied with a "step in the right direction" ending it would have had, and all for what we got at the end of Zootopia which honestly would be completely naive to think it resolved any of the prejudices that are in that city.
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>>84446783

because no one expected to find it in a movie about talking animals. especially DISNEY'S movie about talking animals.


it's poking hornet's nest or something.
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>>84446902
Doesn't that make it endearing? Why hate on it when it took a different approach than their usual work. Even so i still consider what we got a step above several recent releases.

Disney usually leaves darker tones to the work of the villain, as in the "bad" sides of the world presented are only shown when they're around, Zootopia didn't truly have that, the villain merely forced out and extorted feelings that citizens had towards each other and shot it straight to ten.

I appreciate the world they tried to make before, and i completely agree it was almost completely unmarketable compared to their end result but i think their first product, with a bit of refinement, could make a great story or comic.
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>>84447029

>could make a great story or comic.

been there, done that.
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>>84440330
Zootopia had legs.

SLOP is doing fine but I doubt it will be in the billion dollar club.
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>>84446401
>no one in that vault is dressed as a furry

wat
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>>84408913
>that thin and tight midriff and modest chest
>that attention to the seams of her skintight shirt
goodness
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>>84447136

that's the point!
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>>84447152
it's a lie though
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>>84447065
>nazi
>holocaust
Literally just our world with animal people.
Zootopia's world has their own history which is infinitely more interesting.
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>>84447235

go enjoy Zistopia comic, it's a fun read i heard.

no need to push it any further
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I just finished the movie, it was pretty great.

The fact that being a designated victim might mean you are an oppressor was a good point, even if never recognized in real life.
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>>84447303
Hmmmm. Nah. I like pushing, and for some reason the author made that comic in 60's? Era. Which wtf even why. It's a good read but i don't quite like their interpretation of the world. Skipped too much world introductory stuff and not enough showing off the actual city.
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>>84447303
Like. I see the collars and im surprised their aren't any zen master preds in protozootopia. A character that is so attributed to the collar that their emotions and actions are always of a calm state.
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>>84447416

because it was set in semi 60s? it's like you forgot to did your reseatch.

>>84447462

these things are also great psychopath makers.
why do you think when Asians lose their shit, they REALLY lose their shit?
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>>84447558
>city in the 60s
>having the technology to make Sahara square and tundra town function
I'm not saying what you say is impossible but all the work in my artbook points towards a modern setting. Im certain one of the super early concepts like savage seas or savage city could have had that setting.
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>>84447558
Also >great psychopath makers
>proto Finnick
Also much higher potential of another villain, on the opposite side of the "in power" villains like Bellweathwr tried to be or Mayor Swinton.
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>>84447794

>In the earlier iterations of the story, Judy's character was portrayed as a somewhat aggressive figure; a seasoned officer, Judy's was much more of a cynic, being well-experienced and no-nonsense.[6] Furthermore, she was more of an outcast in earlier drafts; bunnies were typically an impersonal race that worked as phone operators. The number of rabbits were also emphasized (dramatically so) to further Judy's loss of identity amongst her own crowd—this would have been acknowledged, as her own father was unable to distinctly identify her.

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Judy_Hopps

>>84447831

stop, just stop.
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>>84447999
>The number of rabbits were also emphasized (dramatically so) to further Judy's loss of identity amongst her own crowd—this would have been acknowledged, as her own father was unable to distinctly identify her.

That's really harsh.
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>>84448307

there's not a single redeemable thing about that world. i cannot imagine what Pixar felt during that screening.
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>>84448419
they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.
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>>84448710

i'm just speechless
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>>84448419
Jeeze kind of sounds like the real world doesn't it.
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>>84448904
>not a single redeemable thing about the real world

I can think of one.
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soooo you guys do any /r/?
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>>84451236
As long as its not lewd, speak to the mechanic
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>>84451236
Lewd?
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>>84451405
>>84451287
non-lewd of course

judy being fed a carrot (NON LEWD) with an unamused expression
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>>84451487
If you join the Discord and ask there somebody may draw it. If you give me a day or two to do it and render it in Blender that's also an option- would like to try and model a carrot and have an idea for the scene
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>>84408517
9 was also kind of a trainwreck for reasons besides muh kids, though.

Look at the success of Avatar.
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>>84451487
the memes compel me
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>>84452222
Knew this is what somebody would do
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>>84452222
unf
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>>84452222
Kek and thanks
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>>84452222
>You don't have to tell me what happened
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>>84452222
Nice quads and content friend
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>>84447529
how does it work?? do I need to download anything?? a poster with starter steps would be nice
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>>84453739
Click on link, join, make account on site when prompted
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>>84453739
You copy the link into your browser and make an account.
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>>84405543
you think there is a chance we'll ever see Wild Times in a Special or theme park ride?
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why does Judy wear a bra
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>>84455166

WT park cannot return , it's against the spirit of the final movie, like everything proto- it was a mistake.

still the crew really liked it because it was the only positive thing from that world, it was their safe haven so they kept adding things to the park to make them feel better, and it slowed the production

still, Byron Howard wants to save it somehow , but it cannot be a park that separates prey and preds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-WMuZdgOLA
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>>84455816
I think they might use it for the Zootopia short, as a flashback to when Nick ran a sleezy scam amusement park. It wouldn't be predator/prey segregated, but rather it would just be a major safety hazard due to unprofessional construction.
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You could still have WT, but make it a park where both sides can delve into their nature, with both pred and prey partaking in the thrill of hunting and being hunted, in a safe and (somewhat) monitored environment. Lifeguard would take on a new meaning.
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>>84456460
>>84456606

Maybe, once again, Moore's magic touch is needed?
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>Just because you are intimidated by someone's superiority doesn't mean society isn't actually geared in your favour
We need more anti-feminist movies
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>>84455614
Why do you ask? I can't recall that ever being mentioned or shown.

Also I'd expect lagomorphs have multiple sets of nipples like other animals with large helpless litters. Don't know how many though.
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>>84457177
During the train approach scene and the concert at the end, Judy is wearing what's either a sports bra or a tank top under her T-shirt.

I think for the sake of not splitting hairs over it, they kept things simple in Zootopia and just decided that 2 breasts is the norm (as evidenced by Gazelle).

Functionally it's an adaptation for bipedal species anyway, so if they're supposed to be evolved it's not really any more far fetched than opposable thumbs.
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>>84443602

And this was just one kid, Morris.Now think about the other parents who did this to their children ,and their grandparents who had to go thru same experience.Thousands of them.
No! Millions.

>pull the trigger, piglet.jpg
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>>84457565
Yeah, usually I'm all into over-analyzing settings like this and making up fun evolutionary biology headcanons, but I'm totally content treating Zootopia as "they're all humanoid for reasons, go with it."

Because it's fucking cute.
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WAKE UP SHEEPLE
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>>84460075
BARK! BARK! BARK!
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>>84407954
Ah, you motherfucker?
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>>84460672
MEOW
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>>84445462
Bruce Springbok
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>>84412198
>tfw I'm gay for the fox
what the fuck is wrong with me? I'm straight btw
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Just watched it for the first time. I actually like it. Could have dropped the "we're not friends anymore!" thing that every movie does. The villain also worked better than in the other Disney movies that did the same thing. Wish we saw more of the city though.
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>>84462051
You're smugsexual
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>>84462084
Did you feel that the racial message was forced at all?
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>>84462084
they could've played the break-up scene better. I'm okay with them had some kind of misunderstanding with each other, but the scenario here wasn't that powerful to me
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>>84446783

did you read all these articles about fans being either distressed ir depressed after seeing "tame party" on the bluray?

Trauma. Some of them were traumatized, more or less, just by this one scene.I thought it was only me who's oversensitive but there's more people who got affected by it.

This is so nasty.
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>>84462574
Sounds to me like you and a lot of other people are giant pussies.
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>>84456606
Could be like a lazer tag thing.
>prey get dinged when "hunted"
>pred get dinged when "killed" by other preds or outrun by prey
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>>84462633
If only Disney could take it's name off Protozoo but still have the same production value.
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>>84462633

I don't feel insulted by truth, maybe there's like ten of "us" , a hundred, thousands, we'll deal with it differently, but I do feel sorry for next such people who will find it unexpected.

Disney simply blew it.
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>>84463390

> irredeemable cartoon world was created in the most family-friendly company.

So Ironic. Or is this tragic?
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>>84463655
Considering that they had concept to begin with after loads of brainstorming, it's a little of both.
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>>84462417
A little? I mean it's about predators and prey so what the hell. It makes sense.
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>>84464849
Haha holy shit
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>>84462574
What pussies said this pathetic shit.
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>>84462426
I think it worked. They showed that Judy had biases that she hadn't moved past, and the fox repellent was a Chekhov's gun that was building up to that moment. Judy carrying it with her was a symbol of her bias that she hadn't left behind.

The other part of it is that Nick was mad and needed some time to cool off. He probably felt bad about storming off from Judy, because he had in all likeliness already forgiven her by the time she showed up at his drinking spot under the bridge. He kept himself reserved to see if Judy was going to apologize, and also because he wanted to have a bit of fun messing with her using the pen. He probably had plenty of time to think about the things both of them had said and done and was just hoping they'd have a chance to start over.
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>>84464849
>the pope is a furry
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>>84407752
In the deleted "safe house" scene where Nick meets Judy's parents, Stu jumps to the conclusion that Nick is Judy's boyfriend and Judy never actually denies it.
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Daily reminder.
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>>84464892

https://twitter.com/search?q=zootopia%20taming%20party&src=typd

dont know, it's just people.
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>>84462203
You've really turned my life around. I understand these feelings now
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>scooping ice cream with an ungloved trunk is a health code violation
>running juice down a dirty rain pipe apparently isn't
Why is this allowed?
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So if Nick's been living off for years with the pawpsicle hustle.
Wouldn't he be a known con-artist by every ice cream joint in the city by then?
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>>84468299
>for years with the pawpsicle hustle.

oh, we dont know that.
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>>84466592
>vast majority of posts are cry baby girls
Why am i not surprised.
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>>84468519
Okay but honestly tell me it's not depressing

like everyone fucking acknowledges how broken the setting is
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>>84468358
Yeah, I kind of assume that he's been running a whole series of them. That's not totally headcanon though; when they're watching the traffic cam footage, he knows about using the maintenance tunnels for avoiding surveillance, which isn't something he needed for the Pawpsicle hustle.

>>84468547
>broken
But interesting, in a YA Fiction, "here is the obvious problem that no one has fixed yet because everyone is going along with it" sort of way.
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>>84468299
What was his crime exactly? Aside from selling sticks to construction sites.
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>>84468547
Yes it's depressing, that's why i want to see it. Movies like this have to have a resolution on a brighter side, i love seeing fucked situations begin to get better and im certain that film would have that ending.
They pushed to change the film because initially you'd see Zootopia and hate it, that feeling may have not been intentionally but from hate and distaste comes a want for change. You would watch the film and want their world to change for the better and im beyond certain that kind of change would be the climax. It would be an end all resolution but paving the way.
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>>84468587
>YA Fiction, "here is the obvious problem that no one has fixed yet because everyone is going along with it" sort of way.

a team of experienced old people worked on that script, it should never happen like that.

>>84468647

what you WANT is not what you NEED!
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>>84468669
>what you WANT is not what you NEED!
What do you mean in this context?
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>>84468299
Pretty sure the pawpsicle thing was just one of his scams
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>>84468547
Depressing isn't always a bad thing. You need some sadness to appreciate your happiness. Living in an emotional bubble limits your mental capabilities.
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>>84468757
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>>84468757
there's different levels of sad you know
"fundamentally broken" is not the ideal one
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>>84468669
>a team of experienced old people worked on that script
How many experienced writers do you think worked on The Hunger Games, or Divergent, or any of the other YA genre entries that I don't know about because they didn't end up on the side of a bus? Simple stories aren't necessarily badly written.

They changed protoZoot because they wanted people to like the world, not because the setting wasn't interesting.
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>>84468757

one or two emotional scene is fine, but they fucking went overboard with every single one in proto zoo. you make a montage of videos showing first 15 minutes of protozoo, and hate it right fom the start
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>>84468800

*you can make
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>>84468785
You know? It may be broken but compare that Nick to the one we got.
The one in Proto-Zoo was a trier, as Stu would put it, he lived in a shit situation, knew it was shit and kept on living and trying to go about his dream. He gets stepped on and keeps on going and going, that's commendable and i appreciate in Nick way more than "accept your position in life" failure we got in the film.

You seem to be on that faliure Nick side, to see the world in a shit spot and accept it instead of try and beat it. That sad part is they probably and accurately think that would have been majority opinion.
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>>84468838
I can't believe you called me a failure because I don't hold protozootopia in high regard. Your lack of perspective is astounding.
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>>84468892
Lol. Who the fuck called you a failure? Get that pussy ass victim complex the fuck out of here.
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>>84468838

it doesnt make him relatable, or even admirable, it makes him a punching bag, maybe girls like this kind of characters, but average kid would just cry seeing this guy stepped on over and over.
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>>84468927
You're saying because I'm not some theoretical rebel invested in the proto Zootopia setting and fighting through it I'm a give-upper. Your perspective is wrong because you're already invested and can't let it go - the right way to "beat" that setting and win out is to throw it in the garbage. You weasely loser.
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>>84468969
Aladdin seems likeable despite being a street rat urchin.
Wreck it Ralf is likeable despite being a percieved "villain".
Relatable or admirable or not, it gives them something to work and strive for and you as a viewer would be rooting for them to achieve it.
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>>84468781
Yeah man, Bob Ross was so great.

>>84468785
Fundamentally broken is a fantastic place to start if you intend to fix it. Overcoming seemingly unbeatable odds make up the plots of some of the greatest films ever created.

>>84468800
You could do it as long as you took the time to ease into it, I don't know how complete a picture we have of the beginning.

>>84468892
Not the person you responded to, but your irrational and emotional reactions would indicate you are somewhat emotionally stunted. Don't take it personally, it's just an observation.
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>>84469043
>Not the person you responded to, but your irrational and emotional reactions would indicate you are somewhat emotionally stunted. Don't take it personally, it's just an observation.
Don't take it personally, but you aren't skilled enough to properly assess the situation Mr. internet psychoanalyst.
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>>84469020
> these kind of themes and setting should never exist because it's hopeless
You have that mindset and get so frustrated as to resort to name calling. How adorable.
Be it not for you, fine. But to say it belongs in the trash is absolute ignorance, And tantruming like a child is pathetic.
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>>84469020
>if you can't find a solution immediately, you should just give up and throw it in the trash!
>but I'm not someone that gives up!

Wow. A+ on the doublethink.
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>>84469098
>name calling and outright dismissal of advice

I'm only trying to help you be a healthier person, Anon. The way you're responding to this is only further proving you need help of some kind.
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>>84469113
>>84469132
Nice to see you kids are still missing the mark. The mark being wanting to tell an at least somewhat even-handed story and make money. Giving up would be not ending up with the Zootopia we got. You guys really aren't nearly as good at this whole critical thinking thing as you believe.

Also - adding in some name calling is not a resort. It's an indulgence, you angst-wanking pea-brained emo teens.

>>84469188
There's no advice there. Please quote the "advice" if I somehow missed it.
>namecalling
Are you telling me that's non-fitting? You guys are kind of bad at this.
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>>84469241
What a baby you are.
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>>84469043
>You could do it as long as you took the time to ease into it

>introduction scene:

>(the museum history, where kids are shown the purpose of collars, you already want to go out of cinema)

>first scene:
>nick goes to ice cream store to get popsicle, you see him wear the collar
>second scene:
>gerbil jerks run over his tail triggering the collar
you groan and leave

do you get it now?
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>>84469279
Now THIS is resorting to namecalling. Nothing whatsoever but "lel ur bb".

You've been a great audience.
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>>84469316
>audience
No one cares to see you or your opinion at all. Stop propping yourself up like any gives a shit child.
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>>84469371
You guys sure can't stick to your gimmick very well.
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>>84469241
It is readily apparent you are mentally imbalanced to the point that rational responses and advice will only be met with rhetoric, denial, and childish name calling. I hope you can get the mental help you so clearly need, anti-proto Anon.
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>>84469293
Stop projecting your wussy feelings onto others.
I'd be hype as fuck to see how such a miserable person finds enough joy in their life to not neck themselves and to see how our clever fox thinks of a way out of his predicament.
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>>84469293
So. No one likes Ed, Edd, and Eddy, by that logic then? Seeing as how they get shit on by life time and time again, why would anyone continue to watch it week after week?
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>>84469397
Ah yes, the "pretend there's no point because there's no way you'd understand" etc. Classic. Surprised you managed to get those 2? posts of fake-advice out before giving up. Sprinkle on some holier-than-thou and you've got a grade-A shitpost.

Feel free to quote and point it out still, by the way. If you decide to drop pretense, which you won't.
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>>84469458
The discussion is about Zootopia not your faggot as complexes, either talk about it or fuck the hell off.
>It shouldn't exist!
Is no discussion.
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>>84469450
Ah, so here we have it.

The difference is the fundamental design of the world was not to deliberately screw them on a physical and psychological level, and the VERY DIFFERENT tones of the setting, and the serialized nonserious faux-continuity with not much of an aim in storytelling.

Cmon, son. THINK a little.

>>84469488
I am talking about it. You two turned the disussion to be about me and are still being defensive about me tearing you down. You can stop any time son.
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>>84469450

you're bringing an old wacky cartoon with cartoon rules, 10 minutes and you forget what you just saw.

we're talking about serious movie that was *almost* made, however it'd have like very narrowed audience.

>>84469436

yes, you.
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>>84469513
What true difference is there? You watch three kids try to scam others, usually hated by the others as they're trying to get a piece out of the world, like proto nick, Or misadventures that lead to their own downfall.
Eitherway, we have protgonists that get fucked over in their worlds, you'd continue to watch trying and hoping that they succeed. That same feeling is what you'd feel for the scam artist fox i Zootopia, despite doing unsavory things you'd want to see him succeed because of how the rest of the world puts him down.
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>>84469602
>we're talking about serious movie that was *almost* made
We're talking about a kids movie. Don't forget that.
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>>84469608
>What true difference is there?
Probably all those I just listed which you're glossing over, when they are in fact HUGE.

I hate to be like the guy earlier who said this, but your inability to understand the difference between the implications of the collars and tone of proto vs. EEnE might actually mean you're emotionally stunted. Just stop and think about how a world like that would function. Spoilers - it wouldn't.
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>>84469685
Screw them? You're talking about a group of animals that fucking tore apart prey while they were alive to eat them. You act as if they're a completely innocent group of animals that didn't do anything and were collared just because.
Yes, it is fucked up, and it's very clearly a means to a fucking end. At the point in the movie we watch, it appears the collars have run their course and it's about time they've come off, but very clearly there is a good fucking reason they were there to begin with, you're woefully ignorant of the fact that predators kill and eat the very same animals they now live side by side with. THAT is the fucking rub of the collars.
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>>84469850


ahem!

>>84415060
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>>84469850
>"No one has eaten anyone for thousands of years, but JUST TO BE SAFE we have the tame collar."

This was an actual line from the old storyboard.
Really makes you think.
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>>84469952
We don't know the plot of the climax of that film. If the release we got was any indication, thevillain used fear tactics to control the city.
Let's say Nick's wild times showed that uncollared mammals were fine and won't attack others. Let's say the villain knew of this and tries to take care of it framing a certain fox. Let's say this very same villain is well aware that predators are fine but keep them collared, subjugate them to lesser positions in life using fear tactics and insures her type of people remain with absolute power.
To think that the writers would have such a fallable hole in their own plot is insulting to them imo.
We don't have the full painted picture and yet you judge it so harshley from just sketched lines. We can't know how it would have turned out but i'm certain they's have a satsifactory climax.
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>>84470223

it was in the Musem, does that implies the villain was immortal, a supernatural being, what did he gained from keeping preds away from the city?
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>>84470323

*museum
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>>84470323
My art book says the climax was in the animalia stadium originally, during a huge event that most the city would be watching and well aware of. Let's also a certain villain spelled out everything her plan entailed and it got heard by everyone in the city? How do you think Zootopia would react?
And let's use your very same pic as an example, the villain on the bottom left. The pig.
This original story seems to take after Animal Farm quite a bit, "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others" or something? Said pig would help enforce that vision would it not? Everyone lives in Zootopia, but preys are greater then preds. That was the villains ideal i would think.
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>>84470223
You're really blinded by the fact that they executed the collar world so poorly, I'm not even one of the guys desperately defending Protozoo but it doesn't take half a brain to know that the world's broken in the most illogical manner yet.

You don't need to watch the entire thing to know the full painting. The storyboards and deleted scenes already sheds a lot of light on the setting and that setting doesn't add up at all.
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>>84470223

>To think that the writers would have such a fallable hole in their own plot is insulting to them imo.

i.. just... i..
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>>84470503
You what?
These are the same people who made the Zootopia release we have now and it's still great. Please do explain
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>>84470635

these people had no idea what to do with the world they were going to create, first screening was about jack savage, the bunny, spy, then it was about jack savage in the city, audience wasnt interested in the character, but they admired a city of animals for animals.

THEN these writers came up with an idea to make something "deep", however, it was TOO DEEP for them, they dug themselves a hole, a very deep hole, (probably) Byron decided the fox will be the protagonist, and whoever came up with tame collars showing blatant biases just tossed them in.
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>>84470635
Criticizing somebody for doing something wrong and praising them when they finally did something right aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>84470635

without Rich Moore, we wouldn't have as endearing movie, how would it look?

like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCYCBWYtls

without Johnston we wouldnt have DMV scene, or cringy-funny Naturalist scene, Judy's reluctant but loving parents was his idea too.

Yes, original writers fucked up big time, i dont know who exactly. Maybe i shouldnt care, but i do know that direction was awful.
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>>84472497
They hit all my soft spots and I'm not even a furry.

It's not furry if YOU don't want to fug the bunny, right?
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>>84472681

just snuggle the bunny.
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movie was pretty average and pushes an agenda really hard

animation was really good the animals are cute too but what the fuck is up with it being ONLY mammals? humor was kind of eh. not too much to talk about really
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>>84473164
I remember hearing they intentionally made no reference to non-mammals one way or the other in case they wanted to write them in for a sequel or spinoff media.
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>>84473164

i like mammals only, fur is cuddly, birds and reptiles would look alien in zootopia.
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>>84468781

Wasn't there some rumor his wife died before that episode or something?
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>>84472453
>>84472497
>>84472721
source?
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>>84472076
I thought that was gonna be the 'comic' of old Judy sitting over Nick's grave

was pleasantly surprised instead
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>>84474908
>'comic'
??????
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>>84474941
Well I guess its officially called a (web) comic but I think a more appropriate name is torture
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>>84475027
It's not a webcomic either. It's just a one series of panels.
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>>84475049
that's why I said 'comic' cos I knew someone would moan if I literally called it a comic
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>>84475206
...but it is a comic. I don't understand.
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I lub you long time Zootopia.
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>>84475236
At this point I honestly couldn't care less everyone knows what I meant
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>>84468299
It was just one of many. He has done other scams. Such as that skunk butt rug.
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>>84475602
I really don't though but I guess it doesn't matter.
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>>84465927
they had only now each other for like 2 days :Y
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>>84468145
It wasn't, it was a hustle and people didn't know where the pawpsicles came from.
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>>84463867
Omg. Disney presents a Don Bluth production...Zootopia. Wow that pic is cool.
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>>84476215
>Reminder
This is really sad.
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>>84476154
Brown chicken brown cow.
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>>84476154
They're both so cute when she's out-smugging him.

Also this page is fantastic and I hope there is more.
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>>84476813
Bluth art is such garbage.
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>>84476154
She cant prove any of that shit.
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nya
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>>84476154
Freezing kills germs tho.
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>>84472497
Does it count as exchanging fluids if their snot mixes?
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>>84468145
It isn't dirty. It gets cleaned every time it rains.
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>>84447999
>her own father was unable to distinctly identify her.

I seriously wouldn't blame him. He's probably fathered a continent by now.
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>>84479817
Why hasn't the bunny society suffered a horrific Malthusian collapse? 300 children from ONE couple is hilariously beyond population replacement level even if they were dying left and right, which they aren't.
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>>84405543
I wonder if Nick is deathly Allergic to Carrots.
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>>84479952
In the original Zootopia treatment, it sounds like that's where things were heading. Everyone was going to drown in an adorable fluffy apocalypse of overpopulating bunnies.

In modern Zootopia I'm guessing that bunnies don't breed beyond what they can afford to have. They probably use a lot of birth control, especially poorer ones. Judy comes from a middle class family who owns a farm and they seem to be well off.



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