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Zootopia has made over a billion dollars worldwide. When should we expect a sequel announcement?
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I can't wait until the sequel when all the shipperfags get fucking destroyed when nick and judy remain friends. Don't even try to kid yourselves, you know it's not going to happen.
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There we go. Right there. Here we are. I am happy.
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>>83508227
People ship them romantically. I'm one of them, but I'm not so foolish to think they'll have them together in the sequel.
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it's really hasn't "made" 1 billion, in the end they will pocket less than half of this.
I wish people revealed actual seat data, the price of tickets is skyrocketing since the early 00's.
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>>83508227
No, they already had it in mind, people would riot if they didn't go through with it.
https://youtu.be/l-pWwVM7-jc
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>>83508114
It's funny; before no-one was talking about sequels, but after they decided to make Frozen 2, there started to be a lot of serious sequel announcements, and now a serious theatrical sequel seems to get taken as a given :D
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So, if Zootopia could do it, what's the excuse for BvS?
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>>83508297
>outgrossed BvS
>outgrossed X-men Apocalypse

I wonder how much those films "made".
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>mfw
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>>83508407
we might never know, every movie has different types of hollywood accounting to deal with
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>>83508407
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>>83508369
It didn't pander to kids and retards
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>>83508297
Same goes for every movie. And how many movies in past 20 years can say that they got over a billion? WITHOUT being a sequel, part of a franchise or an adaptation? Very few.
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>>83508547
Sure it did, just kids with moms named Martha.
Don't know anyone but retards that have figured out what Lex's motives or plan was.
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>>83508547
How is that butthole DC friend, still sore?
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not bad for a B Disney movie of the year

i think they should be making more movie like this one.
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>>83508114
Nick is one rich Fox!
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>>83508332
> people would riot if they didn't go through with it.
You mean a bunch of faggots would shitpost about about it? Face it, hardly anyone in the world gives a shit about their relationship.
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>>83508685
[spoilers]Should be able to pay off what he owes in taxes[/spoilers]
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>>83508555
Holy shit. Titanic was almost 20 years ago.
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do you think will get a commemorative drawing of Nick, Scrooge McDucking into coins? Nick as Dr. Evil? An even more creative drawing? Nick and Judy at Zootopia predator pride cause of the month?
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So how soon until they announce the sequel and the spin-off TV series?

Also is it weird that I have literally never seen any kid in my area even mention this movie? I don't even think I've ever seen so much as a poster in terms of promotional material for this movie so I am really starting to wonder if the entire audience is just made up of furries and kids have never really resonated with the movie
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>>83508407
need to wait for share holders meeting, they usually detail the real profits from the gross money.
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>>83508821
China really liked the film. They also are crazy over Finnick so expect a bigger role in the sequel
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>>83508821

there was hardly any marketing for the movie, it did great only thanks to the word of mouth

they had no faith in it, this they gave it cheapiest possible merchandise, that's why you dont see kids with zootopia toys or talking about it
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Cool, I really enjoyed the movie. Well deserved box office.
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>>83508555
that billion just prove the ticket price gets higher every year. Even when you take inflation into account, there's still the raw price that still nearly tripled for those movies.
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>>83508907

no, they just wanted pet foxes.

poor things.
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>>83508821
>So how soon until they announce the sequel and the spin-off TV series?

couple of years. Frozen 2 still has no official release date. Disney are no Dreamworks when it comes to sequels.
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>>83508951
will the fad be over by then? Can't they beast the movie out. They rewrote the entire film less than a year before they released it
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>>83508227
It's obvious ot the beginning of zootopia 2 they are just gonna be really good friends. By the end of the movie it's gonna be relationship confirmed.
The fags who want a relationship get it, and the fags who say it's platonic will get eased into it being romanic. Win-win everyone's happy. They did the same thing in despicable me 2
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>>83509018
>>83508951

a short before moana, just before christmas season , new toys, this would make me satisfied for a year or half , then comic book.
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>>83508913
>>83508913
Same exact story as Frozen. They thought it would barely scrape by. No merchandise, no marketing.
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>>83509037
>Zootopia 2 opens with a fake wedding and closes with a real one
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>>83508227
Friends nothing, I want obligatory Token One Note Flat Character love interests of their respective species and make both Judy and Nick go retarded Ga Ga in love over the unimpressive Token Love Interests.

That would hurt Zootopia's shitty fanbase. It may even shut the fuck up all these faggots who keep spamming this movie here.
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>>83509136
Such beautiful pottery. I unironically love the idea of that, to be honest.
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>>83509129

except it had an earworm of a song..
now im sick of elsa plastered everywhere, from cups , thrugh dildos to toilet seats.
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>>83508269
Does that mean we have an excuse to over spam Zootopia until mods decide to ban Zootopia threads? If so let the SPAM COMMENCE!

It's not like the stupid mods can truly stop us!
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>>83509129
>>83508913
The hell is wrong with Disney, do they think that all their movies will flop? None of their "new renaissance" movies got marketed that much
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>>83509136
I was thinking the exact same thing. Its a stake out. And we know its fake when we see Finnick as the ring bearer
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This is the movie that should have enjoyed the commercial success and critical accolades, not Pootopia
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>>83508951
F2 has a 2018 slot if I'm not mistaken. Probably getting the Nov/Dec slot if it pushes through.
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>>83509198
Clawhauser as best man.
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>>83509208
lel people actually like chicken manlet?
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>>83509072
Hey guys! We know Moana is probably not going to be great so we put a Zootopia clip in the beginning to get you to go
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>>83509156
>shitty fanbase.

dont you know it, we're already split into zoodystopia fans/haters.
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>>83509193
The /co/ threads are a formality. Real Zootopia Generals are on /trash/. I migrated a month ago.
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>Moana releases later this year

>zero marketing

DISNEY STOP IT
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>>83509224
Its one way to get a criminal in a place surrounded by cops, who would be Judy and Nick's friends
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>>83509238
>>83509255

i dont like women with big noses.
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>>83509238
Zootopia and Frozen are going to be jousting for "short space" from now on. Calling it now.

>Zootopia-Frozen Crossover Shorts
Holy shit.
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>>83509250
>he fell for the /trash/ meme
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>>83509261
>Bogo and mr Bog share the table during the wedding
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>>83509250
>if you don't jerk off shitty artists and roleplay then you're not the real deal
Fucking stay there then
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>>83509267
FEEL THE ETHNIC
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>>83509250
>/trash/
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>>83509136
what do you do after taking on racism in Zootopia? What story is there to tell? They could do one more Nick and Judy movie and then make it into an series that follows different mammals throughout the city
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>>83509224
>Everyone in the ZPD is in on the stake out / wedding job except for Clawhauser
>Nick and Judy make arrest after luring out criminal
>Clawhauser goes "What?!? You're not actually- Noooooo!"
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>>83509267
>that rooster

if it talks I'm leaving the theatre
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>>83508555
You could consider the Disney animated canon a franchise, it's just as good for brand recognition
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>>83509267
The characters look ugly. If an animated film has an ugly art style? Fuck it, not watching it.
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>>83509255
When did they started marketing for Zootopia anyway? All I can remember is the trailer up around November or something.
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>>83509326
They could explore xenophobia. Reptiles and avian cities exist in this world - maybe a foreigner gets framed and Judy and Nick have to help him.
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>>83509344
>>83509355
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>>83509255
HOLY SHIT you're right. 6 months to go, no trailer yet.

Then again, it might be getting the same development hell problem as Frozen. That was rendering like, a month before release right?

In contrast, I remember BH6 trailers pretty early.

Let's see:

>BH6 release date: November 7

>BH6 trailer 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3biFxZIJOQ
>July 15

...fine.

But the teaser trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vco0SpSz17g did come out in late May
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>>83509379
Love this guy though.
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>>83509328
>>83509136


No we reveal that Judy is not getting married to Nick. Its some other criminal. Then we see Nick is the priest
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>>83509390
This suggests there is something very wrong how their teams are managed and is probably a sign of systematic failures they can't be bothered to fix because talented teams manage to pull through somehow.
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Congratulations, furfags. I mean it too.

Sincerly, someone who thought the film was okay.
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>Wreck it Ralph, Zootopia and Tangled all turn out excellent

>Big Hero 6 is mediocre shit

i-its not fair
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>>83509326
Interracial marriage

living among them is one thing
mixing with them?
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>>83509505
At least it wasn't >>83509208 bad
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>>83509350
princesses sure. but Zootopia/BH6/WiR? Nah.
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>>83509505

Why do you hate BH6? I absolutely loved it compared to Wreck-It Ralph and Tangled.
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>>83509533

Byron directed CL, and Brother Bear ,and worked on Bolt.
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>the sequel must be about x political issue
No. What's wrong with a nice Nick and Judy adventure that explores their relationship?
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>>83509505
BH6 is waifu central though.

Someone post Cass.
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>>83508227
This
Platonic is best and realistic. A canon relationship won't do anything other than pandering to tumblr.
t. someone who used to ship the fox and the bunn
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>>83509566
Lame script, middling plot. Beautiful setting though and some touching moments, but it was generally disappointing.

Can I emphasize again on how bad the script was? One of the highlights of these newer Disney films are their scripts, but BH6 seemed like it was written by a nine year old.
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One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others.
By the time I finish my song?
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>>83509566
I recently rewatched it and it felt like the movie was on Autopilot taking you from plot point to plot point without any real feel. They built a wonderful world and filled it with flat uninteresting characters and a pants-on-head stupid villain.

It was still good, but it wasn't up to par with the Disney movies around it. I didn't even think it was as good as Frozen, in all honesty.
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>>83509608
1 good film and the rest trash, I see it.
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>>83509326
Nick and Judy destroying a Bloomberg stand-in
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>>83509567
>Byron directed CL
Wasn't it Mark Dindal?
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>>83509647
Do you want Moore to disappear?
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>>83509566
It's a murder mystery with two suspects, and one is too obviously evil to be the culprit.

It's for kids and all, but the plot is so barebones and simplistic that it's a snore. The characters are all pretty forgettable and uncompelling, save for maybe Hot Aunt.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4tLGfynNQk
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fandoms driven by metascore and sales are a sure giveaway of shills orchestrating it from the inside.
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>>83509608
Toy Story 3 was not that fucking good.

I hate review culture.
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>>83509714
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>>83509602
Manginas and simps believe in men and women being friends. Real men know that women are only there to be fucked.
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>>83509758
Incredible post
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>>83509567
nobody remembers chicken little

I don´t remember Brother Bear, except that it had a nice setting

Bolt was more like "fuck you I liked it" kind of thing, more than any of their modern princess movies at least.
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>>83509673
I just want to see that asshole taken down a notch, even if it's fiction.
Bloomberg got nothing on Moore and Howard
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>>83509783
Tangled blows Bolt out of the fucking water.
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>>83509604
Needed to integrate the team more into the story.
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>>83508114
>told some people I bought the Judy and Nick Disney Infinity figures
>they bug me every single day to hotglue them

why
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>>83509806
Then stop browsing /trash/
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>>83508496
>>83508269
>foreign is 66% of sales

what the fuck? why do chinks and euros eat this shit up?
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>>83509739

agreed.

fucking Lotso man.
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>>83509830
But it's not people from there that tell me that
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>>83509805
The team is composed of uninteresting, weak, and shitty characters. Token Black Dude Who Behaves White, lame skinny retard, unattractive chick, and generic Girl Power Twat.

These protagonists suck. Reminds me of how in HTTYD the writers refused to focus on Hiccup's peers because they sucked.
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>sequel happens but Byron is replaced by Phil Lord and Chris Miller

How would you respond?
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>>83509835
have you ever seen a Chinese film? They are not Hollywood. The only thing America will always do better that the rest of the world is movies
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>>83509880
>The only thing America will always do better that the rest of the world is everything

Fixed that for ya, chump.
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>>83509911
God bless
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>>83509873

Byron created the world and Nick Wilde.
Rich Moore added the atmosphere.

What would they need these new two for?
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>>83508407

family films always made money, even if they are mediocre like Zootopia
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>>83509911
>>83509929
*claps*
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>>83508227
> Spin-off potential also means having to address lingering plot points from the first film. Surprisingly, Howard and Moore say one of their top queries from fans is in regards to the relationship between protagonists Judy and Nick, and whether it’s amorous or platonic. “We will have to take on [the question], what is Nick and Judy’s relationship like?” opines Moore. “And somebody’s going to be disappointed. It will either be romantic, or it will stay a friendship, and those who ship [them] are going to go crazy, and those who just want them to be friends will say, ‘Why did you make it a romance?’ So we need to gird ourselves for that.”
Even the way they formulate this makes it obvious they're going to choose the shippers.
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>>83509932
To prevent a recurrence of the original version of Zootopia which nearly doomed the first film. Byron cannot be trusted not to insert his fantasies of sub Nick being collared into the next movie forcing a last minute rewrite.
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>>83509835
20% of Frozen's gross was pure Japan.
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>>83509932
For money. Disney execs might figure creating a toyetic, zany comedy-centric sequel instead of a timeless movie about friendship that touches on social issue would be better for their bottom line
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>reminder that this is Finnick's voice actor

You are now imagining Finnik in this scene.
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>>83509935
Is Alice2 a family film?
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>>83509989

you got a point there!
>>83510020

and your point is valid too.
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>>83510027
Always expected him not to press it- was way too obvious of a twist
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>>83508114
Good, hopefully we get more city and a long explanation of how the city infrastructure works.
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>>83509873
Well, they've done well with animation before, Cloudy and the Lego Movie are both enjoyable. They also do well with the buddy-cop routine in the Jump Street movies and Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

Doing Zootopia 2 would be heaven for them. But I guess it wouldn't be the same without Byron and Moore.
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>>83509984
Man, I can only imagine what JenLee and ChrisBuck are dealing with the "make Elsa gay" shit.
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>>83510027
>>83510027

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdADidJDtsk

Okay, ONE hug.
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LOOK AT HIM, LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH!
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>>83510105
Maybe he was talking about BvS?
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>>83510088
This is great and I'm not even a Finnickfag.
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>>83510036

No, is aimed at tweens.

It need to be dumbed down, like zootopia!
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>OOOOONE BIIILLION DOLLLAREEEDOOOOOOOS
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>>83510122
Nope, anon was definitely talked about Zootopia, I was in that thread when it happened.
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>>83509835
Are you honestly surprised? USA has ~400 mil people out of 7 billion in the entire world. A single country having 33% of sales but only 6% of potential viewers is outstanding.

China, Japan, Europe and Latin America only making 66% of sales is pathetic.
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>>83510054

It doesn't work, is a cartoon, nothing makes sense.

A lion that looks strong as fuck despite not eating meat, dumb.
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>>83510020
That just sounds fucking tragic, seeing your masterpiece fall into others' hands.
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>>83510154
Maybe they all eat holographic meatloaf?
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>>83510154

using force in SW wars is dumb too
spaceships dont make noises in space

this is too dumb to be enjoyable!
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>>83510154
They obviously found an alternative to get their protein intake.
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>>83510154
i still want a magical movie explanation of infrastructure.
They can do, like show me where things go and from where they come from, it doesn't have to make sense, i still wanna watch the illogical explanation
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>>83510127

you know, these lines could happen in the movie...

goddamit, we could have more finnick screentime!
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Glad to see I was here when we finally hit the billion meme.
Goodnight, thread.
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Money, money, money, moooney...MOOOO-NAY!
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Dollar bills y'all!
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>>83510088
>I'm 95 percent ears
kek
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>>83508273
underrated
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>>83510272

>Banshopia
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>>83510272
>Poor little grey rabbit
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>it's a slice of life episode about Bellwether in prison

What happens? How many preds does she shank?
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>>83508269
I had my doubts because of initial shitty marketing, but I'm glad it got to 1b. It's the recent "big name" animated movie that deserves it
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>>83510375
Judy gets thrown into Jail undercover and her cellmate is Bellwether
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>>83510397
>undercover
>put in with the most likely person to recognize her and blow her cover
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>>83508114
source of this image please
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>>83510436
if she goes along, she gets a reduced sentence. Doesn't mean she can't fuck with her
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>>83508114

Despite Zootopia's box office success, Disney is on track to discard it like they do all their "B" movies. Most Disney stores have already removed their Zootopia section (expanding StarWars).

it's over, you will never have official pawpsicles.
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>>83510397
Judy gets mob protection in jail anyway.
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>>83510461
>she gets a reduced sentence
>implying she isn't getting the death penalty
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>>83510517
she did literally nothing wrong
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>>83510517
>death penalty
No one was killed though
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>>83510477

The furries won't let them forget.

It'll be like nothing they've ever seen...be...fur...
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>>83509363
They had a teaser a year or more before the movie was released. It's the one where Jason Bateman narrates it. I'm also wondering why there isn't one for Moana.
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>>83510477
What are Disney B Movies, what are their A Movies?
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>>83510477
>Zootopia
>Moana
>Civil War
>DrStrange
>StarWarsRogueOne

Just how much money is Disney going to make this year?
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>>83509505
This. My god did the third part kind of fell apart, which is a shame because the brother aspect started out real strong
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>>83510587
From what I understand, the A movie is the one that comes out in November/December. The B movie comes out somewhere else, but not during summer.
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>>83508114
>>83508269
>movie made $1 bil. with limited marketing and cautious expectations from the studio
Say hello to the new Lion King, boys!
https://youtu.be/giK3tGg1Vss?t=2s
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>>83510608
Moana, Rogue One and Strange are going to fail or underperform, but with Civil War and Zoo alone they have about as much as the GDP of the Faroe Islands or Djibouti
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ONE

BILLION

DOLLERY

DOOS
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>>83510608
Enough money to create some great tv shows and cancel them after the first season.
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>>83510608
Just enough to make up for The Good Dinosaur.
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>>83508114
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>>83510709
Nah, money to make another thempark. I would guess MCU or something perhaps, keep it separate from the other stuff sort of.
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>>83510397
>Judy gets met as she steps out of the shower by Bellwether with a mop handle and several cellmates
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>>83510088
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>>83510694
Strange is probably cautious. I hope they're just expecting it to pull Ant Man levels. 500 mil should be fine for that.

Moana...depends mostly on the songs I think.

Rogue One...it's Star Wars. It can't fail, especially with the new batch of casual "fans" TFA spawned. They're going to gobble it up like mindless turkeys.

I totally forgot to add Finding Dory to that list.
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>>83509567
>>83509783
>>83509649
Chicken Little was Mark Dindal. Brother Bear was Aaron Blaise.

Byron did direct Bolt, but I think Bolt had a little controversy behind it since it was initially Chris Sanders' project but he was replaced. Basically Byron and another guy (Chris Williams, BH6) were just handed the project after the Chris Sanders and John Lasseter fiasco.
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>>83510712
Add Alice2 to that pile.

>>83510741
I'm imagining the final scene. Car opens, instead of Flash, it's Batfleck. "MARTHA-" cut to concert.
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>>83509935
Here, DC friends. This will help you.
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>>83510869
>Baaaaaats don't just fly, they fall down and stay down!
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So what would you guys like to see from the sequel?

I want to see another detective story concerning a reptile only city called Scale City.

fuck it, I just want reptiles in general
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>>83508114
Three Comma Club and art I've not seen before, what a day. Couldn't be happier for the team that worked on it, they deserve it.
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>>83510741
Who is that man?
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>>83508547
Yeah, it should've pandered to absolutely nobody, like BvS.
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Let's hope Disney revives Zootopia like they did Lilo and Stitch. Lilo and Stitch was also a Disney "B" movie, and Disney literally pulled the merch from Disney Stores stores during the height of Lilo and Stitch's popularity. Realizing their mistake, Disney double-downed on Lilo and Stitch advertising and merchandise after the fact, but there was a time when you literally could not buy any merchandise while the movie was in theaters.
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Are we getting Zootopia-Land now?

Disney should just genetically engineer the citizens of Zootopia.
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>>83510955
frankly, they should stick to making B movies because they're fucking amazing.
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>>83510962
Na, just do Judy and Nick over and over again.
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>>83510818

>Rogue One...it's Star Wars. It can't fail, especially with the new batch of casual "fans" TFA spawned. They're going to gobble it up like mindless turkeys.

But it's not having reshoots like crazy because suits are not liking the film and demanding changes?
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Hey, /co/. Wanna hear a joke?
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>>83511010
Billioff?
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>>83511010
well, joke is not a big deal after all
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>>83511010
I failed my biology test today. They asked, "What is commonly found in cells?"
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>>83510962
>Just the characters
We need to build an exact replica of Zootopia with the characters, history and all. Let's make Zootopia great again.
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>>83509989
I don't get this kind of hate for the original. Sure it's heavy-handed but it was something interesting, but just not something Disney. I also don't see the perviness you are insinuating.

The big reason it was rewritten was not because of this sub fantasy you are saying, but because one of the movie's goals is drawing you to the world in a positive way, and having a heavy script goes against this goal. After watching the Zootopia docu, I actually found it legit interesting to see Disney do something depressing again (as depressing as they can push).
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>>83511010
Spill it.
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>>83511065
Apparently "black people" wasn't the correct answer.
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>>83511065
Foxes.
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>>83509267
Whats Roadhog doing in a Disney film?
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>>83511075

Fund that shit. Zootopia Projects, for all.
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>>83511010
>>83511065
>>83511097
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>>83511097
0/10 apply yourself
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>>83508114
So, who's going to go watch it again in the theaters. Cuz I'm going to watch it again tommorow.
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>>83511097
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>>83511097
>not an animal pun
You tried
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>>83511141
Next weekend lad. One last time
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>>83510154
They managed to make that big ass refrigerator. No doubt they managed to make something for their protein needs.
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>>83511141
It stopped showing a few months ago in my country ;_;
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>>83510020
>Gee, this intelligent, well-written film we all thought was risky ended up in the one-billion club! Guess we should completely change everything that worked for it so that the next movie will be successful!

Would they really be stupid enough to do this?
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>>83510694
>Strange to underperform
I doubt it. I'm not a big cape fan but I can admit that Marvel knows how to hype their movies, even the ones that were literally whos decades ago. Plus it's Cumberbatch.
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>>83511226
Never doubt Hollywood
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>>83511097
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>>83511141

seen it 5 times, not interested anymore, but im Angry at the Birds for dethroning it from being the "biggest opener of the year" in my country.

It's Minions all over again.
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>>83510635
Frozen would be a B movie if that were the case.

I think a better description would be A movie = Disney Princess material or what they, but not necessarily the general public, will consider a classic, and B movie = everything else.
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>>83510955
Good point. I really did like Lilo and Stitch. It was sad without really going overboard.

>You can leave if you want. I'll remember you though. I remember everyone that leaves.
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>>83510273

"Ya'll give you a "toot-toot".
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>>83511097
I laughed you mad man
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>>83509505
it literally only existed to be franchise fodder. it'll turn into the new cars soon enough.
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>>83511422

thanks for reminder, dammit.
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>>83511380
That thumbnail always looks like the bat is shoved through his skull.
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What's your fursona
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>>83510608
dont forget about jungle book, thats at 877k
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>>83511354
No, that other anon is right. Princess movies are always their A movies. That November release is for A movies (holidays will generate them money, and awards ceremonies will generate them fame). Frozen was their slot for that year already, but it went through a couple of rewrites, and they just had to finish it and release it to get it over with to suffer fewer loss in budget. That movie was a dud until the winter breaks kicked in, snow storms kicked in (record-breaking snow storms, if I recall), and the song was replayed a lot. That movie's success was a freak of nature and totally not normal.
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>>83511503
Judy's husband, whatever that may be
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>>83511503
You can be a fan of the movie without those things
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>>83511478

"I'ma grown mammal - Finnick, fox"
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>>83510955
Well, then they learned nothing because they are doing the same shit again. Pulling merch, underadvertising, etc.

They got themselves the fourth biggest grossing animated movie in history and they stubbornly stick to their shitty five years old plans for it instead of dynamically adapting and fully taking advantage of unexpected developments.
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>>83511507
It's kinda crazy how much Jungle Book earned, and how it and Zootopia managed to be fine together.

>>83511003
I think it was that the script just wasn't done when they filmed the movie.
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>>83511541
Yes but can you be an ADVANCED fan without those things?
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>>83511619
Yes. There is always a choice, anon.
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>>83511583

in this case i understand them, the creators tried to make a grim story about prejudices, full of dark humour and depressing moments.

Rewrite saved this movie, and their asses. Now Zootopia is a much more pleasant movie, and its world is so big it could have stories about side characters, it's up to Disney if they want to milk this fresh, big juicy cashcow or not.

Of course i hope for it.
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>>83511509
>That movie's success was a freak of nature and totally not normal.
There was a time when i assumed its popularity came from the whole "gurll powah" that's so prevalent with the SoCal generation nowadays, but then Brave was a complete failure and i became officially baffled about Frozen's massive success.
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>>83508369
>>83510887
Family movies > Capeshit movies
Also having being distributed by a company with the heaviest marketing presence in American culture might've had a hand in it.
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>>83508114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeTgx_pj6m8
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>>83510154
Why do you write like Donald Trump tweets, aka like a retard?
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>>83511704
>Avengers
>Avengers 2
>Civil War
>Iron Man 3
>GotG

...don't go there. I love family-friendly Disney animated movies...but don't go there.
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I WANT TO LIVE IN TUNDRATOWN
WORK AT SAHARA SQUARE, DRIVE ON SAVANNAH CENTRAL, SHOP AT DOWNTOWN AND THROW MY TRASH ON RAINFOREST SHIT
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>>83511795

eh, why not.


post dance!
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>>83511837
>Sequels
agreed. Don't go there...just...don't...please?
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>>83511820
What's wrong with that? Too much negativity in these threads. Won't happen when I become a janitor. Very sad!
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>>83511871
Reminder that the original question was: How did it gross that much more money than BvS?

Second reminder that BvS itself is a sequel to Man of Steel.

Just so you're reminder of where the goalposts were before you started moving them.
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>>83511983
Judy got them birthing hips.
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>>83511141
Probably tomorrow. It's in the theaters with the $4 ticket prices.
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Finding Dory will have such hard time topping Zootopia

...at least it has a fish in kettle!
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>>83512001
>goalposts

I've only made 2 post regarding this discussion, mobile poster. Why don't you continue that discussion with that other anon perhaps, okay?
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What's getting lost in all the worldwide gross hoopla is that it also passed Spider-Man 3 and Hunger Games Mockingjay Part 1 to get up to 38th place domestic.
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>>83512053
Everybody seems to forget this one
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>>83512108
Reminder that two posts are enough to move goalposts, one if we're talking American Football goalposts.
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>>83512131

ohshi.... you're right. i was hoping for that too.

well, those are last breaths of the movie, now the lil' bunny can rest.

She will return, right?
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>>83512190
Did Judy put on some weight?
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>>83512190
Gay.
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>>83511837
>He thinks MCU isn't manufactured for family draw.
laughing sea wenches.webm
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>>83512216
On domestic chart, probably. $5 million more is doubtful with a home video release imminent. Still got spots to climb on the worldwide chart, with 25th place worldwide likely next week to pass The Dark Knight. They got that Turkey money coming in.
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>>83508114
The toy sales of cars are still better. Cars 3+4 confirmed. Also Disney tries to get something from that minions money and releases the ToyStory spin of with these green aliens.
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>>83512244
I wasn't the one who artificially drew a line between "family" and "capeshit" movies.
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>>83512292

I'm still waiting for my BOATS movie, Disney!

i need some company in my bathub
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>>83512190
of course there was gonna be some fucking autist that would do this.

god i fucking hate harry potter., its fucking over, its death.
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>>83511693
I would like to travel to the paralel universe where this movie is real. I think it would still be good but not half as successful.
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>>83512292
>these guys need to appear in the next minions movie
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>>83512374
I actually enjoyed HP stuff when I was a kid tbqh. Movies were blatant cashgrabs though
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>>83512287
Makes me think how much more this movie would of got if Disney has inserted some sing along feel good songs into it like Frozen. Not that I would have wanted it but damn if Disney didn't get paid for the amount of time I heard "Let it go" or the other songs from that abomination.
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>>83512244
Marvel movies are pretty much made to be inoffensive as possible. Reasons why we have the street level heroes get Netflix shows. Wouldn't want The Devil of Hell's Kitchen or Punisher to taint the Disney Infinity amiibo market.
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>>83512385

such movies are needed in perfect universes, where there's no illnesses, violence, injustice.

not here.
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>>83512427

Try Everything has 104 million views on youtube so it's at least somewhat popular.
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>>83512454
Infinity is dead.
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>>83512190
Not gonna lie, that sorting is good.
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>>83512422
I'd argue that the first 2 movies were great family films and genuine quality.
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>>83512337
yeah he was fool to think that the MCU wasn't heavily produced with families in mind.
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>>83512599
What I don't know is what the fuck WB was thinking with teh DCEU.
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>>83512597
Yeah, should have stuck with Chris Columbus. Even Alfonso Cuaron did an okay job. The movies got really generic when David Yates took the reigns.
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>>83512559
>Nick not slytherin
>cunning, resourcefulness, and ambition
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>>83512599
Thats why they changed Ultron. Didn't want to scare the kids.
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>>83512713
There was another HP/Zoot pic floating out there, which looked all the more appropriate. Too bad I didn't save it.
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>>83512597
Is it fair to say the entire series, movies and books, died at Order
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>>83512713
>>83512774
Never mind, found it.
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>>83512824
Jack Savage is a cutie
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>>83512824
>Judy in a skirt
Yes
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>>83512824
>Nick in Slytherin
>Finnick in fucking Hufflepuff

0/10
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>>83512713
>>83512774
>>83512824

Nah Slyth is all about personal glory. I hate to sort villains as Slyth, but that is what Bellwether is.

What is Nick's ambition to count him as Slyth? He boasts about his daily accomplishments but later it feels like he's just sailing through life because he lost his direction.
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>>83512855
is there any more official stuff for him aside from that one piece of concept art that Byron made?
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>>83512899
Nick should be hufflepuff then. Hufflepuff is where you put people that don't fit anywhere else.
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>>83512901
All the Savage [location] stuff here and there's a few other character sheets of him I've seen.
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>>83512824
>Finnick in Hufflepuff
Nah he's Slyth. In his short screentime, he mostly just cared for himself and left Nick.
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>>83508547
>movie with Batman and Superman on title
by principle, it's already pandering to kids AND retards
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>>83510027
I imagining him on Dracula 3000
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https://twitter.com/thejaredbush/status/739499821254496257

https://twitter.com/_rich_moore/status/739504391829393408
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>>83511837
>That list
That's the reason why they aren't doing as well anymore.

Having a bag of chips once and a while is good, but when it becomes a regular thing, it becomes bland an uninteresting. Eventually you get too much and become repulsed by it. Even the Chinese audience which seems to gobble up anything so long as it's American, is starting to get bored by the same thing over and over. You can argue that each hero movie is different in some way, but it eventually boils down to

>(Some name)-man saves the day with jokes and cool powers that somehow relate to (Some name).

It wouldn't be this way if Disney put some more time and variety between each hero film. Even if it's just recycled crap like those Alice films, it would help keep the hero movies feeling fresh, even if they aren't. Because if audiences had just come out of watching garbage, that hero movie coming out in a month will seem all the more fresh in comparison.
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>>83512824
who's the ravenclaw
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>>83512934
Hufflepuffs are team people. They're the patient, supportive ones who work well/don't mind working in a team. They're more cautious as well. They don't mind if they don't get mentioned in the glory so long as things ended well.

Gryffs are team people as well, but more brash.

Slyth and Raves have an inclination on doing things solo, and strive for personal gains (glory for Slyth, knowledge for Rave).
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>>83512633
Maybe they wanted to go a different way?

BvS sucked, I assume, because of Snyder but there is absolutely nothing wrong with making superhero movies darker.

If we have a lighthearted MCU, why can't there also be a darker DCU?
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is there anywhere i can pirate the novelization and the essential guide [other than those photographs on imgur] yet?
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>>83513068
Why are there multiple pictures of Nick and Judy having an eevee baby?
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>>83513068
It's why Zootopia managed to do so damn well despite being a pretty normal movie with a premise that has been seen so many times before: because the number of films between the last one and this one is so large that it feels fresh and new.

One could argue it's also furry as fuck but so was King Fu Panda, yet that alone isn't enough to get it a billion in the box office now is it?
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>>83513082
Jack Savage. The initial protagonist for the film project that became Zootopia. He eventually morphed into Nick Wilde.
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>>83513068
>aren't doing as well anymore

Civil War is still killing fifth week in. It made its billion in a week, two.
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>>83513169
Kung Fu Panda didn't have Disney marketing dollar.
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>>83513030
Our reaction image. Good man
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>>83513169
It also had the Disney brandname.

People have been mindlessly gobbling Disney shit up in recent years -- but in this case I'm glad since Zootopia actually deserves its success unlike some other Disney films *cough*Frozen*cough*
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>>83513237
Neither did Zootopia.
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>>83513237
That's bullshit. KFP had way more marketing than Zootopia. Zootopia had shit marketing and felt like they were only advertising it as a tech demo.
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>>83509232
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
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>>83513237
Preeetty sure it's marketing budget dwarfed Zootopia's in comparison.
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>>83513285
See >>83513257

Zootopia defnitely got the shaft by Disney, and how successful it ended up being is an indication of quality... but chances are it would have made bank regardless because "muh Disney."

That's why I fear both Finding Dory and Moana. Those two films have Disney's powers behind them and even if they don't turn out as good will be advertised everywhere and probably overshadow Zootopia both at the Box Office and, I fear, at the Oscars.
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Did anyone else find the main story mediocre?

I mean the setting, characters, background details were all spectacular and the movie overall was enjoyable, but the main story just seemed kind of shit.

I think it's particularly that the ending felt rushed.
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>>83513353
i agree, the main plot was generic at best.
everything else specially the city and its district is beyond incredible.
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>>83513330
>muh Disney
Disney has a couple of movies that didn't earn well despite having the Disney name. Disney name can't save a movie 100%. Zootopia was doomed to fail and be forgotten if not for word of mouth.
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>>83513186
Because that's doing the one thing in superhero movies that is still relatively new: taking a bunch of other heroes with their own established films and smashing them into one. One thing that cinema-goers still don't see a lot of is crossovers.
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>>83513353
While I agree the plot was a bit boring i.e. an underdog who rose up and became the best type story but i think within the world they created it became very unique in it's own right.
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>>83513353
I thought it was pretty solid and well paced. It's a police procedural/neo-noir plot; Investigating a seemingly mundane case, following up on clues, crime scenes and witnesses. Discovering the uglier side of the seemingly bright and utopian city. Plus, character development on both ends.

I suppose they could've figured out a better way to communicate how long Judy's leave from the force was though.
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>>83513353
Well they had like 5 different versions of the film already made. Odds are the one that was approved was a rush job. You can tell they tried to make it not feel like one at least.
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>>83513353
>>83513403
I genuinely think the main story is great for how neat it felt, overall. It wasn't something new but it felt polished to me
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>>83513443
>but i think within the world they created it became very unique in it's own right.
This is a good point
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>>83513257
Disney carries weight, but it isn't enough to catapult a film to success. Disney only puts in 'just enough' effort before a film's release. Only if it does very good and they know they have a winner do they kick into high gear and market it like crazy.
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>Looking into the near future, will Finding Dory become the fifth animated film to cross $1 billion and the third of the year for Disney?
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Minions GTFO!!!

right?
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>>83512899
Well Nick does go through an epiphany in the end of the movie, where he realizes he doesn't have to act cunning and stuff, just because he was placed in Slytherin doesnt mean that defines him
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>>83513568
I sure hope not. If this shitty unwanted sequel surpasses Zootopia because of " heh, i remember that" and Disney throwing everything at marketing ill be really upset.
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>>83513155
Probably because Eevee's look like a mix between a rabbit and a fox if you have little imagination and want something that looks cute rather than a festering abomination begging for death.
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>>83513626
What's a minion?
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>>83513568
>Disney literally becomes the film industry

>no other animation studio has a chance outside of Illumination and their Minions shit


Kill me now...
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>>83513567
>Only if it does very good and they know they have a winner do they kick into high gear and market it like crazy.

so Zootopia still has a chance to have lots of dedicated merchandise? Holliday season is so far away..
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>>83513655
They're marketing it because it's Pixar(who still has a decent track record), and because it's a sequel(the original did good so the formula must work).
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>>83513690

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4V6rvcLsk8
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>>83513655
Welcome to the general public and movies though.

People will throw money at it because it is Pixar and "lol I remember growing up with Finding Nemo."

Nostalgia sells more than quality now-a-days.
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>>83513568
>that image

Fuck you Disney. I never saw an entire quarter of the wall sanctioned for Zootopia merch, but NO, Finding Sequel Money is FAR more deserving..
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>>83513645
The big part I see in being sorted in Slyth is shooting for personal glory. I don't see that with Nick at all.
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>>83513089
Gryffindor is GI Joe
Slytherin is Cobra

Everything else is a target for their blue/red lasers.
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>>83513702
Dreamworks is still in there with KFP, but that's kinda lackluster now.

And Illumination apparently didn't learn from the past
>Don't beat Disney by being Disney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvjmt4pwtdg
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>>83513726
>so the formula must work
>formula must work

So we've reached a point where we've accepted that the film industry has a formula and makes products as opposed to art... and we're cool with it.
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>>83513748

i refuse to watch FD now.
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>>83513805
You've only just realized this?
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>>83513778
I was at the airport recently. Saw Minions shit, Frozen shit, and even Finding Dory shit at the Duty Free Shop.

Not ONE piece of Zootopia Merch.

Fuck the only thing I hate more than Disneyfagging is Pixarfagging. I really fucking hope Dory bombs both critically and financially.
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>>83513726
>>83513748
Oh i have no doubt it will do good. I just hope it won't break 1 billion but if the success of Toy Story 3 is anything to judge off the theaters are gonna be loaded and the toy shops will have empty shelves. Nostalgia is killing the fun behind it while the business booms.
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>>83513805
Anon this has been going on for a long time. The film industry has been garbage since at least the 90s.
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>>83513805
Oh I'm not cool with it. I just know why they do it. It makes it no less stupid though.
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>>83513802
>Dreamworks is still in there with KFP, but that's kinda lackluster now.

Don't forget HTTYD.
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>>83513802
DreamWorks is kill sadly. They seem to think only their cartoony, silly films sell.

Then again, what else are they supposed to think when HTTYD2 is labeled as a box office disappointment and loses an Oscar to fucking Disney capeshit... meanwhile shit like Home does better than expected and is hailed as a "success."

In addition to enabling Disney to create a monopoly, I blame general audiences for the current trend of bland flicks we are having thrown at us.
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>>83513780
I imagine Slyverin also gets the people who go over the top for financial gain as well and apply their talents towards that. If that is the case then I think it suits Nick better. He certainly isn't in it for knowledge in any case.
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>>83513830
>>83513852
>>83513860

Oh I know films have always been made with the intent of selling to the public, but at least in the past they could still come across as artistic in how they were made, shot, or written.

Hell, even the more cliched studio films of the 40's - 60's seem to have more love and care put into the artistic components than almost anything made today.
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>>83513778

yeah it's better in Japan, but that was AFTER the success of the movie.

anyway i have like 10 complaints about the Zoo merchandise.

let's start with DI figures:

yes, we know , DI is dead, cancelled and whatnot, but they could at least they make the figures more fitting to the movie.

Nick Wilde is perfect, stylized, but captures his personality perfectly.

Judy, scale aside, is nothing like from the movie, she never used any gun, and is not a kind of girl who shoot first, ask later.

She's just a redone Hopps from Zoodystopia
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>>83513802
>>83513885
Oh dreamworks the original sequel whores have a bunch of washed up, done to death stories they are gonna wring for every last screen minute they can. Face it; Disney has won. R.I.P animation
At least we have got the Disney B movies to look forward to.
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>>83513844
Nostalgia is literally all a film has to pander to in order to do well these days with critics and the public.

Case in point -- The Force Awakens.

Heck, I even found TS3 to be overrated (good, but hardly "le best animated film of all time" as most people seem to think of it), but they sure knew how to pander to those of us who grew up with it.
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>>83513957

here's the Hopps im talking about, only changed hair and different gun.
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>>83513890
>HTTYD2 is labeled as a box office disappointmen
HTTYD2 is a disappointment in general.
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>>83513977
I just want HTTYD3 to be fantastic and win the Oscar. After that I could give a shit.

And no anon, Disney has not won. For now they have, but I feel that soon they will hit their peak and not even the most blatant shills on the planet will be able to protect them as another studio swoops in for the kill.

At least that is my hope.
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>>83513893
I wouldn't say he's not in it for knowledge. He knows a lot of things and knows a lot of people. It could only be a byproduct of his desire to work/earn money, or maybe he has a knack for knowing things. And for all the claims of financial gain, he certainly didn't look like he was totally in it and even dropped that the moment Judy offered him to be an officer.
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>>83513957
I think they're just modeling it after the dart gun she used in that one trailer.
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>>83514027
>I just want HTTYD3 to be fantastic and win the Oscar
Not with Hiccup as lead. Good god he sounded so pathetic in HTTYD2. It was excusable in the first one because he was insecure about everything, but by number 2 he should have confidence and sound confident. Instead he came across as having no clue what he was saying. Unless they get a new voice actor, I don't know how number 3 will fare any better.
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>>83513068
>That's the reason why they aren't doing as well anymore.
Avengers is at 1.5b
Avengers 2 1.2b
Civil War just crossed 1b
Iron man 3 is still the highest non Avengers earner
And GoTG earned a hell of a lot more than anyone expected, and could easily break 1b with volumen 2.
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>>83513992
Sadly this is true. Can't really blame people though I've fell into the trap of nostalgia before as well.
Huh I just had a thought. If all they are making is sequels and nostalgia shit and all their other stuff is falling to the side, forgotten, wouldn't that mean in 10 years they are gonna run dry and have to come up with new ideas again?
Or am i being too optimistic and are we gonna be getting toy story 4 in 2025?
Maybe they will start trying to market their flops with sequels because it will be all Hipster by then.
The good dinosaur 2.
"oh yeah i loved the good dinosaur as a kid. I'm a true 2k10 kid" or some shit like that
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2/10

Tommy toys. on the plus side: it's a variety of characters and vehicles, on the minus side:

it seems these characters have open arms meaning they could hold accesories, but there's NONE. nothing they could hold, not even a pawpsicle.

Vehicles: nick never had a car, judy only rode police car at the very end of the movie, and meter maid vehicle despite having lots of lights, doesnt light up AT ALL.

cheap plastic garbage.
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>>83514160
We are getting a Toy Story 4 in 2018 anon.
I'm not even joking.

>>83514128
Baruchel was fine.

And I'm still more confident in HTTYD3 (Dean directing, Powell scoring, not afraid to take things down darker path, etc) than any of the sequels that Pixar will be shitting out over the next few years.

Why the fuck do we need a Cars 3 or Toy Story 4? Who the fuck wants either of those?
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>>83513153
Seconding this
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>>83514232
Cars is just a vehicle (no pun intended) for merchandise. It exists solely to sell more toys.
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stupid writings on tshirts.

"protect the herd"
"the fox has arrived"

who came up with these? i occassionaly find "it's called a hustle" on kid's bedding or shirt, but who the call changed "dont call me cute" to "don't call me cuddly"

did a machine generated these quotes?
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>>83514271
>Zootopia is just a city full of mammals for merchandise. It exists solely to sell more toys
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>>83514271
That doesn't excuse them. I mean, this is Pixar -- the company film critics and millennials have lauded for their creativity and originality and ingenuity - the company people use as the pinnacle when mocking and deriding other animation studios that don't quite reach their "quality."

They should be the LAST company to be given a pass for turning into blatant corporate whores.
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>>83514047
That's a good point honestly but we don't really know the extent of it before that. He has been doing the hustle game for years and it was only really Judy's friendship that snapped him out of it. We know that HP houses don't define you 100% like a Hermoine is the best in her year and in Gryphindor. So if Nick had a trauma as a kid which ruined his outlook and it took somebody accepting him for him to change then I think it would be more acceptable for the hat to put him into slytherin because he became what they said he was a sly, cunning, untrustworthy fox; so Nick would in his confused state have asked the hat to put him into Sltherin because that is where he thought he belonged. We know the hat listens in any case.
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>>83514326

actually..

variety of new animal toys/plushies.
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>>83509326
More racism. Topic is incredibly broad and the movie barely scratched the surface. Economic inequality alone has to be a major thing in Zootopia, tiny animals probably earn wages that completely outstrip their cost of living while elephants and the like are no smarter than anyone else but require an absurd number of calories to survive and need everything to be huge. In a society where manual labor becomes less and less necessary, large mammals should be finding it much tougher to survive and are probably not all that pleased that rodents can have everything they want for pennies.
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>>83514361
Still it only exist to sell shits and nothing else.
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>>83514336
I'm not giving them a pass, I'm explaining why they keep making them. If nobody was buying the toys there wouldn't have been 3 movies.
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>>83514326
Where are the toys disney?

WHERE ARE THE TOYS?
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>>83514394

so does ice age, but that shit is keep being milked.

need something fresher.
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>>83514428
>>>/toy/
>>>/toy/
>>>/toy/
>>>/toy/
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>>83514399
Oh no I'm not saying you are. I understand what you are saying and you're right -- sorry if it seems like I was berating you.

Though what I meant was that it seems like the rest of the internet gives Pixar a pass, though, because they have such a fixation for their films that they're unable to take their blinders off.

It is like when they mock DreamWorks for making a ton of sequels, while in the same breath saying how excited they are for the plethora of sequels Pixar will be churning out.
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>such an articulate fella
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>>83514232
>Toy Story 4 in 2018
Just kill me already
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>>83514027
We can only hope that Disney get knocked off their high horse and have to make quality stuff again but the fact they own marvel pixar and their own shit I highly doubt it.
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>>83514428

i keep complaining about it too.

can i send a message to disney store to inform them im willing to give them my money for some decent stuff?

4/10

here's a board game, it's neat, simple...

and overpriced as fuck, i could make same fucking thing for 3 dollars with a pair of scissors and a piece of cardboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61N5JDh3Tkk

they could at least add figures to represent players. just like they said.
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>>83514486
kek
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>>83514526
Yeah I'm probably being a bit too optimistic. Cinema and originality in Hollywood is dead and soon there will be nothing but Disney produced flicks. Sad, really.

Also pains me that by love of Zootopia results in me succumbing to becoming another Disney drone wanting to give them money for merchandise. Really wish another studio had made it so I wouldn't feel quite as bad that I love the movie....
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>>83514337
Hermione's knowledge is kind of a red herring. Yes she shows the common Ravenclaw trait (probably her second trait) but people don't always notice that her brashness overpowers this (fucking setting her teacher on fire for shaky suspicions, for one). And I'm not really considering the hat, just going through the personality he showed in the movie. Good talk though. I'm not really into HP anymore but I enjoy sorting house talks.
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>ITT: /co/ - Toys
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>>83514486
top kek
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>>83514486

buy the big ones , and customize them.
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>>83508114
>When should we expect a sequel announcement?
Soon. Then expect it to be quietly shelved forever like Wreck-It Ralph 2.
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>>83514494
>be DreamWorks
>announce HTTYD3 for July of 2017
>Pixar announces Toy Story 4 for July of 2017
>weeks apart from HTTYD3
>being smart for once DreamWorks pushes HTTYD3 back to July 2018
>Months later Disney updates info and Toy Story 4 now set for July 2018 -- again mere weeks outside of HTTYD3

Why do I feel like Pixar/Disney are only making Toy Story 4 as a means to suck the wind out of DreamWorks sails and overshadow the ending to the Dragons trilogy that started the same year Toy Story 3 came out?

Fuck. Pixar.
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>>83513780
Slytherin is resourcefulness and ambition
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>>83513568
I went to Disney Springs yesterday and couldn't find any Zootopia toys. They had a section for The Good Dinosaur, though. :(
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>>83514590
Bat Eyewitness is my favourite character
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I thought it was a god movie.....

Good, not great
Disney was pretty heavy-handed when it was shoving the discrimination rhetoric down your throat.

I said this before the movie, and I'll say it again after seeing it......
>People make a big deal about a rabbit joining the police force
>Despite a whole community of rodents existing in the same goddamn city
>People make a big deal about a fox joining the police force
>Despite wolves being on it
>Why? For what reason?

Shallow world, shallow themes--I've said it once, and I'll say it again--anthropomorphism works best when it's for characterization.

>proceed with the angry replies
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>>83514578
>I'm not really into HP
Me too Anon.
I just like the idea of sorting people into predefined group and arguing about who goes where.
>red herring
Well i'd say that Nick's resourcefulness is probably his primary trait at the start of the movie, what with the jumbo pops and everything and that fits the bill for slytherin.
Let's just put him in Huffle puff and call it a day.
Slytherin wouldn't let him in anyway, tyhose racist bastards.
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>>83514660
Are you literally autistic?
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>>83514580

good movie deserves good merchandise.

5/10

why the hell best promo stuff is in malaysia/indonesia, there are some lucky SOB's who won their stuff.

i want that tray, i want that tshirt, i want that cap.

because i love the movie.gonna save them for my kid.
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>>83514660
>>People make a big deal about a fox joining the police force
>>Despite wolves being on it
i never heard of a sly wolf, have you?
or cunning as a wolf.
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>>83514637

it's because it's biggest shelfwarmer of 2015.
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>>83514154
And yet BvS was a mixed bag. So it sells well. So did Transformers. The problem is that people are starting to be less excited with each iteration.

Not only did Zootopia sell well but people gush about it. Super hero movies are in this sort of limbo state, where they still make a lot of money from die hard fans and movie-watchers that still buy into it for the name alone. Yet each time more and more people are starting to think 'maybe this has been done to death'.
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>>83514614
They are trying to starve dreamworks to death. R.I.P.
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>>83514635
I don't think Slyth's the only house that fits resourcefulness. Ambition fits other houses too, like Ravenclaw. What separates Slytherin and Ravenclaw are their different ambitions. Slyth is more on personal glory and fame, while Ravenclaw is knowledge. They're both kind of the same when working: they prefer working alone.
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>>83514486
fef
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>>83509835
Hollywood blockbusters translate well to most all territories, regardless of language or local differences. Shit blows up, people shoot guns or superpowered blasts, punches and kicks, big villains that want to destroy everything or kill everyone. Easy to understand. Things like psychological thrillers, mysteries, or comedies do worse because those sorts of things ard harder to translate successfully -- especially comedy which could rely on timing and settings unfamiliar to foreign countries. These sorts of movies get heavier localization than your typical action blockbuster.

The most popular tv dramas in the world are the typical NCIS/CSI style procedurals, because they are so simple. The NCIS are the good guys, they stop terrorists and other evil people, they show step-by-step how it is done so viewers can follow along. Simple and effective.
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>>83508555
Avatar, Titanic, Frozen, Jurassic Park, and now Zootopia.
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>>83514775
>NCIS/CSI
Zootopia CSI style spin off show where?
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>>83514788
Actually sorry Jurassic Park was in 1993. So

Avatar, Titanic, Frozen. And Zootopia
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>>83514662
Not joking but I see the resourceful thing as a Huff trait, plus add the fact that Nick seems to be quickly okay and comfortable with working with people, add his patience with Flash, and his desire to serve as an officer/scout, he may very well be a Huff.
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>>83514824
Also it was an adaptation of a novel
Titanic you could argue is based on historical fact but it's so embellished I'll let it slide
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>>83514660
>People make a big deal about a fox joining the police force
>Despite wolves being on it
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>>83514864
Wolves are much more vicious than foxes, so it's not so surprising
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>>83514814

enjoy your webbrowser game instead!
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>>83514660
>I thought it was a god movie
>god movie
Whoa, dude!! Hold your faith there!
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>>83514854
Slytherin traits are as follows anon
>Resourcefulness
>Cunning
>Ambition
>Self-Preservation
>Fraternity
t.the HP wiki
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>>83514886
Have you watched the Finding Dory trailer? I think your expectations should be a lot lower
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>>83514864
foxes are the nigs of Zootopia
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>>83514748
That is the only reason I am sort of happy Comcast owns DWA now -- at least they can advertise the fuck out of their films and that was an area DreamWorks struggled with.

They need to push HTTYD3 back to August/September (out of TS3 run time but closer to Oscar season) and just promote the hell out of it.
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>>83514937

i forgot to add _revenue. ;^)
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>>83514911
>>83514854
>>83514756
According to Dumbledore, Slytherin traits are:

>‘Listen to me, Harry. You happen to have many qualities Salazar Slytherin prized in his hand-picked students. His own very rare gift, Parseltongue … resourcefulness … determination … a certain disregard for rules,’
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>>83514903
>implying Nick isn't our one true lord and savior
>implying him sharing first name with One True God was purely coincidental
>implying a furry religion won't arise with Nick as their deity
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>>83514494
This picture never fails to disturb me
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>>83514981
Eh, it'll still probably make loads off of the back of people seeing it over nostalgia. It's being advertised everywhere too
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>>83514937
Isn't it basically a rehash of Finding Nemo, but with Dory the one going missing?
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>>83514660
They're not against animals with sharp teeth to be in the force. It's the fact that foxes are associated with bad things like being untrustworthy and sly and being deceitful and all. What's the first thing that you think of when asked about wolves? I immediately think about how they work well in groups/packs, and that sounds like a great thing in a police officer career.

The rodents look like they have their own police force, which is understandable because anything really big could just crush them or inefficient when chasing in their little city. Judy was joining not the rodent force, but the big-sized mammalian force, so she was met with criticism at how she will handle mammals bigger than her. Plus there's the connotation of how bunnies look cute and harmless, which is similar to how foxes are viewed in general.
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Who was that successful manga artist that was going to do a new anthropomorphic animal manga after they were done with their current popular(?) one?
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>>83515029
Yup.
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>>83515029

she's not missing, she just looks for her parents (gee, how original) and meets grumpy octopus hank on her way.
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>>83514185
You gotta supply your own accessories man
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>>83515029
It seemed like that. Looks like they're going really overboard with the 'aquariums are evil' thing, which is funny since the film is going to result in a new generation of fish being flushed down the toilet after a weeks of being kept in the wrong type of water.
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>>83515088
>it's called guerilla warfare sweetheart
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>>83514911
>>83514996
Determination (for something specific), Cunning, Self-Preservation, and Fraternity, I really agree. I don't really agree with Resourcefulness and Ambition, as I feel those two are really vague and apply to more than one house. I remember Hermione winning points from Dumbledore for being resourceful, and she shows way more resourcefulness than Harry.
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>>83515098
>fish being flushed down the toilet after a weeks of being kept in the wrong type of water.
People are fucking stupid.
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>>83515232

tell that to these chinks who buy fennecs as pets.
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>>83515232
Doing 5 minutes of research before heading to the pet shop is too much for most people, sadly.

>>83515250
Fuck off, Nick
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>>83515218
>Hermione winning points
You can win points for being good. Doesn't mean it is a major point of your personality.
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>>83515061
They still proceeded to shove the prejudice/discrimination rhetoric down your throats--it wasn't even subtle.

Finding Nemo wasn't shouting 'I'M HANDICABLE', so why can't they have a movie about discrimination without bringing it up every 5 minutes.
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goodnight, thread.
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>>83515334
It was one of those speeches/last minute things Dumbledore does at the end of the school year that royally fucks the Slyths from winning the house cup, I think. The author highlighting that should mean something. And again, it is supported by the numerous scenes where Hermione was actually resourceful than Harry. Harry always has things falling onto his lap.
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>>83515485
See you tomorrow anon
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>>83513957

I super like the Infinity figures though.
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>>83511983
Look at Nick's face.... you knwo what he's thinking

>"This song is so horrible...it's driving me insane, but I have to be strong, just gotta pretend I'm enjoying this...after the concert I'll finally have taste of that sweet sweet carrot cake"
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>>83515570
Judy looks kinda off there. Nick looks okay though
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>>83509326
Looking at Lethal Weapon, the premiere buddy cop series of movies. Every movie has to do with some kind of criminal empire, but with underlying political issues topical of the time.
First movie: General racism
Second movie: Apartheid(more specific racism)
Third movie: Gang violence
Forth movie: illegal immigration
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>>83515450
I agree that they weren't subtle with prejudice regarding Judy joining the force or other characters not trusting a fox. What I think was subtle was that how in the end it shows you that both sides are flawed and prejudiced, and it didn't raise just one pedestal for one side. It could have been a girl power kind of movie, or it could have been the small mammals underdog kind of movie, but in the end it showed that absolutely everyone had prejudices, which mirrors well with real life. It ties well with the ending speech about how the world has always been broken and we should try to make it a better place.
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>>83515635
>>83513998
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I love this film because when I say that it has some adult themes to it I don't mean that it's violent or lewd.

I'm a sucker for G or PG rated thinkers (looking at you twilight zone).
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Remember those anons that kept spamming it wouldn't reach 1 billion or less than that, how wrong can you be holy shit.
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>>83510149
>China, Japan, Europe and Latin America only making 66% of sales is pathetic.
They have their own movies, so, no, it isn't
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>>83515833
>how wrong can you be
nothing will ever beat the MLP porn guy
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>>83515287
>tell that to these chinks who buy fennecs as pets.
People still believe this?
http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/23/is-zootopia-creating-demand-for-pet-fennec-foxes-in-china-spoiler-probably-not/

Fact is the only ones that would be able to afford it are the same rich-kid dumbasses who run people over in their imported Mercedes and Ferraris, and then expect their parents to throw money at the courts until they are off the hook: few in number and universally reviled by the rest of the Chinese.
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>People think that Disney will be able to keep pumping out billion dollar films
Rouge One is the last film that will probably make a shit load and that's because Star Wars
Compare that to shit like Finding Dory, which is a sequel no one asked for to a film most people consider okay and Moana which will bomb in Asia due to brown Princess and sizzle in most other regions because most people not really caring for Pacific Islanders
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>>83515716
>Forth movie: illegal immigration
Sooo ... reptiles ?
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daily reminder that a movie about two iconic superheroes that everybody's hyping for got beaten by an unknown animated movie about anthromorphic animal starring a fox and a rabbit
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>>83509835
Euros like DIVERSITY and Japs like cute things. Zootopia has both.
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>>83515852
You really don't need to go through that much trouble to get away with Hit 'n runs in China.

A person that gets run over by a truck is more likely to get run over again by a passerby than helped.
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>>83515934
angry birds crossover
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>>83515913
Frozen 2 is coming in 2018 or 2019 tho
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>>83515848
>the MLP porn guy

im afraid to ask, but pls explain anyways
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>>83516084
I meant this year
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>>83509880
>why do chinks eat this shit up?

Because Chinese have only recently began to realize
>Hey if we actually give a shit, maybe people will like our shit
For the longest time, they were content to just churn out garbage, or bootleg garbage because there was nothing to motivate them to do better. Then stuff like Kung Fu Panda came along and they were shocked to see how Americans were able to do a Chinese film better than Chinese. Now they are actually paying attention to foreign media, using that as a basis for actually making quality work of their own. It's going to take a long time though before they get anything that is consistently good though.

Little Door Gods was a step in the right direction but even that has hiccups that keep it from being great.
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>>83513805
>Discovering that the film industry was all about making money all along
I wish I was still that innocent. The film industry has always been about the money. Always.
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>>83515946
I know, it's great isn't it?
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>>83516127
>using that as a basis for actually making quality work of their own
that's a really funny way of saying "ignoring copyright law and stealing"
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>>83516104
Ahhhhh sorry
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>>83515946
Truly a legend for the next generation
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>>83515934
>Adorable turtle family smuggled into Zootopia to work for criminal alligator/crocodile empire.
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>>83516155
>You will never dress up as Nick
>walking around all day with cute girl dressed as Judy
>Holding her hand most of the time
>After a long shift you're both all sweaty
>Go back to the Disney locker and have crazy sweaty sex because that's apparently what happens there
>with the suits on
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>>83516155
Dat waggle.
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>>83516269

How many photos and videos have we seen of Goofy or Mickey humping Minnie in suits, or whatever? I eagerly await some leaked kink with those suits.
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>>83516269
Wouldn't it just be you flopping around on top of each other if you had the suits on?
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>all this Lethal Weapon talk
WHERE IS THE ZOOTOPIA/LETHAL WEAPON CROSSOVER? Not ONE person decided to draw that?

It has been 3 months for fucks sake.
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>>83516094
When mlp premiered ...
There was a guy who said that the show wasn't gonna be popular and that NO PORN of it would be made...
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>UH UH UH UH UH
>TRY EVERYTHING TRY EVERYTHING
what did she mean by this?

Do you think she was speaking directly to the female viewers?
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>>83516473
No anon, she was talking to the male viewers in order to get us ready for pic related.
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>>83516473
She meant that sex with bunnies is OK

Stupid questions get correct answers
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Anyone up for a stream?
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>>83509505
>watch it
>it sucks
>try to tell my Uncle, who loved it, that it just felt like a proof of concept or a Pilot to a TV show that doesn't exist
>"well you could say The Lion King is a Pilot to the Lion Guard"
Yeah, a toddler's cartoon 20 Years later suddenly makes a complete film with complete story arcs and fully developed characters means that it's just a Pilot and not a movie that can stand on its own, you fucking idiot.
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>>83516564
you think we will get through the whole thing this time?
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>>83516598
I'll host it on my machine
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>>83516625
sweet, go for it.
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>>83516564
I guess I can
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>>83509505
>Wreck it Ralph lost the Oscar to Brave
>Tangled wasn't even nominated
>Zootopia will probably lose to either Moana or Finding Dory

Meanwhile...
>Frozen beats The Wind Rises
>Big Hero 6 beats Song of the Sea, The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, How to Train Your Dragon 2, and an un-nominated Lego Movie

Life is unfair...
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>>83516691
I hope that you already have Judy
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>>83516564
Fuck, I'm about to go to sleep
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>>83516691
It's actually not a bad looking statue.
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>>83516269
>You FINALLY get paid to dress up as Nick
>walking around all day with cute girl dressed as Judy
>Holding her hand most of the time
>You fall in love with her, it seems she has feeling for you too
>After a long shift you decide to tell her how you feel
>Go back to the locker room
>see her having crazy sweaty sex with Buzz Lightyear
>yfw
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>>83516358
Well, I was drawing a zootopia / certain other legendary meme cop show crossover but i-it's a wip
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>>83516718
This
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>>83516707
The best animation oscar means nothing because hollywood treats animated films like kiddy shit.
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>>83516720
Anon I don't like NTR
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>>83516691
Ey, nice loot! How much was it?
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>>83509739
>rehash Toy Story 2 and ending of Brave Little Toaster
>add some nostalgia manipulation
>"OMG BEST MOVIE EVER!!!! 10/10!!!"

Honestly Zootopia is the only film in >>83509608
that has the correct rating from what I've seen.

I'm sure Minions is just as shitty as RT says (haven't seen it yet), but Toy Story 3 is VASTLY overrated and Frozen is just a bad plot-hole filled mess covered up by comedy and musical numbers.

Zootopia is the pinnacle of the "second renaissance" and Disney is gonna have a hard time topping it, especially since now the executives will really be breathing down Byron and Rich's necks.
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>>83516691
>Buying toys for cancelled games
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>>83516714
>>83516677
>>83516647
>>83516564
Will be up here in a minute
https://m.fuwa.se/6sjeh1.html/stream.html

Tell me the quality as I might need to restart a couple of times to find the sweet spot
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>>83516707
>When Marnie was There lost to Inside Out
what a travesty.
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>>83516859
kinda blocky
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>>83508369
Executive meddling forcing Snyder to cut out half an hour of plot and development to make room for Justice League setup.
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>>83516801
Neither do I .... I was just trying to be funny.
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>>83516859
Looks a bit shit, going to be honest
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>>83513257
Just because you dislike Frozen and it had some blatant flaws doesn't mean it didn't "earn" its success. It was marketed abysmally until it proved itself by drawing in audiences and Disney realised that despite their expectations they had a hit.

But just having the "Disney brand name" doesn't mean shit. Princess and the Frog grossed 297 mil worldwide, for example, despite being marketed more than Frozen before release if memory serves me right.
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So how did this happen? Was it people seeing it multiple times? Is this like Avatar where people become addicted to seeing the film in theaters? No one wrote articles about highly profitable super fan with the Zootopia equivalent of Avatar blues. I was surprise to hear someone some weeabro say he saw it three times.
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>>83516157
>"ignoring copyright law and stealing"
No they were doing that before hand because they had no reason to be any better or make their own shit.

KFP really was a wake up call when other countries could capture their own culture better than they could. You actually started seeing a new brand of artists and animators in China after that: ones that actually give a shit.
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Maybe should stream again in a week or so? We did just do one yesterday so that maybe explains the little interest (and it's a Sunday)
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>>83517192
Yeah probably thats a good idea
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>>83516859
Continued streaming here with a higher bitrate
https://m.fuwa.se/8fn5rn.html/stream.html
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One Billion huh?
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>>83517336
Sure I've read that (or it) somewhere
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>>83510923
Zootopia is forced to go to war after it's invaded by the evil Empire of Dinopolis.
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>>83517383
Did you happen to mean Dinotopia? (Google that in case you haven't heard of it)
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I can't fucking believe it. We might not beat toy story 3, minions, or frozen. But we sure as fuck made 1 billion. This is awesome.
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>>83517157
There are people who saw it a lot of times, and the Asian markets liked it a lot. I wouldn't say it's the same level as Avatar though. Word of mouth was just really successful and there are a lot of people outside the US.
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>>83510088

>95% ears
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>>83517241
>>83517192
Yeah nevermind, I'll fix my shit and stream next week.
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>>83517520
What's needed in terms of upload speed?
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Guys. Will zootpia beat Toy Story 3?
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>>83517562
it doesn't matter. What matters is symbolic success of the underdog masterpiece.
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>>83509326
>THEIR LOVE IS REAL!
Gays.
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If Nick and Judy have any sort of child figure in the sequel, it should be either an adopted child or a non-hybrid non-freak of nature. And it should be just one.

If the Zootopia team was willing to address prejudice between animals, maybe having only one kid between N&J would allow them to portray a child realistically. Something other than some always happy kid that's doing random shit, but a child that realizes that they're place in the world isn't entirely natural.

Say what you will, but kids can be observant and intelligent, and simply lack what everyone else has; experience. Any sort of child that an audience can actually empathize with would definitely put the sequel on the map.
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One bunny-un dolla.
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>>83517562
God I hope so.

Pixarfags on suicide watch.
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>>83508547
DCuck on suicide watch
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>>83508296
that smile is what keeps me a step away from suicide
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>>83508547
Here you go
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>>83509608
ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER
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>mtv interview thing
>howard is surprised that half the fans want judy/nick together while half don't
>half
>50%
>5 0 %

There are 500 million $ worth of movie goers that DON'T want these two together? Literally what. These two HAVE to get together in that sequel, man. It's fucking cute and they'll make a great pair!

I'm really thinking it's more a 70/30 split on wanting them together versus not. Not a clear 50/50 split. Hell wasn't there a poll on here that lasted a long time that was pretty one sided on it? though that only accounts for opinions on here, but it's something.
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>>83510027
...Holy shit it was fucking ZEUS?!?
That's fucking amazing!
Good for him!
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>>83517922
I think he was referring to the crew being split 50/50
only a fraction of a percent of the audience don't want them together
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>>83517922
I don't want this movie to promote species mixing like how I would hate to see a movie with humans promote race mixing.
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>>83517992
Oh, my bad. I thought he meant the fans..
wait a second..let me check that article.
NOPE.

"“At the very end of the movie, it does feel like there could be a little bit more, but never did I think that it would turn into the shipping that it’s become. It’s so weird because half the fans are like, ‘We love WildeHopps, and they need to get together and get married,’ and then there’s this other side that’s like, ‘No! They should not get together. Do male and female characters always have to get together at the end of every movie? Can’t they just stay best friends?"

Clearly says "fans" right there. They think it's a clear 50/50. That's incorrect.
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>>83518068
Well I mean if I was quietly planning a sequel, one of the big possible plots would be a will they or won't they romantic subplot, so naturally it'd be a dumb as fuck move to declare at this point that "oh we'll totally pair them together in the sequel if we'll ever make one ;)"
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>>83517922
>>83517992
>>83518068
>Poll

What poll? anyone have the link?
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Late to the news, but grats /zoo/ :^)
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>>83518117
Thanks la'. Couldn't have done it without your posts
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>>83508114
>Reaches $1 Billion only a few days before it goes for sale on BR
WEW lad Disney is having a great year.

How do we douse this Mouse?
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>>83518478
Finding Dory. It has all the earmarks of a movie getting overhyped and being a disappointment because it just can't match that hype.
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>>83516269
>cute girl dressed as Judy
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>>83508114
>flying home from Phoenix AZ to Boston MA yesterday
>5 hour flight
>"our in flight entertainment today will be..."
>oh great, it's proabably Minions or some shit
>"DISNEY'S ZOOTOPIA."
>put on my surround-sound headphones and enjoy the ride

wtf, I love American Airlines now
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>>83518478
We can't... unfortunately.

Great that Zootopia's doing so well, it totally deserves all the cash it can get. But man... all this does is further make me fear the future of film.

Soon the only mainstream films that will be making money will be either Disney properties or shit franchises like Furious 28 and Minions.

Also I can't stand the Disney circlejerk, and can already see it starting on Reddit.
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>>83518043
You are the EXACT reason it's going to happen, you realize.
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>>83518663
The financialization of all industries reduces the overall quality of our lives. Unfortunately, film is no exception.
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>>83518776
Yep.
Also now that Zootopia is a cash cow, Byron and Rich better be ready to have the corporate executives breathing down the backs of their necks and reigning them in.

Chances are even with the massive amount of changes they had to make with this film, they'll be even more restricted now.
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>>83518663
>Soon the only mainstream films that will be making money will be either Disney properties or shit franchises like Furious 28 and Minions.

Open your eyes, the future is now.
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>>83518115
It was March/April thing.
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>>83518838
I think exactly this was the reason Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois moved over to Dreamworks.
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>>83519037
I think it is too.

Apparently Lasseter, who wasn't even a fan of Lilo and Stitch for some reason (and who campaigned in favor of Spirited Away over Lilo for the Oscar which, while SA is a better film -- pretty scummy to do to a fellow Disney-produced film), dropped Sanders when he refused to concede enough of his quirky "American Dog" idea.

The result we got was "Bolt" -- a good but extremely by-the-numbers, generic animated film (funny enough -- co-directed by Byron). But that is the kind of stuff that irks me about Disney, and the way people seem to suck them off and act like they can do no wrong.

Bullshit... all of it.
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>>83508114
VICTORY SCREECH
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Do you use a Zootopia wallpaper?
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>>83511329
>seen it 5 times, not interested anymore, but im Angry at the Birds for dethroning it from being the "biggest opener of the year" in my country.

>400 million dollar advertising budget

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=angrybirds.htm
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>>83519386
I could do
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>>83509608

>Minions has a 50% user rating

WHY THE FUCK DID IT MAKE SO MUCH MONEY
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>>83519719
Mom humor.
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>>83508114

STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM NOW WE HERE
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>>83519719

600 million dollar ad budget.
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>>83519719
Same reason Transformer films and Twilight films made so much money... while films like Edge of Tomorrow flopped... and Fury Road finished second to Pitch Perfect 2 domestically.

The general public has shit taste.
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>>83518997
Oh the one that said I'm gonna riot if they don't get together? shit that's probably the biggest poll I saw about it, never seen another one
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>>83516155

They got the tail wag game on fleek tho
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>>83519762
>>83519719
Basically this. I was on a plane a few days ago and of all the movies this fat middle aged woman sitting next to me, she chose minions. It's the older facebook generation that loves this, combined with the excessive branding and forced marketing campaign.

my mom loves them too because they are "cute"
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Not trying to make a "Le late to the party but yay xD" post, but fuck me this movie means so much to me and I'm so glad to see it make it to 1 B I L L I O N. It's been a while since anything has made me feel the way it does. /zoo/ kicks ass as well, makes me think of the /frz/ glory days. Thanks for jumping on this ride with me.



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