So who's feeling the feel's from the New Documentary
>>81461958Finnick was my favorite character so seeing him originally with a bigger role was heartbreakingOh, and that racism sucked too I guess
>>81461958Post rare Byrons
Wait, was the previous thread deleted? What the hell? It didn't even reach the bump limit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOK59IXZDR8>Byron's speech when Zootopia won the academy award
>>81461958I enjoyed it, very interesting idea for the 1.0 but too dark for a family movie.the animation stuff was cool.>>81462029topic was shit
This bun is cute!
>>81462029janitors don't want anything remotely furry on this boarddon't post shit that trashes threads
>>81461958You could say that. Shit, some of the early ideas were brutal.
Post songs that relate to Zootopia.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXZ49yzD4eo
>>81462102>>81462126the BD extras are gonna be a real treat
>>81462160I've been thinking this to actually. They have so much stuff they didn't use, I doubt they want it to go to waste.
>>81462160Have they confirmed that it'll have those? Also, any official release date?
>>81462095>Nick doesn't kiss herFucking BETA
>>81462097What exactly was it? A specific post? The OP? The nude Jude model predictions?
>>81462271Wow, just drop kick my feels.
>>81462081OH MY GOD IT'S THE SCOLERI FOX!
>It's another thread of depressing bullshit from the documentary Yeah, fuck this. I'll come back when you all got this shit out of your system
And I thought Zootopia was a feels train, but it's nothing compared to its first version...
>>81462307The OP, most likely. Not really a topic.
>>81462307These threads as a whole are a ticking time bomb that the janitors can remove for any reason they see fit.Luckily the documentary came out, so there's reasonable discourse to justify this thread.Just don't overstep.
>>81462368It just came out today, relax.
>>81462355This kinda reminds me of Finding Nemo. What if Wide, Sr. originally had more than one child?
>>81462395>they even bought him a booster seatGod imagine how crazy the degenerates would've went with this version of the movie
>>81462081>>81462126>>81462183>tfw if this movie had been made in the 80s or 90s by Don Bluth this is the version we would have gotten
>>81462371Only thing I like from the first is finnick having more of a role. Otherwise I'm glad it's gone. Besides being a lot more depressing it just feels much more blunt and heavy handed.And I wanna hug lil nick and tell him he's a cool cat and not just a predator. And not do anything lewd to him because childhood innocence is precious.
Is there a torrent of the documentary?
>>81462478>tfw the original movie is still semi-canon in that this is exactly what would happen if Bellwether had succeeded
>>81462520It's on YouTube, but I think it's unlistedSomeone has the link probably
>>81462520It's on youtube, you can just rip it from there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
>>81462463This could double as a screenshot from the tv series :^)
>>81462526>original movie>semi-canonIt's not canon at all.
>>81462579nutted but he still suckin . webm
>>81462579nice saved that one.
>>81462413Jesus this is some Animal Farm shit
i love nick
>>81461958>outREV OUT THOSE BITTORENT CLIENTS
>>81462579>That one derp face
>>81462725>feel his hot breaths on the nape of your neckHe's about to maul you, citizen! I hope you have your spray on you!
>>81462725Quit temping the mods.
>>81462725Oh, are we posting the 'Nick is perfect' greens?I JUST so happen to have them all saved!
>>81462392>Janitors are the prey animals who get to activate our shock collarTopical.
i haven't even begun to watch the documentary and it's already making me want to chug a beaker full of bleach
>>81462788post them pls
Should they make a comic adaptation of Zootopia 1.0?
Bunny is quick to recognize lewd
>>81462788No, we aren't.
>>81461958>>81460211>there is an alternate Zootopia where shock collars are a thing>Nick's dad "goes feral" trying to protect his son>ZPD had "no choice" but to put him down>Nick is frightened and angry but still tries to follow in the spirit of his old man>joins the Junior Ranger Scouts>muzzle_bitch.jpg>Nick's anger turns to resentment and hate>can never let it out because of the collar>it festers into silent rage>he's still as intelligent and smooth as ever>years later, a new social agitator/crime lord is rising in the underworld>known only as "Piberius">he's found a way to manipulate the collars>is carving out a private kingdom where his followers can live and play freely>it's on the verge of causing a civil war>only the newly inducted Officer Hopps realizes that's exactly what he wants>Zootopia is going to burn
>>81462102>talent show>an entire 10 minute sketchThat's cheating.
>>81462855Anon, honestly, do you really think we need it?
>>81462835And get the mods in here and ban me?Can do!
Did someone say husbando greentexts?>tfw you will never befriend Gideon>tfw you will never profess your love for Gideon after "accidentally" grabbing his hand at a town bonfire>tfw you will never console Gideon as he struggles with accepting himself for who he is>tfw you will never roll around in the hay with Gideon in his parents' barn and watch the stars through the cracks in the ceiling>tfw you will never marry Gideon in a rural church surrounded by your friends and family>tfw you will never mutually decide to adopt a child with Gideon>tfw you will never tearfully cling to Gideon for comfort the day your child goes off to college in the big city>tfw you will never grow old with Gideon on your country farm
>>81462804Would you trust your kid around someone who shops there?
>>81462725>ywn wake up next to nick>ywn hug nick and feel his soft, warm fur against youlife is pain
>>81462860That's what makes her such a good cop.She can actually smell the desire to hold hands.
On a less depressing note, could you imagine the level of shitposting and interspecies bantz there would be in Zootopia's equivalent of 4chan
>>81462126That is fucked.
>>81462911/pol/ would be insane
>>81462752>not outOP, WHERE IS IT?!?!?!?!?
>>81462015I'm so jelly that he got to see the original artwork for Robin Hood. Those would be amazing to see in person.
>>81462911What would their /int/ be called? /an/?>>81462948Here's the link from last threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
>>81462579I can see Vanellope in some of those faces
>>81462373I hope the blu-ray has more scenes with John Wilde, he seems like a legit nice guy. He's fairly smooth, has an inclusive mindset, and is trying to do right by his kid. Maybe a hint of what Nick himself would be like as a father.
>>81462925>>81463023Why is this getting deleted?
>>81463085I keep getting these stupid extra frames at the end
>>81463018Why not circlejerking sadness?
>>81462930Fuck I want a teaser of Zootopian 4chan now.
>>81463095its all ogre.
>>81463085What is it supposed to be?
>>81463095The Finnickfags have been awfully quiet since it was revealed that their beloved is a degenerate.
>>81463095NOBODY PANICITS ALL GONNA BE FINE
Friendly reminder that Byron Howard is a married gay guy and all you /pol/ homophobes jacked off to pictures that came out of his head, ergo making you sexually attracted to him by default.
>>81462911>An /int/ where every species gets their own flag>Preds calling prey pussies and prey calling preds cavemen needing muzzles>Insults of size, weight, skin type, fur color and so many other factors
>>81463139Not a Finnickfag-he's a shit-but he was clearly against it
>>81463135this >>81463138 but with a ghost frame at the end
>>81463139Maybe they decided not to be obnoxious faggots for once, but unlikely. Also their ship was sunk by Rich a few days ago so literally suicide watch
>>81463178>pretending to be against it to save face
>>81462271>>81462294>>81462326>>81462355>>81462413>>81462492>>81462606Seriously, WTF were the writers thinking when they came up with this? How could anyone think this would be entertaining for little kids?
>>81463171You don't need roundabout logic to make him attractive.
>>81463171And to think we all used to think he wanted to sex the rabbit, when he was really attracted to the fox!
You can get the documentary rip and all the concept art herehttps://mega.nz/#F!WlNlgSSK!faqX8T-nB6xNqaw59Wfttg
The more I think about it, the more I don't like how fast they blitzed through the last act. Like, you just had to keep it under a hundred and ten minutes that bad? Really?
>>81462371Prototype version a shit and everyone who said it was the better version
>>81462126>It's fully voicedhttps://youtu.be/D3pF9owYlRI?t=1465It's even more horrible than I imagined!
>>81462930zootopia /pol/ would have bellewether has a top waifu
>>81462157This is an early version Judy's attempted popsicle hustler insult from the film albeit with her being less whiny:https://youtu.be/D3pF9owYlRI?t=1697
>>81463256Wait, he's still Pygmalion for the bunny, isn't he?
>>81463232>Pixar helped changed Zootopia for the betterThat gives me some hope for their future
>>81463171Hey, if you want to have sex with women, you are attracted to something that in part came from another man. So there!
>>81463215Oh, I understand - I am too. I'm also glad that they didn't show him wearing a diaper in the film. Really, all that the diaperfag artists needed was the implication anyway. I just think it's fun to poke fun at people is all. >I'd rather it be kept on the DLNoice.
>>81463215Anyone gonna ask him why, or am I gonna have to do it?
>>81463171lmao jokes on you faggot i said no homo before i came
>>81463358Only if Judy has a secret penis.Jude the Dude!
1.0 is but a twisted Orwellian mockery! It is a festering, dying world! Not unlike a man who can live only through countless machines.There can be only one solution.TurnItAllOFFhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V81DlvZkxGE
Don't worry everyone!Just because Zootopia 1 had to drop all the dystopian elements, doesn't mean Zootopia 2 can't bring them all back.Since Zootopia is meant to be the actual utopia, I'm sure there are plenty of other cities where discrimination and preds having to wear shock collars is alive and well.Just think, Nick and Judy could be sent on a case to one of those cities and Nick could be forced to wear a shock collar just to enter!Surely the bleak nightmare of despair can still be born!
>>81463333>implying this is first draft Zootopia
>>81463018For some reason i enjoy writing all the things i'll never be able to do with nick even though it makes me sad>ywn walk with him through a quiet part of town while talking about random stuff>ywn lay out on the grass with him and look up at the stars>ywn comfort him while he remembers his childhood>ywn calm nick down by hugging him
>>81463391Ask him what?
>>81462413A disney film.Nananananaaaaaa
>>81463459>there is a possible chance he fantasized about being with Nick>possibly multiple times
>>81463454What everyone is thinking.
>>81462294>>81462271>>81462126>>81462081>>81462271>>81462294>>81462326>>81462355Jesus Christ, this is so fucked up. I am more than glad with what we got. This shit is depressing.
>>81463171I seriously have no problems with his sexual orientation nor do I give a shit either>yfw there might be some personal stories hidden away in the movie or deleted scene
>>81463459>implying Byron hadn't bought the BD Nick dildo weeks ago
>>81463490I would be weirded out if he didn't.
>>81463418Alternatively>Nick is framed for some horrible crime>is forced to wear the shock collar for everyone's safety>only Judy believes in him>they go on a rollicking adventure across the city to prove his innocence>movie is a character study between Hopps and Wilde>it also explores themes like lonliness, isolation, and acceptance
3rd Judy drawing. still trying to figure out how to torso and emotion.
>>81463459I can't be the only one who thinks of the spies from Rome: Total War when looking at this
>>81463493That it's all part of a costume for the scam?
>>81463517>Implying Byron didn't volunteer to be BD's low-key consultant on all Zootopia-based products
where's the colored version of this?
>>81461958Just got home from workWhat the fuck is this that I here about a "documentary"?
>>81463562I was thinking why he's into it, since he told us not to ask and all.But your question gets to the heart of the issue.
>>81463547>signed itAlready good. You're better than I am, so I can't offer any input really. But I do like it.
>>81463526Was anyone else a bit bothered by this scene in the actual film? The documentary even said they had to go on and on trying to perfect it, but...fuck idk.Why did Judy say all that shit? she was nervous? and why didn't Nick let her explain herself? idk that whole scene just irked me, it felt like a sort of rushed/forced way to cause a breakup between them for plot's sake, unless I'm just not seeing it
>>81463571>implying Byron hasn't drawn the knot hundreds of times by now
>>81463526>Finally a decent quality webm>It's this scene Fucking dammit, I don't wanna feel right right now
>>81463547Looks good. One bit though, her vest starts further down on her torso than right at the base of her neck. see >>81463358
>>81463418>Draft version of Zootopia is actually an alternate future where Bellwether succeeded in her race war scheme.
>>81463600Was that on Twitter? I don't remember it.
>>81463635>and why didn't Nick let her explain herself?It's not that he was confused by what she said. That's not the point. Like they said, it's a question of her trust for him. What she said showed him that at some level she really didn't.
>>81463665You're in good company, Anon. Never let them see that they get to you.
>>81463635No, you're right: it wasn't handled very well. Something more than just that flashback was needed to establish Nick's emotional response to Judy's Q&A.
>>81462977>they released it officially earlyImpressed.
>>81463635Judy was nervous and she was basically repeating what she heard from the doctor/scientist that was talking to the mayor in that facility.Nick was triggered from all of the photos of muzzled animals and called Judy out on still being uneasy enough to still carry around fox repellant.
>>81463289I just wanted to see what it could have been, but not at the cost of these feels
>>81463701>What she said showed him that at some level she really didn't.What level? Judy had all trust in Nick, didn't she? Judy didn't hate predators like bellweather, the things she said was not out of racist shit but wasn't it just nerves? Nick should have let her explain herself instead of going instantly frumpy. I really didn't get it
>>81463635Earlier in the movie it was established that Judy was automatically distrustful of foxes, despite all her speeches about tolerance and stuff.During the press conference she repeated the doctor's tentative suggestion because she herself totally bought into it. Nick already knew she distrusted his kind on some level thanks to the fox repellent. She confirmed how deep that went in her heart and saw zero issue with it.I do think it could have used work.
>>81463635She didn't even know she was going to be speaking right? Have you ever had to give a speech in front of hundreds, even dozens of people? It is easy to freeze up and say the wrong things, even when you've rehearsed. Considering she hadn't rehearsed at all, it makes sense that she would panic and start saying the wrong things.
>>81463635I'd say there isn't a single problem with the movie up until that scene.
>>81463777Deep down, she thought Nick might go savage. You don't really trust someone if you think they might stab you in the back
So anyone have the remove kebab bellwether edit?
>>81463232It was basically their first draft that they spent most of their time revising, and kept convincing themselves it would all work out in the end because they were pouring so much effort into the project. And then Pixar showed up and told them to cut that shit out, and they realized that they were really just fooling themselves into hoping the final product would be "more fun" as long as they kept altering it bit by bit.
>>81463635It bothered me at first, but after giving it some thought it works.Nobody was really in the right or the wrong this scene, it was emotion overriding everything resulting in the media blowing the top. Judy wasn't wrong by portraying the facts of the case, but she wasn't right either because there were better and more responsible ways to do it. Nick wasn't wrong for being pissed, after all people already didn't like him this would only make it worse not to mention all the bad memories, but he wasn't right either because he was blaming Judy despite it really not being her fault and knowing she isn't that kind of person.
>>81463635It's a scene to force the duo to hate split apart at the end of the second act to lead back into getting together and confronting the villain in the third act that has been such a shitty trope for buddy duo films and feels especially forced hereJudy is going by the same explanation the doctor researching the savage predators said, and she says it because the doctor has spent the most time studying them and no one else could give a better explanation. What really makes it feel forced is that one scene has her showing off her extended knowledge of plant life due to growing up on the farm but she has to go back to the farm to learn that night howlers make the animals go savage
>>81463800That scene and then everything afterwards kinda lacked, the plot was then way too rushed. like, right after the breakup gideon conviently gives away the entire plot then judy and nick are best friends again then the case is solved. the pacing was bad. although after watching the doc they were likely on a major time crunch which is why it probably happened
>>81463840>Walking into a black shop wearing black face
>>81463812No to mention she went for the spray when Nick mock threatened her.
>>81463840It seems like he was even smaller in the drafts than in the final version.Also, why would he have been walking around the shop like that?
>>81463837for all the shit we are giving pixar for losing their "magic" for the last five or so years.they sure helped Disney pull out a GOAT movie.they might have dodged a bullet here.
>>81463800>>81463785>>81463781>>81463747>>81463728>>81463701I'm glad you fucks are actually discussing this scene, the first time I saw the film I had no issues, but the second time...yeah I honestly felt it was REALLY fucking poorly done just for the sake of "we need drama quick"Nick should have let her speak instead of getting all offended instantly, ask her "why did you say all that shit?" Though Judy also said that she was "just stating the facts of the case" which was a really weird fucking line to me, almost out of character..I honestly expected "Oh no, that all came out wrong, didn't, it?" and Nick being upset but talking to her about what she said.Shit man idk
>>81463859I think you're correct with that. The theme was that nobody is perfect or immune to personal bias, so it made them both react without fully thinking it through.
>>81463213>>81463139>suicide watchmore like not caring, finnick is still cute, i'm still not into that shit (literally), i still ship him with whoever i wantit's not canon and it's not like he was enjoying it either way finnick love is as strong as ever anon.plus i've been posting pretty steadily but i have a job and i go to uni full time
>>81463899To establish the "he wants to be an elephant when he grows up" line. Nick is explaining it while Finnick waddles around being cute. All part of the hustle
>>81462855Before the collars.
>>81463907I still hate John Lassetter with the intensity of a thousand suns, but I have faith in Stanton, Docter, and Bird and anything they do.
>>81463840>instead of being casual and low profile, Nick acting grumpier and all out on deleted sceneSeems like it could be ruined his character introduction
>>81463879I get what you're saying, but no species is meant to equal a specific race.
>>81463872I dunno, I could absolutely believe disney thought a kids movie shouldn't approach two hours. They really needed, like, an extra ten to fifteen minutes put somewhere between the start of the interview and the climax, but I think that would've put the film at 2 hours on the dot.
>>81463863While I dislike the comparison to race, here it might illuminate it. Say the doctor theorized that blacks were criminal and violent because of their biology. Then you go up and say the exact same thing to the press. How would your token sidekick take it? What, you believe that stranger over your friend?
>nick suffering>moris suffering>finnick sufferingand why?>becauseonly a real sadist who hate animals would want that movie.
>>81463956I do like the animated John Wilde a lot more than the beefier concept art version. Him being sort of a proto-Nick works better imho.
>>81463418or maybe we could do something with the setting instead of another fucking dystopian YA novel. Jesus Christ go read Hunger Games or something.
>>81463909In the documentary they said that they re worked that scene many times, so maybe they should've just started from scratch.
>>81463943As long as you aren't that one annoying fucking cunt that bashes every other ship and glorifies Finnick like a fucking faggot then that's fine, I just know some people were assblasted when the ship was official sunk
>>81463909I'm just glad the friendship break-up didn't last too long.
>>81463960I liked him until I listened to the commentary on Cars 2. First time I've had to switch off a director's commentary, it was just him jerking off to how awesome he thought he was.
>>81463749Things get cut for a reasonSometimes"what could've been" is better off being just that
>>81464003Well it's mostly foxes getting shit on so I'd imagine it'd top the British box office
>41 minutes into documentary>Byron talking again>"I am a gay man, I've been married to my husband for 28 years"Oh hey he really is.Obligatory "not that there's anything wrong with that", I had just assumed Byron being gay was another meme; never thought he actually was.
>>81463909The "stating the facts of the case" bit was just because she trusted what she heard from that scientist. Nick was irritated quickly because Judy was probably the first person he ever told that story of what happened to him at the cub scouts, and despite having heard that story and knowing how deeply it affected him, she still told the press that predators may have a tendency to revert back to being savages.
>>81463859This.No one is perfect, situations like that can make you act like a fool.
>>81463909I got the impression that what really upset him was her reaching for the spray.her speech might have made him argue with her, but when she reaches for the spray is when he seems ultimately hurt.
>>81463909It's generally agreed that the movie gets kind of weak around the end.
>>81463859This, it's not about what was the right thing to do, it's "what would the characters do in this situation"
>>81464056I think we were all surprisedThe worst part was having to change all of our memes about him being in love with Judy
>>81463095This scene made me feel... weird
>>81464056The real reveal will be when he reveals he's been a furfag for 28 years.
>>81464045Challenge fucking accepted.But seriously, I will have to do that sometime. Man, I know he originated the company and all, but anything with this name on it that isn't Toy Story has been a disappointment or outright crap.
>>81464092Really only in pacing though. Which is just one part of amongst many.
>"I am a gay man, I've been married to my husband for 28 years"Post yfw
>>81462878Jesus, you're right. Nick 1.0's backstory was basically tailor-made to make him into a supervillain.
>>81463837Yeah, that happens a lot in writing. You get married to a draft and need unbiased eyes to tell you that you need to rework a concept.
>>81463909I know there aren't supposed to be any racial metaphors in the movie, but to me the line about it probably having to do with their biology is kind of like saying "a person committed a crime, likely due to their racial heritage."Its' a hugely backhanded comment to Nick, and then she sort of defends herself by saying "it's not like (my race) could ever do that"Storming out before she can reiterate is understandable, it just took them a while to talk it out again
>>81464117He could still be a little bi, just for Judy.Just like a lot of women who watched it.
>>81464152he looks like hes in his fucking 30s
>>81464161That would have made him being a good guy even more powerful.
>>81464154>5 seconds inIm not listening to this.
>>81464164That's a good way to put it.
>>81464090>>81464092>>81464071>>81464044>>81464019With how chill Rich is about answering tweets I can't believe no one has asked him to elaborate or go into some details about the scene, kinda like to see what he thought about it ultimately and how the official movie devs explain what went on. I mean it's obvious what happened, but it felt so fucking rushed and out of character. It'd be nice to know how Rich would explain what went on in Judy and Nick's head during that scene, why she said what she said ( was it just nerves or is she legit thinking that preds are all becoming savage again) and why Nick didn't give her the time to explain herself.SOMEONE ASK HIM. I'm sure it's a nice change of pace from the 10,000 nick x judy tweets he gets all day
>>81464128>Byron has always loved animal movies>One of the earliest ones he talks about a lot is Robin HoodHasn't that already been established?
>>81464190I have the same younger than I look thing. I'm 32 and I look about 25, it sucks.
>>81464141>imagining Tiny's deep black voice for that sceneHoly shit>there's an alternate universe where it existsFucking christ
>>81464227>It'd be nice to know how Rich would explain what went on in Judy and Nick's head during that sceneTo be fair, it was really obvious what they were thinking. The animators and VAs did a good job of that
>>81464227Dude, we already know the answer:>>81463859
>>81464227It's been a while so I don't remember the exchange verbatim but I feel like the reporters asked a few leading questions that dug her into a hole
>>81464266H-Hot???(please don't judge me)
>>81462878And then it turns into the plot of Judge Dredd and Judy has to put him down to maintain law.
>>81464272>it was really obvious what they were thinkingWhat were they thinking? if it's obvious, let us know?>>81464274No, that's what you THINK is the answer, I want the official word
>>81464230>furfags are beginning to enter the jobs with real power in the animation industryThe revolution is beginning. The next few decades will be the golden age of movies featuring anthropomorphic animals. It will culminate in the release of a dark, not-for-kids anthro film. Furfags across the globe will rejoice.
>>81464320What, you want me to break it down frame by frame?
>>81464147No, not just pacing. The entire concept of the third act breakup is just so tired and trite, and they rushed through it really quickly and the reasons for it are about as heavy handed as possible. It was so bland and tensionless, and sped past so quickly that it feels like it's only there because buddy movies are supposed to have that as a story beat.
>>81463956What is with anons and not saving the proper file names?'Maintaining Your Image'
>>81464311you can't stop mefaggot
>>81461958Where can I read the original script(s)?
>>81464227Wasn't Doug the ram reporter that baited her into answering the way she did?
>>81464347she fuckin cute af. sucks she got cut
Thread theme at this point. Everyone is feeling a little remorse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCi7NMOSUic
>>81464307I actually remember exactly where it starts going downhill; the reporters ask what's causing it, and she says they don't know. The reporters get all disappointed and some start turning to leave, and she panics, and I think that's when she mentions that it might be biological. She can't stand letting anyone down, so she absolutely has to have an answer and throws out the only theory she's heard so far; the one from the doctor earlier in the movie. A lot of people complain about the scene but I think it's fine, honestly.
>>81464376>all sheep are the same sheepthats racist as fuck anon
>>81464356If it helps you, sure. I just want to know what they were thinking exactly and why that scene happened how it happened
>>81464347>voiced by Whoopi Goldberg
>>81464339>>81464230It makes me wonder if Byron's ever anonymously posted "fan art" of characters from the films he's worked on to Furaffinity or DA.
>>81464370I don't think anywhere. We're just going off of concept art and what the crew said.
>>81464384>same chubby level as Gideon>"Oh Anon, it isn't okay to like Gideon">"Wow, look at that honey badger, boy she's cute!"mfw
>>81464367Fuck it, worth it
>>81464405Well, do all sheep look like Doug, or does Doug look like all other sheep?
>>81464227Early in the movie it's established that she internally holds some bias towards predators despite the fact that she actively tries to not be biased. She's reluctant to take the fox spray from her parents, but then she double takes and grabs it anyway because deep down she stereotypes predators to be more violent than prey.Is the break up scene kind of forced? Yeah, but I don't think anything Judy said was out of character.
>>81464384At the very least, her model ended up being the doctor studying the feral animals for Lionheart
>>81464376That would be an interesting twist.>>81464384The one concept looks like she works at a TGIFriday's, I really like the look of the design on the right, though.
>>81464347I have such a hard fucking time believe all those shots are of the same character, my dick is literally all over the place with this one.
>>81464433nigga who the fuck said i didnt like gideon
>>81464152Where was gay marriage legal 28 years ago?
I really wish we could have the darker, edgier zootopia with all the collars.I understand the themes wouldn't end up being subtle but I think seeing Nick as a neurotic amusement park owner having the everliving shit beat out of him through the course of the story make for a really good movie with tons of feels.Not that the one we have now is bad. I just wish we could unleash the animators and let a blend of family friendly and more adult genres exist.
>>81462641I ironically found this video entertaining
>>81464529>1988Somewhere between impossible and improbable
>>81464505Kek, you read my mind. Fuckin' saved.
>>81462355>>81462373I hope the prequel comic is about Nick and his dad trying to get "SUITOPIA" off of the ground. They don't even need the collars for it, just the prejudice towards them for being foxes:https://youtu.be/D3pF9owYlRI?t=2024I know the Ranger Scout bit gets a lot of praise, but this could've been a much more compelling origin story and would've really fleshed out his issues with authority, particularly with the police since a cop had tried to have him arrested due to a complete misunderstanding.
>>81464438So glad they didn't keep the diaper in.>probably would have had no detail in the landing strip print>no detail on the leg gathers>no leak guards>minimal poof>probably would have even been cotton
>>81463859Yeah, which again is something really rare in these kind of stories, where you have a fight that's a huge ugly REAL mess.
>>81464513My apologies, brother. I didn't recognize you as a fellow believer.
>>81462153Not a song, but a little speech that's basically the moral of the movie in a slightly more cynical light:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUVrnj16BmE
>>81464619It felt more like what people really say during a fight. It's not smooth, it's just harsh, biting emotional words.
>>81464046Curiosity killed the cat or in this case the fox
>>81464628I still haven't found any good cute Judy x Gideon art. Any anons want to help me out?
>>81464376All the reporters were goading her anon and twisting her wordsInterestingly Bellwether quickly pulled her away when the paranoia started
>>81463996The scientist studying them couldn't come to any other possible reasons and no one else could come up with any other reasonsIt was the best explanation she could have come up with but at the very least, she could have just said that it was the conclusion the doctor studying them saidHell, there might be a chance Bellwether told her to say it considering she had been trying to push the city to support controlling the predators
so how come judy faces no repercussions for starting a race war
Where would they go for a honeymoon?
>>81464505Top is best though. Bitch be strong.
>>81462126Jesus thats terribleI love itHonestly, the movie's moral wouldnt have been so mundane if they had gone this route. Im also not sure it would have tanked either, such a bold approach during this Trump and OscarSoWhite atmopshere would have made it pure captial
>>81462271So, so sad.That being said, I can't help but laugh at the opaque glasses that make him look like a pimp.
fuck off nick is mine
>>81464750Yes, and thats probably why she did it. The point though, is that if she trusted Nick, she would have given predators the benefit of the doubt. At least, that's what Nick was thinking.
Fuck all that spotify junk. Here's the real Nick x Judy song :3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYbDjwBe2Y
>>81464603I don't need these thoughts right now anon.
>>81464795go to sleep byron
>>81464795Byron pls go
>>81464019Anonymous, Dystopian YA novels are fucking shit at providing adequate suffering and despair.They're wish fulfillment for young adults who want to believe the world is shitty in over the top ways.Racism and bigotry is far more grounded and delicious.
>>81464795Sorry, Byron, we didn't mean to offend you.
no you nerd nick is minefug off
Webm/video of bridge scene?
>>81462478One can dream
>>81462066>>81462081>>81462102>>81462126>>81462199>>81462223>>81462246>>81462271>>81462373>>81462395>>81462413>>81462492>>81462525i would love if we got that instead. Don't get me wrong , Zootopia was great but that looks like the better movie.
>>81464765That oasis palm resort thing in Sahara square. Looks fucking awesome
>>81464813>>81464816>>81464826>3 separate anons immediately post the same response
>>81464721Probably didn't want Judy to try and clarify or fix anything. It was a smart move.
>>81463289Just remember guys, this is what you asked for. You couldn't shut up about how much "better" the Savage City version would have been based just on some concept art and creator quotes, and now you know the truth. Are you happy now?
>>81464757It wasn't her intent to do that -- if anything, the media whipped up the frenzy.
>>81464757Mayor Bellweather was backing her strongly, since Judy had just accidentally furthered her cause a great deal and was in a perfect position to be a useful pawn.
>>81464765Someplace underwater. It's all mammals right? Well Dolphins and Whales are mammals too, there must be an underwater city somewhere.
>>81464750Wonder why she didn't propose that it could have been spread through contact since the panther was mauled by Otterton before he went savage too.
>>81464757Because she solved it. She's a hero and a real human bean
>>81464866What is that pic referencing? Also, no I'm not happy. I'm butthurt that I was wrong about thinking that the original version would be better.
>>81464807don't talk to me or my husband ever again
>>81463837>>81464164>>81463907>>81461958It's like the opposite of the Sweatbox.
>>81464505I would the purple version.>tfw your /pol/-tier honey badger waifu will never be real
>>81464817This. I personally hope the sequel has Nick and Judy going through hell together just so that their eventual victory is all the sweeter.
>>81464866I'd have been fine with Zootopia 1.0I know that people are all "but it's too bleak and cartoonish and there's no reason for Nick to stay in the end"But the reason to stay is to not lose. Not lose to the shitty world, not just give up and be a cynic coward or a pessimist asshole. To fight against despair. To reach the happy ending or die trying.To die in glory fighting against fate, or to grab your happy ending.
>>81464927>oppositeBut both of them started with one premise and had to salvage something out of it which turned out to be way better than what they were going for.
>>81463541I like it.Fund it!
>>81464854I don't think there was anything Judy's could've said or done that would've made that turn out any differently at that point.
>>81462373This one gets me the most.I swear, 1.0 would have been the clinic scene from up stretched out over an hour and 48 minutes.
I'm at Disney Land and all I can think of is a Zootopia extension
>>81464866>>81464953Here's to you, Judy and NickRest forever here in our heartsThe last and final moment is yoursThat agony is your triumph.
>>81464845In my opinion, I do like the dystopian style and the happy ending would have been sweeter but I have a feeling the social commentary would have been more in your face, plus it wouldn't have resonated as well with audiences and critics
>>81462271>>81462294I know Fru Fru almost getting crushed on her wedding day was pretty nasty, but this?This seems like a much more awful deal.Man, if the law wanted me to put electrodes on my kids, I'd go full criminal right then and there.
>>81464971>Actually, forget what I said, I'm just a meter maid
>>81464920It's part of a comic where after Judy searches for pics of either herself or Zootopia on the internet, she decides to end it all.>>81464965>>81464961Infinitely less bitterness.
I just hope they could've handled Bellwether's reveal better in here. Her showing up out of nowhere in the empty museum with ram was fucking contrived. Even Judy and Nick didn't feel suspicious at all before realized it.Maybe if there was a scene to establlish Bellwether's reveal in the museum didn't feel suspicious at all, it'll affect to audiences more just like Turbo reveal
This documentary. I have no words for it. I dont know how to feel. I dont know what to do.
I could be fine with the original script, however, the plot would have to be not reforming the city. Fuck the city. The plot is getting out of the city. The film ends with Nick and Judy driving off into the sunset and leaving this craphole behind
>>81465010>Unlikely hero: Meter maid discovers horrible truth
>>81465047It's also a parody of a comic from the Escapist where two of the characters do that same pose with a gun in the last panel.
>>81464997Such lust for hustling.
I mean I think 1.0 could have worked, but it's a moot point as we all know there's zero chance that the suits at Disney would push out some Plague Dogs tier emotionally devastating shit from their studio.I don't even think Don Bluth would intentionally twist the knife that much.
>>81465050I just want more backstory for her. Just being "racist and evil just cause lol" feels lazy and uninspired
>>81465060is that whoopi as honey badger
>>81462579It's crazy the amount of bones are in disney's judy rig. This is as close as I could get to her worried face with that anon's 3d rig.
>>81465140I think so
>>81464795>>81464813>>81464816>>81464826>>81464853"It's okay, anons. I just...I just fell down some stairs."
>>81465125True enough.I mean fuck, I take great pleasure in watching a small boy suffer PTSD of his hometown being bombed while enemy soldiers literally discover his hiding hole. I'm clearly not the average movie goer.
>>81464854Bellwether didnt get much in terms off character, but behind the scenes she was pretty devious.And soooooo soft
>>81465135Remember the sheep girl who got her tickets stolen by Gideon before Judy won them back?Something like that but without anyone to stand up for her so she just goes along with being bullied and building resentment.
>>81465163Something charming about that low ass resolution texture.
>>81465060Imagine being the people making the movie. Imagine having to work in that vacuum of depression for 3 years and still being two years away from finishing it.
>>81465165they posted feel good scenes too right...? RIGHT??They didn't fill the entire documentary with sadness did they? Where are the happy ending scenes?
>>81465165I don't need this tonight, anon
>>81465165I wonder if that's an incomplete model or if he really did get his hands amputated
>>81464591>your slave collar is ruining your life, tell dad for comfort>dad goes from joking to telling you sometimes life feels like it's not worth it>tries to take it back and starts crying>dad's tears are falling on your face as he tries not to break down>yfw
>>81463095The audio clip makes it even funnier.
>>81465060Why do I feel I would've liked prototype "suburban dad" Clawhauser more than actual Clawhauser
>>81465140Yes, it is -- THERE'S a bullet dodged!
>>81465140Thank heavens that got cut. Terrible idea for a VA.
>>81465205There is no happiness in this Zootopia.
>>81465125Since some people would have see Zootopia as a metaphor of America, the movie would have be interpreted as a "FUCK USA WE GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS SHIT HOLE!" and so that would not be a success in the Box Office.
>>81461958All this "muh feels" and an hero warnings are just memes, right?If not, then did anyone else not feel anything, and should I be concerned that I didn't?
>>81465135seeing how Lionheart treated her like shit throughout, no wonder she has hatred towards the predators. Her motivation was more subtle but it was understandable
>>81465140>Whoopi voicing a dyke badger who is also an anti-sheep conspiracy theorist.I'd buy it.
>>81465212I wouldn't put it past the people who thought of Zootopia V1.They were the original grimdarkfags.
>>81465205Finnick getting electrocuted was pretty funny.
>there are people ITT who think Bellwether was evilDawn did nothing wrong
>>81465237why you gotta do me like that Byron?
>>81462938this film fucked my shit upreally wish these threads would stop joining in
>>81465199>"After the first eight or nine interns hanged themselves we decided to change direction on the film and make it a bit more upbeat."
man. even the tigers were forced to wear themIs that why they went feral for real?
>>81465205>Zootopia was going to be furry Schindler's List>no fun allowed>Nick's life sucked>Judy was a bitch>Byron is gay>my wife's son is fat
>>81465241You do not express as much feelings as others do.
>>81462579most adorable thing i've seen all day
>>81465306Gazelle looks pretty sinister here. Maybe she was a villain in some of the earlier drafts. Perhaps her music was triggering the attacks.
>>81465205There's the concept art of Nick saving Judy and the hug, but aside of that it's pure suffering.
>>81465279Preach it friendo
>>81465199>tfw FUCKING SEVEN writers that write the story of the movie
>>81465241>If not, then did anyone else not feel anything, and should I be concerned that I didn't?you watched the documentary right? Nick getting bullied emotionally by the collars and physically by cops? If yes, then maybe. That shit is fucked up
>>81465311>bryon is gay in the original zootopia conceptKek
>>81465205We got Nick in a doctor's coat
>>81465135Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Aw, I thought it was out tommorrow. I gotta miss this general. See ya.
Why DID Lionheart call her Smellwether?
>>81465353>the rewrite was actually demanded by Shakira so Gazelle wouldn't be the villain.
>>81462066could you imagine if this software was available for porn?
>>81462776>>81462579I think that's from when they still wanted to get her tranq'd at some point.
>>81465393was there another script that didn't include Wild Park? Why would Nick become that?
>>81465212>"At this point in the first draft the despair was palpable: the tragic origin story with his father was concluded with visions of police brutality, he's been framed for a crime he didn't commit, his dream amusement park is cordoned off and consigned, his office confiscated, and now that he's been put through the wringer on the way to the precinct we weren't sure where to go from there.">"So we cut his hands off."
>all those nick greentexts
>>81465418This is basically what you missed.
>>81465199>You're working in development>Sitting there in the writer's room>"What if we saw something like Morris's bar mitzvah? That could be interesting.">You see the animatic that was shown in the doc>"THAT ISN'T WHAT I MEANT"
>>81465431This sounds almost Dreamworks-tier. Glad they polished the script more.
>>81465437>>81465418don't watch it... just stay as you are nowplease, for me
>>81462015>has to put on glovesSurprised he didn't have to put on condom to keep from jizzing all over it.
>>81465449A run down doctor's office was the secret entrance to the park
>>81465193>Everyone always obsessing on how different the movie would be and how better things would be if Judy had been Nick's friend in his time of need>Actually Judy would have made the world a better place if she was friends with Bellwether
>>81465387It didn't make it into the final draft, but Word of God made it canon.
Am I the only guy in here that doesn't want to fuck anything from this movie?
>>81465517Probably.There must be something wrong with you.
>>81465517Yes. I'm afraid you missed the point of the movie, Anon.
>>81465420Because it's the really stupid digs that get under your skin the most.
>>81465517No, since who wants to fuck mammals.
>>814654311/10th my soul for the rest.
>>81465517Of course you are not the only one who is not a fucking idiot in an anonymous website who is only there for saying stupid shits because no name except Anonymous.
>>81465451The funny thing is, I can actually imagine this ordeal happening during development.>Disney guy #1: (asking a rhetorical question) "How can we possibly take anything else from Nick and his life?">Disney guy #2: (foaming from mouth) "CUTHISHANDSOFF CUTHISHANDSOFF"
>>81465517No, I have no interest in fucking any of the charactersBut tenderly loving? That's another story
>>81465517I feel literally nothing for Nick and Judy in that way, however this sultry whore on the other hand..oh lord have mercy
>>81464893This. I thought that's what caused it first time I watched the movie.
>>81465517I just want Nick and Judy to be happy together, anon. Zootopia transcended porn into cute.
>>81465553Scalies eunt domus.
>>81465467For some it is "I want but I know I will never get it please kill me"
>Thousands of years ago the world was a different place>A place...>...where everbody was naked!I actually like this introduction better
>>81465517Gazelle is pretty much human, why not?
>>81463095I think his old persona was better. Hell, I believe he showed more character in that clip than he did the actual movie.
>>81465431>Plenty of names for them, too>Wood-whacker>First 10 minutes is just Nick giving derogatory names to prey
>>81465594THE WORLD WAS A BETTER PLACE BACK THEN
>>81465594Same. Also that introduction had kid finnick and i'm all about that
>>81465473>You're a man now, son. Here's your state-mandated shock collar. Just a fair warning, it gets a lot worse from here.
>>81465212if you look closely , his hards are clipping trough the gown
>>81463760I still loves when Bogo yells at her for "inciting a scurry".
>>81462271>YOU HAVE EXCEEDED YOU DAILY JOY ALLOWANCE>ENJOY YOUR DISCIPLINE SHOCK, CARNIE!Yeah, little too much.
>>81465500>Double dubs confirm>This is the version that will never exist
i want to give nick a bath
>>81463840>that's specist <ding>
>>81462579Wait a minute,ALL THE FACE EXPRESSIONS ARE ANIMATED ON COMPUTER?!?NO PERFORMANCE-CAPTURE?!?!?
>>81465611>better voice>funnier lines>more lines>wore a diaperLiterally better in every way.
>>81465642That's happened to me before and spoiler warning it didn't last forever.Take this time to be as productive as you can.
>>81465500Bellwether is a sociopath and therefore doesn't have real friends. She gave Judy her "friendship" as soon as she met her, and that is as deep a tie as Judy would have ever had to someone like Bellwether.
>>81465648What would you wash first?
>>81465611They wanted to contrast his cuteness with Tiny's voice for a quick joke since he was basically phased out of the final movieBut yeah, his quick talking and movements would be much more fun to watch
I feel like version 1.0 makes it too clear cut with the majority/minority. I much prefer the happier much subtler version we got.
Can someone post the webm of Judy throwing the dollar on the table?I love the tiny details in that one
>>81465517In all likeliness? Yes.
>>81465686His paws, he's got some meme on them.
>>81465639It probably just measured their heartbeat and administers a shock if it goes too high, the kid was too excited and got shocked
>>81465667Yes. Gazelles dance number wasn't mo-capped eitherThey do record the voice actors as they do their lines as reference though
I want to hug_ Nick tenderly.
>>81465667>tfw that era of animation died with Mars Needs MomsAnd nothing worth caring about was lost
>>81465682Keep waiting brother
>>81465517No, people don't usually have to say "I don't want to fuck that animal" out loud, so nobody writes a comment either
>>81465710I need a webm of just that small section of her.p..please
>>81465724Jesus, imagine that. They wouldn't even be able to exercise or procreate without being punished
>>81465629>Just a fair warning, it gets a lot worse from here.heh.>>81465636If [scenario] WE SCURRY!
>>81465442It is. Nobody's going to put the effort in to actually use it.
>>81465680>implying she was born that way>She didn't just need someone to share her bottled up emotions with
>>81464591Hell man, you can have both. Why do you think Nick's mom had to scrimp to get him a uniform? Dad's big business venture flopped.
>>81465753I hope you realize they would be the most likely animal to cause the Zootopia version of 9/11 right?
All these scalies should go start a Rango thread or something.
>>81465695Only the gif anon, sorry.
>>81464806Got anymore suggestions?
>>81465787Well at least I'll have my SFM animations.
>>81465667Performance capture is the poor man's CG. None of the major animation studios (Disney, Pixar, Dreamworks, Blue Sky, etc.) use it because it's not "real" animation.
>>81465816The way her hat bounces is adorable!
>>81465816>that little paw splat
>>81465682>>81465753Posting superior class
>>81462526You mean like a dark furutre kind of thing?
>>81464691Exactly. It feels weird because fights sound weird when you're not in the heat of the moment. "Why didn't Nick calmly listen to Judy explain herself?" because he was fucking angry! >>81464721Yeah, Bellwether didn't want her future hero cop to look totally incompetent. She got what she wanted.
>>81465517I would say me but I'm not a guy, you're alone there buddy
>>81465804Rango has mammals in it though.
>>81465792Bellwether probably picked up her ravenous hatred of predators when she went to liberal arts college and decided to take it a step further.
>>81465804While I'm pretty sure reptiles could live fairly easily in Zootopia, I don't think mammals would survive so good in a reptile-centric city.It's either marsh forests or deserts. Half the population would be poisonous.
>>81465781>Zootopia literally turned my life aroundGlad I'm not the only one.
>>81465762>I need a webm of just that small section of her.>p..pleaseHere you go. Best cat.
>>81465517i don't want to
>>81465763maybe that was the plan, make sense difficult, pred numbers go down, they start becoming more detached from the rest of society, a smaller and smaller minority that has fewer interactions with the rest of the city, going from "that family next door" to "that guy I sometimes see on the way to work" to "Who?" and the whole way none of the prey care, since it doesn't affect them, there's no outright evil like them being rounded up, it's just a natural result of low birth rates. And then in a hundred years when the few remaining preds try to get the collars removed, no one will stand with them, because "those collars kept you civilized, which let us build this great city"
>>81465854Why would she look incompetent, as far as the public knows she solved the case all by herself.
>>81463635The devs ran out of time, I think. If anything it was a natural scene with Judy being oblivious to her own biases and Nick being a cry baby. And I emphasize on Nick being a cry baby.Nick perfectly knew Judy was from the burrows and he could have been more understanding. Clearly, Judy didn't mean what she said. Also, he's been discriminated all his life. Why would Judy's opinion hurt him so much? Maybe its cause he really really likes her.
>>81465682Tick-tock>>81465517no.>>81465561I could see that as being the point where some of the story people and animators justy don't care how bleak the movie got. There was probably one storyboard that included something like Nick and Judy eloping only for them to fade from existence as "the ancient, forsaken God awakens from his slumber and all Zootopia fades into a memory of a dream. Also, Judy realizes she never was really a police officer and Nick never got his collar off."
>>81465880>He want the thread to be deleted
>>81465889You're a saint anon. .25 speed is going to improve this dramatically..for science
Has the penis during the train ride already been discussed?
>>81465517i don't think i count but i just want to hug finnickhe's for nick anyway
>>81465920Are you a faggot? I could do much worse if I wanted that, and there's like 400 posts about wanting to kiss Nick or rub his belly or whatever other gay shit
507 replies and still on page 1Wat
>>81465763you don't have to imagine ithttp://nicolaswildes.tumblr.com/tagged/Zistopia-AU
>>81465875Not to mention all the germs. You would have to wear rubber gloves pretty much everywhere.
Can someone link the docu?
>>81464817Why yes, my dear /a/fag, that was my point! Well spotted.
>>81465921godspeedIt'd be great if we could get interpolation on it to keep the animation smooth looking.
>>81465931>penisnothing look alike sort of thing, you're just having dirty thought
>>81465157re-rendered with different camera and light settings.
>>81465576her voice was fucking hot in my local dub.wew.
>>81465931Ah, nice to see the tradition is still alive
FYI: Assistant Mayor Dawn Bellwether is actually a transgender Character. A wether is a male sheep that is castrated before maturity to prevent it from breeding the ewes. A bellwether is a wether used to lead flocks of sheep.Because of their castration, wethers more closely resemble females rather than males in adulthood.
>>81463418>Zootopia: Imperfect paradise.Next mega city over>Farmopolis: Barely function social shit hole.
Deepest lore is coming!
>>81465933>grown ass man>wearing a diapertop kek
I like the movie we got but I wish they would have kept Nick's dad in. Anyone have the comic of him teaching Nick how to tie a tie?
>>81466021>transgenderfuck off to tumblr
>>81465954Life is hell for AU Nick
>>81465954despite being predominantly edgy, getting the happy payoffs from this helps with all this documentary sadness
>>81465187Exactly, Bellwether wouldn't be nearly as effective a villain if she was that obvious. And what we got of her was pretty great, I loved that little smirk at Judy's death scream.
>>81466066NOW IF WE'RE TALKING BODY
>>81465165>predators are on a 3 strike system>after strike three they're sterilized
>>81466014Half the skyscrapers in Zootopia look like they came out of Bad Dragon's catalog.
>>81463635Because she's an idiot and regergitatated information she heard off hand. Perhaps abit of it was beliefs she held as well to some small degree.The sensationalist press led her around like she had a collar.
>>81466076God..look at him. He just makes me wanna take off his collar and hug him
>>81466159>you will never hug Nick
>>81465187damn, it was more subtle than I thought
>>81466121Why do you know that?
>>81466180We're too far gone, aren't we.
>>81466159I wonder if another reason they dropped the collars is because didn't want kids getting the wrong idea about their pets' collars. When a dog wears a collar they see it as a symbol of pride because it represents their being a part of their master's pack, and more importantly it keeps them from getting lost because it has their ID on it. A kid watching the movie wouldn't really understand that though, and all they'd know is that in the movie they were putting collars on the predators to be mean to them.
>>81465905Because she was bumbling like an idiot in front of the press. If it had gone on longer who knew what would've come out of her mouth, and she already said what Bellwether was hoping she'd say.
>>81466211That is the cutest fucking thing.
>>81466206We're on 4chan is why. Stick around long enough and you see some shit.
Just imagine...>A bulk of Nick's backstory from ProtoTopia could still be canon>Nick doesn't like to talk about his past a lot>Judy presses and he finally tells her about the time the police beat his ass in when he was six while his dad could only helplessly watch>Judy has a massive sad now>"See, this is why I don't talk about my past. I think Bogo tried to hang himself when he learned what happened to my dad."
>>81466211PET FOXES ARE TERRIBLE PETS DON'T EVER GET ONE FAGGOT FUCK YOU™Now here's a cute pet fox for you to see :3
>>81465875>poisonousITS VENOMOUS YOU FUCKING TROGLODYTEVENOM IS INJECTEDPOISON IS INGESTEDSNAKES ARE NOT FUCKING POISONOUS
>>81466235It's a shame foxes stink though
>>81466215>you will never snuggle with Nick>you will never comfort him or make him feel better>you will never make him feel safe, secure, appreciatedIt hurts
>>81463635Well, people get touchy when their first real friend in a long time says something hurtful.
>>81466181I keep seeing this, what's it from?
>>81466276Nick should be complaining about stereotyping WHILE picking the lock, 6/10.
>>81466270I know he isn't real...so why does this hurt so much?
>>81466256I would buy a fox except I already have one living in my yard, and they can be a bit territorial. They're also expensive and I can't afford another pet right now. I'll just admire the wild one from a distance and resist the urge to feed her dog treats.
>>81466290Pre-rewrite, it's him getting his collar off for the first time.
>>81463777Yes, never mind that their relationship was built on blackmail and intimidation.
We all the stuff we learn from this documentary, I'm actually convinced that Judy is the only reason for Nick to have optimism and smile, platonic or couple, that doesn't matter.
>>81466220>Because she was bumbling like an idiot in front of the press.No? She wasn't that all. Negligent sure, but the last thing I'd call her press conference was stupid.The press was the one who made it worse with their use of yellow belly journalism
WAIT! ISN'T THIS SUPPOSED TO BE ON TOMORROW WHAT DID I MISS?!?!?!?!
>>81466298and now I'm imagining...>"What, you think just because I'm a fox, I'll know how to pick that lock?">"Uhh... Well-">"I made a mold of the keys and got my own forgery for this place back when I was sixteen. Give me SOME credit- Oops, those are my fake keys to the mayor's office. Ah, right one."
>>81466355The documentary was leaked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
>>81466325They were genuine friends by then, though? Who cares how it started? she wouldn't have given him the partner sheet to sign up if she didn't trust him
>>81466211I didn't know foxes made that sound.
>>81466375It wasn't leaked though, was it? That was posted by the company that made it.
>>81466355SUFFERINGAlso an interesting look at how Disney makes animated movies
>>81466318But where is it from?It's been around from before the documentary
>>81466386You mean you didn't know what the fox says?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
>>81466355the re-invigoration of the 'muh sun city' guys. Funbun guy's vanished off the face of the earth so there's no reason to be here every day, maybe I should take a few off until the misery porn calms down.
>>81465753Dirty dumb reptilian scum.
>>81466312because we are lonely and want someone to hold. Nick is perfect since he is loveable, fluffy, and wouldn't mind being comforted.;_;
Zootopia V1 Nick has been teleported to our world.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMykQDJ90kI
>>81466211I could watch videos of these people playing with their pet foxes all day but if I'm not careful I'll probably end up doing something stupid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0ORyDfExE
https://youtu.be/pHZm52nvBB4 Kinda relevant
>>81466211Man, pey foxes are fucking adorable
>>81465907It was just a continuation of the 'never let them see they got to you' thing, where he did slip up and show she got to him.
>ywn give Nick "brushies"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB2wXElvhlQ
>>81464347I like the thin one. Wait, how the hell can she be a conspiracy theorist when she already lives in a big brother policy state with mood enforcing shock collars?! That's not a conspiracy 'theorist' at that point, that's just someone aware of their surroundings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92wtDKCtOiUcuutefoxes a cuuuuute
>We /an/ now
>>81466573Why can't Judy handle the bantz?
Wow, seeing a lotta hate for the third arc of (final)Zootopia floating around this thread.Well, more than the usual.
Does this look like the face of mercy?
>>81466548The conspiracy is that the sheep are behind it, as opposed to the incredibly depressing reality that it's a policy supported by the majority of people in the town and their elected officials reflect those opinions.Basically pretending that there is a conspiracy to avoid having to admit that most people view her as one provocation away from killing people and support keeping predators collared.
>>81465931Thanks for completely ruining one of my favorite scenes from the train ride.
>>81466415rfom some interviews very early on
>>81466532dat ocelot's groans was like hearing hell
>>81466611>third arcWasn't it JUST the press scene that people hated? Nick's graduation, the cop car scene, Judy back home and meeting Gideon, the end concert with their loving looks, all that shit was gold.I loved the ending act, just not the press scene itself, it was too rushed
>>81466611Well at least we are not circlejerk and we can still be critic toward the movie even if we love it.Personally, I have no problem with the third arc, but I'm agree it could have be written better than what it is now.
>>81466375Well this changes everything>>81466411Thats what I like to hear.>>81466455Don't know what this means but I suppose I will soon.
>>81466206>4cnah.org>not being already subscribed for a monthly deliver from BD
>>81466556i would go every fucking weekend. >>81466643the purring tho
>>8146653200:36that was a straight up sheep noise
>>81462447YOU ARE A BIG BROTHER
>going to GameStopBut what did he buy
>>81464529It wasn't illegal. It simply wasn't recognized as a legal marriage.
anyone good at drawing mind helping me with this Judy before I commit?I dont necessarily want her to be on model but some corrections to make her look more like Judy would be appreciated
>>81466673>BD monthly deliveryDo they actually do this?
>>81466692Conker's Bad Fur Day
>>81466692Waifu Simulator 3 probably
>>81466556I live in Japan. I must find this place. JACKPOT!
FUCKING DEGENERATESJUDY AND NICK'S LOVE IS PURE
>>81462371>>81463289>>81465199>>81465216I told you. Protozootopia is a nightmare.
>>81466337damm I wanted to make something like this, guess I can still make it different.
>>81466692Space Station Silicon Valley because he wants to be something else than a predator.
>>81466648Yeah the press conference was a thinly veiled "mandatory third act misunderstanding" and that seems to be in pretty much every animated movie. It could have been handled better, and it could have been handled worse. I think what bugs people about it is that while we did know that Judy had biases about foxes with the way she was immediately suspicious of Nick and then patronizing towards him when trying to be nice to him, I think most people thought that she had put that behind her after Nick gave her his heart to heart talk on the tram car, only for her to go spill her spaghetti at the press conference.
Why didn't the police force have guns?
>>81466692You know, how would gaming work in Zootopia?If I had to take a guess, they'd get around the controller size problem by dividing controllers into two parts, the base that sends the inputs to the console, and then an outer shell that actually has the buttons.Make multiple sizes of the outer shell that's compatible with the same base core, and you'd easily get more bang for your buck.Animals without defined fingers could use joysticks if necessary.
>>81465187Another subtle point was the mayor wasn't actually doing any work. Dawn was. She probably knew about his secret lab, secret hit squad, and doctors just from the payroll. She probably was ready to get Lionheart arrested the second Judy showed up asking for camera footage.
>>81466711i'm not great at drawing but the main thing i think to check for is the shape of the eyes and the mouth. she's pretty expressive throughout the film so you can probably find a good reference image. looks like judy to me though.
>>81466745Thread's fading. Might as well post the next page. This is the only way I can feel good about the original concept.
>>81466211I was about a week close to buying a pet fox three years ago, but right before that my neighbors gave me my current cat as a gift. Now if I get a fox everyone will think it's because of this movie. not like that's gonna matter anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WWWoiRs3SMYou will never make IRL Nick this happy.
>>81466736It's in zao in the miyagi prefecturezao-fox-village.com
>>81466692Call of Duty: Black Sheep Ops
>>81466782More kid friendly,They have Rhinos in full armor instead
>>81466782wow nick is so cute
>>81466775I forgive any flaws with the press conference scene if only because the makeup scene was the best fucking part of the movie. I swear, they practically could have ended the movie there just because you know things will be okay with Hopps and Wilde back together and back on the case.>>81466745A nightmare for one Nick. But in the infinite span of realities, for other Nicks... They have to live that nightmare, everyday.
>>81466800Which is a shame because that comic's not very good
>>81466692>First version>Depressed, lonely out of shape gamer who people actively avoid>Final version>Well off,in decent shape. with an tablet,and making the best of out life despite current events Something you wanna say Disney
I present to you: the Evolution of the Zootopia Thread1. Hate the smug Fox2. Profess sexual feelings towards the rabbit3. Profess sexual feelings towards the panther4. Profess homosexual feelings towards the cheetah.5. Watched the film6. Profess sexual feelings towards the Fox.7. Ship the Fox and the Rabbit8. Witness early footage of the film.9. Enter unending depression over the original plot.We shall evolve from here.
>>81466278You know, that's kinda what I find interesting about their relationship. Before he met Judy, Nick didn't have any friends -- and why would he, if they'd just stab him in his back at some point? He didn't feel he needed actual support, and that he could live essentially as a hermit in one way or another. At the end of the day, he didn't truly want to be like this, but he still felt it to be better than the alternative, if he could call it that.After meeting Judy, and then after spending an extended amount of time with her, Nick slowly comes to the realization that he's experiencing a feeling he hasn't encountered in about 20 years -- being in good company. He feels emotionally connected rather than opposed, and now her company satisfies his craving for social interaction that he always felt deep down but tried to suppress. For once, he's starting to become dependent rather than trying to achieve full independence.But once Judy said something that struck a nerve in him, the new way he perceived the world was broken. Once again, someone he came close to tried to go in for the kill, and almost instantly he reverts back to his original state. If he had given up there and then, he wouldn't have emerged wiser, but with better reason to say "I should have known" to himself.
>>81461958I was having a pretty nice week, after doing awful last quarter at University I finally felt like this quarter would be nice and I'd be back on track, but it turns out I shouldn't be in two classes due to failed prerequisites I had no knowledge of and now I feel like trash trying to fix everything up.Then I watched the documentary hoping for a nice pick-me-up, Zootopia has been damn good at giving me a bit of a boost.Haha, nope.It's pathetic but this is the most suicidal I've ever been.
>>81466739Yes. It's pure in the primal, instinctual way. The hunter stalking his prey. The prey wanting to flee and yet at the same time, knows that she has a part to play in continuing the cycle, and that part of her just wants to give in and let the hunter have his way with her in a hungry tangle of passion and pleasure.
>>8146687110. Transcend existence and become a Gideonfag.
>>81466871Well the Blu-Ray is still a ways off. We'll be combing it for screenshots and webms to high heaven once we get it.
>>81466805Aw jesus, that's at LEAST a five hour bullet train ride both ways...or maybe a flight.
>>81464152>been in a stable monogamous relationship with the same person for almost 30 yearsPretty based tbqh. That's the kind of moral turpitude kids need these days. None of that one-night-stand degenerate culture.
>>81466867What's a guy supposed to do when you can't work out without being tortured, Anon?
>>81466843>I forgive any flaws with the press conference scene if only because the makeup scene was the best fucking part of the movie.Yeah, that's quite true. The makeup scene was one of the best parts and I would rather have a somewhat awkward misunderstanding scene than not have the makeup scene. It's a small price to pay for such a tremendous payoff.
>>8146687110. 2chan immigrants talking in broken English after April 23rd
>>81466940Byron is actually the ideal human being.
Just wanted to say something:I don't think the city of Zootopia, the version in the final film, is by any means an utopia. I think rather than a dystopian setting like proto-Zootopia was, it's just a city. Not a prejudice or conflict-free city, but like many in the real world, comprised generally by people who can tell whether obvious good-just and obvious bad-unjust.
>>81466886Just be happy that what was showed in the documentary was thrown in the garbage, and seemingly everyone involved was on board with the new plot.
>>81466256Why are they terrible?
>>81466871>no gay fox mentionsslippin'
>>81466943>Not using torture to get your blood pumpingCasual
>>81464152>byron is gaywell shit that explains everything
>>81466888>wanting to see predator hunting prey>wanting to see predator fucking preyYOU ARE SICK AND IF THE HELL EXISTS YOU DESERVE TO GO THERE
>>81466987They're wild, undomesticated animals anonNot ideal pets
>>81466493>give him a kiss>CHOMPThey're so energetic it's crazy.
>>81465992That's heavy stuff man!
>>81466782That's awesome. And now I want a 2D animated Zootopia TV show more than ever.
>>81466992>6. Profess sexual interest in the foxIm in that stage right now
>>81467001Well in this case, "getting the blood pumping" is what leads directly into the torture. Bit of a catch 22.
>>81466871We shall transcend grief! We shall evolve beyond the mortal feeling of sorrow and achieve a new superior existence.As lifeforms that no longer succumb to base sorrow or anger but lifeforms that can simply enjoy and advance from any experience. To the point where we could enjoy a Zootopia that ended in Nick and Judy dying and the entire city collapsing in on itself or a Zootopia where Judy and Nick saved the day perfectly, and got married and became the greatest cops ever equally.
Very quick, minor question about the ending of the movie:Was there a line I missed that explains how the police showed up so quickly to apprehend Bellweather at the end? They were pretty much there immediately after she realized the Night Howler had failed, but I can't figure out if we're supposed to assume she had called the police to respond to the crime scene or if Nick/Judy had tipped off the ZPD offscreen.
>Zootopia 2>Judy being a savage beast happens
>>81467024>undomesticatedTell that to Russia. Those foxes wouldn't even make it in the wild because they're so housebroken that they think they're little dogs.
>>81467081Bellwether called the police to "report a savage fox in the natural history museum" and the precinct is, if I remember right, basically right across the street.
>>81467085Judy is already a savage beast
>>81467085>Nick goes savage>Judy runs from him and he keeps chasing her>Nick lunges at Judy>he hugs her>it turns out that Judy was the one who went savage and she was seeing Nick as a fearsome predator
>>81467063>There are predators who purposely set off their own collars for the thrill of it>They use them so much they short circuit
>>81467081>Yes! Please! There's this savage fox in the natural history museum! Officer Hopps is down, please hurry!
>>81467085>Savage Judy>Attacking anything nearby without inhibition or mercy>All the /fit/ bunny body muscles but none of the intense trainingI'm actually kind of curious to see how many she could take out.
>>81467154>basically right across the street.That's stupidly convenient and contrived when you think about it.
>>81467182She wasn't an officer though, she resigned months earlier. Still bugs me
>>81467169thats pretty fuckin good anon
>>81467170>Actually go to the ZPD to ask for a new collar>"Excuse me, my collar isn't working, could I-">Immediately shot
>>81466264Actually there are a number of reptile and frogs that secret toxins to be poisonous to predators.
>>81467203I dunno, I could totally be wrong. But, when you think about it, you're at the literal heart of Zootopia; it'd actually make some sense. You've got the police precinct filled with the best officers available, and you've got a history museum showing just how evolved and civilized the city has become.But I'm probably just remembering the city layout wrong. BD can't come out fast enough.
>>81463171Never jacked off to anything related to this movie, but him being a married gay guy and going on about privilege in that documentary explained pretty much everything on why the movie became what it is. Not that that kind of story is bad to do in a kids film, it's just that it was fairly obvious it was done from a certain perspective.
>>81467203They deliberately cut through the museum because it was close to the ZPD.
>>81467207It was a way to get the police there faster. Officer down is like the OH SHIT moment.Besides, it's the quick way to identify who's being attacked. More of the officers would recognize Officer Hopps than Judy or Judy Hopps. Having been one of their own would be another reason why they would hurry over.
>>81467007Everyone on Disney is gay
>Pixar is one who killed the collarSo it finally comes out. Those bastards
>>81467369Well it is the gayest place on earth.
>>81467274Yeah, the old concept played right into the SJW concept of a hierarchy of privilege which is kind of bullshit. As we see in the movie foxes do have it pretty bad, but bigotry and bias go both ways. Predators are a minority but they hold many key positions of power in the city, and make up a disproportionate amount of the police force compared to prey. None of the animals are a direct analog to any specific type of person, and the movie is much better for it.
>>81467207Documentary at 37:50 about the breakup scene>...and it really hurts Nick that this animal, this mammal that he's come to trust over the last couple of days who's he gotten very close to would think he could possibly be a dangerous mammalIt all happened within a few days
>/co/'s reaction to the documentary
>>81467451>Bryon and Rich's reaction to /co/
>>81467403It might as well be their slogan!
>>81467369Poor Walt.>the only goy in Hollywood who owns a studio>dies>the company is immediately taken control by le happy merchants
>>81467484It's okay. Disney has another Walt-tier animator/leader on their staff now.
>>81466711>>81466789thanks for the advice, hope its looking better now
>>81467451Haha yeah, when Morris gets shocked by his collar for the first time, that was just hilarious r-right, no I'm not crying
>>81466211Now I want to believe Nick makes a mewling sound when he wants head rubs from Judy.
>>81467530looking good anon
>>81467396So you prefer the more depressing version than what we've got?
>>81467530It's missing something anon...Something very important
>>81466252That'd be pretty fucking dark, anon. It also wouldn't explain why he was so willing to join the force.I still want a lighter version of it. Maybe he's savvy enough to recognize there are good and bad cops, and secretly wants to reform the ZPD.
>>81467548>Nick wants head rubs from Judy>Mewls at her>She still doesn't pet him>Gently nuzzles her>She still doesn't pet him>Playful opens mouth around her paws>FOX HAS GONE SAVAGE I REPEAT FOX HAS GONE SAVAGE THIS IS OFFICER HOPPS REQUESTING IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE
>>81467548I'd love a comic/fic that uses this idea.>CAPTCHA: "Select all the street signs.">posts things that are not street signs
>>81467650S I G N I T
I haven't seen the documentary.But I will say this Nick is perfect.
>>81467451I think the webms separated posted here, held more impact towards me, now that I had time to truly analyze them and realize how fucked up this all is. Holy fuck that kozlov's kid scenereading that AU comic earlier today didn't help either
>>81467673dank memes are for everyone anon
>>81466252>get beaten by the police as a little kid>watch your father get killed right in front of you by police brutality as he tries to save youAnon, that's how a fucking domestic terrorist is made. There would be NO way in Hell such a character would join the police at any point in their life.
>>81467604Obviously.Of course, we will never know which was better, cant compare a fully animated film to some storyboard sketches. I will say the message would have been much profound in the original, whereas in the current story it just seems to be tacked on in the second act
>>81467691about time you sexy bastard
>>81467721nigga you don't understand byron will find fucking find you
/co/ i bought a god damn judy hopps disney infinity thing, what the fuck do i do with it??? like does this let me play a game or something shit it kinda looks cool and judy is a cutie
>>81467752Re-reading this post made me realize I'm retarded.
>>81467790It happens to us all
>>81467169Never thought of it that way. That actually sounds pretty cool, anon. Would watch/10
>>81467775burn it so judy can be free
>>81467775Put it on the base and she shows up in the game.Then go play the Zootopia mission where Nick asks Judy out on a dinner date at the end.
>>81467771Last time I pastebinned, the mods came down.
>>81466940>Byron looks like he's like 5 years older than me>I'm actually young enough to have been their butt babyHow?
>>81467752"...If you sign that picture now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will sign you."
>>81467875Joy and doing what you love for a living.
>>81467615>>81467735oh, of course it would be lighter. And to be serious, if I was told to integrate Proto-Zootopia into the actual movies, I'd probably make it a book Nick wrote and published under a penname. It's actually pretty popular and basically Zootopia's 1984, though Nick doesn't really give a damn about it's reception, it just bounced around in his head until he put it to paper.
>>81467854Eh, just post it on AO3 and tell us the name. AO3's full of all sorts of degeneracy, they don't care what you put up.
>>81467834jude is not for lewd
>>81467752alright I'll sign it http://imgur.com/rlY8Y7r
>>81467646>Please click all the street signs>it's all pictures of plantsFuck you Google.If you want to do it the easy way though, if you're a 4chan X user you can just go to /trash/ and load up on Captcha tokens there, because they made the Captchas on /trash/ are easier. The tokens are good across all boards.
>>81467929Byron is pleased. He shall resume his slumber until he is awakened once more.
>>81467024The ones you see in the videos are domesticated.
>>81467646Just enable Legacy Captcha, Anon.
>>81467973Not all of them. Some people actually do keep captive wild foxes/ones bought through a breeder. The domesticated ones are relatively rare and cost a pretty penny.
>>81467923Is Nick for lewd?
>>81467973Wild foxes aren't really dangerous to humans, but if you brought one into your home you can expect your house to be pretty thoroughly trashed.
>>81467919>that one episode when Judy finds out>she reads it>starts pestering Nick for a sequel
>>81468034missed the question mark. ?
>>81467906Does that involve him writing your name with pieces of your corpse?
>>81468012Only for Judy's lewd.
>>81462526>Zootopia 2>Bellwether escapes>uses crazy scientist honey badger's newly created time machine to travel to the past>Nick and Judy chase her>only get the protective field around them before reality shifts>now they're in present day but Bellwether's reality ala BttF2>movie unfolds close to 1:1 from original script>flashbacks are now either treated as current reality attempting to overwrite them since they're don't belong, or they meet their alternate selves who give the flashbacks
>>81468121I'd really rather not have a ridiculous sci-fi storyline.
>>81468034Well that didn't last long.
>the janitors deleted the other threadwhat the fuck
>>81468121>Current reality attempting to overwrite them since they don't belong>Begin to question what's real>At one point Judy realizes that Nick is a fox without a collar>Pulls out her gun
>>81468007A domesticated fox from Russia goes for about $9000 when all the import / licensing fees are taken into account, which is expensive although it's comparable to buying a fancy dog. There's also some that have a Georgian White coat coloring, which only appears in the domesticated breed, and foxes with that coloring could pass as a domesticated dog to the unsuspecting passerby.If you sign up for a breeding program you might get some of your money back eventually, although that's somewhat relative because the cost of owning a pet isn't cheap. Owning a fox is comparable to owning a small dog, and a dog costs about $1000 a year when the cost of food and vet visits is taken into account. You also need to make sure that there is a veterinarian's office nearby who is comfortable giving your fox checkups since not all vets will treat exotic pets (though a fox is not nearly as daunting as something like a puma, obviously).
What the fuck happened
>>81468181They're new and eager to prove themselves.Like Judy.
>>81468179>tfw it was about to be a Nickposting thread my favoriteMods why
>>81468121>uses crazy scientist honey badger's newly created time machine to travel to the pastThis isn't Sly Cooper.
There's a new thread now, it has a question and we're on the tenth page.
>>81468213They're holding out for the superior Judy.
>>81468206>>81468213I don't know how you gentlemen still don't understand this.We go down with the ship. Every thread. Only then does a new one get made.Hold on to your honor, go down with dignity!
>>81468028>"Sequel? Carrot, I killed off the main character.">"But you left his girlfriend alive! She could pick up his fight to avenge him!">"'girlfriend'? You mean the lieutenant? They're best friends .">Rabbit punch!
>>81468310It's on page 10 and it's image capped. This calls for a new thread. This is literally how it is for every other fucking thread I've ever been a part of where people want to keep discussing things in a new thread. Why the fuck would Zootopia be an exception to the rule?
>>81468357Because the mods don't like it and the new jannies are eager to get some deletions
>>81468357this is not a general
>>81468377So power abuse?
>>81468386in name only
>>81468392There is some genuinely unsettling shit that gets posted in these threads, but mods don't know how the hell 4chan works so they just pull an MLP and ban the threads rather than the users
>>81468392They're not abusing their power.They are gently stroking it, holding it, feeding it, cuddling with it, all with warmth and love.
>Expecting any level of competency from /co/ modskek
>>81468475It's funny, on other boards posting things slightly against the rules would result in a post or file deletion at the very most, here you get 3 day bansI think /co/ is actually the only board I've ever been banned from
>>81468392Come on, don't be so naive. It's furshit and general. Only 2 things that mods hate the most. Just huge pain in the ass and nothing more.
>>81468510I'd bet money he'll be fine. In fact, if the mods are doing anything much more strenuous than ctrl+f I'd be surprised.
>>81468510Nice implication, see you next thread
>>81468475See you on the other side space familia
>>81468203A lot of people don't realize what they would be getting into though. You probably wouldn't want to keep your fox in the house, for example, because of the smell and the fact that they are pretty destructive. And then you would need a lot of enclosed space for them to live in outside. Not all people have yards big enough for that. You also need to consider how you are going to keep them from digging out of their enclosure, since they love to dig. The decision to adopt a fox should not be taken lightly, for your sake and the fox's. They demand a lot of attention and a lot of upkeep.
i love nick!
>>81468597Good night, sweet prince.
>>81468597i love finnick!
>>81468597Me too, I want to snuggle and kiss and pet~ him.About when do threads naturally archive?
>>81468597>>81468671>>81468682bye bye thread