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Why did they push a true big bad when this guy is, all things considered, a vile asshole that is to blame for everything?
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>>80764352
He's to blame for illegally locking up and experimenting on citizens, but his evil is reactionary; he would not have done that had they not been attacked by the true big bad. He's not to blame for everything but he was right to be imprisoned.
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>>80764352
Because without him, Judy wouldn't have had a job on the force. Besides, what would he have to gain from making predators go feral?
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Because he represents the Strong White Man. The sheep represents the Jew, plotting behind everyone's back. He does what is necessary in reaction to the crisis the Jew has caused. A necessary evil, if you will.
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>>80764352
>a vile asshole that is to blame for everything?
He's to blame for half the things yes which is why he's still in prison, but it's not like he's the one who started it
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On the topic of Zootopia, do the citizens eat dairy products? I saw some concept art for milk and cheese and assuming cows are fellow citizens, you gotta wonder where they get the milk from.
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A lion doesn't care for the opinion of sheep
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>>80764685
Oh wait there was the elephant ice cream shop, so they get dairy from somewhere...
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>>80764688
Sheep are for sexual only.... Ie condoms
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>>80764608
Yes he did. If he just showed Bellwether some basic dignity and complimented her she would have never schemed
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Undercover animals.. Has a wolf in sheep costume but what were the rest
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>>80764352
>A police chief who would sooner crush a new recruit than actually make them useful.
>Gloveless elephants
>An obese receptionist who kept Judy from using department resources even though it would take him two seconds to activate her.
>A DMV employee who is hell on wheels.
>An officer that gladly blackmails a fox.

Because zootopia has more assholes than a narrow latrine. Only the top assholes qualify as villains.
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>>80764744
Well in that case yeah, but it's not like that's illegal

Again, he is still in prison at the end
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>>80764352
MAYOR LIONHEART DOES NOT CARE ABOUT PREY PEOPLE
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>>80764581
>no responses
6/10
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>>80764352
Bellwether didn't have enough motivation for what she did. They were clearly trying to draw parallels between her and Judy, but they didn't go far enough

Considering how much got cut and reworked I'm surprised we haven't heard of a more detailed backstory for her
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>>80764794
Not to mention the fact that Little Rodentia is run by a crime lord, probably due to the fact that the police department doesn't even hire officers small enough
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>I don't understand why they made the main villain racist all of a sudden
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>>80764744
That's some nice headcanon you've got there. Shame you have nothing to back it up.

Having someone be a dick to you is NOT an excuse to start a race war, which is exactly what Bellwether was doing. Lionheart's crimes were minor, hers were far worse.
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>>80764981
We don't know that. He's powerful, but there's no indication he runs that district.
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>>80764941

Why not just tweet the guy? He seems to love talking to fans.
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>>80764981

And the rabbit befriended said crime lord despite knowing he had ordered an unknown number of murders by 'icing'.

This city is more corrupt than Mexico.
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> implying you have dreams in the first place
> tfw your gonna settle
> tfw judy's parents were right
Also
> nicks story ends with a bunny living in a box under a bridge
> later we see nick living under a bridge
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>>80764992
>really jordan basketball grip her face

Why do I find comments like this on these things so fucking funny?
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>>80764992
>yfw Lionheart dunks Dawn into a basketball hoop while she's trying to compliment Judy
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Am I the only one who sees the predator/prey divide as specifically a male/female metaphor?
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>>80765177
Yes. It's more a racism allegory, and also a big/small thing.
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>>80765021
>>80764981

I could see it both ways. One hand, no cops. On the other hand, 100% of the police force are goddamn Godzilla and can kill you and whoever you have in the district with one stomp.
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>>80765177
Male/Female
Black/White
Straight/Gay
Trans/Normal
Indian/Jewish
Socialism/Feminism
you can put whatever into this movie and it would kind of make sense
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>>80764998
Headcanon nothing, it's been all but directly stated Bellwether's been shit on all her life. She was wrong for inciting a race war but it didn't come from nowhere.


>Lionheart's crimes were minor,
Obstruction of Justice, conspiracy, unlawful imprisonment are NOT minor crimes anon. Him stooping to those levels right off the bat should tell you he was never squeaky clean to begin with
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>>80764981
>Little Rodentia is run by a crime lord
[citation needed]
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I still liked him though, he too suave to hate.
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>>80765135

Welcome to the Sheep Jam.
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>>80765228
There HAVE to be tiny cops. Even Judy was much too large to go in there safely. Supposedly there's a mouse cop in the concept art somewhere.
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Dude, you know in buddy cop movies, the first bad guy is never the real bad guy. There's like always a man behind the man

>>80765177
It fits into no specific demographic and at the same time it fits into all of them.
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>>80764981

He's from Rodentia but his base of operations is Tundratown. All of his muscle is from there as well.
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>>80764992
What's terrible is that he does this to her in public. On stage. Still, the movie would be better if we could see Lionheart openly disregarding prey needs. Maybe he favors subsidizing bug farms over prey food or creates many social programs to help predators but none to help prey. What we see in the movie is him on edge and busy trying to figure out the missing predator case.
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>>80765313
But he's an arctic shrew, wouldn't Tundratown be his normal habitat?
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>>80765242
"All but directly stated" translates to "That's just your opinion, man." Bellwether was power hungry. She wanted to be in charge and was manipulating everyone around her to get it.

Lionheart was right to hide the infected animals. Look what happened when word got out. It would have destroyed the society had Nick and Judy not stopped Bellwether.

You say "Unlawful imprisonment", I say "Do you want savage animals running around eating people?" They were trying to cure them, they should just have let one or more people (principally Bogo) in on it.
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>>80764352
>DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT CANCEL MY AFTERNOON, SMELLWETHER?
>I-I didn't...
>THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU FUCKING SAY SO?!
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>>80765424
God damn it
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>>80765348
>Still, the movie would be better if we could see Lionheart openly disregarding prey needs.

It wasn't just predator vs. prey; there was also a lot of big vs. little prejudice.
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>>80765297

If there were rodent cops I don't think anyone would have cared about Judy being a cop then. Although it could have been a separate force/jurisdiction sort of thing.

Even then I'm sure they would have hired rodent predators like weasels, reptiles, squirrels, other hungry rodents, or maybe just one bear who sticks his head in the city and picks up bad guys with his tongue (apparently bears actually do that.)
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>>80765384
The problem was that he *hid* it, anon. If he had brought Bogo (and by definition the police department) in on it, it would have been a public safety matter as you said. But he didn't, and even directed the police to investigate the predators as regular kidnapping cases. He was operating outside the law.
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STOP BULLYING BELLWETHER
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>>80765424

So Lionheart was prepping Dawn into becoming the ultimate mayor?
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>>80764685
>>80764727
Soy products.
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>>80765534
No, this was early in the movie, when he still thought she was crap and not worthy of greatness.
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>>80765242
I wonder if vampires exist in Zootopia
I wonder if they're absolutely hug-gable too.
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>>80765490
The reason he panicked was mainly because he himself was a predator
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>>80764685
There's a ton of ways to make milk without it coming from an animal.
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>>80765424
>WHAT'S WRONG SMELLWEATHER? ARE YOU GONNA CRY? ARE YOU UPSET
>N...no..
>SAY IT, SAY IT ON THE PA. ARE YOU UPSET
>I'm upset
>WHAT?!
>I'M UPSET
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>>80765502
I bet Bellwether has a Lionheart sized punching bag at home.

But even that bullies her everytime she punches it.
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>>80765075

More like Chicago, as in the current mayor is a criminal who usually gets busted to only be replaced by another mayor who will eventually be busted for similar offenses.

As a side point, I did like how the mayor had different resources than the police department. Kinda shows a difference between what you'd assume to be one collective organization.
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>>80765384
> Bellwether was power hungry
Well that's YOUR opinion. Look it can be interpreted both ways at this point, mostly because the movie didn't bother to dive any deeper than that.

>Lionheart was right to hide the infected animals
>Bush was right to hide criminals away from the public

>You say "Unlawful imprisonment", I say "Do you want savage animals running around eating people?" They were trying to cure them
Wow, if only there was a place for people to treat the mentally unstable. A MENTAL HOSPITAL as it were to treat the criminally insane.
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>>80765576
And it thus calls his motives even more into question. He was keeping it secret to keep his grip on his power, not because he wanted to stop a panic. The panic only started when Judy straight-up said "We think preds are going primal because of their DNA"; without that it doesn't explode as quickly.
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>>80765490
And when word got out, society started to break down. It was a disaster. Keeping it secret was for the public good.
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>>80765576
That doesn't excuse working outside the law. He didn't have to go public with this information from the get go.

And if you were working outside the law, you were probably up to no good to begin with.
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>>80765663
They were IN an asylum. They should have had a few more doctors, yes, but they took the animals to a safe, secure facility to be treated.
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>>80765424
Goddamit, kudos to whoever made this
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>>80765665
"It could destroy Zootopia!" He was well aware what would happen if word got out. Yes, he wanted to stay in power, but he also foresaw that word getting out would cause huge problems.
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>>80764352
Lionheart may have done things too undercover, sure, but he did have the victims' best interests at heart. He locked them up in a secure place where they cannot harm anyone or themselves & wasn't he seeking a cure?
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>>80765601
>>80765502

I bet this all started because she called him 'lionfart.' That was a bad, bad day for her and it was probably hot.
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>The muzzle scene
>The predators get muzzled
;_; I didn't need those feels
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>>80765706
Not just when word got out, when someone in a position of authority and with the voice of the city directly made the link. If Judy had said literally anything but what she did, the panic wouldn't have happened.

Honestly, that's on Bogo. Sticking a rookie cop who was only on the force for 3 days in front of the collective media of the city and letting her go off script? He should have stepped in for that question and just said "We have theories regarding the victims, but nothing concrete at this time."
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>>80765717
unless you're a vigilante.
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>>80765747
It was an abandoned hospital at worst and a private asylum at best, using equipment that was probably substandard.
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>>80765855
>using equipment that was probably substandard
Nah, Judy commented on how modern all the lab equipment was. Lionheart might have been acting outside the law for selfish motives, but he was trying to the fullest of his ability.
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>>80765791
>>80765665
>>80764352

Well, he really enabled Bellwether. 75% of the movie was unraveling his shit conspiracy while Bellweather made more and more jumps.

If he told the police in the beginning Bell would have been busted in a day. Headline reads, "Lamb secretary hires rams to shoot dudes with crazy sauce, mayor coverts city dam to treat victims."
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>>80765502
>>80765601
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In the sequel, a disgraced ex-con ex-mayor will return to office. It's not that much of a stretch.
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>>80765883
Modern equipment doesn't necessarily mean up to necessary quality

If the doctors couldn't find out it was because of a known if uncommon plant. Then they were either shit doctors or had shit equipment.
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>>80765933

>Jordan Basketball Grip

Hilarious
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>>80765021
he was completely willing to kill a cop
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>>80765464
Not just big vs. little, it's everything that's not sheep. She wasn't a prey supremacist, she was a sheep supremacist. She needed Judy on her side, so she tried to divide her conveniently on her team, when really she probably had something against bunnies too.

First they came for the foxes, I said nothing, I wasn't a fox. Then they came for the predator's, I said nothing, I wasn't a predator...
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>>80765919
He didn't want to cause a panic. Which happened REAL EASY...remember, despite all their work the scientists couldn't detect the Night Howler, which means either it dissipates in the system REAL QUICK or they're so stupid they didn't do a drug test.

Lionheart is that rarest of things, an actual gray figure in a kids movie. He does bad things for good reasons and selfish motives. Even his pushing Bellweather around is because he's SUPER BUSY managing a conspiracy to counteract his own assistant's conspiracy.

For that matter, we assume he pushes Bellweather around because he's a bully. What if he knows about her ambitions? Not the whole 'racist conspiracy' thing, but that she's an ice cold, ambitious plotter who wants his job. Of course he wants to keep her from getting too much credit for the new bunny hero cop.
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>>80765840
Bellwether would have arranged for it to get out somehow. Fracturing the city was her master plan, after all.
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>>80765978
They weren't looking in the right places. They didn't know to look for a concentrated poison, so they missed the hallmarks and went off in the wrong direction.
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>>80765988

Dawn wants to unite all prey against predators. 10 to 1, and all that.

It's premature to say what she would've done with other prey when she dealt with predators.
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>>80765919
But Lionheart had no idea why or how all these animals were suddenly going savage. If he notified the police, then someone on the inside could blab about the epidemic & throw Zootopia into chaos.

Wait, why didn't Bellwether blow the whistle on the mayor?
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>>80765840
Honest to god between that and his smile with the poster I thought Bogo was in on it for a hot minute.
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>>80765982
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with whether he runs Little Rodentia.
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>>80765988
>Literally comparing this to the holocaust
Fuck me this is some literal Penders level shit here.

Fuck off back to /pol/
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>>80766066
Because then she would have had to answer the tricky question of how she found out, and how she knew to be investigating him. In order for her plan to go off, she had to get someone else to connect the dots.
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>>80766062
Whatever she needed to in order to get as much power for as long as possible.

Even if she couldn't use Night Howler on prey, there are other methods of divide and conquer.
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>>80766062
>>80766084
Why does she only work with other sheep?
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>>80766050
That's why you work with real hospitals, with a bigger staff and better equipment.

There is literally no excuse for this.
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>>80765978

Nah, shit doctor.

Moth swab, blood test, stool sample, and a dozen different ways of testing to see if they have a toxic or foreign substance in their body that have been around for hundreds of years.

Almost makes you think she was getting paid by Bellweather to throw up false information.
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>>80766106
Because it's a Disney movie and she needed a theme?

Fuck me, the autism in this thread is slowly killing me.
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>>80766078
If anything his base of power seems to be in Tundratown. Maybe he's exiled from Little Ro.
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>>80766116
The real hospitals didn't find shit either, and they had a larger sample size to work with. It wasn't until Judy made the connection and was able to tell them exactly what to look for that they were able to make a treatment for it. This implies that night howler poison affects the nervous system extremely fast and dissipates just as fast, so unless they got lucky and managed to muzzle a savage predator before the residue fell off their fur they wouldn't be able to find out what was going on.
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>>80766074
Bogo seemed like a real ass. He underestimates Judy & doesn't give the time of day to little animals yet he's prey.

He's pretty good at trolling though.
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>>80765102
To me it sounds like a director telling an actor what to do
>"Alright Lionel, (never saw the movie don't know his name), now just really Jordan basketball grip her face
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>>80764352
well he DID remain in jail (though lower security than bellwether)
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>>80766210
Or their toxicology is just bad and they can't pick out poisons or drugs without knowing what they are first.
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>>80765177
No, since both genders are 50% of the population each. And there's really no chance of systematic fear of women or men driving societal impressions or political aspirations.
>inb4 something about Trump
That works better with race analogies,but the film is far more nuanced than that.
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>>80766215
>yet he's prey

I wouldn't consider a cape buffalo "prey". Herbivore, sure. But those fucks are fucking crazy. They will actually ATTACK lions, and I swear I saw one face off against a black mamba once on one of Steve Irwin's shows.

Honestly, that's what I want in the sequel: Bogo wrecking shit and showing why he's the chief of police in a city that's populated by lions, tigers, and rhinos.
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>>80766154
She had no one else on her side but sheep. Anti-predator prey animals was her theme, but for some reason she did the most "racist" thing and formed a sheep only group.
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>>80766106
>Why does she only work with other sheep?
Are you actually serious or are you reading into this shit this hard?
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>>80766297
She had no one on her side but sheep because the audience is supposed to realize in retrospect "oh wait, they were saying who the villain was the whole time at that part" and all bad guys in kids movies with henchman have some kind of visual consistency with them
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>>80766062

She said that targeting moderators was largely a political move,. Everyone hates predators then she gets more leeway to do what she wants since she becomes a more trusted figure for not being a predator.

Although I'm sure abit of it was racism. She hated Lionheart especially but generally thought people were stupid and easily herded.
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>>80766215
He's a busy guy who had what he saw as a PR joke dropped in his lap, someone who, to him, didn't pay her dues; Judy got her foot in the door because of a political initiative, remember, AND a posting at the primo district because of her friends at city hall.

Then when he gives her a proper starting cop job she goes over his head to her friend the assistant mayor, using political pressure to force him to put her on the major case the department's been running in circles trying to solve.

WE know Judy worked extremely hard to get where she did, and that Bellweather was playing Judy and Bogo in order to either undermine the police investigation or blow it wide open. Bogo doesn't know that, he knows someone he had to hire for politics used politics to advance her career.
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>>80766106
Who's to say she only works with sheep? She clearly needed a larger group for her plan than just her botanists and hitmen

Mr Otterton could've been working with her as well before he decided to try and come clean
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>>80766383
tbqh Judy lucked out. Rookie cops NEVER get to leave the station on their first day, they always get stuck like as janitors or in records. Bogo was actually showing her a lot of leeway putting her out in public.

Now, whether he'd let her actually move up from parking duty or whether he'd keep her there until she gets disillusioned and quits is another matter.
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>>80766360
Yeah but she never said anything about how she felt about other prey besides how they outnumbered 'preds' and that they could overthrow them and she'd stay in power blah blah blah, my point is, from what was presented to us, all she came across was just hating predators and wanting prey to stand up against them
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>>80766106

She did work with Weasel
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>>80766407
She had those sheep cops too. They were probably her informants inside ZDP.
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>>80765663
>so that's it? You spread fear and stay in power?
>yeah, pretty much
Or something like that. It's pretty clear she isn't just acting out due to mistreatment. She's clearly power hungry and using her situation to drive herself to power. Heck, Judy was getting similar treatment, and overcame the adversity to improve the world.
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>>80764981

We don't even know what Mr. Big does or if he ice's people on the daily.
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>>80766516
>ZDP

damn I need to lay off the reefer or something.
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>>80766522
>Bad guy says bad guy things in a Disney movie
Shocking

And she's meant to be a twisted parallel to Judy, mistreated and while Judy got better, Bellwether didn't and wanted to take it out on the world.
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>>80766106

She is a sheep. She uses other sheep because she is a sheep!
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>>80766455
Meter maid was probably an insult and a way for him to say to the mayor "Oh yeah she's out in the city!" without putting a rookie on the beat.

Like presumably Judy got bumped up a little because she got to go straight to the bullpen instead of the beat but she also expected to be treated like a full detective her first day.
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>>80766298
She lets her prejudice control her. You just need to have eyes to see that she only works with her own kind.

>>80766314
You're not making much sense.
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>>80766484

Nah, Weasel just sold to the trigger man. He definitely wouldn't know about Dawn.

Otterman was probably their original supplier but she put a hit on him once he figured out what Dawn was up to.
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Why did Disney make crooked cops the heroes of this movie?

Judy has committed bribery, blackmailing, unlawful arrest, death threats, aiding and abetting, and has mob connections significant enough to extort information.

In every single way she is an utter disgrace to the uniform.

What kind of message is this sending to kids?
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>>80766642
>You're not making much sense.
How am I not making sense. There's nothing but sheep on her side because when Judy and Nick start getting closer to the case, you see nothing but sheep. In retrospect, that's a big "Belleweather is the main villain"

The part about bad guys having visual consistency is just that.
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>>80766600
Sloths are slow, wolves howl, sheep... are racists who only coincidentally conspire with only each other?
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>>80766642
The villain is a sheep.

The conspirators are sheep to hint at their boss being Bellweather. In comics and cartoons minions of a villain often have a visual cue to relate them thematically and visually to that villain.

She could be a sheep supremacist, but there's no evidence in the film of her being anything other than a power hungry politician who believes that fear is what will secure her power.
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>>80766642
>I literally cannot comprehend anything that isn't in-universe for the movie
It's time to stop posting
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>>80766688
Sheep are very easily herded by someone leading them. You are doing a very bad job at pretending to be a human, reptilian.
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>>80766686
Yes, but prejudice and racism are also themes and it fits that too. Actually, for us to piece together that it was Bellwether the whole time based only on the fact that Doug, Woolter, and Jesse were sheep would make us racist.
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>>80766697
Yes, there is no evidence. She just only works with sheep.
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>>80766676
6/10, you should get some bites.
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>>80766757
But he's right though
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>>80766697
>She could be a sheep supremacist, but there's no evidence in the film of her being anything other than a power hungry politician who believes that fear is what will secure her power.

That really sounds like someone who would be a supremacist. Maybe it just didn't come up.
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>>80765177
It reminds me of apartheid.
>prey (blacks) outnumbered preds (whites)
>prey were subjects to preds until recently
>a prey wants to take power away from previous oppressors
The first two were conjectures but it makes sense
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>>80766676
Honestly, I hope they bring all this up, fire them both, and have them hired by Zootopia's version of the FBI for their "effectiveness", with both failing one section and excelling at another during their training, opposite to each other. Obviously they'd be assigned as attachés to the ZPD mostly, to keep popular characters around, but still allowing their autonomy to continue from the first movie.
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>>80766699
>>80766724
It's weird that you refuse to consider that someone who has prejudice as their defining characteristic would want to work only with their own kind.
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>>80766676
But she did it for the right reasons.
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>>80766834
Considering how in the very early drafts of the movie (before the story change) Zootopia itself was named "Sun City", you're pretty much right on the money.
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Obviously Bellwether only works with sheep because they're her family. She's a parallel of Judy in every way, down to her numerous siblings
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>>80766676
>I have literally never watched a buddy cop movie before
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>>80766757
Please feel free to point out where any of my post is bait, it's all entirely factual. I still loved the movie, I'm not calling it shit because of it, but it just strikes me as odd to make her so blatantly crooked.
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>>80766844
There's having a theme and character trait and discerning things from that

Then there's having cringy "theories" reading too deeply into shit that isn't there.
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>>80766663
What's weird is that he was going to confide in Mr. Big. I feel kind of bad for Mrs. Otterton. They love each other dearly but he keeps so much from her.
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>>80766865
Is Sun City a reference to South Africa?
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>>80765177
Predator prey divide seems to work more as White/Black to me. But smaller prey animals like rabbits and sheep seemed to be a kind of sexism allegory.
>don't have the same strength as a larger animal, either predator or prey
>kind of condescended to as "cute" and/or "dumb"
>Miss Belleweather talking about the larger animals are so big and strong and loud.
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>>80766860
That doesn't make it okay.

>>80766885
>greentexting
My point isn't that it follows a buddy cop movie formula, it's that Judy is extremely crooked, especially for being brand new to the force.
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>>80766935
Oh yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlMdYpnVOGQ
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>>80766903
>"theories"
What's with the quotation marks?
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>>80766593
She didn't want to "take it out" on anything. She took her negative experiences and directed it towards seizing power and preying (ironically) on the populace's fears. There is no reason to think she is somehow a victim.
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>>80766937
>sexism allegory

Ding ding ding

It's no coincidence that the little abused animals were all female and the big guys were all male
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>>80766383
The biggest problem is that Judy was still the top of her class. So even if her hire is political, there's evidence to her abilities. She shouldn't have been put straight on a case, she's still a rookie, but she probably should've been assigned to an experienced field cop, like the other new recruits seemed to be.
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>>80767090
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>>80766522
She is clearly power hungry but I don't think it came from nowhere. This is pure theory crafting but I think it might be a combination of mistreatment, former disillusion of how working in office would go, and an instinctive prey instinct of fear. We don't have much to go on but her word and actions but I don't think the entirety of her character before the villain reveal was a farce.
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Shut up! Oh my god its a fucking movie!
Post more cute
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>>80767073
Well, there was that lady elephant on the force. But still, the point stands.
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>>80767030
There is no reason to think she isn't either.

Tbph it's all just conjecture on both sides, because both sides have points and both sides have no real confirmation on their stance on the matter. Bellwether is the villain, no one is debating that but what kind is another matter.
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>>80767073
There were plenty of the reverse too. Confirmation bias is a nasty thing.
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>>80766676
>bribery.
Who again? I don't remember.
>blackmailing.
Nearly every cop show I've seen has them use prior arrest worthy dirt on people to get them to help them on a bigger case.
>unlawful arrest.
Didn't she have the dirt on Nick to enforce it?
>death threats?
When?
>aiding and abetting
When she and Nick broke into that car? Will give you.
>and has mob connections significant enough to extort information.
Those mob connections weren't for dubious means until she had resigned. Otherwise, it was just her getting acquainted thanks to saving the guy's daughter (which saved her from getting iced).
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I need more Dawn getting cutely bullied. If there was ever a character made for bullying, its her.
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>>80767073
>>80767177
>there is a piece of evidence completely disproving my point, but my point still stands

Polar bear drill sergeant, Clawhauser, hippo kid, Mr. Big, all the prey kids in Nick's past, even Gideon is relatively small compared to other animals.
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I guess Shaq gripping her face would be going too far.
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>>80767281
Nick and Judy are cute couple
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>>80767273
But that's assuming that it has to be a 1:1 comparison to real life. Predator fear is obviously representing racism, but our world isn't 90/10 whites/minorities.
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>>80767306
Yes they are
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>>80764581
This board has forever tainted my brain, didn't get the jew vibe, but all I thought whenever the sheep was on screen was, Fuck off tumblr...
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>>80767298
>no slam jam edits yet
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>>80767232
Her very first act post-ticketing was aiding and abetting, and after she realizes it and collects evidence on it, instead of turning in the evidence, uses it as blackmail to force Nick into cooperating with her. That's on her very first week as a cop. Usually it takes at least a couple months to wear out a badge's shine.

Her mob connections persist after resuming her role as an officer, and threatening to freeze a suspect to death, on or off the force, would look extremely bad if it came to light.

Speculation, but it's likely her mob connections also helped fast track Nick and have them assigned together. She's still a rookie, yet gets assigned with another rookie? Asking for death, unless you're a dirty cop with the mob protecting you.
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>>80767399
I dig Nick's scouter.
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>>80766867
Could be, but consider that Nick says "sheep don't usually let me get this close." There's a fair amount of anti-fox sentiment to go around, but how he says that implies that sheep are stereotypically prejudice.
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>>80766407
>Mr Otterton could've been working with her as well before he decided to try and come clean

What was up with Otterton? He knew about the night howlers and he was meeting with Mr. Big. Even his yoga class is in a weird club.
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>>80767215
Literally when during the movie is a man abused by a woman?
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>>80767498
He didn't call the police, he spoke with a deadly crime boss directly. He's this movie's greatest mystery.
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>>80767498
>He knew about the night howlers
He was a florist and thus knew about the dangers of night howler poisoning.

>he was meeting with Mr. Big
He was a florist, and Mr. Big's daughter was getting married.

>Even his yoga class is in a weird club
Hippies are good yoga teachers.
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Does the ZPD get to have guns, or are they like British police?
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>>80767489
I wonder what was going through Dawn's mind when Nick was playing with her hair.
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>>80767571
They're British cops. No guns in this movie.
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>>80767443
>She's still a rookie, yet gets assigned with another rookie?

Do we know how long Nick's training took? The movie glossed over it, but generally police academy is not that short, right?
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>>80767489
>Sheep don't usually let me get this close

I took that more as a joke of "everyone wants to touch sheep's wool, so much so that they're sick of it." You see an inmate doing the same thing to Dawn during the credits and she gets really pissy about it
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>>80767578
>You'll get yours soon, you fucking disgusting pred
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>>80767578

She appreciated the attention. Especially because the last person she saw touching her hair was Judy.
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>>80767578
>Don't look aroused, don't look aroused, don't look aroused
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>>80767605
I like to imagine that guns exist, but are just not visible for the movie
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>>80767524
>moving the goalposts

I'll play along though.

Bellwether shoots Nick with a gun that, to her knowledge, will turn him into a savage and cause him to commit murder.
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>>80767571
>>80767605
what's up with the military looking car police car at the end
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>>80767578
THE DAY OF THE ROPE
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>>80767578
>soon.
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>>80767613
Most people don't like having their personal space invaded. He specified that sheep don't let him get near them.
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Bellwether should have just actually run for mayor. I could see her wining if she cut the crazy.
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>>80767680
Aside from the fucking villain, because duh?

And no I didn't move the goalposts. Big scary men pick on little women. You said the reverse happens. I wanted to know when.
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>>80767757
He has my vote.
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are any of you here are actual furry and kemono fans/lovers?
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>>80767571
They all have Stun and Dart guns. Judy uses one in the sequel book.
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>>80767831
Her whole problem is she's tiny and has no charisma. Her position as assistant to Lionheart could've been perfect if Lionheart pulled his head out of his ass and rewarded her proportionately to her work

She worked in a boiler room for Chrissake
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>>80767757

How can Zootopia be great when these fuckers are running around and attacking everything in sight?
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>>80767443
The popsicle thing? Didn't Nick confirm nothing there was illegal? The problem was him not reporting it on his taxes. And from there, we come to the typical cop trope where they offer leniency to lesser criminals in order to get their help in cracking bigger cases/criminals.

We don't see her utilize those connections in any capacity in the brief time she has her badge back. And her not being a cop at the time along with her actions resulting in that case being cracked would probably be enough to sweep it all under the rug.

I think her cracking the missing person's case and unraveling Bellwether's conspiracy will be enough to give her some favors from Bogo (especially since Nick was key to it as well). No mob connections needed.
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>>80764352
the Mayor did nothing wrong.
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>>80767550
Mr. Big said he had something important to tell him. He was going to tell him about the night howlers because we know Mr. Manchas knew about them. Why he was going to tell a dangerous gangster instead of the police, we'll never know.
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I love nick
he is super cuteee
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>>80767671
Guns & Rodents is on Judy's Ipod playlist.
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>>80764794
>>An obese receptionist who kept Judy from using department resources even though it would take him two seconds to activate her.
It's not the job of the receptionist to activate those kind of things. That's not something he is allowed to.
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>>80767910
>Zootopia in KH3
>Judy partner that Sora can fastball in a team attack
>Story is about Nick trying to clear his name when he's falsely accused of working with the heartless
>Bellwether comes out in a chariot pulled by giant ramheaded heartless for the boss
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>>80767935
Couldn't trust the authorities, maybe?
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>>80767910
Well I only noticed them after these three bozos popped up.

Clearly there's a connection! We should put a moratorium on any furless freaks, ducks, and... and whatever the hell that thing on the left is.
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>>80767953
Firearms confirmed.
I'd love to see some /k/ up in here
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>>80764992
I need more of these concept tips. They're hilarious.
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>>80767998
no. no you wouldn't.
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Honey: A sticky, golden toast to the Woolluminati! Good riddance, you creepy, glue-eating, baaageouis sneaks
Nick: Here-here.
Honey: And to you, Officer Wilde for putting the mastermind behind bars. I just wish I could have been there when you did it.
Nick: If you want, I could pull some strings. Get you to see her. Maybe you could even ask her some questions?
Honey: You'd do that for me? Coo-wait, what's the catch?
Nick: Well, you know how we used to date?
Honey: I wouldn't call me paying for your meals because you took a suspiciously long time to come back from the bathroom "dating," Nick.
Nick: My apologies. But I really want to start fresh with this new girl and I was hoping you could give me some advice on how not to screw it up.
Honey: Is it the bunny?
Nick: ...possibly.
Honey: You cradle robber.
Nick: Why is that always such a bigger deal than the species thing?
Honey: Because it's way creepier. What are you? On the right side of 50?
Nick: Honey, please.
Honey: Fine. I'll give you some pointers.
Nick: Thanks.
Honey: All right. Something you have to keep in mind is that there are 3 extremely basic, but fundamental, rules for dating gals. You follow these, and you'll have a rock solid foundation to work with. Number 1: Don't insult her.
Nick: Errr-.
Honey: That's doesn't inspire confidence, but a little good-natured ribbing never hurt anyone. Number 2-Don't lie to her.
Nick: Uh, you see, I kind of met her while I was still "legally adjacent."
Honey: I can relate. Lucky for you, I saved the easiest for last. Number 3-Don't steal from her.
Nick: Ohhhhhhhhh.
Honey: So you stole from the mob and the cops?! And people call me crazy.
Nick: I didn't technically steal from her. I just kind of tricked her into paying for an elephant jumbo pop.
Honey: Did you not have your wallet?
Nick: I had it with me. I just thought that a cop funding a scam would make for some poignant...social commentary.
Honey: Fair enough. Here's some more commentary for you-"You will die alone."
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>>80767977
>This time it's Bruce Banner who's being forced to make the Night Howler syndrome.
>Some of it gets on him.
>Now you're fighting The Hulk in downtown Zootopia while he uses their cars to create makeshift punching gloves.
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>People defending Bellwether
She literally says she doesn't give a fuck about anything except being in charge

Also she really needed more screentime as a villain, the reveal was good but fell flat cause not much was done with it
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>>80767835
>the villain doesn't count because I said so, nyah nyah!

Okay, goalposts are out of the stadium and laying somewhere in the parking lot now, but why not continue anyways.

How about Judy, surely if the villain isn't allowed, the heroine must be.

Judy is a tiny female animal who becomes a fucking cop, beats up a rhino, slams a donut over a weasel, and uses her fellow cadets as stepping stoned with her female polar bear drill instructor cheering her on while she does so.
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>>80768024
Speak for yourself.
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>>80768041
Love it.
I hope she shows up in a sequel or at least a tv show.
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>>80767835
When Francine the elefant beats up cops playfully on her birthday.

Suck my dick. Choke on it.
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>>80768067

She also felt that predators and prey could not get along, and uniting prey against predators would be incredibly powerful
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>>80768067
I'm still not sure what to make of her personality. As in how long has she had this plan in the works, and how long she's been kind of shat on.
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>>80768116
actually having something you want to accomplish, like putting a man on the moon or pull your country out of a depression is ambitious.
wanting to be in charge for the sake of being in charge is childish.
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>>80768067
The problem with Bellwether is that she has next to no reason to do what she does. In a story full of characters with storied backgrounds and reasons for their actions, she comes off cartoonishly supervillain-like
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>>80768207
She had a goal: to unite prey against predator and create a more harmonious union

Whether she was right or wrong is up for debate
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>>80768041
I kind of want to see nick accidentally set her up on a date with Gideon.
I don't know I think it would be funny.
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>>80768148
>>80768194
It would be interesting to see what she would have thought had she gotten to know Nick or see him selflessly defend Judy
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>>80768104
Since it came up...
How about a shooting range scene where an elephant has a gigantic pistol and a rodent has an impossibly small pistol and the elephants pistol is really quite and the rodents is really loud?
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>>80768207
We really don't know why she wanted to be in charge.
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So, she was overeager, naive and racist. By the end of the movie she’s not overeager but still eager, accustomed to life’s hardships but still optimistic, and not a racist. What’s next for our favorite bunny?

Other than stupid interspecies relations = gay/interracial marriage shit
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>>80768247

She's a token that's made fun of, bullied and treated as a walking punchline.

I can see her turning bad.
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>>80768286
A comfier chair and an office with a view.
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>>80768298
Working from a closest probably was pretty shitty. I'm mostly upset she did this because she seemed to be really good at her job and competent anyway. She came off as a pretty hard worker, so it's kind of hard for me to buy that she does a complete 180 by the end without reason. Dammit Byron I want some answers.
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>>80767690
Likely a vehicle they can use in the wildly different sectors of the city. You have snowy Tundratown, slick Rainforest District, dry sandy Sahara place(forgot the name).
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>>80768341
Try working backwards. She works hard because that gives her her opportunity to rise to the top.
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>>80767935
Otterton was Big's florist and Big described him as being like family. Otterton wanted to tell Mr. Big instead of the cops because the whole thing is a massive threat to the entire city, but coming forward to the police would get him investigated, which could lead to dirt on Mr. Big and the mob getting uncovered, which he wouldn't want for several reasons. By going to Big and giving him knowledge of the Night Howler threat, Otterton was probably hoping the whole thing could be solved with a couple quiet murders and without getting the police involved.
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>>80768067
Bellwether's dark side is slightly hollow. I like it, but I can see why people want to fill it with something (ha ha) and why they default to "my precious bae was hurt" since that's her whole power, she's innocent looking. Clearly something MUST have driven her to such depths. Clearly its someone more appropriate looking's fault.
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>>80764352
>a vile asshole that is to blame for everything?

Was he the one who manufactured the drug that made predators go wild that started the whole thing?
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>>80768486
For me its mostly because in a story where most of the characters have motive and reasons for being how they are, it's kind of strange how it wouldn't be that way for the main villain. I just want to know more and I think it would make sense given the movies themes.
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>>80768341
....she's ambitious. She wants power. A good way to get power in politics, believe it or not, is to make yourself indispensable.

"I know Bellwether's a treacherous little worm, and she's got some uncomfortable views that can't be made public, but by God when I need my schedule cleared with an hour's notice no one of you other idiots can manage it, can you?!"

The problem is that Bellwether hit a lion shaped ceiling and needed a political climate where she could take power, and keep it. Ergo, her plan.
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>>80766106
Sheep represent the Jews
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>>80768542
That quote doesn't really link up with how she is portrayed with Lionheart. Most people, including him don't really know about her darkside or views about preds.
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>>80768587
She blames them for limiting her, and for keeping her down.
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>>80768541
She has a very realistic motivation, ambition. Ambition's such a powerful drug for some people we wrote plays and religious poetry and all sorts of myths warning about how, if you let ambition be the only thing you care about, it will cause a huge fucking mess.

Its ugly, and it lacks the pathos of a personal tragedy spurring someone to evil, but that doesn't mean its not real. People say Bellwether and Judy have a connection, and that's very much true when it comes to ambition; Judy's ambitious, career oriented, and wants to reach the top. The key difference between the two is that Judy isn't willing to watch a city eat itself to get what she wants.
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>>80768612
Well yeah, I just meant she wasn't open about that part.
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GoIng as nick to sdcc this year, so far iv gotten
> green Hawaiian shirt
> orange wig
> fox clip on ears
> tanish grey pants
> reflective aviator glasses
> fox tail
My problem is I can't tell what colors his tie is , it's some variation is red/black or salmon/dark blue but in the pics and movie it's hard to tell for sure
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>>80768633
>People say Bellwether and Judy have a connection
I haven't seen this mentioned very often, but it's very true when you think about it.
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>>80768649
Skip the tail, maybe the ears, people will get it with just a wig. The tie is this, its a classic pattern.
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>>80768649
Dark blue with red stripes.
Also where did you get the wig, ears and tale?
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>>80768633
I think that's a pretty believable theory but I also think it could go the other way with the whole "small prey being seen as inferior" thing driving her to become more ruthless in that ambition. Really I just would like some more confirmation/clarity on what its all about but I kind of doubt she'll even be visited again.
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Has anyone drawn a picture of Nick eating Judy yet?

Something with her head still barely attached thanks to a savage throat-rip and him orgasmically feasting on her innards would be A+.
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>>80765242
Not compared to production, possession, and distrobution of a controlled substance, attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder, poisoning, kidnapping, assault, obstruction of justice, incitement of violence, and (potentially) murder by proxy.
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>>80768701
Try a guro site.
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> This is a fearsome crime boss that has killed
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>>80768709
I wonder how many different laws from our world Zootopia has.
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>>80768701
The edge is real, here's your you.
For real though, there was a legit vore pic someone drew a couple months before the movie came out. Standard soft vore, not very well drawn. Fortunately I haven't seen much more besides that, since although it's my fetish, I'd rather all the autism surrounding it hold off for at least a little longer.
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>>80764352
Disney is anti male and establishment
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>>80767166
dude come on seriously?

If you want to post screen caps all day, go to tumblr or something. We may have 4 zootopia threads right now but at least all of them are about discussion, so let's keep them that way to prevent this from turning into a zootopiageneral waifucirclejerk that gets banned in a week.
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>>80764744
That's the equivalent of blaming the Art School rejecting Adolf Hitler for the eventual genocide of the Jews...
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>>80767281
Holy shit, it's like they designed their faces to fit together.
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>>80764581
This!
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>>80768767
Good to know
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>>80768738
I'd like to know how he got in power
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>>80768772
Well maybe he would have just been a shitty artist if he was accepted.
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>>80768823
He was pretty good at landscapes, but crap at portraits and faces.
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>>80768772
Lionheart didn't jusr reject Bellwether, he was an arrogant, incompetant douche who gave her no respect despite her basically running the city for him
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>>80768821
Wow. I've never seen the movie, but that looks really good.
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>>80768709
Okay? It wasn't contest anon. Neither sides are justified.
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>>80769023
Just adding context.
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Wait a second.
There are no dogs in the film because there weren't humans around to make them.
Why the fuck is the main villain a domestic sheep then?
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>>80768941
Time to watch Rango!
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Now for something completely different, post songs that would have been fitting on the characters Spotify playlists

Judy: https://youtu.be/DZz3y6r-5H8
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>tfw you will never own a van as sick as Finnick's van.
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I have a few important question with this movie.

1.If the animal we know from this earth have evolved to intelligent lifeforms, then what is of the "wildlife" in Zootopia's world?
You know like in the real world, ecosystem survive by having species working it out. To me that this is a very unbalance world if Disney can't improvise those necessities. Just fish and bugs isn't going to make any significant changes.

2.Since they have already mention that there is a Monkey society, then in this modern world, won't they just be labeled as "human?" I know Im digging too deep, but there is a possible chance that the monkey do resemble us.
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>>80769081
I guess it just happened like that.

It's a shame that we never got a nice dog bro to help Claw out with his nervousness around women like they do in real cheetah sanctuaries and shit. I don't know where that could fit into the movie but the possibility would have been cool.
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>>80769094
Why not? All you have to do is buy some oldass panel van off of Craigslist for like $2000 max and then pay a few more grand for the paint job. Less if you just have it vinyl wrapped.

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/5460808652.html

See? Shit's easy.
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>>80769107
Probably natives who chose not to make cities. That, or the entire world is cities. Also there are no Monkeys anywhere.
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>>80766288

Cape Buffalo kill more people every year than any other animal on the continent of Africa.
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>>80769143
so monkey does not exist in that world? I've been lied to.
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>>80766965

All cops in cop movies break the law.

But the good cops break the law for the right reasons and ultimately bring justice. And get absolved of all incidental damages in the end.
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>>80769177
You have indeed. Not sure who told you that.
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>>80769149
>What are hippos
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>>80768280
He'd be one of the Good Ones to her.
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>>80769107
actually, that is true. The point is that they believe "savage" animal doesn't exist anymore, then it's possible that something else outside that substitute these animals. Or Disney just want to avoid that just because it's a kids show just like kung panda and many other animal-human characteristic show. There was this one manga that managed to cover that but I forgot the name of it.
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>>80768941

If you haven't seen Rango then stop whatever you're doing and go watch Rango.
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>tfw you lift to about half of Finnick's spotify playlist

I never thought that a fictional character could have such good taste
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>>80769149
Nope. Hippos do but capes are right below them. 500 Vs. 300.
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>>80769231
you mean this one?
This is probably one of the best written animal fantasy saga. The character looks cute and stuffs but it is actually super brutal and the story packs a crap ton of philosophy and reality.
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>>80769330
>"kids" at the label
yeahh....
this was a good read.
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>>80769386
>that deep breath she takes before stepping off

my
fucking
heart
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>>80764352
He's voiced by JK Simmons. You can't dislike JK Simmons. For fuck's sake, he's directly responsible for everything in the Portal games and indirectly responsible for everything in the Half-Life games, and we still love him.
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Most of what Judy does I can give a pass on with the whole good intentions/buddy cop vibe, but I seriously don't understand her being on anything more than temporary 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' terms with Mr. Big, given that she knows he's casually had people murdered before. That's the one thing that really bothers me.

>>80768485
Exactly.

Not even necessarily the murders part. Mr. Big would have the resources a florist wouldn't have to quietly funnel it to somebody in the press or police, after all.
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>>80769386
Never seen someone so excited to get off the train. My heart.
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>>80769541

I imagine their relationship is going to be "I'm not going to cover for you, but I'm also not going to investigate you either."
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>>80768932
Not illegal :^)
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>>80769541
>given that she knows he's casually had people murdered before

But not with any provable evidence. She's only heard of any murders secondhand (and gotten dangled over some ice before being put down safely).
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>>80769650
I agree. I imagine Fru Fru trying to talk to her about what her dad's been doing and Judy's just like "no no no shut the fuck up don't mention anything like that out loud to me"
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>>80769526
Cave Johnson was an even bigger douchebag than Lionheart. He killed hundreds of employees with his reckless experiments, destroyed his entire company and forced Caroline to become GLaDOS against her will.

When are we gonna get art of Bellwether as an AI?
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>>80769835
Bellwether running Judy through puzzles.
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It's probably been said already, but even though he was mostly just covering his own ass, a lot more people would have gotten mauled and seriously injured had it not been for him ordering them to be captured and locked up. And he was actively trying to find a way to return them to normal.

And imagine if he did come clean from the beginning. "Well for some reason only predators are going feral and we have no idea what's causing it, when it will happen, or how to fix it. Stay calm though, we got this." It probably would have caused more panic than Judy did with her theory after busting him.

He was a dishonest politician and an asshole, but certainly not the big bad.
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>>80769888
If your dream job is something traditionally male, just start identifying as a male, dumby.
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>>80769888
That's right, goy- er, guy! These anti-semites are merely paranoid!
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>>80769858
Would... would that mean Nick takes Wheatley's place?
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>>80769989
Nick is the Companion Cube.
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>>80769888
The like/dislike ratio on that video makes me really sad.
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>>80769989
Nick is ratman, and dies before the story even starts. Wheatley is Flash
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>>80768294
her voice actor said she wanted to see a bit of a role reversal in the sequel, namely have Judy lose her faith in the city and such and for it to be Nick to restore her.

It IS kind of samey to her "hour of darkness" in the movie, but that WAS technically more about Judy doubting herself than society.

>>80769835
>"Mayor Lionheart... Uhhh.. Am I really the first bunny cop?"
>"Well, you're the first one to survive more than two hours on the beat. Boy, let me tell about the first six bunny cops and the pain I had to go through to cover up their deaths- Oh... Uhh, Smellwether says I should NOT be telling you about the last six bunny cops sooo... Forget I said anything! Wilde, have you tried some of this coffee?"
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>>80764352
>the person who may have saved the city is vile

If he didn't lockup those rabid predators they would have actually eaten people. What he did was also stop a panic.
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>>80770119
That is perfect.
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So what does Finnick do now that Nick has a real job?
If he's also a tax evader, does Nick let him slide?
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>>80770252
Well Nick is eating a Pawpsicle at the end of the movie, so he's still hustlin
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>>80764732
Nice try welshman, nice try.
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>>80769835
>>80770119
>Suddenly imagining Lionheart and Bellwether having a cute working relationship at the start before it all went sour
>"Say goodbye, Dawn."
>"Goodbye Dawn!"
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Guys, internet is full gifs in HD, someone got HDrip?
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>>80769835
You're totally right about Cave, but why is so god damn likable? How much of it is the writing and how much of it is JK Simmons?
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>>80770345
Fairly certain those HD gifs are coming from trailers and other promotional videos
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>>80766935
http://www.sun-city-south-africa.com/
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>tfw tax evasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8F2J-lOaGM
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>>80770345
Yes. What will you give me in return. ;)
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>>80770367
Why does judy sound... different?
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>>80770358
I saw all this: it was not there.
And all these gifs started to appear - yesterday.
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>>80770391
This was during the promo's, I think they actually reshot some of the audio.
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>>80770370
What you want? Money? power? childrens souls? magic pony? I can give you everything if you not lied
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>>80770437
How about just an Earth pony with a southern accent and a cowboy hat?
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>>80770247
>>80770334
actually, I was thinking it'd be funny if Bellwether was still advising Lionheart from jail, partially out of habit and partially because Lionheart still thinks: "She's a good assistant mayor! Even if she does have some felonies stacked against her. But if I turned away every convicted felon for a job in the government. Well, we'd have no politicians to begin with would we- What was that, Dawn? Oh... Oh... Uhh.. Forget you heard anything about that. And, Smellwether, be sure to tell Sanchez in Accounting to use that money he's been embezzling to take a vacation. Maybe divy it up with some of those guys from his old gang we also hired- Wait, they're all dead? Well, that saves us some trouble."
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Don't know, don't care.
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>>80770477
I was just being silly, anon, I'm sorry. Delete the cute before you're banned.
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>>80770493
I'm also not the one you were talking to. I just feel bad now.
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>>80770493
Russian internet can't be banned. In any case, if no one knows I'm coming back.
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>>80764352
Cause he has to put up with a menace 24/7.
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Look at all this insanely creative shit. Just take a quick fucking look, I can't even.
http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html
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>>80768796
He murdered the polar bear in charge, duh.
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>>80765424

holy fuck this is perfect
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>>80770551
Damn at all the shit that got the cut
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>>80765424
I am amused and saddened at the same time.
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I've seen people wondering how Bogo and company got to the museum so quick after Dawn called them. I figure they were on their way to the large explosion (train) and just went right for the Museum after being called.
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Did Judy have probable cause to enter the cliffside facility?
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>>80770627
They had footage of a bunch of paramiliatry looking mother nuzzlers kidnapping a (mostly innocent depending on how much of Mr. Big's operation he was actively involved in) civilian and driving him out of town in the direction of the facility.
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>>80770627
suspicious vehicle entered, and said supicious vehicle was carrying a witness.

Seems probably enough to me.
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>>80770627
The security footage/witness testimony would be it

In United States criminal law, probable cause is the standard by which police authorities have reason to obtain a warrant for the arrest of a suspected criminal. The standard also applies to personal or property searches.

Probable cause, in conjunction with a preponderance of the evidence, also refers to the standard by which a grand jury believes that a crime has been committed.
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>>80770615
ZPD is basically right across the street from the museum.
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>>80764744
you assume she wasn't speciesist to begin with
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>>80770648
What's the legal definition of violence?

Do net guns count?
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>>80770662
Would be assault and kidnapping, so definitely.
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>>80770551
well, after scrolling/counting through, there's between 150-200 drawings

he says
>January 2012 I received a call from Disney
that's about 4 years ago, but let's subtract a year so we can say the world was referenced out by 2015, so 3 years

3years x 365 days = 1095 days

average of 150-200 is 175 drawings

1095/175 = 6.26 days per drawing

we can guess that the guy made one drawing a week

Not as daunting as it seems to make all that. even at 1 drawing every 3 days, if they only spent 1.5 years making references. It isn't terribly difficult to do if you're an artist.
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>>80767281
>>80767306
>>80767345

Goddamn headcannon faggots

Every time someone posts Nick and Judy together, I make another addition to this series.
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>>80765177
No, It is mostly that. Judy being cute small bunny in law enforcement playes into that. So does her pepperspray and fear of being eaten by Nick.

And then theres Bellwether and Lionhearth, and their situation is hard to read as anything else than tumblrita feminist and CIS white old man. Bellwether is very supportive of Judy during the whole film, even giving her change to join her, but decides to off her since she turns out to be prey-traitor.

You can't tell me Lionhearth was anything else than the strawman of The Man holding everyone down. He is the arrogant selfish political figure that Bellwether wants out of power.

The only thing going for a racism is Nick. And if you want to make it all coherent, you actually make him caucasian, not black. In an Utopia where every ethnicity is presented, white cis male is minority in the sea of pocs. And this is Utopia.

But then again, its not a fucking black/white male/female, but a bunch of animals. It really showcases whats wrong with today's sociaty when every fucking reviewer thinks this movie is a great tool to teach kids how to fight the white man's society. I accidently watched TYT talk about how sadly some racists have interpreted the preys fears against preds as legit concern. You dumb fucks!
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>>80770694
Well, I am not an artist... and that looks magical to me. I am sorry, I guess I am too impressionable.
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>>80770726
oh, it all is, but when you get paid to do it, the inspiration becomes a necessity.

you force yourself to think about the world, and to be fair, there's probably 5x as many sketches that were discarded in the process just by that one artist.
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>>80770707
>artfag doing a series on Nick and Judy moving into a place together

Yes!

Does it need to be expressly romantic though?
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>>80770749
You must not know where I'm going with it.

Spoiler alert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G371JiLJ7A
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>>80765177
No.

Francine is the biggest (and presumably strongest) member of the ZPD.
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Holy shit this thread makes me want to never, ever watch this movie.

This sounds like the stupidest, most fucking retarded shit I've ever heard of.

I hope everyone who jerks off to pictures of its characters gets a flesh-eating virus on his dick.
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>>80770794
Hello (You), did you have a bad day?
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>>80770771
Oh god....
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>>80770794
It's a legitimately good movie.

The fanbase is the biggest turn-off. Seriously on the same level as SU, if not more.
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>>80770771
Hey, it's Charlie Brown and Peppermint Patty!
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>>80770794
you seem triggered. perhaps you should retreat to your safe space for the day.
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>>80768796

watch Godfather II
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>>80770771
oooh.... dammit.
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>>80770794
>This sounds like the stupidest, most fucking retarded shit I've ever heard of.
It's probably not the kind of movie for you, then, and there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone has different tastes.

>I hope everyone who jerks off to pictures of its characters gets a flesh-eating virus on his dick.
I don't want to be a bubble burster, but that's highly unlikely, as flesh eating bacteria (not a virus, despite common misconception) is a rare condition and it's highly unlikely that so many people would coincidentally obtain it, especially in the same location.
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>>80770808
Sounds to me like it's just another Disney movie about

>muh oppression

which just doesn't sound all that interesting, honestly.

The autistic fans and fur-fags that I would be associated with for seeing it are just the icing on the 'I-don't-want-to-see-this-movie' cake.

I was considering it today since I've heard it's good, but knowing more about the plot from reading this thread, much less interested.

>>80770842
Yes, clearly I need a safe space when I'm reading the thread about the movie and seeing peoples' reactions to it.

How did you know that I was so scared of this material that I would never expose myself to any of it at all, rather than just not wanting to see the carnaval del autism itself live and in person?

+1, my fellow Redditor!

Pic related.
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Describe, in greentext form, the circumstances of Nick and Judy's first kiss.
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>>80770884
Just go watch it, it's surprisingly much more deeper than you may expect. Ignore the autists
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>>80770884
>hate Joseph at first because he doesn't have a punch ghost like everyone else in the old fighting game
>actually read his Part and watch his show
>he is now my favorite

best Jojo forever.
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>Nick and judy are tied against their will after getting caught by the bad guy they're tracking down
>they're tied face to face
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>>80770896
Also I'll upload it to the /co/ booru. I forgot to put the last one there too.
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>>80770884
It's really okay if you don't want to watch it. No need to force yourself to just because it's popular.
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Comparing zootopia to blacksad seems to be a sensitive subject... Just got bounced from cartoonbrew, same with imdb and rt.
Juan guardino's comic deserve more attention, he's the first to introduce racism topics in talking animals.
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>>80770898
Absolutely god-tier taste, anon.

>>80770915
I mean, I watched Deadpool for that reason, and I didn't regret that.

It's good to be hip to the latest in normie-culture. At least it gives you talking points for when you venture out into their pastures
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>>80770934
The idea of actual people in the real world discussing Zootopia is something I never even thought about. Most of my co-workers would probably only go to see it for their kids and I don't think anyone in my peer group would be interested.
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>>80770951
I live in the most hipster-trash-infested shithole in the United States of America outside of San Francisco. I've come to expect things like that.
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>>80770951
>mfw me and my coworkers went to see it together and we all loved it
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>>80770891
Drunken movie night at Nick's
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>>80770966
After the movie, one of my friends commented that he wanted to hug Judy.
Everyone looked at him, then nodded in agreement, and one said she wanted to pet Nick's tail.

It was surreal.
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>>80771037

I'll tell you what's fucking surreal

NOT wanting to pet Nick's tail
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>>80771037
>it was surreal

I get this mindset from spending all day saying lewd shit and being weird about the characters

So I often forget normies appreciate the 2D cute also
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>>80770997
you call that greentext?

speaking of which, do zootopians have human levels of alchohol tolerance, or that of their animal counterparts?
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>>80770891
>Nick and Juy doing some investigation stuff
>Undercover so they're dressed plainclothes
>Suspect starts coming their way
>Nick tells Judy to just act natural
>So Judy thinks back to what she's seen undercover guy girl pairs do in the movies and starts making out with him
>The suspect sure as hell didn't suspect anything since he seemed approving of the interspecies snogging and saluted before heading off
>and the takeout kept going well past the duration needed to maintain a cover
>it wouldn't be until a few days later, after the case was cracked they sat down and talked about it.
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>>80771112
Nice one. Have a picture.
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>>80771200
what the fuck is this?
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>>80771049
>Judy using Nick's tail as a blanket after a long day

This has to be drawn
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>>80771209
CAN YOU MULTIPLY BY BUDDING

And no, I didn't post the image.
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>>80771210
I've seen that drawn somewhere already.....

I think the artist was Richard H something
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>>80771210

I will attempt this maybe

I suck cock at drawing but it needs to be done
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tfw tall, lanky, green eyed, and named Nick
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>>80766036
>For that matter, we assume he pushes Bellweather around because he's a bully. What if he knows about her ambitions? Not the whole 'racist conspiracy' thing, but that she's an ice cold, ambitious plotter who wants his job. Of course he wants to keep her from getting too much credit for the new bunny hero cop.
makes sense all things considered.
He's a lion and lions are proud.
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>>80771200
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>>80771037
The girls are going crazy for Nick. No wonder he is so smug.
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>>80771271
As a girl he's pretty fucking ugly.
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why are they so smug?
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>>80771271
One of the two friends I went to see the film with did tell me she'd fuck him if he were human.
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>>80771312
Does she even have a driver's license?
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>>80771312
The sex is fanastic.
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>>80771312
>>80771320
Question is more like: how his sunglasses even stand on his face without the help of the ears ?
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HOW DO I ESCAPE THIS FEEEEEEEEL
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>>80771333
I don't get it.
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>>80771336
Nick removed his slave collar, like the filthy profligate he is.
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>>80771332
you don't need ears to keep your sunglasses if you have maximum smugness
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>>80771315
That's just codespeak that normalfags use when they want to fuck an anthro character.
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>>80771336

This alludes to the original story, before Disney reworked it:

>animals are "civilized"
>prey, majority of population, still fears predators
>predators are forced to file down their teeth, wear shock collars when they reach a certain age (12 or 13, something like that)
>shock collars incapacitate them if an indicator like their heart rate or something gets too high
>supposed to keep predators from going "savage"

This leads into the story:
>Nick is from a formerly nice family, his dad was a successful tailor
>prejudices and bullshit eventually wreck the family business
>Nick tries to motivate himself to be a self-made man
>purchases an abandoned warehouse and turns it into a predators-only theme park
>place where kid predators can get away from the fucked up world they live in even if only for a day
>Cops eventually nail him through sting operation or something, he goes to jail
>He escapes after some time
>Officer Judy is tasked with hunting him down
>She ends up chasing him through all of Zootopia
>eventually somewhere along the way she starts to see things from his perspective
And the story sorta goes on from there, I'm not sure on the rest but that's all the story I have concrete evidence in.
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>>80767757
So what animal would Trump be? An orangutan? A marmoset that for some reason is orange?
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>>80771413
A bald eagle, for he is the true spirit of America.
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>>80771413
We already decided he's an elephant named Donald Trunk.
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>>80771333

trips DEMAND that you protect this PERFECTLY LEGAL establishment, /co/!
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>Judy has been so goal-focused all her life that she's never been with anybody
>Nick has had a few one night stands here and there but never anything meaningful or really satisfying
>their first time together is very new for both of them, in different ways
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>>80770794
>even has a disdain for blebs picture

Like clockwork, here's your (you)
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>>80771333

Holy shit, I just realized that

>if he doesn't take the collars off the kids they'll get zapped if they have fun

Fuck that's fucked up
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>>80771438
... where are the fics that are about this anon?
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>>80771333
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>>80771306
Shut your whore mouth.
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>>80771411
>>80771465
Lets hope an artist picks the old premise up and runs with it
A webcomic would be cool
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>>80765234
>Trans/Normal
>Normal
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>>80771438
I remember one Anon in here saying that he didn't even want lewd pics of Nick and Judy anymore, he just wanted to see them doing comfy shit.

I think its catching....
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>>80771559
I've been working on a big zootopia porn for over a month now. After seeing the movie its kind of killing my vibe
Must press on and not look at their cute faces
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>>80771502
They're too cute.
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>>80771559
I want lewds that are cute.
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>>80764998
Silly rabbit, everything is an excuse for a race war.
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>>80771570
any ideas that one could drawfag for?
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>>80771591
Judy touching nicks pawpads to his annoyance
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>>80771591
Nick and Judy holding each other close while having sex and Nick whispers "I love you" in her ear.
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Once. I try drawing her once.

And the fetish takes over the second time around.

Dammit.
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>>80771638
She died for your sins
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>>80771638
WHY
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>>80764781
Fennec Fox in an elephant costume
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>>80771638
I've never met one of those artists who draws lovable characters being hurt
But I imagine they're fucking nuts
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>>80771558
>trans
>real
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what's the most memorable line in this movie beside "it's called a hustle, sweetheart"?
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>>80771558
You can bitch as much as you want

Feeling uncomfortable because you have a penis isn't normal.
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>>80771638
so, your fetish is the picture on the right?
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>>80771333
>when predator kids have fun they get shocked

Jesus Christ
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>>80770551
>http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html
I still wonder how would we have reacted to a darker Zootopia, with Nick as main protagonist, because you can kinda tell that the one we all have watched feels great in some parts and empty in others, was it late stage cutting?
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>>80771333
>>80771688
Tell me about it
Original Zootopia is dark as fuck
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>>80771675
"We're really good at multiplying."
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>>80771675
>not Bogo's Frozen joke
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>>80771411
Damn, I now want to watch this version goddamnit Disney
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>>80771675
>don't ever let them see they get to you
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Cool movie, too bad it bombed hard in the box office.
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>>80771693
The pre-production was 100% done by the time they scrapped it and redid the entire movie with the same characters.

Except for Chief Bogo every single character was different than the first draft.
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>>80771438
I have a feeling that Nick would be the reluctant one, afraid of letting someone in.

That would be so adorable to read.
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>>80771749
0/10
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>>80770771
WHY
WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT
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>>80771567
Make more cute and adorable shipping images. Maybe with lewd intentions.
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>>80771749
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>>80771749
yeah rip

this movie had so much potential, too bad we'll never get a sequel.
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>>80771750
what a waste
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>>80771784
not a waste, they always can reuse the old ideas for sequel or else
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>>80771750
What a shame, yet I remember seeing a webm with Clawhauser running with one of those collars
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>This is where Nick's family used to have a suit-store when "Happytown" was first built. (see the billboard on the right below)
This is so sad
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>>80771757
>>80771767
>>80771775
If you guys think I'm joking, you're in for a big surprise since this movie actually took 700m to create and market after all was said and done. One of my good friends was called into polish 2 years before release and saw all the scrapped film.
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>>80770771
don't do this to me anon.
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>>80771591
Nick and Judy holding hands
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>>80771811
Christ.

Anyone read the red writing under "lame"?
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>>80771818
wonder how long till someone leaks it
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>>80771829
It should be chompers but I'm not sure
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>>80771818
My uncle works at Nintendo and says the Zootopia video game is going to be in virtual reality.
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>>80771818
Those reporting costs are unreliable since movie studios use them to avoid making profits on paper, making them liable to certain fees and taxes.

For example, officially none of the Harry Potter films made an actual profit. Neither did the LOTR films.
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>>80771818
Wow, really?
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>>80771861
Holy shit that's sneaky.
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>>80771859
And i work at Rockstar San Diego and they are working on a sandbox game of this movie
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>>80771862
it's true!
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>>80771818
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8

To those who may bite the bait, Zootopia's budget was 150 million, including advertising.
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>>80771831
I doubt it will be leaked. It'll rot in the vault forever or until Disney makes a "lost footage" movie or some shit.

There's film from movies as early as Robin Hood we've never seen, or maybe even earlier.
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>>80771904
The final budget, for the final movie...that doesn't cover the millions of dollars in other expenses.
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>>80771904
Source?
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>>80771818
got a source for any of that?
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>>80771312
>WHOO WHOO
>IS DA SOUND OF DA POLICE
>WHOO WHOO
>IS DA SOUND OF DA BEAT
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>>80771861
Then why are there so many? Why make tons of movies and make no money?
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>>80771811
If that didn't make you sad now, take a look at this
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>tfw it doesn't matter how much zootopia makes, disney doesn't make sequels except for crappy straight to vhs movies
>And they don't even do that anymore
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>>80771950
All by my seeeeeeelf...
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>>80771954
>What is Tangled 2 coming soon
>What is Frozen 2 coming out in 2018
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>>80771968
>What is Tangled 2 coming soon
you mean the tv show?
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>>80770771
Oh please just change it so that they adopt at and live a happy life with their adopted fox and rabbit daughter & son.
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>>80771954
Frozen 2
WiR 2
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>>80771926
They're not actually loosing money, they're just loosing money on paper.
It's like undereporting your income so you get into a lower tax bracket. Except nobody can touch you even though they know exactly what you're doing.
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>>80771979
>>80771968
y'know, I've been thinking. I think a TV show is better than a movie/sequel.

Why?

Because once a sequel is out, that's that.

As long as the TV show is running (and isn't cancelled), we can have a fucking General. As long as we don't go full Steven Universe.
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>>80771982
If there's one orphaned rabbit, there's a hundred of its brothers and sisters. How cruel is it to adopt just one?
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>>80772002
>we can have a fucking General. As long as we don't go full Steven Universe.
Generals ALWAYS go to shit.
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>>80772002
Disney used to keep a solid 52 episode cap to all of their cartoon shows.
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>>80772002
>As long as the TV show is running (and isn't cancelled), we can have a fucking General.

Are you fucking serious?
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>>80769081
internalized domestication clearly
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>>80772015
This, threads need to be kept sporadic and far between. One each week is nearing the limit to how often there should be threads after screenings stop.
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>b-but that's forbidden love
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What kind of features should be on the special edition?
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>>80772079
I've always wanted to have a PIP of the voice actor in the booth doing the lines.

It'll never happen though.
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>>80772079
The deleted naturalist club scene where nick takes his pants off
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>>80767622
Anyone else notice she's the only sheep with round eyes? She's wearing glasses, so probably not contacts, but it could be a sign of her trying to not look freaky.
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>>80772088
how about best friends who just happen to be married?
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>>80772088
Fuck buddies is the only true option.
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>>80772104
No homo?
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>>80771994
Damn, capitalism, you scary
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>>80772075
I both want them and don't want them to be a romantic pair. Forgot my pic.
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>>80772079
The deleted sex scenes
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>>80772063
But arbitrary limits on when and how long you're allowed to talk about an on-topic topic are also a bad idea.
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>>80764581

>...and the Lion King was about apartheid SA!

>>>/pol/
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>>80772125
see
>>80772101
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>>80772093
that would be amazing but also horribly tedious to record and edit. These voice actors spend literal months standing in booths reading lines.
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>>80772117
A guy and a girl can't really homo, m8.
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As much as I love all the cute, today is feeling smug
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>>80772095
what are the odds of this actually being included?

I'm certain the scene was completely animated. Do you think they would throw it in?
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>>80772208
>pegging
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>>80772093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6AwLKMxuUo
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>>80772232
for real?
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>>80772241
With Bellwether as judas
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>>80772208
>he didn't see the pic
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>>80772235
>that picture with Judy with a Magnum in the background

Huh.

>>80772214
2smug4me
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>>80772232
I have a hard time believing this wasn't drawn for that one comment.
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>>80772023
When was this 52-episode cap in place? Back during the Disney Afternoon days, their series ranged between 13 episodes up to 100, none of them stopping at 52.
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>>80772272
what comment?
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>>80772301
I'd like to be the first to welcome you to /co/ on your first day on the internet. The little sets of numbers with the two > in front of them are links to other posts. If you "click" with the left mouse button on those links, it will automatically take you to the post in question. Once again. Welcome to the internet.
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>>80764794
Her being in the system is IT's problem, not the receptionist/dispatch.
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>>80772235
holy shit, Nick looks exactly like Jason Bateman
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>>80772214
Where are the Reno 911 jokes?
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>>80772127
True, there needs to be a goldilocks zone of thread frequency.
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>>80772299
shit it was 65 episodes. Disney would be inclined to cancel a show once it got to 65 episodes (presumably because 65 episodes is how many you can show in a fiscal quarter)
And it was the 90's to like the first half of the 2000s Kim Possible getting a fourth season killed the rule for good, fortunately.
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>>80772370
>Nick wears short shorts
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>>80772329
okay
but what comment?
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>>80772379
I thought it was because of animator/writer's unions that state after 3 seasons of a show you have to give the animators/writers a raise.
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>>80772379
Yeah, 65 was the number I was seeing most often:

>Gummi Bears - 65
>Ducktales - 100
>Rescue Rangers - 65
>Talespin - 65
>Darkwing Duck - 91
>Goof Troop - 78
>Bonkers - 60
>Aladdin - 86
>Gargoyles - 65
>Schnookums and Meat - 13
>Timon and Pumbaa - 85
>Quack Pack - 39
>Mighty Ducks - 26

The reason being that 52 weeks * 5 weekdays is 260 weekday afternoons where you can cycle through your 65 episodes an even four times in a year.
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>>80770965
Sup, fellow Washingtonian?

>>80764352
The predators were blacks. They were a major minority, but the prey (whites) were unreasonably afraid of them. All the whites though the blacks were just naturally prone to violence, but, of course, it was all a plot by the white man. I completely believe this is intentional, given the pandering nature of the industry. Everyone claiming anything is intentionally related to Jewish machinations is just fucking crazy, though.
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>>80767966
>>80772333
Dubs and trips confirms.
It's an interesting detail because it really shows how little Bogo cares or just how apathetic the culture is to her.

Or maybe this is why big jobs have long orientation sessions instead of just throwing new hires out to do their jobs with little to no idea what the local system is like.
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>>80770615
Seeing the "wolf in sheep's clothing" gag at the end, maybe an undercover officer was able to get close to Belleweather's operation and got in touch when shit started going down.
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>>80772393
I don't think I've ever heard of that, but Disney is usually so niggardly that I'd believe it.
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>>80772383
More like
>Clawhauser wears short shorts
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Post more clawhauser
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>>80770615
The train explosion was basically right downstairs from the museum.
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>>80772448
Would you make Clawhauser wear a shock collar?
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>>80769081
Because even wild sheep can be fluffy. I'm sure they looked like that for recognition.
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I love Nick
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>>80772469
depends on if we're feeling kinky that night
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>>80772469
Yes, buzz it every time he reaches for a donut
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>>80772469
No. There wouldn't be a point, he's already submissive.
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>>80764992
Tthe tips are hilarious. Someone compile them.
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>>80772448
I wonder what his original role was supposed to be. In the art book he's seen more out of uniform than anything else. He's also drawn into a lot of scenes outside the office, one where he gets a tinfoil hat at Madge's.
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>>80765840
Watching that scene again, I think it was Bellwether's intentions to put the spotlight on Judy and Bogo can't say no. One reporter started asking if preys can go savage too and Bellwether pulls Judy out of the spotlight quickly to avoid the question.
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>>80771926
You fucking idioit
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>>80772587
he worked for Nick as his underground park/club
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>>80771811
Well, that explains the causal suit and tie
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>>80771829
collars

they're saying he's a bad tailor.
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>>80772610
>implying
That's literally how you get rich.
Instead of paying taxes you make a shit ton of claims for shit that's more time than money. Like "donating" time to poor kids and giving them food supplies. Nobody ever actually counts up how much you really spent in food supplies, so you can claim you spent thousands in oatmeal, bread, water, etc. and save a fuck load of money.
The catch is instead of giving them goods which are actually quantifiable like actual bottles of water, you give them things like new pipe plumbing and filtration systems, all with companies you aleeady have your hand in, so youre really paying yourself, and then you make claims on your taxes as you see fit.
The system is designed to be exploited by the people who know the rules and have connections.
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>>80772717
People who are good at making money are also good at not letting others take it. Who knew?
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>>80770884
Its fucking hilarious how people on the internet think the real world works.

No one is going to think. "Oh my gosh he must be from Inkbunny, Martha hide the kids." if they see you in line for a movie, they're thinking, "Gee did I get enough butter on the popcorn? Fuck, did I pay that bill? What do I want for dinner tonight?", they don't even know what a furry is if they haven't seen that Law and Order episode lately.

You are not that special and the only person judging you is you.
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>>80772821
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>>80772002
>As long as the TV show is running (and isn't cancelled), we can have a fucking General.
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Looking at the concepts some more, I can understand why Savage/Proto-Zootopia didn't happen: It's not just the darkness but also the lack of sequel potential. So much baggage would be left over from the first movie that a sequel would have to be more of the same. With the Zootopia we got, a sequel and a series could be just about anything, but with maybe less racism since Judy and Nick saved the day.
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>>80770925
Did you go, "Hey, if you liked that and are an adult, check this out?" or go "lol its kimba all over again."

because no juan guardino isn't the first guy to use talking animals to tell an allegory that was some caveman who saw that rabbits were fast and used that to tell a story about running too quickly so you trip and miss the deer and don't eat that week. Blacksad is cool though.
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>>80770925
He did it in such a dumb way. His use of anthropomorphic animals is purely aesthetic. The same story could have been told with a human cast.
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>>80771638
Look she's a fast paced career woman on the road to success, how she relieves stress in her private hours is no one's goddamn business.

Call me dumb bunny again Nick, like you really mean it! "Carrots this is weird." I NEED THIS WILDE.
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>>80772844
I doubt they thought this would be a franchise movie series, since there's literally nothing planned going forward.
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>>80772487
>>80767936
>>80767306
Judy pls
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>>80770367
>that Enya
what the fuck
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>>80772901
Why is it that the films Disney plans on not being a franchise series end up being the most successful financially?

Wasn't Frozen also seen as sort of the 'cheap follow-up' to the more expensive Tangled? Same with the "not expected to be a big hit" Lion King being released before the movie Disney planned on being big at the box office - Pocahontas.
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>>80772901
It's still better for them to leave it open. They spent so much on marketing, franchise potential isn't something to be discarded in the name of telling something with more artistic integrity.
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>>80771675
"Fear always works." is a favorite of mine.
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>>80772901
>>80772924
What were their plans with Lilo and Stitch? That got a sequel and a cartoon. And an anime.
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>>80772822
>No one is going to think. "Oh my gosh he must be from Inkbunny, Martha hide the kids." if they see you in line for a movie, they're thinking, "Gee did I get enough butter on the popcorn? Fuck, did I pay that bill? What do I want for dinner tonight?", they don't even know what a furry is if they haven't seen that Law and Order episode lately.
>You are not that special and the only person judging you is you.
This is so fucking true. This is how I fight off social anxiety and it works. No one really fucking cares and no one will remember your face, unless you cause a scene.
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>>80771750
I've said it before but I'll say it again, I think Disney made the right call here. We're going, "Wow, such dark! So mature!" but between the slave collars and the bleak tone I feel like the current model of Zootpia's more nuanced and surprising honest about predjuice and the kind of urban corruption that makes a good cop movie.

Collar Zootopia's a mallet, and I really like that Disney went subtle (for an animated movie staring a talking rabbit and fox) in this case.
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>>80772955
Not sure.

All I know is that it was a surprisingly good film, and Chris Sanders is based.

Also John Lasseter apparently didn't like it, and I still dislike him and am tired of the constant modern-Disney circle-jerk sans Zootopia (which I really liked a lot).
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>>80771926
They're LYING, Jim. They make money hand over fist and lie about costs so as to appear to make less money so they can keep more of it.
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>>80772924
In my opinion it's the teams. Disney is a shitty, greedy company that wants to make money. I'm sure the execs have their hand deeper in the bigger budget titles, making sure the movie stays as safe as possible and removing a even bigger chunk of creative freedom than is already gone.

While Disney is shit, they know how and who to get to make good ass movies.
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>>80771915
again did we like get this "This thing the thread about's failed/canceled haw haw!" thing from /tv/? I don't remember us being this into the "THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOU!" game a few years ago.
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First for Nick is CUTE.
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I'm a furfag and only watched it for Nick

was not disappointed
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>>80772371
"Let the hype burn out on its own the movie's been out for a week."
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Is the Kindle edition the so called PDF of the artbook, or is it a different thing?
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>>80768041
8/10, write a fic friend
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>>80773015
That actually makes a lot of sense.

Guess that's another reason why Marvel films don't really do it for me as a whole (entertaining but generic on every front from a film P.O.V.). The only one that seemed to stand out even a little was GoTG, and I think it might be because Gunn had more creative freedom.

That's why I'm thinking Zootopia will be the best Disney film this year.

Finding Dory is gonna make $$, but Pixar hasn't had a whole lot of luck with their non Toy Story sequels when it comes to critics. Also Moana probably has much more money and executive involvement that'll end up making it a generic musical that feels more like a studio film whereas Zootopia, while still a studio film, has enough quirks and wit to seem like those individuals behind it loved what they were doing.

Like I said, I normally rail against Disney and hate the constant barrage of attention they get on Social Media (and that they seem to have bought off film critics and the Oscars... ESPECIALLY the Oscars) and elsewhere... so the fact that I liked Zootopia says a lot.
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>>80773031
Name an animal in Zootopia that isn't cute
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So if you Google "Zootopia" and then after click on the search bar, you get this...
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>>80770367

that was funny.
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>>80773047
>be me
>watch Zootopia
>Judy comes on - adorable as fuck
>Okay, maybe I am a bit of a furfag but at least it's a girl...
>Nick comes on screen
>turns out to be one of the most emotive animated characters I've ever seen
>..... fuck.
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>>80773111
Gazelle.
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>>80773122
>he doesn't know that google adjusts to what you search
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>>80773080
The Kindle edition is a Kindle file (azw3), and it looks AWFUL!
That's a direct file from the Kindle edition. Had to get a refund because it looks so bad! Ordering the hardcover already.
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>>80771675
"Never let them see they get to you."
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>>80764352

it's all because he's a fucking lion.

they pretend to be leaders, but in reality they are nothing more than lazy fucks who give no shit.

he forced bogo to accept judy at his police station to get some bunny votes.
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>>80773122
It's this for me. Google knows you're a deviant, so it changed its results to suit you.
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>>80773031

he looks more handsome to me, than cute.

or maybe both.
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>>80773232
>it's another tumblr autistic headcanon
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>>80773241
This is what I get on a fresh browser without any cookies.
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>>80773205
Holy carrots! This indeed looks terrible!

Thanks for warning me. I was just about to order it.
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>>80772845
Somes where saying it was incredibly new, innovative and original from WDAS to use talking animals to introduce racism and prejudice subjects, toned them down it wasn't new as Blacksad already did it, they got mad.

I could have pulled the previous inspirations done by WDAS before from the closet, like TLK/simba, Frozen/Ss, Inside out/herman head, but that could have lead me to an ip ban.
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>>80773241
That's odd as fuck, because I've never searched anything like that.

I even cleared my history a few hours ago.
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>>80773122
bullshit, i should definitely have furry in it
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I'm a vet and i'm already seeing a surge of people bringing in their rabbits for malnutrition because the kids feeds them nothing but carrots

thanks zootopia
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>>80773287
is the russian loves vodka thing a meme?
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Where to, sir?
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>>80773274

nothing you've seen be-fur, anon
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>>80773276
Google knows you, anon. You can't hide your deviant ways from Google.
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>>80773299

page 10, mr. manchas!
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>>80773302
I'll blame /co/
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>>80773299
my bed
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>>80773325
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>>80773293

any foxes overstuffed with blueberries?
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>>80773293
To be fair, that's not Zootopia's entire fault. It's even good we see the rabbit family having more produce other than carrots.

It's just that cartoons always do that shit. Rabbits mainly eat carrots, coconuts have no skin, bananas are not in bunches, etc. It annoys me a bit.
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>>80773298
Alcoholism in general is a problem. Cheapest king of alcohol is vodka. You get the idea.
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>>80773346
>>80773338
>>80773330
I SWEAR IF THAT GODDAMN SMUG FOX EVER SHOW UP AGAIN...
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>>80773293
Did the rabbits turn orange?
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>>80773387
>you will never be this smug

Why even fucking bother.
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>>80773379
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>>80773346
>be Disney
>say character looks smug because of their past
>reality is character has bedroom eyes meant to turn kids into furries
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>>80773387
>>80773399
>>80773401
We don't serve foxes here, sir.
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You know they could still use the collar thing for the sequel.

Judy and her parents may have come around but there has to be generations upon generations of all different species of prey that still wont necessarily trust a Predator. Especially since Zootopia was a really big settlement, news may not travel fast or not at all. One of the most recent mayors being a predator and a convict also doesn't settle well.

This would also obviously give our leads motivation to stop this movement and just like in the original script, force Judy to decide where her loyalties lie as she wants to save her predator friend but also enforce the law.
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>>80773416
I'd serve Nick.
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>>80773416
Well then fuck your establishment
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>>80773348
Does anyone have an image of this stand from the movie? I'm wondering what else was specifically listed for sale.
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>>80773379
>>80773423
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>>80773430
Someone shop Judy out of that picture.
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>>80773387
Every fucking day. Every singly fucking day this little faggot just sits there and gives me this smug look on his face.
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>>80773387
>>80773401
>>80773423
>>80773445
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>>80773434
>you'll never buy veggies from Judy
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>>80773338
foxes make awful pets because they can escape very easily and are way too smart.

Honestly it should be a crime to keep foxes as pets, they are so pretty in the wild.
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>>80773517
and what about foxes bred for captivity?
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>>80773507
how in the fuck did they get Judy's hands so cute and nice

a tip, a hat tip, for those who worked on them
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>>80773517
Russians have bred them as pets. They are more manageable but still needs more effort than dogs. Other fox pet sources are ruses and are not for pets.
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Can someone post that picture of Judy in striped panties cuddling/playing with Nick, also in boxers?
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>>80773517

I agree with half of what this person says. Nobody should own a fox unless they have a huge backyard that they can roam around in.
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>>80768041
I read Honey's voice in a very sassy black lady's voice.
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>>80773648
Nick as a female would be top waifu.

Judy as a male wouldn't be interesting, neither sympathetic. Only tolerable.
At least with the movie plot.
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>>80772897
CALL ME A DUMB, SLUTTY BUNNY

Poor Nick, he's just a vanilla guy who want to cuddle.
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>>80772897
That would make a good drawing
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i want to pet nicks ears
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If there happens to be a sequel, what would your reaction be if Nick got muzzled?
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>>80774219
>>80774233
>bunny boobies
When will it stop?!
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>>80774307
dat face
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkU9aYBrkz0
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>>80773122
Speak for yourself
furfag
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>>80774404
damn bunnies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1IyH3i2_oc
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>>80774388
Am I the only one that's bothered by stuff like this?
I don't know why, I think it's just kinda annoying.
I get that it reflects some issues, like prejudice and whatnot, but it's completely different from the stuff we have.
There's really no races, unless you count prey and predators, and there's a plethora of animals with their own prejudices against them.
There's no social media crap to go along with it all as well.
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>>80774388
>Youtube
I'm sick of that topic as it is, but add on the Youtube factor and you're just asking for garbage



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