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If Nick earns $200 a day and doesn't pay taxes why is he living under a bridge?
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Nobody wants to rent to a fox. The Elephant didn't even want to sell him a Popsicle.
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>>80709157
Maybe he buys lots of useless shit.
Or he was lying.
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Who would rent to someone who claims they don't have an income?
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>>80709157
He give his money to his mom.
His mother is poor, remember the boyscout scene and his uniform.

>>80709390
You mean he has to pay blackmarket prices to get his everyday stuff?
Outragious!!
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Wasn't he living under a bridge AFTER Judy busted his popsicle ring? Therefore no more income?
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Have you even owned/rented a house? Usually the owner/landlord goes through your salary and other stuff. Nick would been caught out, like he did with judy
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>>80709157
50% or more would go to Finnick
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>>80709157
He give half of it to Fennick. So it isn't exactly 200$ a day.
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>>80709551
>>80709590
Didn't see see in the movie he only got a $40 cut?

Which is weird since it's his van and he is the one that has to dress up as a baby.
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>>80709447
>His mother is poor, remember the boyscout scene and his uniform.
Don't make me anon ;_;
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>>80709157
Just because you have the money, doesn't mean that people will be willing to do business. Just ask non-white potential home buyers in the 1950s.

>Oh, you may have the money but we have "codes" that keep people like you out of this neighborhood. You can go live with the other people that look like you, Mr. Fox.

It's partially a reason why chinatowns and predominantly black or hispanic neighborhoods exist.
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>>80709157
>under the bridge
He lives in an apartmanet based on the concept art, and he probably didn't earn EXACTLY 200$ a day. And since he pay Fennick 50%, he earn less. Like in the actual movie, he payed him 60$ so he probably only earned 120$ as a whole.
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>>80709738
I want to see Nick drawn as Spike Spiegel.
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>>80709738
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>>80709157
to avoid taxes 2bh.

if you have a preperties, gov will notice you earn some money
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>>80709755
Reminds me of some of the apartments in FF7.
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Why does everyone think he lived under the bridge? I don't remember seeing much in the way of possessions down there, he just had a lawn chair set up near the bridge.
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>>80709755
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>>80709790
Most /co/s spend their lives at their designated chair.

If Nick's chair is there, thats where he lives.
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Better question; If Zootopia has sections set aside for smaller animals like rodents and such, why aren't there rodent police officers assigned specifically to those areas when it was shown that a creature the size of even a rabbit risks large amounts of property damage by just walking into the area?
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>>80709904
It wasn't like he was lounging on a chair on his patio. It was literally next to a bridge with no apartment anywhere nearby. We also never got to see where he lived. It's not insane for a viewer to wonder if Nick was homeless, especially since this scene was after Judy did her speech. I actually assumed he got kicked out of wherever he was living because he was a predator.
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>>80709972
Just becasue it wasn't spelled out to you, doesn't mean there isn't such thing. Same with birdman and reptiles. They may be evolved but just not shown. The point of the movie wasn't to explain ENTIRE philopsophy behind theit univerese.
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>>80709972
Imagine how you'd feel if, when someone broke the law, Godzilla attacked the entire city.

Nobody who values their life is going to break the law, and the rest of the city isn't gonna look kindly on people who consider it.
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>>80709904

A+ post
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>>80710178
>implying desperate mice criminals would care about the city
There is most likely a police force for smaller creatures. Why do people assume that something doesn't exist if it wasn't shown on screen? Do people assume that Nicks parents are dead and that Zootopia is the only city in their entire world just becasue the movie didn't spend 23 hours showing documentary about their world and how it works?
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>>80710216
You're taking an extreme position. Movies don't have to show everything, but they do have to show some things in order to maintain a cohesive setting.
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>>80710216
>Why do people assume that something doesn't exist if it wasn't shown on screen? Do people assume that Nicks parents are dead and that Zootopia is the only city in their entire world just becasue the movie didn't spend 23 hours showing documentary about their world and how it works?

I think all the characters are hollow because we are never shown their organs but also because I'm a 3D modeler.
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>>80709972
Better better question: Why did nobody actually shoot darts? Bellwether and her cronies talk about "darting" predators, but they're just shooting paintballs of serum. How would that even get in a predator's system that fast?

Did they replace the darts with paintballs just so Nick's fakeout would work?
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He spends it on drugs
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>>80709972
Impossible, that would mean that a mice serial killer would never get caught. it is neccessary for Zootopia to have additional police force and detectives that would cover the smaller creatures.
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>>80710307
darts remain evidence
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>>80710307
Disney cartoon, no guns or stabbing allowed.
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>>80709972
Everyone in Little Rodentia is paying "protection" to Mr.Big and is enforced by his familia.
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>>80710428
Judy gets a very severe leg wound at end though, blood and all, from accidentally stabbing herself.
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>>80710531
Accidents are different from intentionally hurting someone
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>>80710561
That otter mauled the panther and tore his eye out.
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>>80710569
Well you destroyed my argument. You have won.
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>>80710583
Gideon slashed Judy's face when they were 9 years old.
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>>80710694
I have admitted defeat and you continue your onslaught. You are an absolute mad man.
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>>80710705
Actually we're a bunch of different guys. Right now this argument is the equivalent of you being shoved to the floor and kicked by a bunch of strangers.
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>>80710569
>>80710694
>>80710711

YOU MONSTERS
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>>80709157
The IRS would bust his balls.
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>>80710711
So when do we pull out our dicks and make him blow us?
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>>80709619
Considering it's $15 for an elephant sized popsicle, I think the price of living is cheaper when they're smaller.
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>>80709157
Nick is the sort of guy who got the idea of dealing a heavy insult to a mafia don for what could not be more than a few bucks. Most likely he made a few terrible investment decisions along the way or messed with the wrong people.

Or he just spends it all on gambling, weed and whores.
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>>80712688
Also, in Zootopia, you're free to eat whatever plants and animals not found on private property for sustenance.

>>80712949
>Nick is the sort of guy who got the idea of dealing a heavy insult to a mafia don for what could not be more than a few bucks.

Yeah, that was pretty fucked. Brutal as he can be, Mr. Big seemed to be one of the more reasonable crime bosses out there. Anyone else would have outright murdered Nick for tricking them into using furry garbage as their grandma's burial shroud.
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>>80710856
Zootopia Internal Taxation Services

or ZITS
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>>80713472
Zootopia Infringements and Taxation Service works too, considering the same body is usually responsible for collecting fines and taxes (oh the irony).
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>>80713472
Finnick: Ha-ha. You guys are Zits!
ZIT Stooge: The T also stands for Taxidermy.
(opens briefcase)
Finnick: I mean, you guys are Z-I-T-S guys.
ZIT Stooge: Better.
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>>80709755
>>80709795
>>80709738
>STILL bigger than Judy's apartment
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>>80709157
>If Nick earns $200 a day and doesn't pay taxes why is he living under a bridge?

If that's the case then that's probably exactly why.

Homeless people rake in a lot of untaxed income. A daily take of $200 for a homeless guy panhandling is about right, at least if Orlando, FL can be taken as a metric.
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>>80712626
>give him a kiss

m/f?

i wonder if nick has any fangirls... we all want to _hug the bunny, but what about the fox?
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>>80713873
I want to hug the fox.
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>>80713873
i bet nick has a lot more fanboys than fangirls
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post more fox
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>>80714025
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This is the first time I've been in these generals and actually read the fan fiction
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>>80714432

this is a christian board!
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>>80714025
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>>80710293

This film actually defined, refined, and proved a set of new algorithms for graphics that ensure everything on the screen is full of organs.

Pretty neat.
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>>80714670

that's.... kind of gross.
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>>80709157
If an A press is an A press, why can it be a half A press?
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>>80712990

I wondered about that. So, fur skin rugs are legal in their universe? Because if everyone's sentient then that's pretty equivalent to a crafting stuff with human skin.
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>>80709157

Hookers & Blow
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>>80714716
You shut your faggot mouth, boy
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>>80713873
I'd have sex with that fox desu, he has such charming eyes.
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>>80714716
how so?
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>>80714718
GET THE FUCK OUT HENRY
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>>80714718
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Why would Judy, a police officer, remain friends with a violent criminal (Mr. Big). Isn't that like an example of corruption?
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>>80714998
>>80714958

ever wore a skinsuit of another man?
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>>80715230

why would a common plant make animals go crazy?

it's a kid's movie, duh!
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>>80715230
>Isn't that like an example of corruption?

Yes, but Judy is too naive and good-natured to see it that way
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Do you guys think the sequels will explore the possibility of other cities inhabited by sentient reptiles or birds?
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>>80710569
To be fare his eye wasn't torn out, just badly injured. You can see both eyes intact when he's darted.
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>>80715243
No,but i was never a cute bunny/fox
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>>80715146
APresstopia when
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>>80715230
>Why would Judy, a police officer, remain friends with a violent criminal (Mr. Big)
He doesn't want it sold near schools. He doesn't want it sold to children. He's an anti-villain.
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>>80715321
I'd rather see one about Zootopia: Ukraine.
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>>80709619

200$ a day, not 200$ a hustle.
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>>80713873

I'm a gril and I kind of want to drag my tongue over Nick's paw-feet
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>>80715321
Please no reptiles, please.

But I'd be curious about how they'd portrait birds in a realistic way.
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>>80709157
I thought his tax forms gave a place of residence. He doesn't so much live under the bridge as hang out there.
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I'd suck Nick dry. No homo, though.
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>>80715531

that's... kind of hot.
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>>80709972
I forgot who said it but it went something like this

Kids will see a singing crab and know real crabs dont sing and dont being up real life logic.

Long story short stfu and stop over thinking a kids movie you autist
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>>80715941
Grant Morisson said that.
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>>80710428
Tell that to Bambi's Mom. Also Tarzan's Dad
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>>80715321
>>80715533
I think birds, alongside fish and insects, are the meat animals.
And reptiles, amphibs, sharks and insect are the dangerous animals in their world.
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>>80716504
>frozen assets
heh
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>>80709972
>>80715941
Say that to the artists of Zootopia, they thought a lot deeper. And its just a kids movie they made.

Sometimes, its like "dont overthink stuff" but it can always be funny to spin the story or world forth. It keeps your grey matter healthy and creative.
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>>80716647
I'm kinda glad they got rid of that tuff of hair. It makes her look a lot more masculine.
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>>80716668
I would like to know the context of Darted Judy and Zombie Judy
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>>80714567
What fan fiction are you talking about?
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>>80713873
Nick is my favorite character
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>>80709157
Not sure if he was living there or if that's just the place he'd hang out after Judy made Zootopia worse for him. Even Finnick was laying low and was more on edge because of the current climate, though he may be the type to always answer the door with a bat ready.
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>>80716660
>you must be this small
This is discriminating against Chinchillas.
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>>80716668
>>80716712
Does Cory Loftis have a tranq fetish or something? That seems too specific to naturally come up more than once.
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>>80709972
Precinct 1 seems to cover all of Zootopia, but it's implied that there are other precincts in Zootopia.
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>>80716713
Attack on Titan is when?
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why is Manchas a qt
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>>80716882
It was probably a plot point in the first draft. You can see Nick trying to cut the cuffs with a knocked-out Judy dangling from them in this picture: >>80716504

That's probably how he escapes again. Something went wrong and Judy got tranq'd.
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>>80716786
Funny thing is, Nick was the main character.
But after test screening, the audience could relate heavily with Hobbs, so they made them both main casts, focused on her police carrer.
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>>80716758
thats looks delicious to bh
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>>80716873
Its safety law.
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>>80716952
I wonder why they made that concept of kid Clawhauser.
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Questions and concerns:
>Little Rodentia? Aren't rabbits rodents?
>Does Nick get away with felony tax evasion?
>How does nick not have a criminal record? If he does how is he a police?
>Judy comes off as stupid and reckless during the train chase.
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Can you believe at one point in the writing Nick was in prison?
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>>80716958
>hippo
>woodland creature
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>>80716971
Was he not a cop in the original concept? What was he supposed to be exactly? Kind of funny that it looks like a coincidence that he likes donuts and it's not just a cop joke.
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>>80716982
If they ever make a TV series, I want that TUSK guy to be a reoccurring character. With an Irish accent.
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>>80717050
rabbits are lagomorphs
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>>80714750
I think the equivalent is human hair as a wig. Fur grows back, and maybe sheep can donate for a few bucks. What about leather?
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>>80715146
Context?
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>>80717050
>How does nick not have a criminal record?
His hustles follow the letter of the law as close as possible, and Judy presumably never told anyone about his tax evasion.
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>>80717050

-rabbits are lagomorphs.
-Judy's a Mafia godmother and Nick has the evidence with him.
-Nick apparently is very smart in his hustles, even got the permits and everything
-Judy was aching to prov herself that she become's a lose cannon
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>>80716686
Yeah, I'd be pretty happy too with a trio of cute arctic servitor vixens pawing all over me.
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>>80717050
>>How does nick not have a criminal record? If he does how is he a police?
Only if its in the comp system. I think its because of his help that he got a pardon. Like thunderbolts to redeem himself or to show criminals can turn good.
Remember the neck thing in the end? it looks like the thing he wore in the sketches in prison outfit.
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>>80717084

>Nae Scottish
Weenie Welshman detected
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>>80709157
MUZZLE
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>>80717050
Other than the tax evasion, he did everything legally.
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Also people forget the nice detail on his application form. He had "criminal record" originally Yes but changed to No.
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>>80716718
When character artists draw a character, they draw the character from situations that make sense from the pitched idea of the character to personal ideas that the artist has. Zombie Judy is purely the artist having fun and Darted Judy is probably just Judy getting darted by criminals or whatever.
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>>80717050
Rabbits aren't rodents.

Apparently.

He found all the loopholes he needed to get by before he was an adult. No criminal record.

Judy trying to take the train back on the tracks as if that isn't the most dangerous thing in the world was pretty dumb, but she thought she was doing it for the greater good.
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>>80716893
We just can guess how far the world is and how many districts there are.
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>>80717226
We know theres also a district for nocturnal animals
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>>80717147
>tfw we never got to see Nick in Little Rodentia
The wood delivery scene was nice tho
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>>80717093
Apparently leather doesn't exist, it's why they went with the materials they did for Judy's outfit.
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>>80717226
Canyon Lands are more than likely part of Sahara Square, being that they're the same ecosystem.
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>>80717256
Sad only its not really stated in the movie nor through official sketches.

So i wont write it in.
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>>80709157
He probably doesn't work every day.
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>>80717335
>Happy town
>all buildings are gray and ugly
Poor predators
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>>80717313
Yeah wasnt sure since they used the same font format.
It looks like Yosemety park, with the captured animals.
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4166&p=.htm

>Dropping only 33.4%, Zootopia is the #1 film for the second weekend in a row as its domestic cume has now climbed to $142.6 million. Internationally the animated feature took in an additional $83.1 million, which is actually up 25% from last weekend. The jump is largely due to the estimated $56.5 million it brought in this weekend in China, an increase of a whopping 139% as its global cume now stands at $431.3 million.

Zootopia had an even smaller second week dropoff than predicted. Say it with me:

ONE BILLION DOLLARS
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>>80717335
Happytown kind of reminds me of those underground slums in the anime Metropolis movie. Colorful and broken down, probably had been a nice place in ye olden days.
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>>80717402
I think its more like the Bronx.
And at least they had the "Wildtimes" amusement center for predators build by Nicks father
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>>80717423
Don't know about that. How many movies reach that mark? Still, studios get a smaller cut from theaters the longer it stays in theaters.
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>>80717423
ONE TRILLION DOLLARS
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>>80716900

I kept expecting her to be the true villain of this, a lot of the marketing focused on this character.
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>>80717423
We haven't even reached .5 billion yet and its out in most territories.

Short of it getting a big second wind like Frozen did, I don't think its gonna reach 1 billion. Though theres nothing wrong with that, Frozen was a freak occurrence, It would be a horrible idea to try to expect all/any of your movies get the same earnings it did.
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>>80717502
What was the building in the background of Nick's under the bridge scene? I remember it looking like an old and dilapidated Wild Times.
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>>80717502
I'm pretty sure Nick built it himself. His father was a tailor
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>>80717553
I didn't even notice it. It might have been there as a reference to Wild Times, but I doubt it was supposed to actually be it.
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>>80717502
Everytime i see somebody about Nick's past my heart starts to hurt and tears roll out of my eyes.
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>>80717529
Don't forget, it still hasn't reached Japan yet. They might account for $50-100 million on their own.
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>>80717563
>>80717502
>>80717553
Wild Times was the prey simulator predators could go to and attack dummies?
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>>80717050
Judy was reckless. Judy's biggest flaw is over-confidence. That's why she keeps pissing people off and getting in trouble in the film.
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>>80717615
I don't know about that, but it looks just like predator fun and games. There was one of the strength testing games that measures how hard you can bite. That thing must be filthy.
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>>80717615
Nope, just amusement park with rollercoaster and other stuff.
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>>80717585
100 million for a country that small seems unlikely.
>>80717615
No, more like a themepark with rides and carnival games that were related to their instincts.
Like instead of one of those games where you hit a lever with a hammer to ring the bell, theres something you bite to ring the bell. And ball pits and stuff like that
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>>80709427
This is the correct answer. With his hush up income, he's probably renting some terrible place which is worse than the bridge.
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>>80709157
He sends a majority of his earnings to his mother in unmarked envelopes.
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>>80709790
It's a nice callback to his speech to Judy. Basically, people think he was projecting.
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>>80709157
> $200 a day
>7 days a week
> $1400 a week
>tax free

That is actually pretty good money.
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>>80717686
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>>80717726
Oh, interesting. Then what am I thinking about?
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>>80717423
A billion dollas
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>>80717793
Do you read fanfics?
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>>80717726
>>80717502

If I ever won the lottery I'd send it all to Disney and tell them to make more Zootopia, keeping only like 1 mil for myself.
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>>80717008
I want to marry that fox.
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Do we have a lot of non-english speakers itt? The posts are kind of different than usual. Just wondering btw.
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>>80717798
>FUCKS LIKE A LITTLE KID OUT THERE
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>>80709790
At the beginning hes talking about how Judy will end up living under a bridge. Later on, after everything went down, we see that he is hanging out under a bridge. And we don't see anywhere else he might be living, so the implication seems to be thats where he lives.

Seems Finnick is living out of his van, so it could be so
>>80717831
I'm not sure they would let you without lawyers getting involved. They wouldn't want you coming up later to say you deserve profits from the movie since you invested and stuff. Even if you say at first you won't, they gotta be careful that they don't get themselves into legal issues.
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>>80717846
I want to taste his pies
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>>80717856
I dunno about at this moment, but we've heard from anons from all different countries talking about the movie so its likely
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>>80709790
>>80717778
That's where he keeps his drinking chair. As society crumbled around him he was just going to sit in his comfy spot and watch, tumbler full of bourbon swirling in his hand.
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>>80717423

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nObH1R9ONw
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>>80717856
Russian here
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>>80713873
>watch movie
>spend most of the time looking at nick
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>>80715243
This isn't Silent of the Laaaaambs. I don't think they killed a real baby elephant to dress up Finnick either.
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>>80717846
I want to learn about Gideon's past and how he turned from little racist shit to decent person
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this thread needs other Nick.
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>>80717952
Judy has really nice shoulders.
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>>80717988
may he was punched by bigger animal like a goat....
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>>80717793
It was actually a darker place in some early drafts. Some reddit AMA revealed there was going to be stuff like a greyhound track with a bunny puppet, prey dolls that could be torn apart, and other stuff like that. Looks like they ended up toning it down and eventually just went and turned it into a family-friendly theme park kind of deal. But there were also lots of revisions for Wild Times, so that's to be expected. The latest iteration actually made it into the Guidebook and Cheese Caper novel.

I'd really like for Nick and Judy to end up visiting one of the older versions. Both would probably be very uncomfortable for their own reasons.
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>>80718019
Tiny Nick!
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Anybody got this art?
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>>80717124
Look up Psy101. Thank me later.
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>>80716637
>>80716647
>>80716658
>>80716668
>etc
Full download of the album scans, please? Also, wouldn't it be possible to rip the kindle version for larger high quality images?
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>>80718069
this art?
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>>80718095
The PDF isn't out for 2 more days and I don't think anyone is gonna want to scan all 160 pages
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>>80718161
It's kinda weird that they emphasized the iphone shit in the ads and then they were nowhere to be seen in the movie
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>>80718027
She reminds me of Samantha Wright for some reason.
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>>80717856
German
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>>80718161
Yea, thanks alot!
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>>80717793
I think one anon did a fanfic with dummys or something
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>>80716377

or Beast in Beauty and the Beast.
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>>80718199

false marketing. Judy uses her phone in proper way in the movie: Skype, recording etc.
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>>80717124

there's a fourth one. bet you can't guess why you can't see her.
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>>80717563
>>80717553
>>80717584
>>80717692
>>80717615
Its what art director Lechner wrote about it.
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>>80718204
They mentioned that made her more muscular to prevent her from looking too feminine/rabbit like.
She's /fit/ as fuck.
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>>80718233
Has anyone done a joke about the line waiting, feels like perfect timing with the DMV scene
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>>80717335
>Sad only its not really stated in the movie nor through official sketches.
It is stated in interviews though.
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>>80717988
Same. His story could be really nice, like maybe Judy became somewhat of his hero after he heard about how far she made it, but then he felt more neutral about her when she said that predators were going savage because it's in their DNA, but secretly felt that he was to blame for hurting her when they were kids. He's still kind of dumb (which may be where his self doubts came from; he thought he was supposed to be a clever fox) so his interaction with Judy boiled down to a rehearsed apology and an awkward attempt to forgive her and himself.
And don't get me started on his possible homosexuality.

Truly, this minor character warrants eva level character study.
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>>80718185
>PDF
Neat. Thanks for the info, /cop/! Will look forward to it while waiting for my copy to finally ship.
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>>80718204
wait is this the chick that snatched lmao2pl8?

fuck dude mirin hard
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>>80710178
As a person who lives in nyc that would be fucking awesome.
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>>80718286
They weren't trying to make her look less feminine-- they specifically said in the art book that they wanted to make her look strong without losing her femininity, which is why they gave her thick hips.
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I thought about a Vietnam War crossover. Judy will be perfect tunnel rat (or to be precise, tunnel rabbit). Weasels and otters will be gooks.
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>>80718300
Would be interesting.
Do you know which interview?
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>>80718199
Is Nick's even an iphone? It looks different.
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>>80718317
Well its not free FYI, its just a digital copy of the book.
I preordered it because I always feel bad reading art books that are hardbacked because I don't wanna crease them and shit. They always look so nice
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>>80718392
Wait a minute, that shirt...
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>>80717502
That bridge in the movie looked like it's in the dilapidated Happytown.
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>>80718333
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>>80718383
Looks like a Samsung or Sony one to me.
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>>80718406
Do people actually wear shirts with hastags on them
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>>80718199
Well Judy uses hers fairly often, but yeah Nick's was nowhere to be seen.

I suppose its for the best, if it had been overdone like the ads implied, it would date the film pretty hard
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>>80714716

Fuck your shit. That's adowable!
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>>80718356
Oh good, I heard it wrong then.

>Which is why they gave her thick hips

Oh gods yes.
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>>80718027
>>80718204
Fit judy is perfect
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>>80718392
>>80718406

Why would they wear those shirts? Otherwise, cute.
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>>80718437
It's interface looks rather iOS-ish (namely during the skype call with her parents) and the ring tone sounds a lot like one of the default tones on iphones
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nick is super cute i wish he was my bf
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>>80718451
Sometimes as like part of a joke perhaps but not otherwise
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>>80718464
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You just know that we need a AAA sandbox Zootopia game, with good gameplay, engaging story and drawing-like visuals.
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>>80717856
German.

I watched the British version ("Zootropolis") though.
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>>80718433

it felt like they were going steady or something.
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>>80718481
Judy's is an iPhone from Carrot (they show the symbol a lot). I was commenting on Nicks in the promotion art here >>80718161
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>>80717856

polish here, duh.
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I want Nick to tease Judy while cuddling and kissing her
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>>80718161
>>80718383
Makes sense that Judy has an iphone. Nick seems like a person who would have a zenfone?
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>>80718530
Meh
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>>80718524
Judy "Eat Meat, Get Beat" Hopps
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>>80718432
>that one episode where Judy travels to a parallel universe where she never left the farm and Bellweather won
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>>80718481
We're talking about Nick's, whhich was never used in the movie. Judy's obviously is a iPhone.
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>>80718543
I'm like 90% sure they will be a couple by the end of the sequel. I'm pretty sure its what most people want.
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>>80718530
I'd take something more linear, but good writing would be appreciated.
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>>80716910
He just is.
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>>80717988
I want this too.

>>80718303
He didn't seem dumb as an adult, just as a kid when he mispronounced DNA. The gay thing is totally possible.

I want a qt country fox husband to cook good food and cuddle with.
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>>80718429
It could be.
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>>80718641
>>80718530
Yeah, Linear would probably be the better choice because they can focus on making every area unique and interesting
Thats much harder to do in an open world setting.
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>>80718621
But that's predictable anon, they'd probably add a new character for the sake of being self aware
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>>80718408
>Well its not free FYI
I don't mind giving Disney more money for Zootopia. I just want a digital version for drawing on PC and didn't know there will be a official one.
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>>80718609
Holy shit that could be amazing.
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>>80718623
This is better with Bellwether and the Mayor
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>>80718695
Nothing wrong with being predictable sometimes. Its a relationship, not a plot twist.
>>80718706
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BL4ELGC/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1
Yeah, you can either get the digital version or the physical version here. Its Kindle though, so I suppose its not a drm-less pdf unless you can remove it from Kindle.

I don't use the program enough to know if thats a thing you can do.
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>>80718463

She's Chun-Li tier, pretty strong core as well, we see her doing crunches like crazy
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So how far was Honey intended to be /pol/?
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>>80718464
we can see Nick's address on the filled out form

we need a webm of it
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>>80718708
The collars are pretty much what would happen if she won if you think about it.
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>>80718406
You are so adorbs, Nick.
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>>80718690
>>80718641
Noir point & click adventure by Telltale?
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>>80718764
>That shirt
I mean you can see what they were trying to do, but they really should have tried again
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Rabbits on this concept-art look so creepy, like hordes of soulless drones. I'm glad this concept didn't make it to the movie.
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>>80718787
I'd play it. I'd play the hell out of it.
Would you alternate characters like GoT or just play as one with the other doing commentary like Sam and Max?
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>>80718787
Why not just make it L.A. noire with animals?
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>>80717055
Ikr.
>>80716925
>>80716713
>>80716700
>>80716668
>even in an early pitch, hopps and nick had a great buffy dynamic
>I really wanted to tell this story
tfw the real zootopia never came out

I love the original judy

>>80716504
I like how it is clear that nick and judy hated each other at first. I wonder how they got cuffed like that.

>>80717147
>Remember the neck thing in the end? it looks like the thing he wore in the sketches in prison outfit.

what neck thing? what end?

>>80718466
I wonder if wild times was legal or not

>>80718708
nick was supposed to be the main character. he wasnt. why live

>>80717584
same. I feel like the real zootopia never came out.
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>>80718609
I liked the episode where Nick had to babysitt Judys brothers and sisters.
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>>80718787
Actual adventure or Telltale adventure? I want puzzles for fucks sake.
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>>80718797
Its just concept art, they probably would have come out looking more alive.

Though I hear they would have played up a few darker elements of the "lots of rabbits" thing, like Judy's dad not remembering her name. Thats what someone here said at least
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>>80718761
I hope she ends up in the sequel, and turns out to be really good at putting evidence together and drawing conclusions, instead of just being a crazy, wacky conspiracy type.
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>>80718668
He's still a simpleton. A charming simpleton, but he doesn't come off as all that smart. Unless he was making a joke about Judy speaking in tongues.
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>>80718775
Yeah I'm pretty sure that this was what they were thinking in regards to the story. Rather than use the dystopian world where predators are oppressed, the villain's goal was essentially to create it. After enough months of maulings I believe that Bellwether was going to announce the shock collar / tracking program for predators in order to keep the city safe.
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>>80718787
If it's Sam and Max style, sure. Those first two games had some good gags to them, and it's been a while since we had a nice simple adventure game and not "THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE MATTERS"
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>>80718761
maybe in the end the badger was right
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>>80718843
Was cute as fuck
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>>80718838
I seem to remember them saying that he had something that could disable collars so predators could enjoy Wild Times, but I dunno if that was ever true or not. If it was, then that would presumably be illegal. Otherwise I can't see why it would
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>>80718843
And she invited him in her room.
Lewd!!!!
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>>80718865
he has a phone with a slide physical keypad.
He is not worth talking aboujt.
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>>80718865
Because he dresses like a fuckboy.
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>>80718861
She could be one of the ZPD detectives.
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>>80718903
>tshirt and jeans
>Dresses like a fuckboy

Well what do you wear then?
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>>80718886
But not as cute as their houses
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>>80718843
>That later episode where seven of Judy's sisters visit her in Zootopia and they all ask Nick out on a date
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>>80718937
Utility work kilt and a poncho.
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>>80718761
>>80718861
For some reason, I'm glad she was cut. Her conspiracies would sound too obvious or out of place, and I have a feeling it would kind of ruin the pace.
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>>80709157

He's not living under a bridge.
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>>80718937
Trench coat and fedora, like a true gentleman.
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the amount of effort put into the design
but then they scrapped it
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>>80718900
I take it she just sleeps on the chair
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>>80718886
I hope they revisit the whole "Nick visiting the family" thing. They said that there was gonna be a Guess Who's Coming to Dinner esque scene that they had planned but had to cut. THat tweet made it seem like they still wanted to do it. Sequel seems like the perfect time
>Judy takes Nick to see the family
>The kids love him but the adults are wary of him
>Even though Judy's parents are working with a fox, they arne't quite okay with their daughter dating one

I want this.
I wonder whether the scene was for the first draft or the newer one? I imagine it must have been the first one since we know Nick ends up in Judy's house in that one, and in the new script Nick never even leaves Zootopia.
It it was the old draft, that makes seem even more likely they were more blatantly a couple in the end
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>>80718861
I hope if they make a sequel, she is in.

>>80718882
She was. Or was assistant mayor Bellweather just the tip of the iceberg?
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>>80718787
>by telltale
So a pick-up every item and only use them when the game tells you with a railroaded story?
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>>80719011
A lot of the stuff they did still went into it. And shit gets cut all the time from just about every movie under the sun.

The bunny stuff was probably the biggest amount of content cut, just about everything in Zootopia still figured into the final product in some way.
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So when are we going to get a Zootopia animated series? Would it be 2D or would they do 3D animated with lower quality, possibly with cell shading or something to mask it?
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>>80719011
>Stanton suggested a radical change. “Let’s take a chance just for a moment to see what happens if we flip the main characters and put the more idealistic Judy in the driver’s seat so the audience learns about Zootopia through her more optimistic eyes, then bring in Nick’s cynicism and challenge to her philosophy later.”

>“That really did the trick,” notes Howard. “It was kind of a chiropractic adjustment: the pieces are there; you just have to kind of go snap! then everything starts to flow. Okay, we figured out the problem -- now we have to tell the crew things they’ve been working on for years are no longer in the movie. It was a big task for them to try something new; their eyes started to twitch…”
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>>80718937
Preferably a mask to hide the ugliness. As for what I should wear? Don't know
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>>80719011
tfw they make it sound like it wasn't THAT frustrating.
tfw they are actually very frustrated.
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Also, regarding that Nocturnal District.

>Zootopia doesn’t address a question audiences who pay attention to that sort of thing might ask: if it’s an all-mammal city, where are the reptiles? Where are the birds?

>“Right now we’re just seeing the mammal continent,” says Bush, “but we also built out the world itself. There are other places we don’t go to. We always thought there’s probably a reptile continent somewhere, the birds are going to be somewhere different, but we had to focus it to mammals for this one. Also the different boroughs that you see? Right now we have five [Little Rodentia, Tundratown, Sahara Square, The Burrows and the Rainforest District], but we built out probably ten of them that we didn’t get to go to, like Outback Island and the nocturnal district. I loved Outback Island so, so much, to be able to take advantage of the Australian animals and all the marsupials.”
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>>80718838
>tfw the real zootopia
It seems, the first draft was more "criminal accused for the wrong thing, must redeem with the help of the one police woman that believe him"
Maybe in Zootopia 2 the draft will be used?
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>>80719088
>now we have to tell the crew things they’ve been working on for years are no longer in the movie. It was a big task for them to try something new; their eyes started to twitch...

I want to die
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>>80719086
I would prefer a series over a sequel too but i'm afraid we are on the minority
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>>80719129
>Goto Outback Island
>AY M8 WHAT THE BLOODY FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE, I SWEAR ON ME MUM ILL HOOK YA RIGHT IN THE GABBER YA PISSHEAD
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>>80719157
Well Nick is already a police officer, so the "redemption" aspect is kinda out the window.
I could see him getting framed for something though.
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>>80719086
More likely to be 2D but considering that they'd only have to model the city once and then have 80% of their setpieces finished for the entire show, 3D could actually be a lot cheaper.
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>>80719129
So there's a different continent for birds?

Zootopia confirmed in the same universe as Angry Birds?
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>>80719011
This is the norm for film, novels, video games, etc. Which is why they've started releasing "The art of" books nowadays, to capitalize on the massive amounts of concept art they've made.

I'm writing a sci-fi novel, and I've gone through three revisions so far, and am probably on the verge of my fourth revision.
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>>80719189
3d would be cheaper. Get to reuse assets every episode instead of having to start over from scratch every time.
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>>80719167
>>80719104
>>80719088
Will Zootopia be the new Emperor's New Groove?
Absolutely amazing, but with a drop of bitter "what-if?" for eternity?
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>>80718900
What's with these pics where his stomach's covered with bandages? Any idea how he got hurt in this version of the story? And is this the same black eye that he has in that short deleted clip where the shock collar's been taken off?
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>>80719185


Nick's dad plays Nick's original role and its up to carrots and smug to save him.
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>>80717119
MISALIGNED THE QPU
BUILD SPEED FOR TWELVE HOURS
PARALLEL UNIVERSES IN MARIO 64
IT'S ALL TRUE
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>>80719157
>no more nick and judy hating each other before becoming best friends

>no more judy releasing nick from his collar

>no more nick being the main character

Its too late anon.
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Why was she so sad?
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>>80719157
well the falsely accused thing would, I think, have more impact once we already like the character and he's been given a position of respect already.

So Nick, a police officer, accused of a crime he didn't commit, must go on the run. Judy, his closest friend is caught between believing and trusting her best friend, of following the law.
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>>80717119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A
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>>80718838
>what neck thing? what end?
It seems like predators in the first story draft had to wear inhibitors or such things.

>I wonder if wild times was legal or not
It was illegal, they intended to make a secret entrancee >>80718466
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>>80719253
Oh. Great. Tumblr has arrived.
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Someone please explain the whole "Wild Times" amusement park to me. Was that going to be one of the original plot points back when Nick was the MC?
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>>80719086
Is there anything stopping them from just recycling assets from the movie? Obviously a show wouldn't have the same fidelity as the movie, but...
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>>80719209
This. It's normal for things to get scrapped in a creative project. I'm thankful the entire project/movie wasn't scrapped, like Mort or whatever that lizard movie was called.
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>>80718843

>that one bunny that's hugging around Nick's foot.

I'm jelly desu.
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>>80718695
>>80718621

I'm torn. While these two have better chemistry than any movie couple I can remember, I hate how male and female leads almost always have to get together by the end.

This and Pacific Rim made me so happy that the leads didn't get together.
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>>80719226
where did you get that picture?

>>80719209
yes, but zootopia was an extreme case. 5 years of concept and story building and the biggest concepts (wild times, collars) were scrapped out.
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>>80719253
Wouldn't it make more sense to have Nick as white and Judy as black?
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>>80719253

kill me
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>>80719223
The good thing about Zootopia is that the movie and the world are still absolutely satisfying, and the movie has a really huge chance to be followed by something, either a second movie or a tv series or even shorts. The scrapped ideas can still be used.
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>>80719168
I want both. Do a sequel but have a TV show to tide us over until it's out. If Disney greenlit Zootopia 2 today we'd see it in maybe 3 years at the earliest. If they greenlit a TV show we could see it on the air in less than a year.

It'd be great to see some of the other cops in the precinct getting their own unique personalities and backstories too, building them up as an actual supporting cast. That's something you can do in a TV show that you can't really do with a movie unless it's over 2 hours long.
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>>80719326
don't interact with people that post tumblr pictures.
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>>80719226
>>80719244
black eyes?

so what happened in the original story?
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>>80719326
>blacks outnumber whites 9:1
k
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>>80718530
It'd never happen, but the movie provides us with so much possibility for a game. We see Judy get over all sorts of terrain by sliding and jumping over obstacles and stuff, and I feel like that could be a big part of a game if they made one.
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>>80719326

With the whole, "Are you afraid of me?" and "You are different from them." Nick would be black and judy would be white.
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>>80719244
I still see Nick as a main character. Co-main character.

They did still hate each other a lot in the final movie.

The only downside is not seeing Judy giving Nick the sweet release from his collar.
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>>80719216
We're also approaching a point where it's getting a little easier to make 3D look good--or at last passable--on a TV budget. Dreamwork's 3D efforts have shown a lot of progress in rendering fur/hair (compared to their Penguin series), and having the stories take place in Zootopia mean working with a predefined set of environments, rather than having to develop new ones from scratch.

That said, it's still four (five?) types of environments, as opposed to the one or two most other 3D shows have. That would require a significant amount of initial investment.
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>>80719324
Someone posted it in some past Zootopia thread. I don't know where that anon got it from.
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>>80719357
I've got to just save this so I can post it in every thread because someone always asks.

Zootopia is extremely oppresive to predators. All predators must wear shock collars that will shock them if they act aggressive in any way.

Nick Wilde runs a underground nightclub/park thing where he is able to temporarily deactivate the collars to allow his patrons a opportunity and environment to act on their aggressive urges and get out all of that energy. Nick is eventually framed for a crime and goes on the run, in pursuit is Officer Judy Hopps.

Hopps, like most prey animals is all for the collars, thinking that all predators are just one step away from going savage. As she chases Nick she comes to realize that he isn't the one to blame for the crime and eventually they team up. Judy removes Nick's shock collar as well.

In the end they work together to try and save the city from whoever framed Nick, and free all the predators from their collars.

The writers didn't really like this ending because they felt that Nick had no reason to want to save the city. Instead they felt it would have made more sense for Nick and Judy to instead flee the city. Eventually they found that the themes they were trying to tell just weren't working with Nick in the lead, and instead made Judy the main character, letting us experience Zootopia the first time through adoring eyes, rather that from someone who hates it like Nick.
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>>80719018
Her bed is on the other side of the room, silly anon. ;)

>>80719226
I bet he got hurt by assassins. Since the story seemed to be some "conspiraty" thing or a showdown in the big stadium, where Nick thwart Bellweathers plan.
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>>80709470

The last three places I've rented haven't asked me a damn thing about where I get my income.
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>>80719244
Well we sorta had your first point. Judy didn't like that Nick basically scammed her and Nick wasn't happy to get dragged along with her investigation.

And Nick could be the focus character of the sequel.
>>80719357
Seems Nick got the crap kicked out of him at some point
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I've been to a Zootopia worldbuilding thread before. The thread was absolutely ruined by a tumblr humanized art. Just ignore it, please.
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>>80710307
>How would that even get in a predator's system that fast?
Dimethyl sulfoxide/ DSMO
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>>80718838
>I like how it is clear that nick and judy hated each other at first. I wonder how they got cuffed like that.
Ever see 39 Steps?
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>>80715941
>it doesn't have to make sense, just don't think about it!
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>>80719216
Not necessarily, though-- these days the line between 2D animation for TV and 3D is getting a lot thinner. With TV animation they actually rig them up much the way they would a 3D puppet, meaning that re-using animations from a library is easier and faster than it's ever been before. Most modern cartoons utilize this kind of setup in one way or another even if they appear to be 100% drawn from scratch.

I could see it going either way, honestly. I expect that if the show was going to be 3D animated they'd deliberately go with a more stylized look than the movie to compensate for the models being less detailed, possibly even using cel-shading for a pseudo-2D look. They could just as likely go 2D though, because the character designs they made for the movies would actually translate very nicely into a more simple looking 2D style.
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>>80719324
It's not that extreme and I've heard worse, although it is pretty sad to see these ideas go down the drain. Nothing's stopping them from reusing these now that the movie's really successful, which is the bright side of things.
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>>80718993
And it suits better as a sequel.
Like "The sheeps wont do it a second time" or "It wasnt Bellweather alone"
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>>80719244
What's the source of this?
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>>80710307
A dart would be move obvious than a liquid pellet. They would have to at the very least remove it from the target which would be hard since A:said target is now savage and B:would look wierd if in every instance a sheep was seen next to the savage animal
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>>80719326
Don't make humanizations. This story can't be recreated with the races of our world. There, problem solved.
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>>80719429
A lot of the "tumblr" art is just ironic shitposting, just hide & ignore it.
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>>80719429

I still say that city is a technological marvel having all those biomes so close to each other. It could be a 'showcase' city like that place in Avatar and everywhere else, species kept to themselves sans minorities like in the burrows
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>>80719412
well explained

but I was asking about the black eye
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>>80719492
It's the replies that are worrying.
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>>80709157
hookers, gambling, bribery
what else can you expect from foxes?
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>>80719475
a promo shown on Disney channel. Thats literally all we have of animation from the old draft. And no audio to go with it.
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I want a Zootopia prequel reusing the old plot

That means no Nick and Judy but I'm fine with that as long as we get all the dark shit from the concept art
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>>80719513
he got beat up
duh.
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>>80719385
>co-main character
That would be deuteragonist. (I actually just learned that word because of this movie...)
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>>80719539
I just want a Zootopia sequel already, period

It could be about the fucking railroad bridge entering the city for all I care
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>>80717856
Romania
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>>80719539

how would a prequel work?

like if the concept art stuff happened at some point we'd've heard about it
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>>80719539
And how, exactly, would you explain the state of Zootopia in the original movie if it was an oppressive speciest dystopia before?
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>>80719475
found it on /co/ it was when nick got his collar removed
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>>80719539
It would basically require them to reboot the story or have a timeskip since the current setting isn't really set to do such a story.
>>80719552
>>80719385
He's more of a secondary/supporting protagonist. We don't get any scenes with just him without Judy in the nearby area, and many scenes without him focusing on Judy.

I'm just hoping for the sequel they reverse the dynamic and push Nick into the lead with Judy as supporting protagonist.
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Is this a hybrid between a Chevrolet, Carbon E7 and Ford Interceptor concept?
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>>80717952
russian dub was pretty good
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>>80719129
Cool, the Outback district was seen in the first sketch of pre-Zootopia.

>Nocturnal
Thx anon for clearing that up.
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>>80719539

genius.

also pic related I bet judy is hiding behind the table and they are still tied up by the handcuffs. that is why nick is worried
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>>80719585
>>80719590
>set in past
>plot happens
>city renamed Zootopia

That's as far as I thought about it desu
I just really like the original setting
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>>80719584
what animal would gypsies be?
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>All this intriguing, charming, interesting, and deep lore in the concept sketches

I'm really about to cry knowing that Zootopia isn't real. I haven't stopped thinking about this movie since I first saw it. Ali I do now is wake up and browse the internet for any and all Zootopia information and content. I've even started keeping track of this stuff while at my desk at work.

What the fuck is happening to me, everything around me seems so dull and lifeless in comparison. I'm starting to lose interest in the petty pursuits of my friends and family. I want to live among animal people, because animals make better people than people.
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>>80719253
This projecting make me mad.
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>>80719605
Yeah, good point. We don't see him alone and the POVs are Judy's.

I would really want the sequel to have Nick as the lead too, with Judy the supporting one this time. Hopefully, it'll be easy for them to recycle the plot, like have Nick framed for something due to his not-so-legal past.

Shock collars would probably never be recycled. Shit's too dark.
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>>80719519

what a manchild

im so thankful he made my life less miseralbe for about two hours
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>>80719658
>Judy under the table
hey chikka bump bump
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>>80719526
AROUND SHEEP, NEVER SLEEP

WATCH YOUR BACK - RAM ATTACK
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>>80719658
I thiiink she might actually be on his head.
Not sure how that works out since I'm pretty sure they are still cuffed together
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>>80719412
I've been thinking about the collars a lot recently. The details on them are pretty vague; like them going off if the predator gets too "aggressive" or whatever. So that probably means that a predator gets fried the moment they get too angry. Maybe even if they just get too excited. Probably not if they're afraid, since that'd probably put a quick end to any escapes Nick attempts in the movie.

So what if the reason Nick is so smug, and cynical, and "never lets anyone see they get to him" in the first draft is the way he's learned to never get angry or excited enough for the collar to go off?
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>>80719667
go back to r9kl, fag
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honestly the original concept was interesting but it was way too fucking dark and depressing

it would have been, like, the schindler's list of disney movies. I like the characters too much to want to see them go through that. and the complaint they mentioned really applies; I'd be pissed if nick and judy didn't get the hell out of there.

the change also makes the race-relations themes better, too.
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>>80719621
Oh come on. Judy was abolutely emotionless at times. Nick Wilde's VO is absolutely glorious though.
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>>80719185
I thought more of a hunting past, see skunk arse hair carpet, or framing him.
He is a corrupt cop or accusing him to be still a criminal.
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>>80719709
>bunny tail

holly shit I did not notice that. nice observation
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>>80719709
>I thiiink she might actually be on his head.
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>>80719303
For the bunny or Nick?
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>>80719662
if that happened judy's play in the beginning would have mentioned the horrible period of apartheid

not the mention the pendulum would have swung enough to make anti-predator prejudice more taboo
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>>80719784
don't bother, he didn't think any of this prequel idea through.

he's probably george lucas
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>>80719746
We don't see Nick commit any corruption in the five minutes we see him as a cop
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>>80719667
same. The feeling is weird.

just listen to nick's spotify playlist, it will ease the pain actually it will finish you off, it fits the old concept so well
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>>80719773
>>80719709
>>80719658
>>80719704
bow chicka bow wow
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>>80719727
I didn't notice judy was emotionless though her acting was really poor in the apology scene just like in the original
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>>80719784
>judy's play in the beginning would have mentioned the horrible period of apartheid
because plays for/by little kids never paper over the darker moments in history
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>>80719709
>>80719759
So Judy's face/headsitting?
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>>80719842
thems fighting words you son of a bitch
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>>80719773
FLUFFY bunny feet
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>>80719845
BLOOD BLOOD GUTS BLOOD AAAAAAAH blood
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>>80719256
Because she wasn't appreciated.
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>>80719869
I want to rub them for luck.
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>>80719294
The thing is, the amount of rendering power required to actually use the movie's assets in the show would make it prohibitively expensive for TV. And it's actually cheaper to just rebuild everything from scratch with lower detail than it is to try and downscale models that are that dense. There are some art assets that they can re-use but for the most part they'd be starting from the ground up.
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So let's talk about something, would your job in real life be... useful in Zootopia

>Mine: Meteorologist
Since they somehow mastered climate control, unless severe weather still occurs, no.
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>>80719842
>just like in the original
That crying apology sounded too real, man. I know I would sound like that
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>>80718787
>Play as new police recruit
>Play half of game being trained by Nick and Judy
>Approach a point in the middle where you have to save one of them
>Character you don't save dies
>Play rest of game with survivor, watching them cope with other's loss, learning new techniques/skills from them
>Save the city, but not without sacrifice
>Play again, this time your character is finishing their sentences and connecting the dots
>Someone spies on you in both routes
>He pulls you aside on another playthrough:
>"You're supposed to save them both."
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>>80719412
Nice summary.
And its really dark and one-sided.
Maybe they considered it too mature for the whole family.
And thought, all should face prejudices? Small animals, predators, Chubbies.

And it seems, Clawhauser was intended to be some security at the Wildtimes. Some anon asked how Clawhauser ended in the movie.
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>>80719946
>LPWAN engineer

As long as Zootopia's companies find IoT and remote metering attractive, I should do just fine.
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The more and more I think about, the more I love the idea of Judy and Nick together.
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>>80719883
Killing and death is somehow easier to talk about than oppression and bigotry. I suppose its because death is more "Natural" we see it in everything while oppression is less so.
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>>80719977
tobyfox pls go
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>>80719946
>drawfag
meh
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>>80719956
We are talking about russian dub. Do you?
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>>80716504
Creators confirmed there are bird and reptile cities.

Fish and bugs are the main sources of meat.
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>>80719918

i'd be surprised if there wasn't any Rule34 of Judy giving Nick a Lucky Rabbit's Foot Job.
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Which Zootopia do you prefer?
original plot or new plot?

http://strawpoll.me/7074551
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>>80719977
sounds like a bad time

also what's reference?
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>>80719621

Compared to our usual standards of dubbing? Yes.

Looking at it objectively? No. Besides the translators stumbling on the simplest things that have a direct equivalent in Russian, like Mr. Big's "icing" people, some lines were so blurred that I didn't even get what Bellwether's nickname was supposed to be. Nick's VA was the main saving grace.
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>>80719977
Are we stines gate now?
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>>80720011

took me too long to realize these are supposed to be Smug and Carrot's kids.
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>>80720048
shit forgot pic for attention

http://strawpoll.me/7074551
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>>80719261
>this entire fever dream of a video
You finally made a monkey out of me.
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>>80719977
I was irked at the "one of them dies" that telltale does, but that spoiler intrigued me. In retrospect, 999 was so convoluted but I can appreciate what it was trying to do. I had a blast playing it though.
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>>80720054
Бapaшкинc - Дypaшкинc is her dubbed nickname.
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>>80720048
I love what I got but to really do the original script idea right, the feeling of it, how the story works, you need to have the depressing ending of Nick either fleeing Zootopia and going on the run, or with the movie ending with him deciding to go back, his fate, and Zootopia's, uncertain. And those endings are simply not what Disney does.
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>>80719946
>Welder/construction worker

Yeah, I guess.
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>>80720034
My bad, I'm a different anon that chimed in and I thought it's the English.
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>>80720048
I personally prefer the original version, or at least what it could potentially be.

But I do wholeheartedly think they made the correct decision in changing it. As a family movie, it really was just too dark, and as an adult movie it would need some tweaking.

I was actually telling my parents about the original draft after we saw it yesterday, and they were pretty surprised that Disney would even consider the shock collars. THey thought that seemed very dark for a kid's movie
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>>80716686

Ha. Polar Bear Moe Greene.
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>>80720144
was wall-e darker?
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>>80720048
>no option that simply says I like both.
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>>80713873
I had strange dreams, I'll say that much.
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>>80720183
oh youre right, should have added that
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>>80719862
>>80719956
do people really cry like that? sounded really forced to me

>>80720054
this is not just a good dub this is the best russian dub I've heard period.
>objectively
oh you
but really I can't tell much about the actual translation, what would you change?
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>>80720132
Thats a big part of it and why they changed it. I don't think the old version of Zootopia could really get the happy ending that Disney films get.
The best realistic we could hope for is that Sun City (the original name) BEGINS to change for the better, but thats still a pretty hard pill to swallow. And in the mean time Nick is still stuck where he was before as a second class citizen.

Or he leaves, which is just bittersweet as hell. And then either Judy leaves with him, abandoning her career she had waited for her whole life or she stays and watches her new bestfriend or more walk out of her life.

Or they just jam a happy ending in that would be jarring as hell and worse overall.
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>>80719256
Because transgender
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>>80719292
Yeah. It was a secret, illegal club for predators only where they could practice their instinscts in private. Like hunting.
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>>80720223
Are we talking about the english version? It sounded pretty natural to me, and one anon said that the actress actually did start crying while recording the scene.
>>80720255
>>80719292
More of a themepark actually.
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>>80719727
I liked the german VO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWk5tzd8cdg
Are there any other clips about the VO production?
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>>80709157
We see his derelict theme park from the original script in the background of the bridge scene so my guess is he lives there now.

I like to think the theme park is still apart of his past, where he lived in a shitty apartment in the rainforest and burrowed money from a loanshark to get his dream started, but for some reason or another, he couldn't keep up with the payments and had to shut the place down. A big junk of his hustles went to paying off his debt.
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>>80720285

a 'Bite Club' if you will.
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>>80720250
wether = castrated sheep

bellwether = wether with a bell on that leads flock

bellwether led the sheep conspiracy

it checks out
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>>80720247
>Sun City
Oh, just playing up the apartheid references are we now?
https://youtu.be/aopKk56jM-I
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>>80719828
I mean from the time before he was a cop.
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>>80720346
Huh, I had no idea about this. Thats rather on the nose.
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>>80720344
except bellwether, as a term on it's own is also a thing, taken from the sheep terminology.

one can be a bellwether without being a sheep.
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>>80720223
It's when you try to be calm and say things, but you're just full of emotions, so when you start saying things the emotions just flood out and you sound like you're trying not to cry but you can't stop crying, and the words are just difficult.

I'm like that when I'm angry/hurt, so I try to just isolate myself until the feeling subsides so I don't have to confront/talk, else I will look pathetic and just cry instead of saying things
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>>80720319
German Nick managed to be more smug that I thought. He really grew on me. German Judy was just qt from start to end.
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>>80720320
>I like to think the theme park is still apart of his past, where he lived in a shitty apartment in the rainforest and burrowed money from a loanshark to get his dream started, but for some reason or another, he couldn't keep up with the payments and had to shut the place down. A big junk of his hustles went to paying off his debt.

makes me feel a little better. I also like to think that shock collars existed not so long ago and that judy came to zootopia just after
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>>80720285
am I just too autistic to see it? scenes both in russian and english dub are bad
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>>80719828
And from the time between part1 and 2.
Which are just made up to get him out of the picture.
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>>80720392
duccboi
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>>80720344
Can this meme die please?
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>>80720390
This, there are some things that can just trigger some people to cry.

For me it's thinking about when we had to put my first dog to sleep.

for Judy it seems it was the idea that Nick would never talk to her again.
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nick = fox who loves blueberries

gideon = fox who makes great blueberry pies, and had vague identity issues in his youth


are they intentionally setting up nick/gideon?

I hate nick/gideon.
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>>80720346
>>80720247
where did you guys read about the city being called sun city or sunlight city?
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>>80719199
It's kind of funny because everyone is talking about how great Zootopia's message of tolerance is, and then Angry Birds comes out and it's about removing kebab.
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>>80720039
That bit of information was unknown for me as i made this post, anon.
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>>80720395
I don't like that idea for gen pop. Prisoners on the other hand would be a great way to bring them back.
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>>80720390
I just have trouble getting words out when I'm like that. I usually have to do some breathing to calm myself to talk
>>80720398
I don't know anything about the Russian dub so I can't speak for that, but I thought the english version of the scene was well done
>>80720403
I could see the tax evasion coming up somehow and then being used to justify believing that he did other crimes that hes being framed for
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>>80720050
The Zero Escape series. Consists of 999 (DS, iOS) and Virtue's Last Reward (3DS, Vita).

Third game is also on the way, Zero Time Dilemma. Do check out the series if you can.
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>>80719905

>everyday working sleeping working sleeping working sleeping
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>>80720451
What you don't like feminine sheep penis?!
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>>80720465
based IMO
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>>80720464
http://www.slashfilm.com/zootopia-directors-interview/2/
>Rich: We like Nick, but we don’t like Sun City.

I named my fic Sunlight City because I didn't completely remember how they had said it
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>>80720463
No, they're intentionally setting up that foxes and canines in general love berries. If only I can easily get blueberries and strawberries where I live, I'd feed them to our dog everyday.
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>>80720465
Except the pigs are actually assholes
Neither the preds nor the prey were saints, nor were they evil
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>>80720524
WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS? sauce plz
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>>80720436
Oh thank god.
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>>80720436
If it weren't for the Clarence artstyle, I wouldn't mind this.

Then again, I'm sure you're just posting this to goad a reaction so into the "All humanizations are garbage" labeled trash it goes.
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>>80720346
Love the level of detail and thought they put into this movie.
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>>80720555
>scorpion

I don't get it.
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>>80720039
Not sure I like that.

Being mammal only is one of the features that makes Zootopia unique among talking animal movies
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>>80720565
Foxes are omnivores anyway.
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>>80720555
>blue eyes
can't not notice now
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>>80720048
I think I like the one we got a bit more in the end.

Zootopia is flawed, but repairable.

The old Zootopia... Yeah, I'm not rooting for Nick to fix things, and Judy being okay with institutionalized racism that involves shock collars makes her hard to root for either.

And the whole "it is a shame we don't have a scene where she removes his shock collar" comes off less as an act of trust and more like "We're supposed to suddenly think Judy is great because she decided to treat Nick as a person"
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why does flash have nonexistent lipsync?

like it would have been better if his mouth didn't move at all it was so bad
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>>80720541
I really hope it will be updated
I fucking love it
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>>80720508
Depends
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>>80720598
Almost certainly a reference to The Scorpion and the Frog
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>>80714750
wool exists nick says it was a wool rug when he starts talking about it, but they don't mention it again so they could focus on the skunk butt part
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>>80720524
>>80720567
I think that's with the video where Nick had his collar removed.

I think it's a Disney Channel Asia (SEAsia) promo. How did the movie do in other parts in SEAsia? It wasn't that big here in Fliplandia, sadly.
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>>80714750
it was made with skunk but hair, not skunk butt hide.
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>>80720567
Jesus christ, how many fucking drafts did they go through?
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>>80720620
Well I don't think we want the collar removal scene because of how Judy figures in. Its just Nick looks so fucking happy in that clip we've seen. We just wanna see the surrounding scene for that because thats a pretty emotional looking 3 seconds of footage
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>>80720604
All animals are omnivores
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>>80720620
I think the idea behind it was that Judy would spend the whole movie with Nick, realize that he's more than just a "predator", and that applies to them all, falls for him hard and in the end she betrays the police and sides with him, which culmilates in the shock collar removal scene.
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>>80720599
I don't like it either. I'd like to be able to relate to the characters more with turkey at thanksgiving, pet turtles, and pigeons flying around the city. Makes the town more boring and more racist at the same time.
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>>80720599
>>80720703

I think they didn't really completely confirm, only that they entertained such a thought, and most likely to shut those who keep asking. I think they really also want Zootopia and the movie in general to be unique that way.
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>>80720635
If you are talking about the fic, I'll probably update it later this week, since my bro isn't coming home for spring break, I'll have a lot more alone time to write with than I was expecitng
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>The old Zootopia... Yeah, I'm not rooting for Nick to fix things, and Judy being okay with institutionalized racism that involves shock collars makes her hard to root for either.

And the whole "it is a shame we don't have a scene where she removes his shock collar" comes off less as an act of trust and more like "We're supposed to suddenly think Judy is great because she decided to treat Nick as a person"

but this is where the characters evolution come in, Judy realizes that predators aren't dangerous, becomes friends with nick etc..

It would be amazing to see her philosophy change
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>>80720647
Yeah, but I get the feeling wool might be more taboo than illegal.
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>>80720691
the point is foxes can subsist primarily on plants or animals. deer couldn't survive on just squirrels, cats can't survive on just plants, etc
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>>80720647
Not to mention those cute sweaters Mrs. Otters on knits.
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>>80720394
Indeed.
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>>80720636
on what
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>>80720674
This is pretty common with just about anything. Movies, books, comics, vidya. Theres a 99% chance that whatever the final product is is not the same as how it started out.
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>>80720647
>>80714750
I remember reading somewhere that Bellwether's outfit is made of wool
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>>80720674
Big projects like this go through a lot of drafts and often last for years, even decades. Tangled had a notorious scrapping too, and the budget bloated because of it.
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>>80720724
I also hope that it stays mammals only. It would make their world more relatable as there would be no land fauna besides insects otherwise.
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>>80720743
that's his point, the collar-removal in and of itself doesn't do that. it's just "ok she's stopped being *that much* of a dick". it would take a long time and some brilliant writing to get the audience to actually like her except for the waifufags who'll defend anybody, looking at you , welsh bellwether apologists
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>>80720635
That is an attractive chinchilla.
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>>80720674
more than you can possibly imagine. It started 5 or 6 years ago
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>>80720743
Theres one issue right there in regards to it being a Disney movie.

Is Judy just misinformed at the start? That leaves her more sympathetic but makes her wanting to remove his collar less emotional and dramatic.

But if shes an outright bigot who is okay with the shock collar, then even though it adds more impact to her changing her mind, it makes it harder to sympathize with her as a character and that doesn't really fly too well in a kid's movie with a lead character. In a movie for older audiences, it would be just fine, but not for a Disney movie.
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>>80720247
They could go full Orwell and have a big sign saying "Welcome to Zootopia, where all animals are Equal" show up in the intro, with a shock-collar predator graffiti-ing "some more equal than others" under it.

Then, in the ending narration, have the bittersweet ending where things look like they might get better. Have Nick say something like "there are no happy endings in real life, but some endings are better than others." or something like that.

It would be thematic
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>>80720829
That could work in a way, but there would be no way in hell that would fly in a Disney movie.
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>>80720567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaqmn55w4IA
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>>80720829
and also soul crushing

even more than the version we got

>tfw no nick husbando
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>institutionalized racism
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>>80719519
I wonder if I will ever know what it feels like to walk into a big box store and see characters that I created sitting on a shelf?
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>>80720485
> hat hes being framed for
This would work perfectly.
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>>80715230
>Why would Judy, a police officer, remain friends with a violent criminal (Mr. Big). Isn't that like an example of corruption?

The system is pretty much screwed already; two mayors were arrested for corruption in a row. Anyway Mr. Big is a completely legitimate businessman!
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>>80720760
Lots of things
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>>80720878

you know these toys are mady by poor chinese children who get paid in bowls of rice?
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>>80720873
red nose gets me every fucking time
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>>80720319
>>80720394
I'm glad he kept Florian Halm as Nick. I always found his voice soothing and cute. I head a serious fear of Nick getting a B-tier entertainer, but glad they didn't.
The celebs they've got worked and didn't feel tacked on to me.

>>80720394
>German Judy was just qt from start to end.
Trööt trööt!
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>>80719536
That was just one shot so I am guessing they have a lot more early footage that they're still sitting on.

I really hope that they do some kind of documentary collecting all the lost materials together and have the crew talk about it. That would be fascinating.
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>>80720873
what? how is institutional racism a tumblr thing

what else would you call racism embedded in the laws and private policies of society (which totally happened, by the way, in case you /pol/acks were too busy drawing swastikas in your notebook during history class)
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>>80720856
Kids need to be told that everything isn't alright.

That's why I leave the 24 hour news channel on the TV in the dining area at the McDonald's I work at. If parents aren't comfortable with their kids seeing ISIS chop off heads maybe they should stop ISIS from fucking doing it instead of closing their eyes and pretending everything's fine everywhere.

This is the world we live in, and if you can't bear to watch it then closing your eyes is not the solution.

/rant.

And don't worry, I'm not aiming it at you. This subject just makes me generally and nonspecifically angry at the world in general.
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>>80720873
Forcing predators to live as second-class citizens with shock collars on their necks and a police department that uses overwhelming force on them with little provocation is pretty much the definition of institutionalized racism m8.
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>>80720044
https://e621.net/post/show/845245
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>>80720816
well then fuck Judy, only nick will be loved 8)
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>>80719129
>Outback Island
>Sequel in an Australian setting
>Rescuers Down Under took place in an Australian setting.
>Main Characters in that film hooked up
Ship Confirmed.
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>>80720909
Nevertheless, he's asking what it's like to see merchandise of characters you created/help create.
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>>80720990
Because predators are the main perpetrators of crime.

It's like saying having more police patrols in the black parts of town is institutionalized racism. It's simply a law designed to reflect a real, statistical problem.
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>>80718902
Probably as an extension to his normal phone so that he can text with his big predator thumbs
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>>80720935
>what else would you call racism embedded in the laws and private policies of society
Common sense.

If a state is for white people then laws should favour whites. That's what "this state is run by and for this nation" means. It means other people aren't welcome and, in fact, are actively discouraged.

That's not racism. Discrimination? Yes. Discrimination based on race? Absolutely. Ethnocentrism. Without a doubt.

But racism is "these people are inferior", and you don't have to believe that people are inferior to believe that peoples should be kept separate, even if the vast majority of dipshit skinheads happen to believe both.

>tfw i will never live in a homogenous anglo-saxon society where i'm free to enjoy the traditions and culture of western society without being bullied into faux-diversity enthusiasm

Why is it so wrong to believe that people belong with their own kind?
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>>80721017
I always think that's egoraptor from the thumbnail.
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>>80720901
for instance?
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>>80720635
Those neck muscles on that deer.
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>>80720961
Sure, but on some level movies are supposed to be escapism. Kids don't go to the movies to learn that the world sucks. They go to enjoy themselves.

And its not like movies need to teach them that the world sucks, they will learn in good time on their own, so no need to run their faces in it.

Besides, that kind of knowledge requires a certain maturity to handle, a maturity kids don't generally have. It won't make them more worldly, itll just make them fucking depressed
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>>80721034
*Overwhelming* force, dude. In the original draft of the movie, the chase through Little Rodentia was a lot more violent and had a lot more of it damaged because the police didn't give a shit about it, just catching Nick. Escaped prisoner or not, there's a point where you need to stand back to keep your other citiz-
>>80721074

Oh. Well, it was bound to happen eventually.
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>>80720862
thx
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>>80720995
You can go fuck yourself
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>>80720995
Well on a certain level, the "Judy being a bigot" thing made it to the final product. It also works better to have her as the main character since we can see her character evolution in full focus. With her as a secondary character, that focus would be more in the background making it harder to care that she is changing.

Thats part of why they switched who was the lead
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>>80721143
>le smug dismissal of worldviews i disagree with because my time is too le valuable to waste on le h8rs
Okay mate.
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>>80720127
Wait, Judy loves carrots, an orange food. Nick loves blueberries from the farm. They both love foods that are a main color of the other.
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>>80721143
Not that I don't believe you but where do we see that the police were trashing Little Rodentia? All the concept art shows is Nick running through it with Judy giving chase and holding a taser
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>>80721160
no, you!
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>>80721200
That seems too subtle to be intentional, but I hope it was
>>80721230
>>80721197
Guys can you take this to /pol/ or at least somewhere else? Lets not do this now
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>>80720555
Damn that's cute. My Nick X Judy folder keeps getting bigger.
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>>80721171

>we don't care if background characters change.

Try watching Babylon 5.
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>>80721200
>They both love foods that are a main color of the other.

The evidence just keeps piling up, doesn't it?
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>>80720913
Yes, the promi-VO were good. Just slightly confused why they changed Flashs VO.
And Florian Halm and Josefin Preuss worked perfect.
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>>80721214
Here, to start: >>80716672

I think other parts of the art book mention it, but the "Peace" statue being destroyed by the police because it was in their way doesn't bode well for the rest of the neighborhood
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>>80721252

seconding the gentleman's proposal.
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>>80721074
Racism is power politics mostly, so the majority, the powerful, pushing out those without as much power. You can be racist without expressing racial hatred the same way you can express racial hatred without being racist. It's semantics.
I guess I should thrown in a bonus "homophobia doesn't imply exclusively a fear of homosexuals but an aversion to homosexuals."

Speaking of homosexuals, Gideon and Clawhauser.
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>>80721171
Everyone was a little bit of a bigot in the final movie.

Don't forgot Nick was a bit of an asshole when he first showed degrading Judy and such
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>>80721265
Theres a difference between a tv show and a movie.

Namely how much time you can devote to characters.

I should say we don't GENERALLY care about background characters changing because not enough time has been given to fully flesh them out
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>>80721009
>Honeymoon in australia
So it might be a first herbivore x predator marriage?
Maybe some Herbi-extremist try to frame Nick for being an animal. Like "Predators and prey can live together, but they shouldnt bond behind work"
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>>80721283
Well thats a bit on the nose, but I can dig it
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I saw the movie again today and there's a pretty sizable plothole that I can't get my mind around... Bellweather devised the entire "make predators go crazy" scheme to cast them in a bad light. But the Mayor was never part of it. So how was it that, when Manchas was darted, they wolves were able to pick him up so quickly? I could buy that Bellweather might have had Judy and Nick tailed to setup whatever predator they might encounter to attack them, but the wolves show up moments after Judy chains Manchas to the lamp and they escape.
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Anyone find a good place to stream Zootopia yet?
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>>80721084
Use your imagination I am
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>>80721272
>Just slightly confused why they changed Flashs VO.
Well...I guess...because...it's...Rüdiger Hoff...mann's stick.
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>>80721387
make a request, anon
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>>80721379
I guess traffic cams maybe? It is a little odd when you think about it.
I don't think its that big of a plothole. Its really just "They arrived much sooner than could be expected." I think the biggest problem was showing them arrive right as Judy let go of that vine. If they had shown them arrive after Nick and Judy were already gone, then we can just assume who knows how much time passed between Nick and Judy falling off the bridge and getting back to it with the backup
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>>80721384
There's ONE shitty cam rip
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>>80721283
>>80716672
I really want the original Zootopia
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>>80720144
It would have been another one of those tasteless gritty dark crime drama movies if we went with the original.
I watched a lot of 90s-21st Cartoonnetwork in comparison with Minimax and Fox Kids/Jetix.

Let me tell you, there is nothing mature about a bunch of asshole characters with their selfish interests over others. I know they wanted Hiccup to be an angry opportunistic geek who always has a "somebody shit in my meal" kind of grumpy expression. I know Po from Kung Fu Panda was suppose to get more arrogant and assholish with his power.
Plus all those crude non-cute character designs.

You know what you'd get? Those other CGI movies similar, but not really Dreamworks or Pixar.
Ughh what are their names... the one with the raccoon who tricks the animals into stealing food for him so he may repay the bear he originally stole them from.
Ah got it. Over the Hedge and The Nut Job.
You'd have characters which get genuinely surprised when someone tries to act morally correct because of the amount of unlikable cynical characters.
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>>80720684
That's how I feel too. It's a great moment and it's a shame that they had to scrap it, but at the same time I'm glad that the movie went in a more positive direction. Judy would have been a lot less likable as a character if she was just another racist who eventually starts seeing the light, and the city itself ended up feeling like garbage that isn't worth saving. It was probably around the time that they decided to change the ending to Nick and Judy escaping from the city that they realized what a bleak film it was and that they wanted to re-work it into something more optimistic.

When I hear of that ending though, where Nick and Judy drive off into the sunset and leaving the rotting city behind them, it immediately calls to mind a certain Bruce Springsteen song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3t9SfrfDZM

That would have been a helluva end credits sequence.
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>>80721330
Right, and that made for a better plot. You could see Zootopia as a more neutral place, doing better than most places where the people aren't given the opportunity everyday to express their xenophobia. Since its integrated and diverse, people have a harder time getting along.
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>>80721439
;_; thanks for the heads up anon
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>>80721116
>Kids don't go to the movies to learn that the world sucks
And lo, we end up with a generation of adults who don't realise that it does.

I don't mean that we should smash kids faces in gore and violence, but I equally don't think we should shy away from themes that are too challenging. Pick and choose what to include, yes, but don't sugarcoat any of it. Zootopia is a cartoon waltz through "discrimination" as seen from 10,000 feet in the air. It has no impact, no depth, and ends with a lazy feelgood message that has no staying power. The extent of its theme, such as it was, can be summed up as "Don't be mean to people because they are different." You might kick and scream that it's a true and good message, and I agree, but it's not really applicable to the real world. Life isn't that simple, and even if it was it isn't that easy to just not be mean, even when you know there is no rational reason to be mean. Think of all the times you've lashed out at other people because of your own problems and been too proud to apologise for it.

I want movies that are applicable. Zootopia tells us if you try hard you can overcome prejudice, but sometimes you can't. In fact, most of the time you can't. That's why it's prejudice - because it's not based on your individual performance. So what lesson does Zootopia have for those of us who live in the real world, some of whom are trapped on the bottom rung of society? None. Or, at worst, it tells them that they didn't try hard enough. And what message does it have for the people who say "differences exist and for 99% of bunnies it's accurate to say they'd be shit cops and it's a waste of time to make exceptions for the 1% who might be barely average"? Again, nothing.
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>They both love foods that are a main color of the other.

Anon, you don't know how much you surprised me with this.
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>>80720344
Bellwether also mean 'harbinger'...
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>>80721455
you seem to not understand concept art. If zootopia changed a third time, you would have said the same thing about our current final version. concept art is for concept, not for cute things.
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>>80721216
This looks really cool
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>>80721308
>Racism is power politics mostly
Racism is the belief that a race of humans is inherently inferior to a different race of humans.

That's all it is, and all it will ever be.
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>>80721200
>judy is blue

wait really? I thought she was teal or grayish something

tfw colorblind
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>>80721414
Nick holding hands with an Arctic vixen, with a flustered looking Judy in the background
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POETRY

>>80721550
Her police uniform is blue
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>>80721379
I think Bellewether was tippin them off. She said she framed Lionheart (poor choice of words, she set him up) so I'm guessing the secret police were always ahead of the police. She could do it that way because she genuinely cares about the prey population and doesn't want them to suffer because of her.
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>>80721414
Kay

Futa Bellwether masturbating[/spoiler[
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>>80721460
did they really thought of that ending?
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>>80721522
Alright, you do you.

>>80721529
Why is he so tiny?
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Can someone post the e621 mod "You gotta do what you gotta do" picture again? My comp died and took it with it.
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>>80721550
Her fur is grey but her uniform is blue. So its not quite a 1 for 1 comparison since he is orange.

>mfw I accidentally outted one of my choir mates as colorblind to a few people
I didn't know myself and he didn't seem upset but it was wierd
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>>80721647
Probably not. In fact it was realizing that that would be the happiest ending they could probably do that made them rewrite the whole thing.
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>>80721635
>they didn't go feral
Would have been a good scene tbqh
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>>80721648
Maybe They are the Wylde-Hopps brothers. And try to rescue their Parents Judy and Nick.
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>>80719585
I keep imagining it would be very noir?

>"Zootopia: 1937 coming this summer"
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>did they really thought of that ending?
Yeah, that's the ending they were going with before they switched to the current version of Zootopia. The ending was always a bit of a mess because it never felt like anything really made up for how badly Nick had been treated, and it never felt like Zootopia actually deserved having him save it. Finally they just said "fuck it, we'll have him run off with Judy because that's the most optimistic thing that could happen for them." It would have been a very noir way to end it, but ultimately they decided the movie was just too depressing and that's when they had the idea to switch the movie to Judy's perspective. She's someone who loves the city and believes in it, and that's when all the other pieces started falling into place, figuratively speaking.
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>>80721723
>Gazelle torn and eaten by her tiger dancers.
Thats just horryfying.
Quick something cute to ease my mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyUSu4SFiKg&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop
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>>80720992
>it's called a pawsie
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>>80721567
>>80721659
ah ty m8s
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>>80721756
>zootopia: 1937
No, even better:

1937: Sun City

Use the old title, have it be about prejudice, and at the end they rename the city Zootopia and dedicate it to harmonious coexistence and jolly co-operation.

Just dubtitle it "Prequel to smash Box Office hit Zootopia" for marketing.
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>>80721727
But foxes can't reproduce with rabbits and that's a lame plot.
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>>80721727
Wow that's some next-generation muppetry right there...
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>>80721789
Knowing of all these scrapped ideas now makes it a lot more understandable as to why I feel the final ending seemed so rushed
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>>80721792
>Thats just horryfying.
Horrifyingly erotic.

Imagine: you're a testosterone-pumped attractive young adult male whose busy schedule of rehearsals leading up to the big show has cramped your groupie-sexing style, and suddenly you lose all you inhibitions while surrounded by a pack of your comrades with nothing in sight but a trapped sex icon.

What could go right?
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>>80721617
i shall attempt...after i finish doing readings for uni
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>>80721850
Hell, they had to bring in a third director to make sure the project didn't collapse in the rewrite stage
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>>80721789
couldn't they just found a conspiracy about the government wanting all predators to be seen as dangerous and then nick and Judy exposing it like in the final version?
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>>80721529

let's see a Nick and Judy version of this, drawfags.
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>>80721880
Did they? Also was it always done with two directors? Who was first?
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>>80719253

no
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>>80721617
>Futa Bellwether masturbating

using the pomp on her head.
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>>80721789
Wait, did they officially say that? What I seem to remember was they took what they had to some Pixar guys to get input.

The guys at Pixar said the whole thing was so depressing they just wanted Nick to escape rather than try to fix anything.
So at that point they decided the rewrite was in order.

Thats what I'm remembering at least
>>80721890
It all being a conspiracy doesn't erase the fact that all those predators had been second class citizens for who knows how many years, or the fact that other animals were biased against them (like Judy at first)
It doens't make the damage go away and thats the problem. With the final version, the damage hasn't really been done yet, they aren't that far gone yet, so we can still get a happy ending by uncovering the conspiracy
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>>80720992
>Already over 700 images of Judy
Wew, lad
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>>80721880
All things considered, they did a pretty good job salvaging it. The only thing the final ending needed to be perfect was to have just 15 more minutes or so to make each of the current scenes a bit longer, flashed out, and with better pacing.

I feel the same way about the intro too but I didn't mind it and was, in fact, refreshed that they didn't dwell on Judy s past and police training
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>>80721908
The credits say
>Directed by Byron Howard and Rich Moore
and
>Co-directed by Jared Bush

So it seems the first two were on the project from the start while Bush was brought in to keep it together
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>>80721890
It's hard to try and write a believably good outcome for that once the setting has reached Orwellian extremes.

>"Our treatment of predator species as second class citizens to the point of making them wear collars and file their teeth with toothpaste for all these years that we comfortably accepted was all just a big evil conspiracy by the sheep!"

>"Oh.... well..... Fuck."

The original packs a punch, sure, but it's not what was being aimed for at all. And in the end, you'd just end up caring about Nick being okay rather than if the shit city owns up to extreme house arrest.
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>>80721789
Movie should have ended up with them both running off. Like Blade Runner. Maybe have a little origami fox at Judy's apartment from Bogo.
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>>80718233
Nick's gas mask is too short.
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>>80721828
Maybe they can, its still a movie.

At least Nick dont need a condom than.
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>>80721477
Its not like this is some sort of new thing in movies.

Hell, movies like Zootopia are much darker than many movies during the 50s and 60s when Hayes Code was in effect. Movies for kids and families during those times were inane and shallow as hell. Same with TV and comics. Compared to then, we are doing pretty well.
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>>80721330
That's because he saw the fox-repellant right away. He knew she was already prejudiced against foxes.
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>>80720995
Guess we know where the idea of Nick wanting to be a scout comes from.
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>>80721789
>Yeah, that's the ending they were going with before they switched to the current version of Zootopia.

No it wasn't. It wasn't at all.
the writers felt that it would make more sense for Nick to leave the city, since no one felt that anyone would want the city saved since it was such a terrible place.

The idea was always for Nick to save the city, but the story that they had made didn't match that ending.
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>tfw you went into this movie just to unwind because you had a meh day and came out with a fangirl-tier OTP

help /co/
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>>80721727
That thing isn't future merchandise, is it?!
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>>80722143
Just embrace it
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>>80722143
Obey
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>>80722179

almost looks like a muppet.
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>>80721945
Or that they stopped the plan to demonize predators
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>>80722209
huh?
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>>80722143
ONE OF US
OF
US
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>>80722207
Disney bought muppet.
It all comes full circle.
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>>80722143
Nearly everyone has. And the only people who don't ship them are just people who want them to be friends basically

Just let it happen
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I've seen this movie 3 times and got the art book. Not sure if ok...
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>>80722143
no worries m8 we're all faggots here
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>>80722091
I don't think he saw that their first meeting. But even if he did, she willingly defended him, payed for what she thought was was his kid with her own money, and gave them both words of encouragement.

That should tell you more than enough about her character.
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>>80722143
>Go to see the film with family
>Expecting utter drivel
>Come out of the theater completely engrossed in shipping and worried about being attracted to the rabbit
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>>80722280
I'm in the same boat, though I had outside reasons the second and third time for going.

Though I might go again anyway
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>>80721850
I am pretty sure they wanted to have a big chase scene in the natural history museum, but unfortunately there just wasn't time for it. The best action scenes in the movie were the chase scene with Duke Weaselton and the chase scene with Mr. Manchas. The train chase was also a solid scene, although climax didn't really have anything to compare with the earlier scenes.

That is a major problem with action-heavy animated films. The amount of time and effort it takes to make a major sequence like that means that when the crew is locked into it, it's not like they can move it to the third act at the last minute. If the animators got excited about the Act 1 climax but not the Act 3 climax, then it's really hard to compensate for.
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>>80720992
Nice.
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>>80722311
>worried about being attracted to the rabbit

it's already in motion
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>>80722236
I mean, that predators were seen as dangerous citizine. Because they are still instinct animals.
Now they are all like "maybe they are not mean or killing machines afterall"
Now it is stopped. The 2nd movie could be the tide to turn it "All are equall" <- or -> "predators are dangerous"
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>>80722373
I kinda want Nick like the faggot I am
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>>80722311
That's OK, I think. Personality-wise, Judy is perfect.
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>>80721984
Too bad movie executives don't follow the same ideology as video game executives. Meaning to release "fixes" a few months later to fix the rushed pacing.
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>>80722414
I suppose yeah.

Btw is english not your first language? Just curious
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>>80722280
youre still a noob, some people watched it 6 times in three days
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>>80722414
>Annie Lemurvitz
lel
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>>80722417
more bun for me
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>>80722341
I was okay with the final encounter not being an action sequence. Them just out running Bellwether and turning the proof into the cops wouldn't be enough for her to express herself as a villain.
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>>80722143

I just wanted to fap to the bunny, now I just want to see the bunny be happy and marry the fox
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>>80720048
I prefer the new story.

You know what other movie would have originally kicked ass if they didn't dumb it down?
Rise of the Guardians.
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>>80722459
>Wild Boar
>Not a predator
They're one of the most territorial and aggressive species of omnivores, and they eat rodents.
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>>80722498
I'd like the climax of the next movie to be more than just them running from the villains. Because thats kinda all it was, they weren't able to be more proactive in stopping them.

I guess that creates more of a "brains over brawn" aspect to it, but still
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Are there good quality scans of the artbook yet?
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>>80721597
What does this say? It's cool they made something for their South Korean fans.
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>>80722458
Its not. Hope im still understandable. Its late here, it isnt helpfull neither.
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>>80722553
Just wait for the ebook to come out in a couple days.
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>>80709157
He spends most of that on bunny shaped sex toys form Bad Dragon.
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>>80722300
He literally said he saw it the first time they met when he was confronting her about her racist remarks at the press conference.
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>>80722042
I was just thinking the other day that the original Zootopia was practically Blade Runner with anthro characters in a 1950s setting instead of cyber punk.

Dammit I wish Disney would put a team together and make a graphic novel out of the abandoned version called "Zootopia: Noir." Make the illustrations look like the concept art but with speech bubbles. I would buy it on day 1.
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>>80721789
What's the source for this? Because this is the quote that I read:

>I ask Howard if there a moment in the film’s development where it all came together. “Yes, when we flipped the film’s protagonist a year and a half ago,” he replies. “We took what we had shot so far to Pixar to let a fresh audience take a look at it. We didn’t set them up at all, just asked them to watch and be blunt. [WALL-E director Andrew] Stanton said, ‘You’re introducing the film thru Nick’s eyes. He’s a cynic who doesn’t like the city, therefore I can’t root for the city; I want Nick to escape from the city rather than see it healed.’”

and

>Stanton suggested a radical change. “Let’s take a chance just for a moment to see what happens if we flip the main characters and put the more idealistic Judy in the driver’s seat so the audience learns about Zootopia through her more optimistic eyes, then bring in Nick’s cynicism and challenge to her philosophy later.”

>“That really did the trick,” notes Howard. “It was kind of a chiropractic adjustment: the pieces are there; you just have to kind of go snap! then everything starts to flow. Okay, we figured out the problem -- now we have to tell the crew things they’ve been working on for years are no longer in the movie. It was a big task for them to try something new; their eyes started to twitch…”
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>>80722373
>>80722491
Those eyes are killing my heart.
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>>80722540
It was a nice change of pace from all the chases that happened.
We know Judy can fight, so let's see her fight.
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>>80722594
I got the gist of it I think, so its all cool
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>>80719709
I guess you were right
>>80722594
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>>80722143
There is no help, I'm afraid. Your only hope is to alleviate your OTPining by collecting lots and lots of Nick / Judy shipping art.
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>>80717988
He grew up.
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>>80722654
To add, I think the anon was misunderstanding things.

We don't know how the original plot would end. Pixar's input was just used, and frankly they have a point.

Let's not get carried away here.
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>>80722617
Fair enough.

Still doesn't justify him being a dick or thinking she's prejudiced against foxes
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Did anyone else catch the scene in the lab when Walter and Jesse are mentioned?
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>>80717423
I'll say it with you!

ONE Batmanvsuperman
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>>80722280
What would Dale do in Zootopia?
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>>80722732
Her carrying around Fox spray, and ONLY fox spray implies she is prejudiced against foxes on some level at least. If it was general mace or a taser, that would be entirely different since she is a cop, but its literally just fox repellent.
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>>80722754
You mean Woolter and Jesse?
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>>80722498
I think they could have had both. There was plenty of room for a chase scene between Bellwether's betrayal and Judy cutting her leg.
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>>80722590
Celebrating two million viewers.
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>>80722732
So if I carried around a can of pepper-spray labeled Nig-Nog Repellant 3000, you're saying that wouldn't be indicative of me being prejudice against blacks?
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>>80722457
Because that's stupid. Look at George Lucas and the edits he did on Star Wars years after the movies were released.

Personally, I didn't think the ending was rushed.
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>>80722732
>>80722785
Not to mention the whole "You're an articulate fella" line.
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>>80722754
Yep, the whole cinema was laughing.
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>>80722771
Get arrested for attempting to gas Little Rodentia
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>>80722540
Considering they intended to have the ending in a big stadium its a small ending.
I just guess not enough time and maybe they want to step up the tense with a sequel? Safe them the big bomb.
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>>80722771
Be the cut honey badger
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>>80722754
Did you catch Doug's name and number stickied to Bellwether's office phone?
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>>80722666
Thats cool.
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>>80722535
I wish I could animate, but this would be really cool if the water had a shimmering animation. Like one of those cinemagraphs that're popular over on /wsg/...
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>>80722535
what year was this made? is this from the original concept?
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>>80722754
Yes, like >>80722823 wrote. Everyone who knew Breraking Bad got this.

>>80722791
lol
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>>80722813
"No man, you're being racist against me for wanting to carry this around. It's my right to openly carry nigger repellent. Heh, and you think I'M the intolerant one?"

Seriously though, the fox taser was the best racist joke.
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>>80719513
>FRESHFISH
Still headcanon that fish is a fair game.
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>>80722971
I was just wondering if maybe I'd heard it wrong, nobody laughed at my theater.
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>>80723043
There's the Fishmarket store, or something of the like and Blubber Chef in Tundra town
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>>80722771
Be the first one to guess Bellwether's conspiracy, along with many other conspiracies.
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>when the fennec fox gets into his van
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>>80722822
See >>80718623
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>>80723089
>Dale meets Honey and they become conspiracy-buddies
>Dale makes workshop firearms, claiming it's "His right as an American"
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>>80722928
Must be around 2013/2014. Byron wrote early beatboad. The ones from 2013 and earlier are like pic.
So i guess with getting up with animation, the beatboards get more cinematic.
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>>80723084
Yyyesss! Fish is gr8, and good 4 u.
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>>80723081
I thought its Walter and you made a nice name-joke
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>>80721904
this
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>>80723111
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>>80722820
George Lucas never wrote and designed his own ideas. I'm sure a responsible person could manage to edit a film in order to improve it. Just like the Phantom Menace.
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It seems, the first draft had Judy in the ZPD call center.
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>>80722498
>I was okay with the final encounter not being an action sequence
Same. We had lots of fast-paced chases throughout the movie. It was nice that the final act was more on the cunning side with Nick's help.
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>>80723162
humanjudycosplayitem.jpg
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>>80723316
I wonder how much they got paid.
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>>80723299
my heart
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I like the Movie Spoofs they did and made in the movie.
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>>80722785
And? Again, she stood up for him and gave him the benefit of the doubt. It's wasn't until he was he being shady that she suspected something. And guess what, he was, committing federal crimes and the like. She would've been in her right as a cop to take him in for questions. Literally the only justification Nick has is that spray, and since she didn't even threaten to use it is a flimsy one at that.

To say nothing on how confusing the concept of 'fox spray' even is.

Everyone was a little bit prejudiced in the movie, justifiable maybe but still prejudiced
>>80722813
False equivalency and where would you buy that?
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>>80722654
>now we have to tell the crew things they’ve been working on for years are no longer in the movie
God I hope we get a compilation of the unused footage.
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>>80723268
But he approved of them. Whether the edits were his whole idea or not, he still edited the previous movies.

The Zootopia we got was fine. Really, really good despite the rewrites. It's one of those projects that rewrites didn't butcher.
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>>80723347
i bet, not enough.
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>>80722703

i didn't realize Zootopia used ants for photographic purposes.
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>>80723268
>George Lucas never wrote and designed his own ideas
Hello, police? We have a prequel hater in the thread, and he is attempting to derail a non-SW thread with his lies. Please send somebody!
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>>80723393
Maybe it will be re-used?
Maybe in books?
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>>80723382
It looks like Nick's story was somehow going to be more heartbreaking.
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>>80723382
I wonder if there was going to be some sort of big event that explained how the collars started in the old draft since it seems that everything went wrong within Nick's life time.
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>>80723275
Because bunnies worked in administration in an early draft

http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html
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>>80723470
Well we already have the shot of Nick presumably as an adult standing outside his father's vandalized store
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>>80723299
Same thing happened to me once, it was just as embarrassing & adorable.
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>>80723423
Does a spy do the trick too?
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Where there any cats in the movie?
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>>80723549
lions and tigers and panthers and cougars.
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>>80723467
Anyone got the handbook?
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>>80723549
No domesticated animals are in Zootopia
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>wear glasses
>want to cosplay as nick
>eyes are probably too shitty to get contacts

:(
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>>80723470
Yes, but like >>80722654 it would be too cynic. Maybe too "disillusion cop" we see as the new meme in movie and films.
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>>80723654
Get presciption sunglasses
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>>80723654
what's your plan? Pls no fursuit, and seal dat bodypaint
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>>80723549
There's a cat on the cover of the Meowana DVD.
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I want to rub nicks belly
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>>80723654
Nick wears shades.

Don't let your dreams be dreams.
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>>80723480
We only can speculate. We dont have time machine.
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>>80723549
Only one could be the Meowana cover one, but could be a feral cat.



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